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Welcome to the Coin Club. We are an assortment of newbies, amateurs and experts with questions and answers for newbies, amateurs and experts in coin collecting, also known as numismatics. Whether you are just getting started, have been collecting for years or have simply found some old coins about the place that you’d like to sell, this is the place to ask your questions.

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translateltd - 2014-03-13 09:54:00
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I find it interesting that the constitutional/structural changes to the UK tended to happen in the first decade of each century:
1603: personal but not political union of England and Scotland
1707: Act of Union joining the two (and terminating an independent Scottish coinage :-( )
1801: Formation of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Ireland
(and as far as the coins are concerned: elevation of all the colonies to the status of "Britains" in 1902 with the new legend BRITT OMN - making Big Eddie King of All the Britains).
Although it's getting a little late now in this century, will Scotland break away soon to continue the pattern?

translateltd - 2014-03-13 10:00:00
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Mr Gammoner I am after a few pre-46 hi-silver NZ coins - florins, 2/6d's & shillings. You mentioned in a much earlier post that you have a horde of these. I am not looking for fine numismatic samples, just goodies for a gastronomic ancestral rite. Any chance of listing one so I can make contact ? Cheers Peter

funho1 - 2014-03-13 17:22:00
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chrisr5 wrote:

LOL, the answer was probably more thn you were looking for.

Not at all. That was an appealingly succinct and concise summation of centuries of history to answer my question. US education is lacking on British history, I suspect mostly out of lingering spite for that "incident" circa 1812-14.

echoriath - 2014-03-14 10:17:00
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And thanks, Martin, for your clarifications as well. I only elver thought of "great" in the sense of the totality of it, rather than as a qualifier, but the way in which the changes key into numismatics is especially interesting. I'll have to do a little more research on all those abbreviations.

Yes, it will be interesting to watch what happens with Scotland.

echoriath - 2014-03-14 10:20:00
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echoriath wrote:

Nah, once I had a closer look at the edge, I saw that it IS delamination. The rectangle might pull loose with enough effort. The damage does extend down the centre as I described. Perhaps the flaw is below the surface further along? I'll post pix when I get a chance.

Here are some better photos:

http://images.trademe.co.nz/photoserver/full/308568015.jpg
http://images.trademe.co.nz/photoserver/full/308568122.jpg

There's also a pit above the sovereign's head on the obverse what lines up with the mucky bit on the reverse. So probably fair to say that the flaw extends right through the coin.

echoriath - 2014-03-14 23:53:00
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Hark, is that 3500 I see yonder upon the horizon?

echoriath - 2014-03-16 10:06:00
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707139293 - I suspect a decimal point has moved a couple (or three) places. Looking at the wording, I wonder if the seller thinks it's one of the 10 proofs.

translateltd - 2014-03-17 16:54:00
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lol...they never made a 1967 proof sets only 1967 polished ones
were did he get the numbers from ???

chefman1 - 2014-03-17 17:47:00
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chefman1 wrote:

lol...they never made a 1967 proof sets only 1967 polished ones
were did he get the numbers from ???

There were 10 full-proof VIP sets, so that figure is right. Mind you, when you take the semi-proof coins out of the packs they're hard to tell from the full proofs, same with the 1965 ones.

translateltd - 2014-03-17 19:00:00
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Tim many thanxs for the photo..nice metal...cheers peter

chefman1 - 2014-03-18 11:39:00
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Hi guys I have some coins that I would like some help identifying and making sure they are what I think they are.

http://images.trademe.co.nz/photoserver/full/309092884.jpg
http://images.trademe.co.nz/photoserver/full/309092782.jpg

Also this one with a clipped edge
http://images.trademe.co.nz/photoserver/full/309092731.jpg
http://images.trademe.co.nz/photoserver/full/309092679.jpg

And this one
http://images.trademe.co.nz/photoserver/full/309093474.jpg
http://images.trademe.co.nz/photoserver/full/309093511.jpg

Thanks guys

cashintheattic - 2014-03-18 19:34:00
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The Curacao one is quite interesting. It's in pretty good nick, and the according to this site:

http://www.ngccoin.com/poplookup/World-Coin-Price-Guide.aspx

could have a retail value in the hundreds. I'm not an expert on those by any measure, but if it's real, definitely set a reserve. Trade Me may not be the best place to sell it if you want a large chunk of its book value. How many acorns are there on the reverse?

BTW, once you find your way around the site above, it's a really handy one. It's worth remembering that technically the values there are for coins certified by that company, and they are retail values. Still, it gives some idea, and the mintage figures are useful.

Oh, and British coins are listed under Great Britain, NOT England, Britain or United Kingdom (except very recent coins).

Edited by echoriath at 9:23 pm, Tue 18 Mar

echoriath - 2014-03-18 21:22:00
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There are 4 acorns on the Curaçao one. Sweet thanks for that echoriath

cashintheattic - 2014-03-18 21:25:00
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That was what I counted. Hmmm, maybe it's not genuine, as they only allow from seven to twelve.

echoriath - 2014-03-18 21:36:00
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I do have a 1990 edition of the world coins catalogue. That helps but the other coins I have I cant quite figure out what they are.

cashintheattic - 2014-03-18 21:36:00
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the world edition from 1990 has the 4 acorn variety listed.

cashintheattic - 2014-03-18 21:37:00
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From what I can tell there were 120,655 minted and 114,000 melted down in 1827... Thats got to be good right lol

cashintheattic - 2014-03-18 21:48:00
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cashintheattic wrote:

From what I can tell there were 120,655 minted and 114,000 melted down in 1827... Thats got to be good right lol

You'd certainly be forgiven for thinking that there being less than 7,000 would be more promising, but there are US Quarter Eagles with mintages less than 2,000 whose values don't differ appreciably from those with mintages of 20,000 or more. I've never been able to understand that one, as surely there are at least a couple thousand people in the entire world trying to assemble a collection of US Quarter Eagles. Or maybe not.

I can find Bison Nickels worth more than a gold coin. Assuming I can find a buyer.....

echoriath - 2014-03-18 22:08:00
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2. England, 4 pence 1680. The 4 linked C's show the denomination (1, 2 and 3 pence also in this series).
3. Need a diameter for this one. Either a 6d, shilling or halfcrown. Known as "LIMA" 6ds (etc.) because they were struck in England from captured South American silver.

translateltd - 2014-03-18 22:13:00
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Thanks Translateltd. Do you know much about the Curacao coin. Is it one that I need to set a reserve etc. Thanks

cashintheattic - 2014-03-18 22:20:00
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Oh and its 2.5cm in diameter

cashintheattic - 2014-03-18 22:25:00
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cashintheattic wrote:

Thanks Translateltd. Do you know much about the Curacao coin. Is it one that I need to set a reserve etc. Thanks

My edition of KM (2009) doesn't make any distinction between acorn counts for the price - all sub-varieties are priced at US$65 in F and $100 in VF. I'd suggest checking some closed auctions around the world and see what they've fetched, and agree that an "international" outlet might bring in wider buyer interest, you never know.

translateltd - 2014-03-18 22:26:00
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cashintheattic wrote:

Oh and its 2.5cm in diameter

A shilling, then.

translateltd - 2014-03-18 22:28:00
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I notice a presumably later edition of KM is available for searching via Google books (amazing what you find!), and quotes 100 and 200 respectively for the Curacao coin in the grades above: http://tinyurl.com/kaez48z

translateltd - 2014-03-18 22:41:00
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from the pictures which I know is hard to tell. What condition would you put this at? I have found a few that have sold for big money via the other large auction site

cashintheattic - 2014-03-18 22:45:00
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2014 Sets up for pre order. Mintage on this years proof set only 1000!?...

numismatist - 2014-03-18 23:39:00
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Yeah, NGC does not differentiate in terms of value regardless of acorn numbers, and clearly the site has limitations in terms of scope. Maybe it's good back to the mid-19th century, but spotty before then?

echoriath - 2014-03-18 23:50:00
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numismatist wrote:

2014 Sets up for pre order. Mintage on this years proof set only 1000!?...

How much does this vary from previous years?

echoriath - 2014-03-18 23:50:00
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cashintheattic wrote:

from the pictures which I know is hard to tell. What condition would you put this at? I have found a few that have sold for big money via the other large auction site

I'd first have said Fine but the detail on the design is better than the rims, so maybe net GF? US grading might take it to VF - you can usually add half a grade for their system. And since KM is a US publication that's probably the way to look at it.

translateltd - 2014-03-19 06:19:00
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Model half farthing: 708014160
I first thought this might be by Lauer of Nuremberg, but most of his English models are only 12-13mm in diameter so this could be too "big" by comparison. Might still be one of his, though. Interesting item.

translateltd - 2014-03-19 07:19:00
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craftymum1 - 2014-03-19 19:47:00
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craftymum1 wrote:

I have a Gold SOVEREIGN 1902 can someone tell me what it may be worth and the best way to list it thanks
Craftymum1

If you're brave, start it at $1 with no reserve - it can get bidders interested early and bidding sometimes goes higher than if you started at $300 or whatever. Look for other sovereigns and make sure you list yours in the same section to be sure it gets seen. Make sure you have clear photos of both sides, and check the weight and diameter for good measure.

Edited by translateltd at 8:29 pm, Wed 19 Mar

translateltd - 2014-03-19 20:28:00
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Anyone seen the new pound coin design? -

http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2014/mar/19/a-sounder-pou
nd-new-1-coin-unveiled

chrisr5 - 2014-03-19 23:06:00
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echoriath wrote:

Not at all. That was an appealingly succinct and concise summation of centuries of history to answer my question. US education is lacking on British history, I suspect mostly out of lingering spite for that "incident" circa 1812-14.

I think the British out of embarrassment tend not to mention that either.

chrisr5 - 2014-03-19 23:08:00
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good day to you mr chrisr5,
i thought you might want to have a look at this auction [705781370] which i sold today ...cheers peter

chefman1 - 2014-03-19 23:35:00
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retainer - 2014-03-20 04:20:00
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chefman1 wrote:

good day to you mr chrisr5,
i thought you might want to have a look at this auction [705781370] which i sold today ...cheers peter

Well done!

translateltd - 2014-03-20 07:07:00
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chrisr5 wrote:

Anyone seen the new pound coin design? -

http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2014/mar/19/a-sounder-pou
nd-new-1-coin-unveiled

Hope it's a bit bigger than the old brass 3ds, though, or a few of those might start surfacing with a paint job ...

translateltd - 2014-03-20 07:08:00
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chefman1 wrote:

good day to you mr chrisr5,
i thought you might want to have a look at this auction [705781370] which i sold today ...cheers peter

Well that one dose have Catalogue value .
When 2 people want something the sky is the limit .

lester36 - 2014-03-20 16:08:00
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chefman1 wrote:

good day to you mr chrisr5,
i thought you might want to have a look at this auction [705781370] which i sold today ...cheers peter

And a good day to you Mr Chefman1.

Very nice coin and result. Values at £110 in fine and £3500 in unc in Tony Clayton's online dogalog.

chrisr5 - 2014-03-20 23:31:00
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oldecurb - 2014-03-21 23:01:00
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oldecurb - 2014-03-21 23:05:00
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How are we all doing today?

cashintheattic - 2014-03-23 10:52:00
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Is there anyone out there who can give me a heads up on what this is please?

http://images.trademe.co.nz/photoserver/full/309728535.jpg
http://images.trademe.co.nz/photoserver/full/309728598.jpg
http://images.trademe.co.nz/photoserver/full/309728744.jpg

To my untrained eye it appears to be a hammered coin...

cashintheattic - 2014-03-23 11:53:00
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There is also this. It appears to be a blank.....

http://images.trademe.co.nz/photoserver/full/309737078.jpg
http://images.trademe.co.nz/photoserver/full/309737052.jpg

Thanks guys

cashintheattic - 2014-03-23 12:35:00
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cashintheattic wrote:

Is there anyone out there who can give me a heads up on what this is please?

http://images.trademe.co.nz/photoserver/full/309728535.jpg
http://images.trademe.co.nz/photoserver/full/309728598.jpg
http://images.trademe.co.nz/photoserver/full/309728744.jpg

To my untrained eye it appears to be a hammered coin...

Indian subcontinent/Iran/Afghanistan.-
I can't be more specific than that. First photo needs to be rotated 90° clockwise. Recommend you check www(dot)worldofcoins(dot)eu and ask there. Many members are from that neck of the woods and can either read the inscriptions straight off or have a good knowledge of the series in question.

translateltd - 2014-03-23 19:05:00
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cashintheattic wrote:

There is also this. It appears to be a blank.....

http://images.trademe.co.nz/photoserver/full/309737078.jpg
http://images.trademe.co.nz/photoserver/full/309737052.jpg

Thanks guys

From the slightly uneven ring of dots I'd suggest an unfinished token or medal of some sort but hard to go beyond that. Size/weight?

translateltd - 2014-03-23 19:07:00
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oldecurb wrote:

Botswana pula is a zebra and I don't collect those but maybe I should as there can't be that many zebra coins.

NOT collecting zebras sounds like a bit of equine prejudice to me. A horse is a horse, of course, of course.

echoriath - 2014-03-24 00:27:00
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Over we go, friends.

echoriath - 2014-03-24 00:28:00
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