Welcome to the Coin Club. We are an assortment of newbies, amateurs and experts with questions and answers for newbies, amateurs and experts in coin collecting, also known as numismatics. Whether you are just getting started, have been collecting for years or have simply found some old coins about the place that you’d like to sell, this is the place to ask your questions.

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echoriath - 2013-06-03 21:48:00

re 2049: Hold them at an angle to the light and look across the top surface of the notes, too - it's amazing how often a note that looks uncirculated turns out to have some folds or crinkles that have been flattened out. Even a slight bend in the corner from counting them out ("teller's flick") can be enough to mark them down a notch for the purists.

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translateltd - 2013-06-03 23:22:00

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oldecurb - 2013-06-04 19:08:00

Haha, love it. And I thought I was paranoid with packaging.

wasgonna - 2013-06-04 20:39:00

Geez, where's the kevlar and carbon fibre? You're REALLY lucky that arrived safely.

echoriath - 2013-06-04 20:47:00

Serious overkill! (There are some details on the box I would have blanked out before photographing, mind ...)

translateltd - 2013-06-04 22:28:00

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oldecurb - 2013-06-04 23:28:00

oldecurb wrote:

Yeah, maybe...but if you mean my details Martin then anyone selling me a coin on TM gets those exact details

I think Martin meant the stamps - people might start thinking you're a stamp collector *shudder* (sorry rebel58 - all in the aid of humour ;-))

chrisr5 - 2013-06-05 22:43:00

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oldecurb - 2013-06-05 23:01:00

oldecurb wrote:

double shudder!! lol. I sometimes get envelopes from around the world that are full of stamps and I save them in case I find a stamp collector but I never do so I finally throw them out. Seems a shame though, you would think someone would like them

Ever try to list any one here? Two dollar reserve is probably still not worth the hassle, but it would be interesting to see the result, especially if the packaging was slathered with stamps. Personally, I've dumped a fair few in the recycling myself.

echoriath - 2013-06-05 23:13:00

chrisr5 wrote:

I think Martin meant the stamps - people might start thinking you're a stamp collector *shudder* (sorry rebel58 - all in the aid of humour ;-))

Those stamp collectors are unhinged, I tell ya!

echoriath - 2013-06-05 23:13:00

echoriath wrote:

Those stamp collectors are unhinged, I tell ya!

Grrrr !!! lol

spike_01 - 2013-06-06 07:47:00

echoriath wrote:

Those stamp collectors are unhinged, I tell ya!

Not many will be mint unhinged any more, though.

translateltd - 2013-06-06 08:02:00

´Waikouaiti default´

lbillows - 2013-06-06 10:37:00

Hi Guys
Am just wondering what the 1961NZ half crown is worth. Have looked at forum posts and one chap says it is in the region of $90. One chap on TM says they are valued at $8 in average condition. A coin collector I spoke to in the weekend says they are worth about $70 when he was looking at one of my ones.
Any advice appreciated.

tsuba - 2013-06-06 15:17:00

chrisr5 wrote:

I think Martin meant the stamps - people might start thinking you're a stamp collector *shudder* (sorry rebel58 - all in the aid of humour ;-))

It really must piss you off having to put stamps on envelopes to post coins or to pay for postage but who cares Coins are dieing long live stamps.

rebel58 - 2013-06-06 16:18:00

Stamp collecting a gentleman's Hobby,Coin collecting? perhaps a mongrels hobby? Wars have been fought,countries overrun,piracy ,bank robberies etc etc all because of the Coin.Let alone the bad spelling of some posters.Of course coin collecting has been around for longer than Stamp Collecting so it stands to reason that we have less crazies ,illiterates and thieves in our hobby.
PS. all in the aid of humor ;-))

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rebel58 - 2013-06-06 16:27:00

tsuba wrote:

Hi Guys
Am just wondering what the 1961NZ half crown is worth. Have looked at forum posts and one chap says it is in the region of $90. One chap on TM says they are valued at $8 in average condition. A coin collector I spoke to in the weekend says they are worth about $70 when he was looking at one of my ones.
Any advice appreciated.

It depends entirely on condition, An average one that has been in circulation and has a moderate amount of wear is catalogued at $8 at the moment, as you've seen. A perfect example that was put aside when new and is otherwise untouched by human hands catalogues at $90. All other shades of condition fall between those extremes. And ultimately they're worth what someone is prepared to pay :-)

translateltd - 2013-06-06 18:09:00

rebel58 wrote:

It really must piss you off having to put stamps on envelopes to post coins or to pay for postage but who cares Coins are dieing long live stamps.

Not at all - I use postage receipt labels with pretty designs for the purpose they were intended for :-)

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translateltd - 2013-06-06 18:10:00

translateltd wrote:

It depends entirely on condition, An average one that has been in circulation and has a moderate amount of wear is catalogued at $8 at the moment, as you've seen. A perfect example that was put aside when new and is otherwise untouched by human hands catalogues at $90. All other shades of condition fall between those extremes. And ultimately they're worth what someone is prepared to pay :-)

Thank you for that.

tsuba - 2013-06-06 18:12:00

Speaking of postage receipt labels (I know, probably wrong thread), I peeled off 5 x 28c stamps this morning to make up $1.40 and noticed that they were the 1969 Bicentennial issue. 28c at the time must have been about ten times the standard postal rate so I wonder what they would have been used for in the day. And it would have been a hefty sum for someone to have put aside a sheet of a hundred as an investment ...

translateltd - 2013-06-06 18:14:00

Nearly as good as a delivery I had a couple of years ago. Was for a 1oz Krugerrand and came with "free shipping" included in the auction blurb.
Sure enough it arrived, in an unstamped plain envelope with the coin rolling from one end to the other. I had to pay for the standard postage plus a premium for the extra handling by the Post Office.
Moral of the story, work out who is getting the free shipping at the start lol.

gammoner - 2013-06-06 19:24:00

gammoner wrote:

Nearly as good as a delivery I had a couple of years ago. Was for a 1oz Krugerrand and came with "free shipping" included in the auction blurb.
Sure enough it arrived, in an unstamped plain envelope with the coin rolling from one end to the other. /quote]

Yikes! Last item that was sent to me rolling about loose in the envelope had been shaken free in transit by the time the empty envelope arrived, with a medal-sized hole in the side of it. That's why I nag sellers whom I haven't previously dealt with to conceal items between cardboard as an absolute minimum. My loss was only $5 or so, so was tolerable. Hope you bought a lotto ticket that day.

translateltd - 2013-06-06 20:19:00

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chrisr5 - 2013-06-07 23:42:00

rebel58 wrote:

Stamp collecting a gentleman's Hobby,Coin collecting? perhaps a mongrels hobby? Wars have been fought,countries overrun,piracy ,bank robberies etc etc all because of the Coin.Let alone the bad spelling of some posters.Of course coin collecting has been around for longer than Stamp Collecting so it stands to reason that we have less crazies ,illiterates and thieves in our hobby.
PS. all in the aid of humor ;-))

We're lucky to have you in the cartel!

chrisr5 - 2013-06-07 23:45:00

I am a humble person but you are right!!!!

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rebel58 - 2013-06-08 09:16:00

rebel58 wrote:

Blah,blah................blah blah ................blah blah blah blah !!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Wow!! You must have been a Public Servant. In other words a parasite on the public purse. How else could you have survived!? Tell me why you consider that you are so so== superior to everyone else ? My post was to mention that most of us on the coin thread are not impoverished. And to
recognise that many people are not wealthy through any fault of their own.. I did not attack anyone.in this post.

alpha111 - 2013-06-09 00:08:00

Interestingly, Alpha111, the figure quoted (279,000 children) is relative poverty as opposed to absolute poverty. Relative poverty relates to earning a percentage of the median income. So if for instance NZ's median income was higher with a similar distribution of wages as a percentage there would be still the same number of people in poverty in spite of earning more. As such it is a largely meaningless statistic (aren't they all?). Also, it doesn't into account 'concealed income' such as subsistence nutrition - growing your own or kai moana for instance.

Who was that said there's lies, damn lies and statistics?

chrisr5 - 2013-06-09 01:58:00

alpha111 wrote:

Wow!! You must have been a Public Servant. In other words a parasite on the public purse. How else could you have survived!? Tell me why you consider that you are so so== superior to everyone else ? My post was to mention that most of us on the coin thread are not impoverished. And to
recognise that many people are not wealthy through any fault of their own.. I did not attack anyone.in this post.

You are right or nearly right I have been a public servant working in DOC (Pest Control)Most of the Wildlife OK 98%. The rest ,Pedophiles, poorly educated (but most could spell recognize properly) mentally unstable and generally nasty types.Job really not to protect the public but to protect them from each other.

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rebel58 - 2013-06-09 08:47:00

Recognise/recognize: in my job I write "-ize" for Americans and "-ise" for everyone else. They are usually happy. I know Oxford likes its z's but that's its problem.

translateltd - 2013-06-09 15:41:00

translateltd wrote:

Speaking of postage receipt labels (I know, probably wrong thread), I peeled off 5 x 28c stamps this morning to make up $1.40 and noticed that they were the 1969 Bicentennial issue. 28c at the time must have been about ten times the standard postal rate so I wonder what they would have been used for in the day. And it would have been a hefty sum for someone to have put aside a sheet of a hundred as an investment ...

Re the 1969 Cook Bicentenary stamps - you are probably aware that they came out in 4c 6c 18c and 23c denominations. Also a Miniature sheet complemented this issue, and if you have the "Tarapex" Cachet overprint that is very scarce. By crikey I'd love to be the recipient of that strip of 28c stamps. Some Dealers use that issue on their postings [generally if they have foxing or some faults], but I can't bring myself to as they are seldom seen. Have always found that stamp to be quite difficult to obtain, even back in the 70s - 90s. The 4c denomination was the letter rate of the day, the 6c probably larger size envelopes, 18c probably used for North America / Asia postage rate, and the 28c must have been the rate to European countries. The used 6c and 28c were always particularly scarce. Good question though - 28c could have also been the rate used for Registered and Insured mail. I must check that out, but if you are going to use that particular stamp tell the recipient to save the stamps - they are still catalogued at up to $8 each both mint and used, would be a pity if they are binned.

loision - 2013-06-10 20:02:00

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oldecurb - 2013-06-10 22:23:00

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chrisr5 - 2013-06-11 17:41:00

Oh for God sake get over yourself acting like a silly old fogey - I enjoy the coins as much as the stamps. Or do you own the thread? I answered a question of course posted on here, and get on really well with Martin.

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loision - 2013-06-12 11:49:00

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oldecurb - 2013-06-12 23:11:00

echoriath wrote:

Ever try to list any one here? Two dollar reserve is probably still not worth the hassle, but it would be interesting to see the result, especially if the packaging was slathered with stamps. Personally, I've dumped a fair few in the recycling myself.

Charity takes them what Kid didnt start with stamps ,Richie Rich?

paxpal - 2013-06-13 01:08:00

Does Visa's new PayWave signal the imminent demise of cash? Talk about stigmatising the use of actual currency. And should we move to a truly paperless economy, what then for numismatists? Will it help or hurt the value of coins and notes as collectibles?

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echoriath - 2013-06-13 01:09:00

paxpal wrote:

what Kid didnt start with stamps?

Young numismatists started by looking through pocket change, mum and dad's (and the grandparents') accumulations of coins, swapping out old coins from the till of the family business, going to banks to exchange a tenner for a roll of half dollars. I saved the odd stamp, but they're a bit more of a needle in the haystack as concerns rarity and value.

For the record, we were pretty much dirt poor growing up. My mother insists it was "living simply". It was. Well, it was living simply because we did not have a lot of money.

echoriath - 2013-06-13 01:22:00

I have to Laugh at the Guy who 'finds' a rare coin cleaning up and lists it as uncirculated but baulks at questions,wanting top money,Ive had em all old new rare etc and knew some very good dealers.The public care nothing for coins its the collectors and dealers who set the market and the first rule,its only worth what someone will pay!

paxpal - 2013-06-13 01:26:00

echoriath wrote:

Does Visa's new PayWave signal the imminent demise of cash? Talk about stigmatising the use of actual currency. And should we move to a truly paperless economy, what then for numismatists? Will it help or hurt the value of coins and notes as collectibles?

I will try and see if the Trademe Jester has something to say on this matter as you are sounding like a bit of a "Nanna"
But in my Humble opinion it will become more elitist than it is already no more 6d's in the pudding (unless you are a show off or a multi millionaire).
Small babies and children will be fitted with grills so that they will not be able to swallow coins and therefore ruin the Patina. Instead of Wallets mini metal collectors will be the norm.Doors will have to be widened for the swelled heads of the more pom-pas collectors. After all it has been stated that. Quote :-- My post was to mention that most of us on the coin thread are not impoverished. Blah blah.....Blah blah.......... Blah blah Blah Blah blah!!!!!!!!!
The Dead and sometimes dying will have their pockets turned out before they are buried.
Forgeries will abound.
And the worst for last the Tooth Fairy will be no more!!!!!!!!!!!

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rebel58 - 2013-06-13 06:48:00

Hey guys, does anyone know what a 1906 penny is worth?

morc63 - 2013-06-13 18:30:00

morc63 wrote:

Hey guys, does anyone know what a 1906 penny is worth?

The best way to get an accurate answer is to post a photo here.

echoriath - 2013-06-13 19:34:00

Why would this interest a dealer? http://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/Listing.aspx?id=601427938 Cheers Kelly

vibr8a - 2013-06-13 22:23:00

vibr8a wrote:

Why would this interest a dealer? http://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/Listing.aspx?id=601427938 Cheers Kelly

You would have to ask Peter that Q.
They were issued by the old Bank of NSW for $5 each to raise funds for the expedition. No info on numbers struck.

gammoner - 2013-06-13 22:37:00

morc63 wrote:

Hey guys, does anyone know what a 1906 penny is worth?

Yes.

donaldo wrote:

if english almost 38 million were issued so a worn coin might be worth 50 cents

I've got a GB 1904 penny with excellent details but heavily toned - according to the catalogues it's worth roughly $50-70. I would be surprised at getting a quarter of that over in NZ. Or to quote paxpal -

paxpal wrote:

the first rule,its only worth what someone will pay!

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chrisr5 - 2013-06-14 00:15:00

1906 penny: without getting hopes up too high, bear in mind that a worn or damaged example will be worth only a few cents for its metal content. So there's the range, depending entirely on condition: between nothing and $100 or so. If it's a US "penny" (i.e. cent), then likewise between about $1 and $60.

translateltd - 2013-06-14 08:10:00

vibr8a wrote:

Why would this interest a dealer? http://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/Listing.aspx?id=601427938 Cheers Kelly

He must know something we don't :-) The John Bertrand guide price is $10, and most sales I've recorded are in the $10-$15 range, with one outlier at $25.

translateltd - 2013-06-14 08:12:00

Almost there ...

translateltd - 2013-06-14 10:45:00

Got it!

translateltd - 2013-06-14 10:45:00