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lol...alan you will keep.

Edited by chefman1 at 3:30 pm, Sun 29 Dec

chefman1 - 2013-12-29 15:27:00
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Welcome to the Coin Club. We are an assortment of newbies, amateurs and experts with questions and answers for newbies, amateurs and experts in coin collecting, also known as numismatics. Whether you are just getting started, have been collecting for years or have simply found some old coins about the place that you’d like to sell, this is the place to ask your questions.

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gammoner - 2013-12-29 15:27:00
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Ok 3000 on its way

gammoner - 2013-12-29 15:28:00
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http://images.trademe.co.nz/photoserver/full/298117137.jpg
Auckland Harbour Bridge Extension, IHI, September 1969.
Actually not sure if this was found in 2013 or not, but it's one of the many "not in MacMasters" that are being documented for the eventual 2nd edition ...

translateltd - 2013-12-29 15:30:00
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gammoner wrote:

Ok 3000 on its way

Alan...go and fine some coins to bid on...lol

chefman1 - 2013-12-29 15:32:00
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translateltd wrote:

http://images.trademe.co.nz/photoserver/
full/298117137.jpg

Auckland Harbour Bridge Extension, IHI, September 1969.
Actually not sure if this was found in 2013 or not, but it's one of the many "not in MacMasters" that are being documented for the eventual 2nd edition ...


Thanks Martin, hadn't seen one before
Alan

gammoner - 2013-12-29 15:33:00
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chefman1 wrote:

Alan...go and fine some coins to bid on...lol


Lol, just doing some sorting on some of this years purchases still

gammoner - 2013-12-29 15:34:00
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As a combination of coin and progeny, I bought this coin for our new arrival - http://i.telegraph.co.uk/multimedia/archive/02662/royal-mint
_2662203b.jpg

chrisr5 - 2013-12-29 17:01:00
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Hey guys can anyone identify this?

http://images.trademe.co.nz/photoserver/full/298129805.jpg
http://images.trademe.co.nz/photoserver/full/298129920.jpg

Thanks

cashintheattic - 2013-12-29 17:06:00
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cashintheattic wrote:

Hey guys can anyone identify this?

http://images.trademe.co.nz/photoserver/full/298129805.jpg
http://images.trademe.co.nz/photoserver/full/298129920.jpg

Thanks

Looks like 2 kurush or qirsh (depending on your preferred spelling)
Egypt 20th year of the reign of Abdul Hamid II starting in 1293 AH (I think) so about 1894.

chrisr5 - 2013-12-29 17:35:00
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Would this be the same as a Guerche. I have a really old copy of the 1981 Standard Catalogue of World Coins

cashintheattic - 2013-12-29 17:48:00
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chrisr5 wrote:

As a combination of coin and progeny, I bought this coin for our new arrival - http://i.telegraph.co.uk/multimedia/archive/02662/royal-mint
_2662203b.jpg


Nice coin, did you order and pay face value?

gammoner - 2013-12-29 17:53:00
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cashintheattic wrote:

Would this be the same as a Guerche. I have a really old copy of the 1981 Standard Catalogue of World Coins

There are indeed multiple spellings as your translating into a western alphabet from Arabic, I'm sure Translate(Ltd) could tell you a whole heap more as it's right up his street. But for now - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Qirsh

chrisr5 - 2013-12-29 20:01:00
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gammoner wrote:


Nice coin, did you order and pay face value?

Yep, you can't complain when you get a coin for it's face value!

chrisr5 - 2013-12-29 20:02:00
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chrisr5 wrote:


There are indeed multiple spellings as your translating into a western alphabet from Arabic, I'm sure Translate(Ltd) could tell you a whole heap more as it's right up his street. But for now - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Qirsh

I'm struggling to add more, but if the ultimate origin is the "denaro grosso" then there is also a distant connection with the British "groat", fwiw.

translateltd - 2013-12-30 08:59:00
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Any idea on what to start the coin at?

cashintheattic - 2013-12-30 09:34:00
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cashintheattic wrote:

Any idea on what to start the coin at?

Unfortunately not a scarce coin and in fine condition (give or take). The silver value is about NZ$1.8 and CV is US$2.5.

chrisr5 - 2013-12-30 10:06:00
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translateltd wrote:

I'm struggling to add more, but if the ultimate origin is the "denaro grosso" then there is also a distant connection with the British "groat", fwiw.

Well you got me reading about groats and the Spithead and Nore mutinies, which were quite interesting!

chrisr5 - 2013-12-30 10:17:00
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chrisr5 wrote:

Well you got me reading about groats and the Spithead and Nore mutinies, which were quite interesting!

I notice a few articles on the mutinies appear to be scanned copies of books that haven't been proofread very well, with reference to "Groat Britain", for instance ...

translateltd - 2013-12-30 10:42:00
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translateltd wrote:

I notice a few articles on the mutinies appear to be scanned copies of books that haven't been proofread very well, with reference to "Groat Britain", for instance ...

Was probably the beginning, "decline of the British Empire " lol.

gammoner - 2013-12-30 11:58:00
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Martin, i have taken some better photos of the 1968 5c coin for you to have a look at....cheers peter
http://images.trademe.co.nz/photoserver/full/298194514.jpg
http://images.trademe.co.nz/photoserver/full/298194663.jpg

chefman1 - 2013-12-30 12:11:00
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gammoner wrote:

Was probably the beginning, "decline of the British Empire " lol.

Groat Britain: wouldn't give you 4d for it :-)

translateltd - 2013-12-30 12:26:00
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chefman1 wrote:

Martin, i have taken some better photos of the 1968 5c coin for you to have a look at....cheers peter

That's quite dramatic die filling/wear - wonder if they used leftover 1967 dies for some of the 1968 run.

translateltd - 2013-12-30 12:28:00
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I seem to be developing a bit of a bison flaw fetish with a parallel collection of oddities in addition to my main set of them. Here's the best one from 2013:

http://images.trademe.co.nz/photoserver/full/298196316.jpg

The lamination flaw below "LIBERTY" is a reasonable one. Interestingly, this one has the closest to zero die rotation of the several I have found here. Most are well in excess of 15 degrees.

I still would like to spend some time researching the exact origin of all these 1914-D Bison Nickels in NZ. I reckon there's a story to be told......

echoriath - 2013-12-30 12:30:00
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This is my first in this particularly brief French series:

http://images.trademe.co.nz/photoserver/full/298195119.jpg
http://images.trademe.co.nz/photoserver/full/298195332.jpg

echoriath - 2013-12-30 12:32:00
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Martin: Was the Harbour Bridge medal issued widely? Was it a fundraising thing, or just a celebratory issue? Is it silver?

echoriath - 2013-12-30 12:35:00
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translateltd wrote:

That's quite dramatic die filling/wear - wonder if they used leftover 1967 dies for some of the 1968 run.


Martin... the coins came from a 1968 blue set of coins,i had to open it up to get the 5c coin out...lol

chefman1 - 2013-12-30 12:36:00
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My personal favourite find of the year (again with the French connection):

http://images.trademe.co.nz/photoserver/full/298196434.jpg
http://images.trademe.co.nz/photoserver/full/298196620.jpg

I got it just a couple months before I went to visit my nephew in France. I gave him some other little pretties, but this will be one for when he finishes uni or similar, assuming his interest in numismatics continues growing.

echoriath - 2013-12-30 12:38:00
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echoriath wrote:

Martin: Was the Harbour Bridge medal issued widely? Was it a fundraising thing, or just a celebratory issue? Is it silver?

It's marked 'silver' on the other side. I don't know anything else about the issue at the moment but need to find out.

translateltd - 2013-12-30 13:12:00
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chefman1 wrote:


Martin... the coins came from a 1968 blue set of coins,i had to open it up to get the 5c coin out...lol

With a combined mintage of only 75,000 for the two set types, though, that's not even a full die run, so you wouldn't expect the die to become worn that quickly, unless it was another problem such as oil filling.

translateltd - 2013-12-30 13:13:00
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translateltd wrote:

With a combined mintage of only 75,000 for the two set types, though, that's not even a full die run, so you wouldn't expect the die to become worn that quickly, unless it was another problem such as oil filling.


thanxs martin...i am going to test the market value on this coin..and see what happens...cheers peter

chefman1 - 2013-12-30 15:38:00
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This would have to be my best French find of the year
http://images.trademe.co.nz/photoserver/full/298229007.jpg
http://images.trademe.co.nz/photoserver/full/298228925.jpg
1873K French 50 centimes Very nice coin and only 166,000 minted.

lester36 - 2013-12-30 17:37:00
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echoriath wrote:

This is my first in this particularly brief French series:

http://images.trademe.co.nz/photoserver/full/298195119.jpg
http://images.trademe.co.nz/photoserver/full/298195332.jpg[/
quote]

Lovely coin and a lovely grade too. I like the way they reverted to what were basically First Republic designs during the brief Second Rep.

translateltd - 2013-12-30 18:28:00
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chrisr5 wrote:

As a combination of coin and progeny, I bought this coin for our new arrival - http://i.telegraph.co.uk/multimedia/archive/02662/royal-mint
_2662203b.jpg

Nice! Keep it clear of the splatter zone.....

echoriath - 2013-12-30 21:52:00
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lester36 wrote:

This would have to be my best French find of the year
http://images.trademe.co.nz/photoserver/full/298229007.jpg
http://images.trademe.co.nz/photoserver/full/298228925.jpg
1873K French 50 centimes Very nice coin and only 166,000 minted.

Yow, lovely! Colour me jealous!

[The emoticon may look like nausea, but it is actually green with envy.]

echoriath - 2013-12-30 21:55:00
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Sixty-five more msgs needed in the next 25½ hours, folks ...

translateltd - 2013-12-30 22:30:00
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This is the other side of the 1969 IHI "Auckland Harbour Bridge Extension" medal:
http://images.trademe.co.nz/photoserver/full/298259059.jpg

translateltd - 2013-12-30 22:45:00
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So someone mentioned joinery, so here are photos of the old and new:

http://images.trademe.co.nz/photoserver/full/298259074.jpg
http://images.trademe.co.nz/photoserver/full/298259152.jpg
http://images.trademe.co.nz/photoserver/full/298259007.jpg

Still a work in progress, but our fridge is no longer in the closet in the next room. The folks that did the place up in the 80s only ever had a proper ice box, but we've tried to bring the place tastefully into the 21st century with old school detailing. Finally using all that lovely timber I've been dragging home for years!

echoriath - 2013-12-30 22:51:00
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translateltd wrote:

Lovely coin and a lovely grade too. I like the way they reverted to what were basically First Republic designs during the brief Second Rep.

Yes, the French are funny that way, revisiting and reviving styles from a previous Republic, having done it right into the 20th century! I was very pleased with this piece.

When we were in Paris, we stopped into le Petit Palais and had a look around the permanent collection, which naturally included a number of pieces (from memory) by Dupré, Barre and Oudiné.

echoriath - 2013-12-30 22:58:00
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translateltd wrote:

This is the other side of the 1969 IHI "Auckland Harbour Bridge Extension" medal:
http://images.trademe.co.nz/photoserver/full/298259059.jpg[/
quote]

Interesting. I'll keep my eyes open for one. Any guesstimate at mintage?

echoriath - 2013-12-30 23:00:00
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Speaking of the French, I always like this trio:
http://images.trademe.co.nz/photoserver/full/298260594.jpg
Oscar Roty's lovely "La Semeuse" (girl sowing) at left, introduced in about 1897, with a couple of US designs that it may have inspired just a little.

translateltd - 2013-12-30 23:09:00
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echoriath wrote:

Interesting. I'll keep my eyes open for one. Any guesstimate at mintage?

This is the only example of the 1969 IHI medal I've seen, and Google isn't very forthcoming with details. The Auckland Council may have something in its archives - there's a research project in there!

translateltd - 2013-12-30 23:15:00
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Any thoughts on what's going on here:

http://images.trademe.co.nz/photoserver/full/298260978.jpg

I think it's just a 1961-D Lincoln Cent, but I don't think the second "1" is broken on the surface as such. Anyone seen this as a recognised error?

echoriath - 2013-12-30 23:18:00
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translateltd wrote:

Speaking of the French, I always like this trio:
http://images.trademe.co.nz/photoserver/full/298260594.jpg
Oscar Roty's lovely "La Semeuse" (girl sowing) at left, introduced in about 1897, with a couple of US designs that it may have inspired just a little.

More than a little, given that the Walking Lib came out just a few years later, as did the Standing Lib Quarter! It is always funny to remind family in the States when they slag off on the US of the strong historical relationship that has existed for centuries now.

Actually, my wife's family hails from GA. We were in France earlier in the year largely because she was singing at her cousin's wedding. Her cousin married a French bloke. The wife's uncle (upon whom the cartoon character Foghorn Leghorn may have been based) could easily have lived down to a stereotype of an American redneck suchandsuch, but he's actually a hell of a guy and welcomed his new SIL into the family with open arms. Was quite a sight seeing him on the streets of France:

http://images.trademe.co.nz/photoserver/full/298263103.jpg

That's him about to embrace a (gay) friend of the bride.

echoriath - 2013-12-30 23:32:00
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45.....

chefman1 - 2013-12-30 23:46:00
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46.....

chefman1 - 2013-12-30 23:46:00
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47...

chefman1 - 2013-12-30 23:47:00
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48...no alan

chefman1 - 2013-12-30 23:47:00
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49...no bruce

chefman1 - 2013-12-30 23:47:00
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50!

(But there's a Tim lurking....)

Edited by echoriath at 11:49 pm, Mon 30 Dec

echoriath - 2013-12-30 23:48:00
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