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hello cita,
type2 victoria 1862 sydney half/sovereign = mintage 210,000 very/good = $240.00 fine = $500.00 $1,500.00 = v/fine,have you got a photo for me to have alook at its condition,cheers peter

Edited by chefman1 at 9:28 pm, Thu 21 Feb

chefman1 - 2013-02-21 21:25:00
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chefman1 - 2013-02-21 21:26:00
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cashintheattic wrote:

Hey guys does anyone have any information on the 1862 Sydney Mint 1/2 Sovereign?


210,000 minted VG $240 to gem $27,000 My book 2000.

lester36 - 2013-02-21 21:26:00
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Hey guys... I have it listed now if you want to have a look. Cheers

cashintheattic - 2013-02-21 21:38:00
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"While mint reports state that no half sovereigns were struck in 1862, we know for certain that half sovereigns bearing that date were struck. Mint reports state that 558,500 half sovereigns were struck in 1863. It would appear as though this mintage figure included half sovereigns struck bearing the date of 1862. Of the two dates, the 1863 is slightly scarcer though both dates would have less than 1,000 examples surviving today."

hi cita,where did you get this from???? scarce dates are 1864-1865 mintage for 1863 = 348,000 coins

chefman1 - 2013-02-21 21:46:00
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Hi Peter I got it from this website

http://www.bluesheet.com.au/Australia/Gold/Half_Sovereign/Sy
dney_Mint/Type_II/1862_(MS)

cashintheattic - 2013-02-21 21:48:00
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does that not seem right?

cashintheattic - 2013-02-21 22:17:00
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hi cita, it does seen right,sorry about the wait...i was having a look at this
1861 19 186000 367500 Includes 190000 struck in 1863
1862 8 210000 215000 Struck in 1863
1863 8 348000 150000 Struck in June 1863
hope that helps you out,cheers peter

chefman1 - 2013-02-21 23:10:00
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Just found this thread (after making a thread in collectors)
would any of you know how much in nzd a 1966 New Hebrides 100franc silver coin would be?
Also, is it better to buy a coin in 'original' condition or one that has been polished?

jesse83 - 2013-02-22 22:39:00
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jesse83 wrote:

Just found this thread (after making a thread in collectors)
would any of you know how much in nzd a 1966 New Hebrides 100franc silver coin would be?
Also, is it better to buy a coin in 'original' condition or one that has been polished?

Hello and welcome!

I found this info on your coin:

http://www.ngccoin.com/poplookup/WorldCoinPrices.aspx?catego
ry=50818&worldcoinid=137373&FromSearch=true

Scroll down to see that the melt value is slightly less than the value of the coin in Mint State. This is a technical term that means it looks like the day it was made. If there's any wear to speak of, it will probably have a value around it's weight in silver.

In case that does not work, this is quite the main search point on the site:

http://www.ngccoin.com/poplookup/World-Coin-Price-Guide.aspx

As for cleaning coins, it's a topic of sometimes contentious debate among collectors. Your best bet is to let the winner of any auctions make the call on cleaning.

When selling,good photos are your best friend.

Edited by echoriath at 11:53 pm, Fri 22 Feb

echoriath - 2013-02-22 23:50:00
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Hello echoraith, and thank you.
I followed those links, only found Melt value which was $19.41 (don't know what sort of dollars it's in).
Then followed link to ebay, some listed there at around $70 to $80 USD.
Bullion value is $23.00 NZD.
Thank you very much for your help and good advice.

jesse83 - 2013-02-23 00:32:00
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On this link:

http://www.ngccoin.com/poplookup/WorldCoinPrices.aspx?catego
ry=50818&worldcoinid=137373&FromSearch=true

You have to scroll down a bit to see a list of potential values. If you use ebay, it's worth watching some through to close to see if they realise their list price. I had a quick squiz at ebay and saw several of them slabbed AND in Mint State. The slabbing elevates them from items of a subjective condition to items in a professionally graded condition with the grading company's name, etc. In most cases I was seeing MS63 and 64.

If unfamiliar with this grading system, it is a 70 point scale with 1 being barely identifiable to 70 meaning unblemished perfect. Sometimes a coin with a rating of 20 (VF) or even 60 (MS) has a value well under U$100, but once you get above MS60 the value can spike significantly.

It's not the best example both because of its age and the jump in values starts before MS63, but the 2012 Red Book (Yeoman) lists a 1901 (Philadelphia) Morgan Dollar in VF20 at $50. The melt value is about U$25. At AU50 (Almost Uncirculated) the value spikes to U$450. The value at MS60 is U$2300. At MS63 it is U$17,500. MS64 is U$55,000 and MS65 is U$325,000. That's not a typo. The listed value is almost a third of a million dollars.

It's safe to assume that MS61 and MS62 would split the difference between $2300 and $17,500. These should also be regarded as insurance replacement/retail values rather than what might be realised on an auction website.

There were almost seven million of the 1901 Dollars made, but finding one in perfect condition is a lot different to finding one that looks reasonably good, which in my mind includes coins in AU50 condition.

Edited by echoriath at 4:02 pm, Sat 23 Feb

echoriath - 2013-02-23 16:01:00
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echoriath, thank you for such interesting information.
So, how, where, and who can grade/value coins in or around Tauranga?
(I'm assuming you would need to do that before auctioning?)

jesse83 - 2013-02-23 20:51:00
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What would cause staining like this on coins, this trader has a lot of coins with this type of stain, I thought it might be smoke damage...he didn't like my question!
http://www.trademe.co.nz/antiques-collectables/coins/asia/ph
otos/a-563984017/p-255010343.htm

"Obviously these coins have never been in a fire. No, it's OK; but I do recommend nosey bottom feeders content themselves reading feedback from my actual buyers rather than exposing themselves to all the anxieties of a ONE DOLLAR bid"
Didn't answer the question but...any ideas would be appreciated...cheers

iamriff - 2013-02-23 22:05:00
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post 1364*
hi ian,looks like water damage, then the rust has set in,but i could be wrong.

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donaldo - 2013-02-24 11:26:00
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jesse83 wrote:

echoriath, thank you for such interesting information.
So, how, where, and who can grade/value coins in or around Tauranga?
(I'm assuming you would need to do that before auctioning?)

If your plan is to sell it on here, your best bet is to take very clear, close-up pix where the coin fills the entire available space. Crop the photos if need be. Look at some of the listings of the contributors in here to see what I mean. Provide photos of both sides of the coin. Give some background info, the silver content and melt value and see what happens.

Sometimes the only "clear" picture people can get is from a metre away from the coin, but using the "macro" setting (indicated by a flower on most cameras) or even the "digital macro" if available, especially with a tripod in indirect natural light (near a window but NOT with the sun beating down on the coin) will generally produce the best results.

If you feel really daring (and want to draw the most attention), take a punt with a $1 reserve. Be aware that most of the bidding on a $1 reserve auction happens in the last hour, and sometimes in the last few minutes.

echoriath - 2013-02-24 13:12:00
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@ 1364: Being silver, I'd say they were left in a ferrous container that got wet. The rust may or may not be permanent. I had a recent case with a cupro-nickel coin that looked similar. Hot water shifted whatever was on it.

echoriath - 2013-02-24 13:15:00
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hi guys - I have 1954 & 1955 strapless threepence, what would they be worth please?

(Ive searched current & expired listings but didnt come up with anything)

Edited by bayloft at 7:24 pm, Sun 24 Feb

bayloft - 2013-02-24 19:20:00
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bayloft wrote:

hi guys - I have 1954 & 1955 strapless threepence, what would they be worth please?

(Ive searched current & expired listings but didnt come up with anything)


Hi bayloft...1954 & 1955 ave/cir condition = about $1.00 each..e/fine condition about $10.00 each,do you have a photo so i can have a look at the condition of the coins?? have a look at this auction [564968163] its a higher grade threepence,cheers peter

Edited by chefman1 at 7:45 pm, Sun 24 Feb

chefman1 - 2013-02-24 19:41:00
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hi bayloft here you go >>>
http://www.trademe.co.nz/antiques-collectables/coins/new-zea
land-predecimal/threepences

chefman1 - 2013-02-24 20:02:00
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thanks for your help chefman, mine aren't in any special condition so will just hang on to them with the others, which dont seem to be anything special either lol

bayloft - 2013-02-24 20:10:00
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bayloft wrote:

thanks for your help chefman, mine aren't in any special condition so will just hang on to them with the others, which dont seem to be anything special either lol

i forgot to tell you between 1933-1946 are 50% silver content in them
sorry about that,cheers peter

chefman1 - 2013-02-24 20:20:00
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Donaldo, ok, thank you.

jesse83 - 2013-02-24 22:07:00
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echoriath,
Have macro, tripod, and a good spot for taking photos, so that's the next step.
Thank you for your help and good advice.

jesse83 - 2013-02-24 22:14:00
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jesse83 wrote:

echoriath,
Have macro, tripod, and a good spot for taking photos, so that's the next step.
Thank you for your help and good advice.

Cool, no worries. And if you want to pop a photo in here, you might get a few opinions as to condition, but ultimately the market will determine the value.

echoriath - 2013-02-24 22:56:00
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tim,need help please on this auction number [566410754] can you please let me know the dates on the usa notes for me..thankyou peter

chefman1 - 2013-02-25 20:11:00
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I'll have a look at those notes, peter, but I wanted to revise my thoughts on that Buffalo. It's 1919. Oddly, it came across more clearly on a little tablet I was using. Looking at it on a larger computer screen now, I feel even more certain that it's a 1919, not a 1916.

echoriath - 2013-02-25 23:03:00
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chefman1 wrote:

tim,need help please on this auction number [566410754] can you please let me know the dates on the usa notes for me..thankyou peter

The years on US notes are just above the letter "R" in "DOLLAR" on the obverse, but those pix are a bit too fuzzy for me to read the dates. The treasury secretaries will shed some light on them. The top one appears to be signed by Donald Regan, US Secretary of the Treasury 22nd January 1981-1st February 1984. The date kind of sort of maybe looks like 1981.

The second one is signed by George Shultz, US Secretary of the Treasury 12th June 1972-8th May 1974. Shultz would later serve as Secretary of State under Bush I.

(Totally unrelated note: Somewhere I have photos of Mr. Shultz that I took while working as a court reporter in Congress many moons ago. He was there testifying, and I tend to carry a camera with me most places I go.)

The third note is hard to read, but it looks like the treasury secretary signature ends in a "y", which suggests it would be either David Kennedy (1969-1971) or John Connally (1971-1972). This is the same Connally who was riding with John F. Kennedy on a fateful day in Dallas in 1963. Again, pic is a bit too fuzzy to be certain.

These sites are helpful for narrowing down the dates:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Secretary_of_the_
Treasury

http://www.treasury.gov/about/history/Pages/edu_history_trea
surers_index.aspx

But a magnifying glass might be more help.

Edited by echoriath at 11:53 pm, Mon 25 Feb

echoriath - 2013-02-25 23:42:00
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Hi Tim, better photo for you to see,cheers peter
http://images.trademe.co.nz/photoserver/full/256292000.jpg

chefman1 - 2013-02-25 23:59:00
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chefman1 wrote:

Hi Tim, better photo for you to see,cheers peter
http://images.trademe.co.nz/photoserver/full/256292000.jpg[/
quote]

Nah, sorry, no help.

echoriath - 2013-02-28 21:06:00
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I have a number of NZ florins and shillings Edward VI late 40's/early 50's, couple of Edward VI King Emperor early 40's, sixpences and shillings. mid/50s/early 60s. I will be auctioning them for charity but don't know how much they are worth, should I clean them before listing (they are all used), should I list them singley or in groups e.g. florins dating from 48 to 52? Any advice would be appreciated... oh and also do I need to photograph both sides?

Edited by vat at 4:52 pm, Fri 1 Mar

vat - 2013-03-01 16:43:00
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should I clean them before listing = no please do not clean them
should I list them singley or in groups = in groups would help
oh and also do I need to photograph both sides? = up to you on that one but most traders will ask you to ok,cheers peter

also nz half/crowns-florins-shillings--
sixpences-threepences between 1933-1946 contain 50% silver content in them just letting you know ok,cheers peter

chefman1 - 2013-03-01 17:26:00
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chefman1 wrote:


also nz half/crowns-florins-shillings--
sixpences-threepences between 1933-1946 contain 50% silver content in them just letting you know ok,cheers peter

Thanks so much for your advice... not even a wash in soapy water? re above, what would you suggest as a reserve for these early 40s florins and shillings?

Edited by vat at 8:18 pm, Fri 1 Mar

vat - 2013-03-01 20:16:00
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not even a wash in soapy water = no sorry, do not clean them leave them as-is.

what would you suggest as a reserve for these early 40s florins and shillings? = how many do you have in florins & shillings?

chefman1 - 2013-03-01 20:38:00
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I have been selling these Vat with a $1 reserve and they sell quite well, they are only worth what people want to pay for them :-)

Thanks so much for your advice... not even a wash in soapy water? re above, what would you suggest as a reserve for these early 40s florins and shillings?[/quote]

Sorry I did something wrong with the quote thingo, still learning, I sell the florins in lots of 6 and the shillings etc a couple more:-)

Edited by bizarre67 at 8:49 pm, Fri 1 Mar

bizarre67 - 2013-03-01 20:47:00
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chefman1 wrote:

not even a wash in soapy water = no sorry, do not clean them leave them as-is.

what would you suggest as a reserve for these early 40s florins and shillings? = how many do you have in florins & shillings?

eeek, sooo tempting *smacks hand*. quite a few, bit late to sort out tonight, when I say group should be like 5 of assorted years rather than 5 of same year I guess...

vat - 2013-03-01 23:07:00
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Yes, definitely best to mix years, and even denominations. Photos of both sides are definitely best. If you have not photographed small objects much, take a look at some of the photos of coins some of the regulars here have listed to see what you're trying to achieve.

echoriath - 2013-03-02 00:37:00
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I should be okay with that as can use macro. any suggestion re reserve echoriath?

vat - 2013-03-02 19:53:00
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vat wrote:

I should be okay with that as can use macro. any suggestion re reserve echoriath?


I have been selling these Vat with a $1 reserve and they sell quite well, they are only worth what people want to pay for them :-)

hi vat,please read in what people have said to you ok...its up-to you on the reserve price....cheers peter

chefman1 - 2013-03-02 20:06:00
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chefman1 wrote:


I have been selling these Vat with a $1 reserve and they sell quite well, they are only worth what people want to pay for them :-)

hi vat,please read in what people have said to you ok...its up-to you on the reserve price....cheers peter

Sorry I'll re-phrase that - how much could I expect to get?

vat - 2013-03-02 21:45:00
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how much could I expect to get = they are only worth what people want to pay for them, thats what bizarre67 said to you. cheers peter

chefman1 - 2013-03-02 22:56:00
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Hi, can anyone tell me what this was...It's been mounted into a hat pin so I assume has no value anymore. I found it amongst a whole lot of old world coins. I cannot see what the date is behind it as it appears that then they mounted it, it's melted some of the picture on the back. http://images.trademe.co.nz/photoserver/full/257159594.jpg

orlandofan - 2013-03-03 18:57:00
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orlandofan wrote:

Hi, can anyone tell me what this was...It's been mounted into a hat pin so I assume has no value anymore. I found it amongst a whole lot of old world coins. I cannot see what the date is behind it as it appears that then they mounted it, it's melted some of the picture on the back. http://images.trademe.co.nz/photoserver/full/257159594.jpg[/
quote]

Never assume.

What is the diameter? It looks a lot like a gold US One Dollar coin dated 1854-1856. While the mounting is highly unfortunate and will decrease the numismatic value, depending on the date and mintmark it may still have collectible value. If not, it still has gold value of approximately NZ$100.

It is possible to remove the mount and the extra metal, though this should be done by a professional who understands the metallurgy and potential numismatic value. On the side with the mount, can you see a letter within a few millimetres of the rim? Might be a small letter C, D or O.

An chance of a better photo of both sides?If you can take a photo under the mount at an angle with the camera set on macro, we might be able to tell the mint mark. If it's a D, handle the item with a fair bit of caution. The O and D look pretty similar.

Edited by echoriath at 8:10 pm, Sun 3 Mar

echoriath - 2013-03-03 19:56:00
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Thanks echoriath. I think I am going to need a magnifying glass! It's so tiny. I will get a macro camera and have a look. Will get back to you.

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