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oldecurb - 2013-12-18 22:11:00
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oldecurb wrote:

Mine again another half hundy!!


Was saving my bid to the last second but seeing it is nearly Xmas, let you have it .

gammoner - 2013-12-18 23:46:00
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skiff1 - 2013-12-19 00:41:00
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skiff1 wrote:

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translateltd - 2013-12-19 12:01:00
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skiff1 wrote:

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Away

gammoner - 2013-12-19 13:37:00
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auction number [675018123]
have a look at the Questions & Answers...lol

chefman1 - 2013-12-21 23:27:00
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chefman1 wrote:

auction number [675018123]
have a look at the Questions & Answers...lol

It's unique and there were two of them. Twice as good, surely.

translateltd - 2013-12-22 08:39:00
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translateltd wrote:

It's unique and there were two of them. Twice as good, surely.

Yes and just a little more scarce than these ,but only just.
LIMITED EDITION - Only 5 million made! Be a part of History. UNIQUE and very RARE! 677244173

gammoner - 2013-12-22 09:38:00
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translateltd wrote:

It's unique and there were two of them. Twice as good, surely.


at $650.00 no thanxs...lol

chefman1 - 2013-12-22 11:00:00
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Oooop's its back up again...lol

chefman1 - 2013-12-22 11:04:00
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The seller says it may have been struck on a Canadian 5c blank - I've asked about the weight as the CDN coin should be heavier.

translateltd - 2013-12-22 11:17:00
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Looking more plausible if the assertion about the weight is right.

translateltd - 2013-12-22 13:53:00
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translateltd wrote:

It's unique and there were two of them. Twice as good, surely.

I suppose cutting and pasting a definition of "unique" would somehow be seen as sabotage.

echoriath - 2013-12-22 14:24:00
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echoriath wrote:

I suppose cutting and pasting a definition of "unique" would somehow be seen as sabotage.

I fear the word has moved on and left us behind. One-offs will have to be "absolutely unique" until inflation renders that term meaningless too.

translateltd - 2013-12-22 19:48:00
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cashintheattic wrote:

Hey guys what would you grade this coin... I think it is in awesome condition but im no expert lol

http://images.trademe.co.nz/photoserver/full/295545799.jpg
http://images.trademe.co.nz/photoserver/full/295545739.jpg

Cheers

If you are dealing in coins professionally maybe it's about time to learn the tools of your trade instead of asking others to identify and grade coins for you

lbillows - 2013-12-22 20:19:00
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will all i can say about you is... you should take your own advise and paid
for the auctions that you won...your feedback is shocking..that why you are on my BL.
if cashintheattic want's advise we will give it to him, thats why we are here ok

chefman1 - 2013-12-22 20:56:00
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On grading: a book that can still sometimes be found in libraries is "Coins of British Oceania" by RL Clarke, published in the 1960s - it has a denomination-by-denomination grading guide (US style, showing what wear points to look for) for predecimal coins of NZ, Australia and the Islands up to that time. While English coins aren't included, the general principles can be transferred, and the effigies of Geo VI and Elizabeth iI are the same in any case.

translateltd - 2013-12-22 21:14:00
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Thanks Chefman... I have no idea what I have done to be singled out when asking for advice... I am just a newby in this game to be honest... I know a good looking coin when I see it but I have no idea how to grade it... By the way lbillows im guessing santa isnt coming to you this year and thats why you are in a bad mood... Good luck unwrapping that piece of coal under the tree!!!

cashintheattic - 2013-12-22 23:35:00
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muzz8 - 2013-12-23 06:56:00
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muzz8 wrote:

I am only learning too- but i would say VF+ -not quite good enough for XF but close-love to know what others think- Murray

I'd be in the same range - maybe as much as EF but you'd have to mention what looks like some staining around the letters, which takes the visual appeal down a bit. I can't see much actual wear on the pic but there are a few minor edge marks, e.g. by the M of OMN. With British heraldic coins I look at the faces of the leopards to see how much detail there is. These still look pretty strong.

translateltd - 2013-12-23 07:05:00
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Martin, are you referring to the ones within the shield? I wonder to what extent detail at that level is lost due to wear on the dies, type of metal or planchett thickness?

echoriath - 2013-12-23 09:54:00
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i found this coin this morning from a 1968 set of coins, missing part of his tail, which has only three dots,also missing is the top of the sea line right hand side,and parts of this chin is missing to.just found parts of this back also missing.
http://images.trademe.co.nz/photoserver/full/297660845.jpg

Edited by chefman1 at 10:19 am, Mon 23 Dec

chefman1 - 2013-12-23 10:13:00
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echoriath wrote:

Martin, are you referring to the ones within the shield? I wonder to what extent detail at that level is lost due to wear on the dies, type of metal or planchett thickness?

Yes, the smallest ones. You're right - they're all factors to be taken into consideration. If the detail is still there, though, then you have a combination of good strike, unworn die and a high-grade coin. It would be an interesting exercise to compare those details on, say, a high-grade silver UK halfcrown against the harder metal of a cupro-nickel one.

translateltd - 2013-12-23 10:48:00
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chefman1 wrote:

i found this coin this morning from a 1968 set of coins, missing part of his tail, which has only three dots,also missing is the top of the sea line right hand side,and parts of this chin is missing to.just found parts of this back also missing.
http://images.trademe.co.nz/photoserver/full/297660845.jpg[/
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I've heard of a no-sea 1968 before but have never seen a clear image - good find!

translateltd - 2013-12-23 10:50:00
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translateltd wrote:

The 1806 ½d sounds an oddity - I think they were meant to be medal rotation.

I finally got around to taking some photos. They're poor photos, and the coin is still in the holder:
http://images.trademe.co.nz/photoserver/full/297663260.jpg
http://images.trademe.co.nz/photoserver/full/297663517.jpg

But then, the coin is not in particularly good condition. Still, I am left thinking of the Machin's Mill imitation Halfpence, though the effigy on this is considerably smaller. Any chance it's a later counterfeit? Maybe someone did not know better.

echoriath - 2013-12-23 11:49:00
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echoriath wrote:


Maybe someone did not know better....

with respect to orientation.

echoriath - 2013-12-23 12:18:00
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chrisr5 wrote:

Hey Chefman, just busy with this and that in the run up to xmas. Birthday minus 10 for Eilidh's sibling and what have you.

Congrats to Chris & Laurie!!!

echoriath - 2013-12-23 12:31:00
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echoriath wrote:

with respect to orientation.

I've checked against some Georgian coppers and everything I can find from Geo I through to the first coinage of Geo IV is coinage rotation. Medal rotation kicks in only with the second copper coinage of Geo IV in 1825/26 and is consistent from then.

translateltd - 2013-12-23 19:55:00
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Merry Christmas Guys!!! Thanks so much for all the help over the past year... Im already amassing some coins to list for the new year.... Chat to you all then!!!

cashintheattic - 2013-12-24 12:53:00
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echoriath wrote:

Congrats to Chris & Laurie!!!

Thanks for that and I'll pass the message onto my dad, he's chuffed at having another grandson.

chrisr5 - 2013-12-24 23:31:00
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chrisr5 wrote:

Thanks for that and I'll pass the message onto my dad, he's chuffed at having another grandson.

And Elaine (who gets most of the credit anyway)!!!

echoriath - 2013-12-25 00:14:00
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echoriath wrote:

And Elaine (who gets most of the credit anyway)!!!

Congrats from us too!

translateltd - 2013-12-25 09:16:00
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How did everyone's MERRY CHRISTMAS go.
Not too many lows and plenty of High times I hope.
Looking forward to many more interesting topics next year.

That is as long as the world doesn't end on January the first . :-)

lester36 - 2013-12-27 10:35:00
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Has anyone noticed a high proportion of 1999 5 cent coins have faults
http://images.trademe.co.nz/photoserver/full/297978903.jpg
This is one I found today ,Notice how many extra bits of metal are around the 5 .
Also the signature is rough with extra metal at the top.
This is 1 of 4 I was looking at and 1 other had small imperfections around the 5 as well.

Anyone with explanations to the high proportion with faults.

Cheers

lester36 - 2013-12-27 21:46:00
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lester36 wrote:

Has anyone noticed a high proportion of 1999 5 cent coins have faults


Not sure about explanations but it was quite a startling year for oddities on the 5c. Die rotations were all over the place, too. At the time, I lent 100 of them picked at random from a bank bag to a colleague with a microscope and lots of patience, and after not very long he had "mapped" most of the variations and was able to tell me what the die rotation would be, just by looking at the flaws on the reverse. Some, but not all, of these were discussed in NZNJ articles (nos. 77, 85 and 87 (Dec 1999, Dec 2006 and Mar 2008)).

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translateltd - 2013-12-27 22:20:00
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oldecurb - 2013-12-27 22:51:00
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haha fair enough Oldecurb. Heidi is my wife....

cashintheattic - 2013-12-27 23:18:00
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. Die rotations were all over the place, too. At the time, I lent 100 of them picked at random from a bank bag to a colleague with a microscope and lots of patience, and after not very long he had "mapped" most of the variations and was able to tell me what the die rotation would be, just by looking at the flaws on the reverse. Some, but not all, of these were discussed in NZNJ articles (nos. 77, 85 and 87 (Dec 1999, Dec 2006 and Mar 2008)).[/quote]

Interesting, Just had a check of the 5 Cent in the photo I posted and it has a die rotation of about 35 degrees.

lester36 - 2013-12-28 07:46:00
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Nice looking 1944 1/2 crown Peter, 677348157
Seasons greetings to all. Regards,Alan

gammoner - 2013-12-28 22:41:00
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Ok, so Merry Holidays and Happy Newt Ears, etc. I do hope everyone's had a good and safe one.

Now, while I fish around in my pile of five cent pieces specifically looking for the 1999s, how about a challenge to all the regular and irregular participants: Post a few photos of your best finds of 2013. This need not be a dollar value thing. It can be the one piece that completed a series, or something you've just been searching for since forever and finally found. Maybe it's just an ordinary piece that turned out to be a bit extraordinary......

Can we crack a triple sandy in the next 48 hours?

echoriath - 2013-12-29 13:57:00
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Photos of progeny and joinery will be accepted in substitution for numismatic items.

echoriath - 2013-12-29 14:24:00
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echoriath wrote:

Photos of progeny and joinery will be accepted in substitution for numismatic items.


Ok, onto it and will do some postings later.

gammoner - 2013-12-29 15:12:00
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gammoner wrote:

Nice looking 1944 1/2 crown Peter, 677348157
Seasons greetings to all. Regards,Alan

lol...i was wondering if you were about...waiting for you to bid.
shocking photo....hope its a good one?

chefman1 - 2013-12-29 15:20:00
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chefman1 wrote:

lol...i was wondering if you were about...waiting for you to bid.
shocking photo....hope its a good one?


Was watching the ending with interest, but hey it is Xmas and left you alone.

gammoner - 2013-12-29 15:23:00
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Can't wait to get the New Year underway and back to a few ambushes and auction hijackings lol

gammoner - 2013-12-29 15:24:00
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echoriath wrote:

Photos of progeny and joinery will be accepted in substitution for numismatic items.

best fine i have found was the 1968 5c no sea....post 2872

chefman1 - 2013-12-29 15:25:00
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97

chefman1 - 2013-12-29 15:26:00
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98

chefman1 - 2013-12-29 15:26:00
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99...lol

chefman1 - 2013-12-29 15:26:00
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Bump 98

gammoner - 2013-12-29 15:26:00
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