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Welcome to the Coin Club. We are an assortment of newbies, amateurs and experts with questions and answers for newbies, amateurs and experts in coin collecting, also known as numismatics. Whether you are just getting started, have been collecting for years or have simply found some old coins about the place that you’d like to sell, this is the place to ask your questions.

No one has all the answers, and you may get five differing answers to the same question, yet each may be right in a manner of speaking, especially if opinions are involved. Opinions often vary. If you receive no answer to your query within 48 hours, please ask again

chrisr5 - 2013-03-28 21:19:00
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Newby !!!!

funho1 - 2013-03-28 21:19:00
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chrisr5 wrote:

***Half Sandy***

half/sandy ??? i though it was a full/sandy..please check chris..lol

chefman1 - 2013-03-28 22:07:00
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chrisr5 wrote:

If anyone's planning on buying a Sikh Token Coin they need to be quick because the price of these things is climbing fast!

Don't bid I want it to be there in 3 weeks so I can buy it without having to pay it off.

Anyone like TUI

lester36 - 2013-03-28 22:21:00
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funho1 wrote:

Newby !!!!

Welcome newby, ask questions, share your coins.

chrisr5 - 2013-03-28 23:11:00
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chefman1 wrote:

half/sandy ??? i though it was a full/sandy..please check chris..lol

sandy - thousand, half sandy - 500? But hey if I've invented new terminology I'm good with that.

chrisr5 - 2013-03-28 23:13:00
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lester36 wrote:

Don't bid I want it to be there in 3 weeks so I can buy it without having to pay it off.

Anyone like TUI

If Rebel58 gets enough funds the cartel may be able to invest in it if we can get the price down enough. Remember the cartel creed.

chrisr5 - 2013-03-28 23:16:00
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How do you suppose it came to be that people think the "back" of the coin has the head on it? A trivia question in the paper here once asked what's on the front of the NZ$1 coin. Everyone was debating whether it was a tuatara or a hei tiki. I said I thought it was the Queen, but everyone was saying, no, that's on the back. I asked, "Yes, but then why do we says 'heads or tails?' in a coin toss?" Of course, the answer was "The Queen".

echoriath - 2013-03-29 18:42:00
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Even if they were discussing the reverse they would still have been wrong with tuatara or hei-tiki.

ETA - Trivia quiz - what's on the reverse of the standard issue NZ$1 coin? Prize - Winner gets to ask the next coin based trivia question.

Rules -

1. You don't talk about the coin club.

Edited by chrisr5 at 8:37 pm, Fri 29 Mar

chrisr5 - 2013-03-29 20:35:00
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Hmmmm, what's on the back of the Kiwi dollar. Hmmmm. Hold on, I'll get back to you on that......

echoriath - 2013-03-30 00:03:00
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Next trivia question:

On Swiss coins, by what name is that nation known?

echoriath - 2013-03-30 00:06:00
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The Helvetic Confederation or confoederatio Helvetica in Latin.

Next trivia question -

Since 1983 Britain has issued pound coins with inscriptions on the edge. What is the inscription on the Welsh versions (the ones with dragons or leeks on the reverse), and what does it mean?

chrisr5 - 2013-03-30 09:05:00
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leeks = leek & potato soup...lol

chefman1 - 2013-03-30 12:44:00
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has any one any idea what this would be worth...1967 .coins in plastic..from 1c to a silver dollar
http://images.trademe.co.nz/photoserver/full/261277668.jpg

Edited by pussy01 at 8:51 pm, Sat 30 Mar

pussy01 - 2013-03-30 20:50:00
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pussy01 wrote:

has any one any idea what this would be worth...1967 .coins in plastic..from 1c to a silver dollar
http://images.trademe.co.nz/photoserver/full/261277668.jpg[/
quote]

1967 set of coins are all copper nickel no silver content in them value wise
between $6.00- $10.00 do you have the cover for it???

chefman1 - 2013-03-30 22:05:00
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chefman1 wrote:

1967 set of coins are all copper nickel no silver content in them value wise
between $6.00- $10.00 do you have the cover for it???


no i don't

pussy01 - 2013-03-31 04:58:00
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574640912
wow.....a big jump in price on this auction...lol

chefman1 - 2013-03-31 12:47:00
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chefman1 wrote:

574640912
wow.....a big jump in price on this auction...lol

I think it's because there's a Churchill crown in there.

chrisr5 - 2013-03-31 12:51:00
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chrisr5 wrote:

I think it's because there's a Churchill crown in there.

lol....i forgot about that

chefman1 - 2013-03-31 12:59:00
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chrisr5 wrote:

The Helvetic Confederation or confoederatio Helvetica in Latin.

Next trivia question -

Since 1983 Britain has issued pound coins with inscriptions on the edge. What is the inscription on the Welsh versions (the ones with dragons or leeks on the reverse), and what does it mean?

PLEIDIOL WYF I'M GWLAD - "I'm glad there's panedol"

Or maybe it's "True I am to My Country". The Irish version of the coin comes with the recipe for potato-leek soup.

New question: In modern parlance, to what do "two bits" refer in US coinage? What is the origin of the term?

echoriath - 2013-03-31 13:03:00
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chrisr5 wrote:

I think it's because there's a Churchill crown in there.

There are TWO Churchill Crowns in there!

Regardless, I think someone got a little overzealous with their zeroes. Bet the seller is going to be quick-smart back to TM asking for a partial refund of success fees.

Edited by echoriath at 1:12 pm, Sun 31 Mar

echoriath - 2013-03-31 13:05:00
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574640912 Maybe bidder meant to bid $300.50 but got the decimal point wrong .....

Edited by funho1 at 2:07 pm, Sun 31 Mar

funho1 - 2013-03-31 14:07:00
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funho1 wrote:

574640912 Maybe bidder meant to bid $300.50 but got the decimal point wrong .....

Yes, and probly meant to do it as auto-bid as well. Either way, the other bidder was like, "Yeah, ok, too rich for MY blood!"

echoriath - 2013-03-31 15:03:00
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echoriath wrote:

PLEIDIOL WYF I'M GWLAD - "I'm glad there's panedol"

Or maybe it's "True I am to My Country". The Irish version of the coin comes with the recipe for potato-leek soup.

New question: In modern parlance, to what do "two bits" refer in US coinage? What is the origin of the term?

2 bits refers to 25 cents. The term originates from the Spanish dollar which was 8 reales and was apparently occasionally chopped into 8 bits. So 2 bits was a quarter dollar.

Next question;- on the original issue Australian silver coins the coat of arms featured on the reverse. What were the animals supporting the shield?

chrisr5 - 2013-03-31 16:04:00
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oldecurb - 2013-03-31 16:38:00
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Next question;- on the original issue Australian silver coins the coat of arms featured on the reverse. What were the animals supporting the shield?
kangroo & emu...from the canberra mint if i remember

chefman1 - 2013-03-31 16:58:00
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oldecurb wrote:

What is your opinion of the grading on this coin 577710107. Seller is reputable dealer but I would have thought gVF not gEF. Any opinions?

v/fine+ i see it has two dia cracks on the kings rob

chefman1 - 2013-03-31 17:00:00
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chefman1 wrote:

Next question;- on the original issue Australian silver coins the coat of arms featured on the reverse. What were the animals supporting the shield?
kangroo & emu...from the canberra mint if i remember

So what's your trivia question?

(It's our new covert way on catching up with the stamp club posts with non of the associated risks of discussing suspect auctions.)

chrisr5 - 2013-03-31 20:06:00
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trivia question

name four or five main 5 cent error coins from 1967-2003 with out using the cat/book ok... you have five minutes...lol

chefman1 - 2013-03-31 20:51:00
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chefman1 wrote:

trivia question

name four or five main 5 cent error coins from 1967-2003 with out using the cat/book ok... you have five minutes...lol

1967 no tail
1967 no horizon
1999 wart nose
1999 dripping 5/various extreme die rotations, etc., etc.

translateltd - 2013-03-31 21:31:00
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Forgot "my" question: name a living US President (at the time the coin was issued) who appeared on a US coin. Reference books/internet use OK :-)

translateltd - 2013-03-31 21:33:00
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... and another who appeared during his lifetime on a coin issued in the name of the USA but intended for use somewhere else.

translateltd - 2013-03-31 21:35:00
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oldecurb wrote:

What is your opinion of the grading on this coin 577710107. Seller is reputable dealer but I would have thought gVF not gEF. Any opinions?

Bit too much wear on the upper reaches of the King's beard and crown band for my liking.

translateltd - 2013-03-31 21:38:00
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echoriath wrote:


PLEIDIOL WYF I'M GWLAD - "I'm glad there's panedol"

Love it!

translateltd - 2013-03-31 21:47:00
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chefman1 wrote:

574640912
wow.....a big jump in price on this auction...lol

A useful reminder to check your bids before submitting them!

translateltd - 2013-03-31 21:49:00
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Interesting auction closed for Nine Silver Coins (one was nickel but won't quibble too much!)

Anon Seller wrote:


Hi, It ranges from 50% to Sterling Silver which is at least 92.5 Silver. I haven't weighed this group which are very collectible but the melt down value alone would be at least $70

I did a quick total, and as far as I could see the Turkish coin was a 5 Kurush so the melt weight of the silver was about 0.91Troy Oz. So did I miss the silver price rocketing overnight or is a guesstimate allowed to be 2x over?

ETA or did I fail badly in my maths?

Edited by chrisr5 at 10:07 pm, Sun 31 Mar

chrisr5 - 2013-03-31 22:06:00
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translateltd wrote:

Forgot "my" question: name a living US President (at the time the coin was issued) who appeared on a US coin. Reference books/internet use OK :-)

Had to search but - President Calvin Coolidge on a 1926 commemorative 1/2 dolar.

translateltd wrote:

... and another who appeared during his lifetime on a coin issued in the name of the USA but intended for use somewhere else.

I knew this was the Phillipines for some reason, but again had to look for 1936 commemorative coins with President Franklin D. Roosevelt.

New Question - Which 2 US coins are unique in having an incuse design instead of relief?

chrisr5 - 2013-03-31 22:29:00
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chrisr5 wrote:


New Question - Which 2 US coins are unique in having an incuse design instead of relief?

"Indian Head" $5 and $10, from memory?

translateltd - 2013-04-01 08:00:00
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Hi guys, newbie here, have inherited a bag full of probably hundreds of coins of my late fathers mostly british and nz but several other countries too, a few from 1700s. Where would i even start trying to work out whats of any value?
Any help or pointers much appreciated
thanks, clive

evilc81 - 2013-04-01 08:43:00
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evilc81 wrote:

Hi guys, newbie here, have inherited a bag full of probably hundreds of coins of my late fathers mostly british and nz but several other countries too, a few from 1700s. Where would i even start trying to work out whats of any value?
Any help or pointers much appreciated
thanks, clive

Hi Clive, and welcome. When it comes to "value", it depends on what you want to do. Do you want to sell them for top dollar, or do you want to keep them to pass on in your family? Value for selling versus value for insuring can mean rather different numbers.

Either way, it's best to avoid the temptation to clean them. The only exception I would make is if some are gunked up with foreign matter. Then a soak in hot water to remove extra stuff can be good, but it's important to NOT rub or abrade them.

If you post some photos on here, we can give more specific ideas of what you might have. I'd suggest finding a representative sample of the older coins from a range of countries and posting a few pix in here for a start. Don't just look for coins that "appear" old based on wear. The best coins are generally the ones that are old but don't look worn.

echoriath - 2013-04-01 09:34:00
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chrisr5 wrote:

Interesting auction closed for Nine Silver Coins (one was nickel but won't quibble too much!)

I did a quick total, and as far as I could see the Turkish coin was a 5 Kurush so the melt weight of the silver was about 0.91Troy Oz. So did I miss the silver price rocketing overnight or is a guesstimate allowed to be 2x over?

ETA or did I fail badly in my maths?

The heart wants what it wants.

echoriath - 2013-04-01 10:39:00
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I'll make a start by trying to catalogue what I have, may take some time haha theres coin bag after coin bag full (around half an old cloth bank 250pound of 50pence coin bag full in total not including the boxed proofs). Most interesting but probably not valuable so far is something that looks like a gold 1797 guinea, but the tails side is not correct and the inscription reads "In memory of the good old days" believe it is an old token of some kind

evilc81 - 2013-04-01 11:02:00
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Additional note to clive:

Sometimes coins that are not so old can have amazing values. A good example is the US 1916 Standing Liberty Quarter: As a rough estimate of this coin's value you can assume this coin in poor condition will be valued at somewhere around U$2808, while one in "perfect" condition can bring U$15689*. In the unlikely even you have one of these and wish to sell it, a numismatic auction house/site might be a better venue than TM.

*http://www.cointrackers.com/c-
oins/508/1916-standing-liberty-
-quarter/

Sorry, looks like you have to cut, paste and edit the above address to make it work.

Edited by echoriath at 11:11 am, Mon 1 Apr

echoriath - 2013-04-01 11:05:00
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Yes, the "guinea" sounds like a gambling token or similar and is likely made of brass. Still, I had one like that sell for just over $30 a year or two ago.

Here's a very helpgul page for identifying, grading and valuing UK coins:
http://www.coins-of-the-uk.co.uk/

And here's a good guide for judging the condition of US coins:
http://www.pcgs.com/Photograde/

This is handy for pretty much anything:
http://www.ngccoin.com/poplookup/World-Coin-Price-Guide.aspx

The PCGS site also has a valuation section, but it's beneficial to see what the difference is between a coin in "Good" condition versus "Uncirculated". You'll find that "Good" is a polite way of saying "Almost Sucks".

echoriath - 2013-04-01 11:10:00
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echoriath wrote:

The heart wants what it wants.

Indeed, and I was most upset at missing a $1 FPO on nine silver coins this morning! ***Waves to the lurker***

echoriath wrote:

You'll find that "Good" is a polite way of saying "Almost Sucks".

Has my vote for coin club post of the month!

chrisr5 - 2013-04-01 12:05:00
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translateltd wrote:

"Indian Head" $5 and $10, from memory?

Nearly right, just a little lower.

chrisr5 - 2013-04-01 12:07:00
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chrisr5 wrote:

Indeed, and I was most upset at missing a $1 FPO on nine silver coins this morning!

Haha, I suppose it's worth watchlisting the odd auction of his in hopes of getting a silly FPO if I could accept it before he retracts it, though I could see that ending in tears. Sorry, had not bothered to look at the listing until a little while ago, and I've still not done the maths, though I know whose maths I trust. I guess we just have to consider the source, and rely on the old caveat emptor. Of course, there is also the CW button at the bottom to notify TM of specious claims, in which case caveat venditor*.

*Sorry if that's wrong, but Latin's not my strong suit.

echoriath - 2013-04-01 14:49:00
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Answer = Quarter Eagle (1908-1929) and Half Eagle (1908-1929) had incuse designs. Mind you, the edges of the new dollar coins (Native American and Presidential) are incused as well.

New question: What is the year of the first official coinage of the Kingdom of Hawaii?

echoriath - 2013-04-01 15:05:00
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Upto about 130 coins so far. Most interesting so far just found, what at first appears to be a coin but a bit of research reveals it is actually a Defence Force medal from the Maori Land Wars 1840s and 1860s. Unfortunately it has no inscription so its original owner is unknown or it was one not issued or not engraved. Wonder what this is worth..it shows signs of being well used. At first thought it may be a replica, but inspecing the rim shows a vague hint of 'solder' type material where the hanger would've originally been connected

evilc81 - 2013-04-01 15:47:00
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Hmmmm, sounds like the medal is a bit munted, clive, but as with the US 1916 Standing Liberty Quarter, sometimes rarity trumps condition. A photo would not go astray. I note there is also a militaria thread around here somewhere. Keep an eye out for the hanger. Could be somewhere close at hand. The more bits, the merrier.

Edited by echoriath at 4:07 pm, Mon 1 Apr

echoriath - 2013-04-01 16:06:00
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