Plenty of speculation in this post, mrcat1 has a point, and also christen seems to think you can't build three stories for some reason, anyway as you said above, stay calm and find out your rights or wrongs, things happen, everyone loves to comment and don't know the facts, just like me, these new council zones in Auckland are going to wake up a few people. Some will be upset. Life is short, have fun.

msigg - 2020-11-26 21:27:00

christin wrote:

I’m not going to go softly softly, but I’m not going to go out guns blazing until I ascertain what’s what.

I have unfortunately been able to do that so far due to work commitments and prepaid course and exam etc which I was committed to. I am going to discuss properly with neighbour this weekend snd work out a plan. Most likely Involving lawyers / council etc.

I have a day off work next week already so will put that to good use at the time. I couldn’t get more time off this week,

Get someone to gather the information NOW, whether by paying your solicitor or someone else, so you have it before the weekend. If you don't do this then the talk with the neighbour will just involve planning to get stuff that could have been obtained earlier in the week.

There was an offer earlier in the thread to get some of this info for you......perhaps if you do not want to give your address you could give the address of the property in front of you where the development is taking place, or even the rates ref of that property which is obtainable off the council's site. Or by putting up a 50c auction with your address....something to get a hurry on.

shanreagh - 2020-11-26 21:35:00

I must be missing something .. they either have legal access or they don't ? .. hardly a mystery ..

pf - 2020-11-27 13:13:00

pf wrote:

I must be missing something .. they either have legal access or they don't ? .. hardly a mystery ..

And that is the issue. Unless it one of rare occasions where it can be disputed it really shouldn't be a problem.

johnston - 2020-11-27 13:18:00

Do you have an answer yet? Legal access or not?

articferrit - 2020-12-02 07:24:00

articferrit wrote:

Do you have an answer yet? Legal access or not?

I'd like to know too!

hazelnut2 - 2020-12-02 08:26:00

hazelnut2 wrote:

I'd like to know too!

Me too. As above, in 99.99% of cases it will be a simple yes or no.

johnston - 2020-12-02 10:20:00

kiwicarol wrote:

quite agree

Yes I Agree too

ferrit47 - 2020-12-02 11:17:00

Yes they have legal access, no idea why but they do.

christin - 2020-12-02 22:47:00

christin wrote:

Yes they have legal access, no idea why but they do.

Then they have shares to pay for upkeep?

smallwoods - 2020-12-02 22:58:00

christin wrote:

Yes they have legal access, no idea why but they do.

I am surprised you did not ask when the lawyer said they did.

johnston - 2020-12-03 06:42:00

There ya go, all sorted, 109 post to get the answer, good on ya christin for getting back to the board, everyone ready to jump up and down at a developer with out reason, Good to know who owns what.

msigg - 2020-12-03 07:06:00

johnston wrote:

I am surprised you did not ask when the lawyer said they did.

It was my neighbour who found out, I’ve had other stuff going on which not going to go into here but she said there was no reason given just that it was there on council records, it’s from way back didn’t list why they got it,

Edited by christin at 7:14 am, Thu 3 Dec

christin - 2020-12-03 07:09:00

msigg wrote:

There ya go, all sorted, 109 post to get the answer, good on ya christin for getting back to the board, everyone ready to jump up and down at a developer with out reason, Good to know who owns what.

I always said we would find out but had commitments first I couldn’t get out of in the middle of the working day, Found out Friday but other stuff going on this week keeping me outta here.

christin - 2020-12-03 07:13:00

So presumably everyone in the apartment block will be using the driveway as their normal access after build is complete.

pauldw - 2020-12-03 07:23:00

christin wrote:

It was my neighbour who found out, I’ve had other stuff going on which not going to go into here but she said there was no reason given just that it was there on council records, it’s from way back didn’t list why they got it,

All sounds very fishy to me. I'd certainly be investigating what sort of access this is and trying to understand the provenance. Also what are they doing next door? Are there building consents lodged?

sparkychap - 2020-12-03 07:46:00

pauldw wrote:

So presumably everyone in the apartment block will be using the driveway as their normal access after build is complete.

Not necessarily. There’s a limit of how many cars can use a dingle driveway and he has said there will be a driveway and parking area on his section which will more than cope with it. Same as current house thrrr has its own driveway snd don’t use ours,

christin - 2020-12-03 08:00:00

sparkychap wrote:

All sounds very fishy to me. I'd certainly be investigating what sort of access this is and trying to understand the provenance. Also what are they doing next door? Are there building consents lodged?

Might sound fishy but it is what it is. We are going to look into changing it if we can as no reason to have part of our driveway but not sure how to find out the provenance considering it was done 60 years ago and no5ing o the records,

Three storey units, details coming this week, No consents lodged as of yet was doing site testing last week, It’s a terrible site, it was sold two years prior to what we think was a developer snd he sold it again, realestate agent said a lot weren’t interested as it has a massive dip in it and not flat but who knows. Walking on it felt like it was landfill.

Didn’t sell for a huge amount so imagine it wasn’t frantic interest in it, a section 941 Sqm in central Auckland with a rented house and development potential gets more than $850k

christin - 2020-12-03 08:10:00

For clarity - is this all notified on the Certificate of Titles for theirs and your land?

sparkychap - 2020-12-03 08:13:00

sparkychap wrote:

For clarity - is this all notified on the Certificate of Titles for theirs and your land?

Good question!

hazelnut2 - 2020-12-03 08:18:00

christin wrote:

Might sound fishy but it is what it is. We are going to look into changing it if we can as no reason to have part of our driveway but not sure how to find out the provenance considering it was done 60 years ago and no5ing o the records,

Three storey units, details coming this week, No consents lodged as of yet was doing site testing last week, It’s a terrible site, it was sold two years prior to what we think was a developer snd he sold it again, realestate agent said a lot weren’t interested as it has a massive dip in it and not flat but who knows. Walking on it felt like it was landfill.

Didn’t sell for a huge amount so imagine it wasn’t frantic interest in it, a section 941 Sqm in central Auckland with a rented house and development potential gets more than $850k

There should be historical paper originals at the council of all documents pertaining to your parcel of land.

Edited by hazelnut2 at 8:20 am, Thu 3 Dec

hazelnut2 - 2020-12-03 08:20:00

hazelnut2 wrote:

There should be historical paper originals at the council of all documents pertaining to your parcel of land.

Which we have going back to 1890ish but nothing listed as to why it was done

christin - 2020-12-03 09:15:00

christin wrote:

Which we have going back to 1890ish but nothing listed as to why it was done

Is it noted on your title?

sparkychap - 2020-12-03 09:50:00

christin wrote:

Which we have going back to 1890ish but nothing listed as to why it was done

But what does your Record of Title say? Your lawyer could have sorted this in minutes.

johnston - 2020-12-03 10:06:00

johnston wrote:

But what does your Record of Title say? Your lawyer could have sorted this in minutes.

You can lead a ???? to ????...

lovelurking - 2020-12-03 10:29:00

johnston wrote:

But what does your Record of Title say? Your lawyer could have sorted this in minutes.

I've figured it out, J, you have mail.

sparkychap - 2020-12-03 10:32:00

sparkychap wrote:

I've figured it out, J, you have mail.

Figured what out?

christin - 2020-12-03 10:54:00

christin wrote:

Figured what out?

Ask your lawyer.

johnston - 2020-12-03 10:57:00

christin wrote:

Figured what out?

Why the neighbour has legal access. As above, ask your lawyer.

sparkychap - 2020-12-03 10:59:00

lovelurking wrote:

You can lead a ???? to ????...

We wanted to find out if he had access. We have. He does.

More info coming. I have other Important personal things going on at the moment so that was what I needed to find out and I have.

christin - 2020-12-03 11:00:00

sparkychap wrote:

Why the neighbour has legal access. As above, ask your lawyer.

So why does the neighbour have legal access?

christin - 2020-12-03 11:01:00

christin wrote:

So why does the neighbour have legal access?

Don't you know?

sparkychap - 2020-12-03 11:11:00

christin wrote:

We wanted to find out if he had access. We have. He does.

More info coming. I have other Important personal things going on at the moment so that was what I needed to find out and I have.

You don't know what you need to know. Ask your lawyer.

johnston - 2020-12-03 11:20:00

sparkychap wrote:

Don't you know?

You said you’d figured it out......wanted to know why you thought they had access,

christin - 2020-12-03 11:26:00

christin wrote:

You said you’d figured it out......wanted to know why you thought they had access,

There are "boundaries" what I should say on here and sometimes those "boundaries" might not be where people think they are....

sparkychap - 2020-12-03 11:47:00

sparkychap wrote:

There are "boundaries" what I should say on here and sometimes those "boundaries" might not be where people think they are....

Go on, tell us. Many confused people here.

masturbidder - 2020-12-03 12:02:00

???? Hmmn...Are you Pushing the Boundaries #135 sparkychap ?

lovelurking - 2020-12-03 12:06:00

The boundaries of their land probably include the OP's driveway.

lyl_guy - 2020-12-03 12:15:00

masturbidder wrote:

Go on, tell us. Many confused people here.

None more so that the op. Her lawyer is the best person to explain matters.

johnston - 2020-12-03 12:38:00

lyl_guy wrote:

The boundaries of their land probably include the OP's driveway.

Bingo, we have a winner. Pick any prize off the top shelf.

smallwoods - 2020-12-03 12:46:00

smallwoods wrote:

Bingo, we have a winner. Pick any prize off the top shelf.

Choccy fish please. I'm a cheap winner.

lyl_guy - 2020-12-03 12:48:00

lyl_guy wrote:

Choccy fish please. I'm a cheap winner.

One chocolate starfish on its way.

sparkychap - 2020-12-03 13:03:00

lovelurking wrote:

???? Hmmn...Are you Pushing the Boundaries #135 sparkychap ?

if you have the "drive" to find out the answer, the boundaries are clear.

sparkychap - 2020-12-03 13:04:00

sparkychap wrote:

One chocolate starfish on its way.

.

lyl_guy - 2020-12-03 13:17:00

johnston wrote:

You don't know what you need to know. Ask your lawyer.

why don’t you be kind and just tell her, save her the hassle, instead of all the ‘secret squirrel’ stuff between you and sparky?

It’s not cryptic crossword day, just cut to the chase for goodness sake. if you can help a fellow kiwi out then why not do so?

lakeview3 - 2020-12-03 14:14:00

lakeview3 wrote:

why don’t you be kind and just tell her, save her the hassle, instead of all the ‘secret squirrel’ stuff between you and sparky?

It’s not cryptic crossword day, just cut to the chase for goodness sake. if you can help a fellow kiwi out then why not do so?

Exactly why I haven’t replied. I may not know everything about council plans etc but I’m not the idiot they’re making me out to be.

Everyone has different areas of expertise.

christin - 2020-12-03 14:25:00

lakeview3 wrote:

why don’t you be kind and just tell her, save her the hassle, instead of all the ‘secret squirrel’ stuff between you and sparky?

It’s not cryptic crossword day, just cut to the chase for goodness sake. if you can help a fellow kiwi out then why not do so?

How was the holiday?

sparkychap - 2020-12-03 14:29:00

christin wrote:

Exactly why I haven’t replied. I may not know everything about council plans etc but I’m not the idiot they’re making me out to be.

Everyone has different areas of expertise.

yes sorry to read about all your troubles. If other posters are so clever and knowledgeable you would think they would want to help wouldn’t you? They ask all the questions and then when they claim to know the answer come up short of any helpful information.

lakeview3 - 2020-12-03 14:39:00

christin wrote:

He seemed to think driveway his too so seemed odd.

Isn’t that something lawyers should point out when you buy?

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sparkychap - 2020-12-03 14:42:00

lakeview3 wrote:

yes sorry to read about all your troubles. If other posters are so clever and knowledgeable you would think they would want to help wouldn’t you? They ask all the questions and then when they claim to know the answer come up short of any helpful information.

Message me though my listing . Want to ask something.

christin - 2020-12-03 14:56:00