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Welcome to the Coin Club. We are an assortment of newbies, amateurs and experts with questions and answers for newbies, amateurs and experts in coin collecting, also known as numismatics. Whether you are just getting started, have been collecting for years or have simply found some old coins about the place that you’d like to sell, this is the place to ask your questions.

No one has all the answers, and you may get five differing answers to the
same question, yet each may be right in a manner of speaking, especially if opinions are involved. Opinions often vary. If you receive no answer to your query within 48 hours, please ask again.

translateltd - 2014-01-10 17:20:00
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translateltd wrote:

Mine :-)


Hi Martin, looks like a few NZ 2/- are being listed lol.
Cam must have picked up a swag of coins and starting with the florins

gammoner - 2014-01-10 17:36:00
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oldecurb - 2014-01-10 19:27:00
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Hi Alan...no 1942 ones though and a only few 1936 ones..numbers of coins...136....i see he as a few half/crowns on ebay

Edited by chefman1 at 7:31 pm, Fri 10 Jan

chefman1 - 2014-01-10 19:27:00
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6th edition prices for VF:
M&T Tn49: US$35
Barley US$275
D&M US$100
Gilmour US$200
Mears US$950

Looks like the M&T and Mears are the only ones to have had any significant adjustment - KM always seemed to be selective (my charitable expression) in dealing with incoming submissions! Will be interesting to see what the 7th edition says for these.

translateltd - 2014-01-10 20:19:00
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That KM# Tn49 token is quite stunning. I really like the images on both sides. An XF+ copy sold recently on eBay for about $123 http://tinyurl.com/kfdbl3y

I wonder if the demand for these tokens will increase in coming years...

Edited by lbillows at 9:33 pm, Fri 10 Jan

lbillows - 2014-01-10 21:33:00
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lbillows wrote:

That KM# Tn49 token is quite stunning. I really like the images on both sides. An XF+ copy sold recently on eBay for about $123 http://tinyurl.com/kfdbl3y

I wonder if the demand for these tokens will increase in coming years...

Nice example, but I wouldn't quite call it rare or unique, or even both combined :-) The M&T tokens usually turn up in quite high grade, more so than probably any other in the series, possibly because tokens had pretty much got to the end of their run by 1881, and Bill Lampard even suspected they may have been struck to order after the event (Chch Exhibition in 1882?) in view of the number of die combinations. Pure speculation, of course.

translateltd - 2014-01-10 22:48:00
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oldecurb - 2014-01-10 22:49:00
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Hi, a complete novice here, what would you do with a 1949 half crown these days ?

annies3 - 2014-01-11 09:35:00
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annies3 wrote:

Hi, a complete novice here, what would you do with a 1949 half crown these days ?


Value will depend on the coin condition.If a NZ 1949 1/2 crown,prices will range from about 20c upto around $400 for a coin in top grading

gammoner - 2014-01-11 11:53:00
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Hi All I have a Gothic florin that I can not work out a date.
http://images.trademe.co.nz/photoserver/full/299657173.jpg
http://images.trademe.co.nz/photoserver/full/299657245.jpg
http://images.trademe.co.nz/photoserver/full/299657127.jpg
Would any one be able to help me with the date.

lester36 - 2014-01-11 12:22:00
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lester36 wrote:

Hi All I have a Gothic florin that I can not work out a date.

Would any one be able to help me with the date.

mdccclv = 1855.

translateltd - 2014-01-11 12:34:00
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translateltd wrote:

mdccclv = 1855.


Got the MDCCCL to the 1850 date but was struggling with that last looking letter ( V ) lol

gammoner - 2014-01-11 12:57:00
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gammoner wrote:


Value will depend on the coin condition.If a NZ 1949 1/2 crown,prices will range from about 20c upto around $400 for a coin in top grading


Thats a wide range isnt it, how do you rate the condition of a coin? something I have never noticed before is the very small HP at the bottom right of the kings head, also KG under the stop after the 1949, I suppose it is in good order, yes a NZ half crown.

annies3 - 2014-01-11 14:15:00
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Probably best to get an experienced collector to look at it, or post some images here for a ballpark idea. For a guide as to what to look for, go to http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~translate/ and view/download the files clarkefiji_nzobvs.tif and clarkenzrevs.tif. You may need to save them first, as I'm not sure whether TIFF files will open directly in your browser.

translateltd - 2014-01-11 14:37:00
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translateltd wrote:

Probably best to get an experienced collector to look at it, or post some images here for a ballpark idea. For a guide as to what to look for, go to http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~translate/ and view/download the files clarkefiji_nzobvs.tif and clarkenzrevs.tif. You may need to save them first, as I'm not sure whether TIFF files will open directly in your browser.


Thanks I will try a couple of pics first, if I can remember how to put them on here.

annies3 - 2014-01-11 14:52:00
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annies3 wrote:


Thanks I will try a couple of pics first, if I can remember how to put them on here.


http://images.trademe.co.nz/photoserver/full/299677759.jpg
http://images.trademe.co.nz/photoserver/full/299677920.jpg

Edited by annies3 at 3:17 pm, Sat 11 Jan

annies3 - 2014-01-11 15:15:00
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annies3 wrote:


http://images.trademe.co.nz/photoserver/full/299677759.jpg
http://images.trademe.co.nz/photoserver/full/299677920.jpg[/
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Looks to be about fine condition so a fairly low value coin

gammoner - 2014-01-11 15:22:00
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gammoner wrote:


Looks to be about fine condition so a fairly low value coin

Seconded - low end of the scale, I'm afraid.

translateltd - 2014-01-11 15:31:00
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Hi is a NZ centennial half crown 1840-1940 worth much? Thanks.

1meme - 2014-01-11 22:01:00
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1meme wrote:

Hi is a NZ centennial half crown 1840-1940 worth much? Thanks.


Depending on condition of the coin, between $15 and $80 is the norm

gammoner - 2014-01-11 22:23:00
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oldecurb - 2014-01-12 19:47:00
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oldecurb wrote:

Anjy ideas what this is? In with a bunch of coins I got a while ago. Pity about the glue on the reverse.Weight 2.37g, 20mm dia

Reader's Digest promo token, copy of an Austrian gold ducat. Google TU DOMINE SPES MEA for more info.

translateltd - 2014-01-12 19:50:00
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As if to mock me, I came across this at the weekend:

http://images.trademe.co.nz/photoserver/full/300005874.jpg

Yes, it's a Bison. Do I have to tell you the year/mint? Sadly, it looks to me like mechanical doubling.

echoriath - 2014-01-13 21:51:00
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echoriath wrote:

As if to mock me, I came across this at the weekend:

http://images.trademe.co.nz/photoserver/full/300005874.jpg

Yes, it's a Bison. Do I have to tell you the year/mint? Sadly, it looks to me like mechanical doubling.

I assume that if it's the famous one, the word wouldn't be doubled if the date was - correct me if I'm wrong!

translateltd - 2014-01-13 23:08:00
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chrisr5 wrote:

Not a rare year or mint but not a bad indian head cent -

http://images.trademe.co.nz/photoserver/full/298811033.jpg
http://images.trademe.co.nz/photoserver/full/298810952.jpg[/
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Jeez, you gotta offer a "Luster Warning" before something like that!

echoriath - 2014-01-13 23:19:00
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translateltd wrote:

I assume that if it's the famous one, the word wouldn't be doubled if the date was - correct me if I'm wrong!

I dunno. There's a lot of doubling of much of the design in this:

pottynz wrote:

http://images.trademe.co.nz/photoserver/full/298351766.jpg[/
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But I note that "LIBERTY" seems deficient in the doubling department in the above photo. In saying that, the date on mine does appear.... affected, but not in the typical manner I have seen elsewhere:

http://images.trademe.co.nz/photoserver/full/300018594.jpg

Still, potty's has doubling of the feathers, the tie on the braid and even the profile of native. Mine has none of that, so I am going with mechanical doubling. That's not to say I'll be drilling any holes through it or anything. One of these days I'll sign up with PCGS, if only to satisfy my curiosity on a few points.....

echoriath - 2014-01-13 23:28:00
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echoriath wrote:

But I note that "LIBERTY" seems deficient in the doubling department in the above photo. In saying that, the date on mine does appear.... affected, but not in the typical manner I have seen elsewhere:

http://images.trademe.co.nz/photoserver/full/300018594.jpg

Still, potty's has doubling of the feathers, the tie on the braid and even the profile of native. Mine has none of that, so I am going with mechanical doubling. That's not to say I'll be drilling any holes through it or anything. One of these days I'll sign up with PCGS, if only to satisfy my curiosity on a few points.....

That's very instructive, as I've seen references to the two types of doubling on US forums with not much clarification. Potty's one and the couple I've seen have quite significant offsets on the date digits - about 45 degrees SE - which seems to be the main identifying feature.

Edited by translateltd at 7:22 am, Tue 14 Jan

translateltd - 2014-01-14 07:22:00
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Hmmm, this one doesn't have the same doubling on the nose or chin - the line on the chin in the image below is positioned differently and may not even be doubling:
http://images.trademe.co.nz/photoserver/full/300045697.jpg

translateltd - 2014-01-14 07:28:00
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This one's not a great photo but the lines in parts other than the date seem quite different again:
http://images.trademe.co.nz/photoserver/full/300045883.jpg

translateltd - 2014-01-14 07:32:00
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Holy bifurcated bison, Batman!! Are those lovelies both you own?

echoriath - 2014-01-14 12:08:00
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echoriath wrote:

Holy bifurcated bison, Batman!! Are those lovelies both you own?

No - I was lucky enough to sell them on commission ten or so years ago. I still had the pics on file. Both turned up in NZ, though - one of them was the one illustrated in the beginner's collecting guide I mentioned.

translateltd - 2014-01-14 12:21:00
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translateltd wrote:

No - I was lucky enough to sell them on commission ten or so years ago. I still had the pics on file. Both turned up in NZ, though - one of them was the one illustrated in the beginner's collecting guide I mentioned.


Is it just the 1916 date that has these flaws?

gammoner - 2014-01-14 14:28:00
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gammoner wrote:


Is it just the 1916 date that has these flaws?

I think it's the only double-date in the buff series. There are overdates and other die errors, though - the three-legged bison in 1937, for instance.

translateltd - 2014-01-14 14:30:00
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translateltd wrote:

I think it's the only double-date in the buff series. There are overdates and other die errors, though - the three-legged bison in 1937, for instance.


Shoot, better start sorting through some

gammoner - 2014-01-14 14:59:00
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Does anyone know why no 3d coins were minted in 1949?

roycroft - 2014-01-14 18:42:00
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roycroft wrote:

Does anyone know why no 3d coins were minted in 1949?


Only the 1/2d, florin, 1/2 crown and crown were minted.

gammoner - 2014-01-14 19:38:00
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gammoner wrote:


Only the 1/2d, florin, 1/2 crown and crown were minted.

Can't state a reason for sure, but it was probably simply that there were enough coins in circulation and they didn't need any more, a bit like most of our decimal coins since 2006 when they only come out every second or third year.

translateltd - 2014-01-14 21:55:00
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auction number [685944526] 1971 proof set
have a look at the one & two cent coins..is the last digit 1 in the date 1971 missing or am i wrong??
seller will not answer my question...lol

Edited by chefman1 at 3:24 pm, Thu 16 Jan

chefman1 - 2014-01-16 15:21:00
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chefman1 wrote:

auction number [685944526] 1971 proof set
have a look at the one & two cent coins..is the last digit 1 in the date 1971 missing or am i wrong??

He seems to suggest as much, but it's difficult to see with the angle of the photo.

translateltd - 2014-01-16 17:14:00
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translateltd wrote:

He seems to suggest as much, but it's difficult to see with the angle of the photo.


Yes, need close up clear pics from directly overhead.
Just playing around with a few of the same sets onhand and the 1's definetly alter depending on angle viewed through the outer cover.

gammoner - 2014-01-16 17:49:00
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Hi, I'm after old coins, not fussy about where they're from, for an art project. I don't want anything that could be considered 'collectable' but I am more than happy to pay postage and face value.
So I guess I'm asking two questions, does anyone have any coins that would fit the bill and/or know where might be the best place to ask?
Thanks

squeegee - 2014-01-16 20:19:00
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Hi, I'm after old coins, not fussy about where they're from, for an art project. I don't want anything that could be considered 'collectable' any suggestions on where might be the best place to ask?
Thanks

squeegee - 2014-01-16 20:25:00
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squeegee wrote:

Hi, I'm after old coins, not fussy about where they're from, for an art project. I don't want anything that could be considered 'collectable' but I am more than happy to pay postage and face value.
So I guess I'm asking two questions, does anyone have any coins that would fit the bill and/or know where might be the best place to ask?
Thanks


Any paticular Countries, copper or cupro and what is considered old for your requirements as coins go back a long way .

gammoner - 2014-01-16 20:53:00
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i got a answer to the 1971 proof set, but i don't understand it. is answer to me was >>
[Yeah what's up with that? dates have four digits, all coins have similar font error. Welsh mint, very rare. max minted was 5000 however very few still exist. This is the most expensive UNC coin set]
martin or alan.. do you understand in what he his saying??? thankyou peter

chefman1 - 2014-01-16 23:33:00
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squeegee wrote:

Hi, I'm after old coins, not fussy about where they're from, for an art project. I don't want anything that could be considered 'collectable' any suggestions on where might be the best place to ask?
Thanks

Try this search or something like it:

http://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/CategoryListings.aspx?sort_o
rder=price_asc&mcatpath=antiques-collectables%2Fcoins

As mentioned, a lot depends on what you call "old", and almost anything can qualify as "collectible" to someone. The main thing that diminishes the collectibilty of coins is condition. If you want 100-year-old coins in perfect condition, that's probably going to cost a bit or more. Unless particularly uncommon, most really worn coins are not worth so much. You'll also want to steer clear of actual silver coins.

Pre-decimal NZ pennies will be the most economical if they will suit your needs:

http://www.trademe.co.nz/antiques-collectables/coins/new-zea
land-predecimal

For the most part they are not worth a lot more than their weight in copper. If I get around to it, I have a load of rather worn copper British pence I hope to list soon, many Victorian. Pre-decimal NZ coins made after 1946 will also tend towards the inexpensive as long as they are well circulated, which typically makes them less collectible.

Edited by echoriath at 11:53 pm, Thu 16 Jan

echoriath - 2014-01-16 23:48:00
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chefman1 wrote:

i got a answer to the 1971 proof set, but i don't understand it. is answer to me was >>
[Yeah what's up with that? dates have four digits, all coins have similar font error. Welsh mint, very rare. max minted was 5000 however very few still exist. This is the most expensive UNC coin set]
martin or alan.. do you understand in what he his saying??? thankyou
peter


They were all minted from the one set of dies so I don't expect there to be any font error .Can't remember when even the superior set was dealer valued at over current $150 either.
Rare, no way either when I have over 70 sets lol.

gammoner - 2014-01-17 00:19:00
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chefman1 wrote:

i got a answer to the 1971 proof set, but i don't understand it. is answer to me was >>
[Yeah what's up with that? dates have four digits, all coins have similar font error. Welsh mint, very rare. max minted was 5000 however very few still exist. This is the most expensive UNC coin set]
martin or alan.. do you understand in what he his saying??? thankyou peter

Loses me, I'm afraid! I'm not aware of any varieties, and the claim that very few still exist is surprising. I'd expect almost all of them still to be around. Ideally we need a clearer picture to see exactly what is supposed to be up with the numbers.

translateltd - 2014-01-17 12:07:00
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On new pic it certainly looks like a different font for the 1's.

wasgonna - 2014-01-17 13:50:00
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I'm mystified now, and have asked for more info. The priced table showing the high-priced "circulation strike" coins has nothing to do with the proof sets.

translateltd - 2014-01-17 14:11:00
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