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echoriath - 2013-09-23 21:29:00

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akashicisis2 - 2013-09-24 10:58:00

bizarre67 wrote:

Thank you for your wisdom, the money doesn't matter, I have to list them anyway.

My apologies - I'm too used to the unstated but underlying question "and what's it worth?" :-) Happy to help with IDs whenever possible in any case.

translateltd - 2013-09-25 13:22:00

translateltd wrote:

My apologies - I'm too used to the unstated but underlying question "and what's it worth?" :-) Happy to help with IDs whenever possible in any case.

Thank you, and also thanks Alan.

bizarre67 - 2013-09-28 16:51:00

bizarre67 wrote:

Thank you, and also thanks Alan.

All good Dee, wow those scrap silver auctions today went really well, 40 to 50 times face value for scrap coinage was a great result.

gammoner - 2013-09-29 23:22:00

641910763 and 641910304 were just a couple of examples of what can happen when two willing buyers clash.

gammoner - 2013-09-29 23:28:00

nenes11 wrote:

I am wanting to find out about getting my mums coin collection appraised,(Hamilton) its not a large collection but it has some old coins. 1885 one penny, 3x 1969 james cook bi-centenary , hawkes bay and gisborne savings bank. I would like to find out more info on these coins. Any help would be appreciated.Thanks.

Hi nenes, posting some photos of the older ones on here would be a good start. If unsure how to do that, just ask. You can also search current and expired listings for some idea of what things really sell for. That actually begs the question: Do you want an appraisal for insurance reasons, or are you thinking of selling and want some idea of how much they are worth? Also, what country/countries are the coins from? Are they all British? If not, what other countries and what sort of date ranges?

echoriath - 2013-09-30 00:04:00

Love Chinglish? This is a lovely example: 645355092

iamriff - 2013-10-01 16:43:00

iamriff wrote:

Love Chinglish? This is a lovely example: 645355092

Velly itersting.

lester36 - 2013-10-01 17:34:00

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oldecurb - 2013-10-01 20:49:00

iamriff wrote:

Love Chinglish? This is a lovely example: 645355092

$18 for "air transportation"?

Oh!

Sounds like they got a really cheap flight and will be delivering in person?

echoriath - 2013-10-01 21:00:00

echoriath wrote:

$18 for "air transportation"?

Sounds like they got a really cheap flight and will be delivering in person?

Think this is the same seller from last week who had a .999 x 1kg "Asian looking Gold Bar " for sale at $15000-00 over spot.No pickups, no safetrader and once funds were deposited ,seller was going to drop of to your bank lol.
The said bar in the persons hand in the pic looked straight out of the Shanghai Daily paper,

gammoner - 2013-10-01 21:50:00

Will see if I get a response to my unanswered Q on their auction 643745582

"Can you add safe trader to the Payment options, as no pickups allowed and air transportation is the only delivery method .How do I get on for an across town delivery to Lower Hutt with your payment option of cash as listed? Thanks gammoner (1552 ) 6:15 pm, Tue 1 Oct"

gammoner - 2013-10-01 21:54:00

oldecurb wrote:

642840200 Spirited bidding from 3 bidders! Will the other 2 let me win?!!! I hope the coin is nice and that its not just excellent photography

Yes Bruce was a good run to the finish line.I was first with the white flag up though. All the best,Alan

gammoner - 2013-10-01 21:58:00

Listing 645518993 , cheap at a $1000-00 start price .I give up

gammoner - 2013-10-01 22:47:00

gammoner wrote:

Will see if I get a response to my unanswered Q on their auction 643745582

"Can you add safe trader to the Payment options, as no pickups allowed and air transportation is the only delivery method .How do I get on for an across town delivery to Lower Hutt with your payment option of cash as listed? Thanks gammoner (1552 ) 6:15 pm, Tue 1 Oct"

I am left wondering about a coin that says "genuine not gradable" on one side and MS69 on the other. Can anyone shed light or does it fall under my first law of numismatics - never buy a coin of a trader from China.

chrisr5 - 2013-10-02 13:34:00

Can someone explain to me the sales prices of these Kennedy halves? I might just have to chuck a few up if they're going to sell so high above book/spot.

echoriath - 2013-10-02 20:26:00

chrisr5 wrote:

I am left wondering about a coin that says "genuine not gradable" on one side and MS69 on the other. Can anyone shed light or does it fall under my first law of numismatics - never buy a coin of a trader from China.

Dude, there are so many contradictions on that listing, it's almost not even funny.

echoriath - 2013-10-02 20:29:00

echoriath wrote:

Can someone explain to me the sales prices of these Kennedy halves? I might just have to chuck a few up if they're going to sell so high above book/spot.

Yes hard to believe. I have 12 rolls of the 1964 still in the unc rolled paper, about to be dispatched to the melting pot.
Think a few well worn NZ 1/2 crowns may also reap similar rewards.See auction 642721414 and 642720970

gammoner - 2013-10-02 21:04:00

I posted this for chefman in a new thread, but I have been informed he isn't around for a while.
What is the best way to send something like my half sovereign to a buyer ?Should it be registered post or is it OK to send signature required? Most of the sellers on here have sig required but I know some couriers are lazy and if it goes missing there is no comeback for something like that, is there?

rose-murray - 2013-10-03 09:55:00

rose-murray wrote:

What is the best way to send something like my half sovereign to a buyer ?Should it be registered post or is it OK to send signature required? Most of the sellers on here have sig required but I know some couriers are lazy and if it goes missing there is no comeback for something like that, is there?

Depends if you're posting domestically or internationally. With domestic post it's basically at your risk or as agreed with the buyer - there is no comeback for "valuables", even though that's what registered post and courier services were supposed to be for. Internationally, RNSNZ members can send coins with protection if they adhere to certain criteria as set out in the agreement with NZ Post.

Courier consignments are generally safe - I've only had three "issues" in many hundreds of consignments, one in which someone stole the entire courier van, and two in which - somehow - an unintended third party managed to sign for the parcels and all trace was lost. A courier firm is still trying to help track down one of the latter examples at the mo, but I'm holding out less hope with each day that passes.

Digressing here, sorry! Couriers would probably be the best way to go, but pack the coin well so it can't be felt through the bag and won't rattle. Some bubble wrap and firm cardboard are essential tools.

translateltd - 2013-10-03 16:12:00

translateltd wrote:

Depends if you're posting domestically or internationally. With domestic post it's basically at your risk or as agreed with the buyer - there is no comeback for "valuables", even though that's what registered post and courier services were supposed to be for. Internationally, RNSNZ members can send coins with protection if they adhere to certain criteria as set out in the agreement with NZ Post.

Courier consignments are generally safe - I've only had three "issues" in many hundreds of consignments, one in which someone stole the entire courier van, and two in which - somehow - an unintended third party managed to sign for the parcels and all trace was lost. A courier firm is still trying to help track down one of the latter examples at the mo, but I'm holding out less hope with each day that passes.

Digressing here, sorry! Couriers would probably be the best way to go, but pack the coin well so it can't be felt through the bag and won't rattle. Some bubble wrap and firm cardboard are essential tools.

Thanks for the advice. I am not a collector or dealer, I just have this half sovereign that has been in the family for years (now mine). I need some money so it has to go. I just wasn't sure. it seems ridiculous that things are banned, when the only way anyone would know it was valuable, would be if you packed it in gladwrap.

rose-murray - 2013-10-03 16:49:00

rose-murray wrote:

Thanks for the advice. I am not a collector or dealer, I just have this half sovereign that has been in the family for years (now mine). I need some money so it has to go. I just wasn't sure. it seems ridiculous that things are banned, when the only way anyone would know it was valuable, would be if you packed it in gladwrap.

To add just a bit to the good advice above: Please do NOT apply tape or other adhesives directly to coins. Fold them up in paper or plastic and apply tape to that.

echoriath - 2013-10-03 18:03:00

gammoner wrote:

Will see if I get a response to my unanswered Q on their auction 643745582

"Can you add safe trader to the Payment options, as no pickups allowed and air transportation is the only delivery method .How do I get on for an across town delivery to Lower Hutt with your payment option of cash as listed? Thanks gammoner (1552 ) 6:15 pm, Tue 1 Oct"

Alan....the trader that had all the higher bidds on all thoughs auctions was >>>"shill bidding" just letting you know...cheers peter

chefman1 - 2013-10-03 18:16:00

chefman1 wrote:

Alan....the trader that had all the higher bidds on all thoughs auctions was >>>"shill bidding" just letting you know...cheers peter

Thanks Peter
All the very best,Alan

gammoner - 2013-10-03 20:33:00

chefman1 wrote:

Alan....the trader that had all the higher bidds on all thoughs auctions was >>>"shill bidding" just letting you know...cheers peter

Saw the high bid go on the 1/2 oz, think you will find TM pulls it at auction close .

gammoner - 2013-10-03 20:35:00

chefman1 wrote:

Alan....the trader that had all the higher bidds on all thoughs auctions was >>>"shill bidding" just letting you know...cheers peter

You got the ban reversed chefman1. Good on you!

chrisr5 - 2013-10-03 22:46:00

Anyone know much about an 1893 South African threepence ? I have one but it isn't in great condition and has a small hole drilled through the top. I saw one on e bay that was worth quite a bit but i am guessing that mine will be worthless.

rose-murray - 2013-10-04 10:51:00

rose-murray wrote:

Anyone know much about an 1893 South African threepence ? I have one but it isn't in great condition and has a small hole drilled through the top. I saw one on e bay that was worth quite a bit but i am guessing that mine will be worthless.

In fine condition (F) - i.e worn but words and details still visible - Catalogue Value (CV) is about US$3, in Uncirculated it is US$250. Those are quoted from the Standard Catalogue of World Coins 1801-1900 6th Ed.

Edit to add - With a hole drilled in it will probably be worth less than F condition - it has about NZ$1 worth of silver in it.
And also with eBay-
Was that a price that it was sold for or a price that someone was trying to sell for?

Edited by chrisr5 at 11:10 am, Fri 4 Oct

chrisr5 - 2013-10-04 11:06:00

chrisr5 wrote:

You got the ban reversed chefman1. Good on you!

lol....i got the same as you = ban = one month...good to see you

chefman1 - 2013-10-04 11:08:00

chefman1 wrote:

lol....i got the same as you = ban = one month...good to see you

Good to see you too.

I just realised you had been gone a whole month, I don't pop in so much any more.

You got all your old posts put back in so I thought you must have had it reversed rather than serving out the whole month. My posts were never returned and of course the coin club......... :-(

chrisr5 - 2013-10-04 11:16:00

chrisr5 wrote:

In fine condition (F) - i.e worn but words and details still visible - Catalogue Value (CV) is about US$3, in Uncirculated it is US$250. Those are quoted from the Standard Catalogue of World Coins 1801-1900 6th Ed.

Edit to add - With a hole drilled in it will probably be worth less than F condition - it has about NZ$1 worth of silver in it.
And also with eBay-
Was that a price that it was sold for or a price that someone was trying to sell for?

I can't find it again. it was in the UK. It's just that I have come across a box of coins from all over the place. I don't know anything about them and I'd like to clear them out. I think I will just put them into groups of country of origin and denomination etc. There are a couple of unusual ones though like this South African 3p. It took me ages to figure out exactly what it was. Googling on dial up is a bitch.

rose-murray - 2013-10-04 11:48:00

http://images.trademe.co.nz/photoserver/full/286728349.jpg
http://images.trademe.co.nz/photoserver/full/286727249.jpg
this is the coin

rose-murray - 2013-10-04 12:06:00

rose-murray wrote:

http://images.trademe.co.nz/photoserver/f
ull/286728349.jpg
http://images.trademe.co.nz/photoserver/full/286727249.jpg
this is the coin

It's condition is possibly good/poor - worse than fine.

You have my sympathies for the dial-up. I didn't realise people still used that..... ;-)

chrisr5 - 2013-10-04 12:56:00

rose-murray wrote:

http://images.trademe.co.nz/photoserver/f
ull/286728349.jpg
http://images.trademe.co.nz/photoserver/full/286727249.jpg
this is the coin

$1 worth on a good day

gammoner - 2013-10-04 12:58:00

chrisr5 wrote:

It's condition is possibly good/poor - worse than fine.

You have my sympathies for the dial-up. I didn't realise people still used that..... ;-)

Just what i thought. best to check though. Dial up? I don't get a choice.

rose-murray - 2013-10-04 13:10:00

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wizard10 - 2013-10-04 17:59:00

646735823
Oh Oh, the gold sellers are back and have moved up from a 1kg to 20kg for a bargain price of start reserve $1,150,000-00. Now only $110,000-00 over what you can walk in off the street and purchase at my refinery.Would love to comment on their auction but have been blacklisted after their 1kg bar auction.

gammoner - 2013-10-04 19:19:00

Free shipping? Hell, I'd expect them to throw in a week overseas as well if I'm throwing that kind of coin around. I guess the item pictured is not the actual item being sold, since they are only 1 KG bars in the image.

echoriath - 2013-10-04 19:31:00

echoriath wrote:

Free shipping? Hell, I'd expect them to throw in a week overseas as well if I'm throwing that kind of coin around. I guess the item pictured is not the actual item being sold, since they are only 1 KG bars in the image.

638510281
This was the previous 1kg bar listing ,nice pic .

gammoner - 2013-10-04 19:41:00

Well, I've had a go at poking the tiger, though I have not yet poked it right in the eye. We'll see what happens.

echoriath - 2013-10-04 19:48:00

echoriath wrote:

Well, I've had a go at poking the tiger, though I have not yet poked it right in the eye. We'll see what happens.

Mind you, we should give them credit where due, have you seen the last 5 of 7 feedbacks. Hey it's only a little over a million at the end of the day.

gammoner - 2013-10-04 19:51:00

Well, they seem to have withdrawn a swag of listings. Do you get the credit/blame there, Alan?

echoriath - 2013-10-05 20:43:00

echoriath wrote:

Well, they seem to have withdrawn a swag of listings. Do you get the credit/blame there, Alan?

Possibly,as I had asked TM that they were confident that the seller had in their legal possession the over $1 million worth of product for sale.

gammoner - 2013-10-05 22:06:00

any-body...going to the big coin auction...next week in wellington ?

chefman1 - 2013-10-06 12:31:00

wizard10 wrote:

Hi all. NZ Pre-Decimal coins - I have a bundle! Best advice? Should I sort into sixpence, florin etc and split at 1947?

That's a good way to do it. Also if any look in better than average nick you can pop up a picture or 2 here for opinion on condition if it is worth selling individually.

chrisr5 - 2013-10-06 13:56:00

chefman1 wrote:

any-body...goi-
ng to the big coin auction...next week in wellington ?

I had intended to go but circumstances changed, so will have to wait until next year.

chrisr5 - 2013-10-06 14:05:00

*Looks around nonchalantly*

chrisr5 - 2013-10-06 14:05:00

*Whistles innocently*

chrisr5 - 2013-10-06 14:06:00

Half Sandy or fundy?

chrisr5 - 2013-10-06 14:06:00