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cashintheattic wrote:

ahh cool so not worth anything really?

they do sell..i have a few of them in my token collection

chefman1 - 2012-08-25 14:30:00
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Welcome to the Coin Club. We are an assortment of newbies, amateurs and experts with questions and answers for newbies, amateurs and experts in coin collecting, also known as numismatics. Whether you are just getting started, have been collecting for years or have simply found some old coins about the place that you’d like to sell, this is the place to ask your questions.

No one has all the answers, and you may get five differing answers to the same question, yet each may be right in a manner of speaking, especially if opinions are involved. Opinions often vary. If you receive no answer to your query within 48 hours, please ask again.

echoriath - 2012-08-25 14:31:00
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tim...i was waiting for you to put it up... very sorry

chefman1 - 2012-08-25 14:32:00
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I sold a gaming token that resembled those for more than $30. I thought very little of it and had planned to be happy if I got $5.

The Asian coin I cannot help at all, I am afraid. I am extremely lacking in knowledge on that front.

echoriath - 2012-08-25 14:33:00
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Thanks guys!! Ill list the gaming tokens then

cashintheattic - 2012-08-25 14:35:00
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chefman1 wrote:

tim...i was waiting for you to put it up... very sorry

No worries at all.

echoriath - 2012-08-25 14:35:00
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one of the gold coins is not like the others it doesnt have In memory of the good old days on it. Is this still a token or is it something else???

cashintheattic - 2012-08-25 14:40:00
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This coin is different to the other tokens. Its feels heavier than the one of similar size. Its also different on the reverse and obverse... Any ideas guys??

http://images.trademe.co.nz/photoserver/92/230015492_full.jp
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http://images.trademe.co.nz/photoserver/60/230015360_full.jp
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Thanks

cashintheattic - 2012-08-25 15:08:00
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http://coinquest.com/cgi-bin/cq/coins?main_coin=5243

its call a spade guinea token,sorry i for got about that one,have a look at the link it tells you all about them

chefman1 - 2012-08-25 15:51:00
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Brilliant thanks chefman

cashintheattic - 2012-08-25 16:08:00
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cashintheattic wrote:

What are these??

http://images.trademe.co.nz/photoserver/41/230006741_full.jp
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http://images.trademe.co.nz/photoserver/31/230006831_full.jp
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and also this
http://images.trademe.co.nz/photoserver/74/230006974_full.jp
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http://images.trademe.co.nz/photoserver/77/230007077_full.jp
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I like these gaming tokens.
Are you going to list the Japanese one as well ?

lester36 - 2012-08-25 16:51:00
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i dont know how to list the Japanese one. I dont know what to list it as

cashintheattic - 2012-08-25 16:55:00
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Can anyone tell me if a 1967 NZ$0.50 (50 Cents) with the Queens head on both sides has any value? Cheers in advance.

carlnsue - 2012-08-25 17:38:00
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cashintheattic wrote:

i dont know how to list the Japanese one. I dont know what to list it as


Go into Antiques Coins Exonumia and list it as a Japanese token I like that one as well.

lester36 - 2012-08-25 17:42:00
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carlnsue wrote:

Can anyone tell me if a 1967 NZ$0.50 (50 Cents) with the Queens head on both sides has any value? Cheers in advance.

Sorry, I am not finding it. Probably worth asking for a photo of the edge. Look for a seam or join.

echoriath - 2012-08-25 17:49:00
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Have done some homework and it is called a brockage coin. Interestingly the detail on both sides is excellent, obviously had some minor circulation but the detail is quite good. It is not for sale as it is not mine but the owner wanted some clarification so am doing some homework for them.

Edited by carlnsue at 5:57 pm, Sat 25 Aug

carlnsue - 2012-08-25 17:54:00
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carlnsue wrote:

Have done some homework and it is called a brockage coin. Interestingly the detail on both sides is excellent, obviously had some minor circulation but the detail is quite good. It is not for sale as it is not mine but the owner wanted some clarification so am doing some homework for them.

HI carlnsue,[I WOULD SAY IT COULD BE A VERY RARE COIN] i would love to see a photo of it if you can please, price wise could fetch a high price, but it might only get what some one is only willing to paid for it,cheers peter

ps.price any-where between $200.00 - $1,000 i will say

Edited by chefman1 at 6:38 pm, Sat 25 Aug

chefman1 - 2012-08-25 18:31:00
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done

cashintheattic - 2012-08-25 19:07:00
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cashintheattic wrote:

done


Cheers

lester36 - 2012-08-25 19:11:00
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cashintheattic wrote:

done

done = cheers

chefman1 - 2012-08-25 19:13:00
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carlnsue wrote:

Have done some homework and it is called a brockage coin. Interestingly the detail on both sides is excellent, obviously had some minor circulation but the detail is quite good. It is not for sale as it is not mine but the owner wanted some clarification so am doing some homework for them.

If it is a brockage the head on one side will be reversed as it would have been imprinted by the head side of the stuck coin.

lester36 - 2012-08-25 19:14:00
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chefman1 wrote:

done = cheers


Ohhw Peter I went and done the first done now my done has been undone by your done Darn it,

lester36 - 2012-08-25 19:17:00
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lester36 wrote:

If it is a brockage the head on one side will be reversed as it would have been imprinted by the head side of the stuck coin.

Yes it is reversed

carlnsue - 2012-08-25 19:19:00
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carlnsue wrote:

Yes it is reversed


VERY desirable.Would love to see a photo

lester36 - 2012-08-25 19:25:00
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lester36 wrote:


Ohhw Peter I went and done the first done now my done has been undone by your done Darn it,

sorry..about that

chefman1 - 2012-08-25 19:41:00
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could someone help with this one please, its a crown 27g but the shields dont seem right? fake/copy? any thoughts appreciated. this is my first attempt at a photo so hope all goes well!

http://images.trademe.co.nz/photoserver/48/230046748_full.jp
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brucie69 - 2012-08-25 19:41:00
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Hi All ..... What is this coin changer item called that they used to use on the trains and bus? thanks in advance

link below

http://images.trademe.co.nz/photoserver/88/230120588_full.jp
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malcdeb - 2012-08-26 11:41:00
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malcdeb wrote:

Hi All ..... What is this coin changer item called that they used to use on the trains and bus? thanks in advance


Cant help you with name but taxi drivers use to use them too. I've got one lying round somewhere. On mine the bit the coins sat on is red.

Edited by karmae at 4:56 pm, Sun 26 Aug

karmae - 2012-08-26 16:56:00
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malcdeb wrote:

Hi All ..... What is this coin changer item called that they used to use on the trains and bus? thanks in advance

link below

http://images.trademe.co.nz/photoserver/88/230120588_full.jp
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It's just a "Coin Change Holder/Dispenser"

wasgonna - 2012-08-26 18:19:00
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brucie69 wrote:

could someone help with this one please, its a crown 27g but the shields dont seem right? fake/copy? any thoughts appreciated. this is my first attempt at a photo so hope all goes well!

http://images.trademe.co.nz/photoserver/48/230046748_full.jp
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Sorry, outside the ken of my knowledge.

echoriath - 2012-08-27 19:31:00
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phil682 - 2012-08-29 01:16:00
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phil682 - 2012-08-29 02:16:00
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If your intention is to sell them and time is on your side, your best bet is to take good photos and list, list, list! Take photos of both sides using the Macro setting, which is signified on cameras with a little flower icon and is designed for distances from 300-700 mm from the subject. Some cameras also have a digital macro function designed for 50-200 mm from the subject.

Experiment until you can take pix reasonably well, then start listing by country the coins you think are worth the LEAST. This allows you to get a feel for the process and potential values. You could list all coins of a similar type (all crowns), or do more of a lucky dip (a crown, a few florins and several threepence).

Bear in mind that anything NZ that looks silver and is from 1946 or earlier probably DOES contain some silver. This gives it a bullion value aside from any potential collectible value. Likewise, US ten, 25 and 50 cent pieces from 1964 and earlier (and a few later half dollars and all silver dollars from the 30s and earlier) contain 90% silver. Similarly, about 1921 UK silver (threepences, florins, shillings, crowns, etc.) went from 92.5% silver to 50% silver, then to no silver about the time NZ did.

Hope that gives you a starting point. There are tips on taking photos on previous pages that will hopefully return before too long. If you struggle with photos, let us know and we can give some more advice on that or anything else.

echoriath - 2012-08-29 03:42:00
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phil682 - 2012-08-29 19:22:00
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lester36 wrote:


Ohhw Peter I went and done the first done now my done has been undone by your done Darn it,

at least you got that one ok....but i got the other tokens...yes

chefman1 - 2012-08-29 19:27:00
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chefman1 wrote:

at least you got that one ok....but i got the other tokens...yes


True True And You nearly had both.

lester36 - 2012-08-29 20:06:00
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Someone on TradeMe is offering a US 1881 Indian Head cent which he says is "Extremely rare". I queried this as there were 39 million minted. His explanation was that the IH cents were melted down to provide the metal for the new Lincoln cents (1909-). Seems a bit silly to me to melt one lot of coins to strike another lot. Anyone seen anthing about the IH cents being melted down? His coin is quite pleasing and the price is in line with US dealer's prices but it's his "Extremely rare" classification that I can't agree with. Cheers, taidhg

taidhg - 2012-08-29 20:14:00
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phil682 wrote:

Thank you Ecoriath very helpful, I will list! How does one determine a reserve though? Cheers.

Choosing a reserve is a product of thorough research on other sites, on here (search current and closed auctions, and note on the closed auctions what sold and what did not), intuition, more research and a bit of luck. What matters more is finding a willing buyer. Or better still? Finding two or three buyers willing to duke it out over an item.

Experience shows that if you are willing to set a $1 or $2 reserve, and have good pix the market will tell you what the current value is. Books on coins, prices lists on-line and similar things are often averages of recent sale prices at retail outlets.

We always return to the distinction between retail/replacement value versus the value in a private sale. Cars offer a great example. Take a car to a dealer, and you might be offered $4000. In a private sale, you might get $6000. The book value (aka insurance replacement value) may be $8000, which is what the dealer will put it on the lot for (or thereabouts). But their cars have to sit there for months sometimes, and they have to pay rent/a mortgage, taxes for the property, wages, etc., etc.

echoriath - 2012-08-29 20:20:00
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taidhg wrote:

Someone on TradeMe is offering a US 1881 Indian Head cent which he says is "Extremely rare". I queried this as there were 39 million minted. His explanation was that the IH cents were melted down to provide the metal for the new Lincoln cents (1909-). Seems a bit silly to me to melt one lot of coins to strike another lot. Anyone seen anthing about the IH cents being melted down? His coin is quite pleasing and the price is in line with US dealer's prices but it's his "Extremely rare" classification that I can't agree with. Cheers, taidhg

Yeah, I tire of battling with people over undeserved descriptions. I note that 22 of that seller's listings qualify as "Rare". At a certain point, the word has no meaning when used over and over. They would have had to melt a hell of a lot of those IHs to make them rare. Personally, I'd feel optimistic calling that one VF based on the photos.

I note the irony that of the two 1913 Type I Buffalos listed as "Rare" (Both Philly to go by the pix), the really lovely one went for US book (or thereabouts) in NZ dollars. The other one is nice enough, but neither deserves the title of "Rare" since these happened to be saved in LARGE numbers as they were the first year of a new and popular coin. From The Red Book*: "These were saved in large quantities, and today there are more Mint State coins of this year in existence than for any other issue of the next 15 years."

2012, p. 25

echoriath - 2012-08-29 20:40:00
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lester36 wrote:


True True And You nearly had both.

lol...i thought that you might like one auction out of it..untill next time

chefman1 - 2012-08-29 22:30:00
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Notes on packaging for people not experienced with selling & shipping coins:

Please do NOT apply tape to the coin(s). Adhesives = DEATH to coins. You can slip them in a bit of plastic, paper or cardboard, and then apply tape to the outside of that. Tape right around to prevent the coin coming lose in transit. If you use the packing slips that TradeMe allows you to print for buyers who are Address Verified, these can be folded in three and taped up at one end. Then place the coin in the plastic/paper/cardboard inside the tri-folded packing slip. Now tape up the other end.

If you folded the packing slip with the buyer's address on the outside, you can now copy that onto the envelope for shipping. Drop the packing slip in the envelope, slap on a stamp, and you're away laughing. The recipient will be especially grateful because their purchase has their address on it twice. Why does that matter? Because sometimes NZ Post equipment and/or handlers and/or the weather can be rough on paper.

Having the address twice, so to speak, means that if the outer skin is damaged, they can still figure out to whom it is going. Even better, if you are handwriting addresses, buy a ball point pen with permanent ink. They write nice and smoothly, and the ink is protected against inclement weather.

Edited by echoriath at 5:15 pm, Fri 31 Aug

echoriath - 2012-08-31 17:13:00
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You been spying on me echoriath. That's exactly how I do it. Excellent advice though.

wasgonna - 2012-08-31 17:31:00
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Hahaha, I can go you one better. I actually cut up cracker & cereal boxes to make cardboard envelopes, into which the coins are taped (in a protective plastic sleeve first), which is then folded, taped and addressed. This goes into the packing slip, and then into the outer envelope. So, in effect, the address is there THREE times!! Gives me peace of mind, and not a lost sold item yet!

I gather the double address system is advised by PCGS and similar when submitting coins for grading.

echoriath - 2012-09-01 17:56:00
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Now it is getting spooky. I too cut up the thin cardboard packets to make a sleeve the size of the envelope with the coins (in holder) taped inside.That way there is no movement either way inside the envelope.

wasgonna - 2012-09-01 19:26:00
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Hi guys, is there a thread for banknotes? I have some old military payment certs and a couple of viet namese notes and don't know anything about them. They are well used except one which is OK condition.

rose-murray - 2012-09-01 20:02:00
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Hi rose-murray. The coin club includes banknotes so if you can take some clear close up photos and include the link on this message board the experts here will be able to advise you on what you want to know.

Edited by wasgonna at 8:53 pm, Sat 1 Sep

wasgonna - 2012-09-01 20:51:00
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wasgonna wrote:

Now it is getting spooky. I too cut up the thin cardboard packets to make a sleeve the size of the envelope with the coins (in holder) taped inside.That way there is no movement either way inside the envelope.

Ok, but when doing the packaging I play songs by Tom Waits or Laurie Anderson at high volume and sing along in my best monotone voice. And you?

echoriath - 2012-09-01 22:04:00
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wasgonna wrote:

Hi rose-murray. The coin club includes banknotes so if you can take some clear close up photos and include the link on this message board the experts here will be able to advise you on what you want to know.


Thanks wasgonna. I will sort out some photos and post soon.

rose-murray - 2012-09-02 13:42:00
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rose-murray wrote:


Thanks wasgonna. I will sort out some photos and post soon.

Where are the notes from and roughly how old are they?

echoriath - 2012-09-02 13:44:00
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Thanks for the help :) As there are more small boxes with lots of 20s (wrapped and most named) Mainly NZ One Pennies and Half Pennies, but still slowly going through them, listing some as I go. I found an used album that I have since made my own foreign coin album as some are just neat looking and I like them (deceased estate from an ex-airforce man) I don't research all coins e..t...c.... so for all the serious coin collectors don't get too bad about me listing coins at all different amounts eg.. http://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/Listing.aspx?id=509925178 as it's probably worth 50c but liked it so it got $8 put on it, and well it's RARE, as I don't have many things from Panama in my house so it's RARE ~LOL~ well heck only knows how some people put huge values on things.
So if a collector sees something they like but the price is wrong, do the bartering thing of an old fashioned AUCTION :P

chefman1 wrote:

all coins from 1933-1946 have 50% silver content in them
error coins are >>>
1965 broken wing sixpence
1957 strapless sixpence
1946 flat/back florin
1965 broken/back shilling
1962 no horizon shilling
1942 one dot threepence
1956 strapless threepence
1955 two dots on shoulder threepence
1956 strapless penny
1950 high diamond half/crown
1935 threepence in good condition $220.00-$3500
1958 broken/back shilling
1942 broken/back shilling
or you could buy a coin & banknote catalogue on trademe for $17.95 if that helps you out,cheers peter

jaytala - 2012-09-02 14:28:00
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