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Welcome to the Coin Club. We are an assortment of newbies, amateurs and experts with questions and answers for newbies, amateurs and experts in coin collecting, also known as numismatics. Whether you are just getting started, have been collecting for years or have simply found some old coins about the place that you’d like to sell, this is the place to ask your questions.

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echoriath - 2013-02-13 21:47:00
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Hi guys, the lurker has crawled out from behind the couch got a question for ya. Any ideas on approx value?

http://images.trademe.co.nz/photoserver/full/254575837.jpg
http://images.trademe.co.nz/photoserver/full/254575875.jpg

brucie69 - 2013-02-14 21:44:00
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hi bruce69, cat /value is between $650.00 for fine or $1,500 for v/fine only 1,573 in mintage,hope that helps you out,nice coin,cheers peter

chefman1 - 2013-02-14 22:18:00
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Cheers Peter, be lucky to be fine I'd imagine.

brucie69 - 2013-02-14 22:22:00
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brucie69 wrote:

Cheers Peter, be lucky to be fine I'd imagine.

the detail on the coin is not to bad would say almost very/fine condition.

chefman1 - 2013-02-14 23:24:00
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How are we all doing coin clubbers!!!!

cashintheattic - 2013-02-15 13:27:00
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rbrassey - 2013-02-15 19:10:00
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rbrassey wrote:

I have a very unusual 1980 20c coin which is a lot thinner than a regular one & the detail is not as distinct - seems to be a minting defect that has slipped through. Anyone come across one like this & is it collectable?

Sounds like it could be a thin planchett. Any chance of posting pix in here, including a pic of the edge?

echoriath - 2013-02-15 19:18:00
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What kind of condition would you rate the 1935 threepence I have listed???

cashintheattic - 2013-02-16 08:48:00
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cashintheattic wrote:

What kind of condition would you rate the 1935 threepence I have listed???

i would say ave/cir-fine condition,at the top of nz is that a rust mark?,i see it has two dia cracks running of the clubs,but still a good 1935 threepence there cita.

chefman1 - 2013-02-16 09:30:00
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I didnt notice the die cracks does that help or hinder the auction? Im not sure if its rust I dont want to clean it.... Dont want to be told off lol

cashintheattic - 2013-02-16 15:39:00
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Hi Everyone

Could someone please identify these coins so I can list them as I can't find anything on them.
http://images.trademe.co.nz/photoserver/full/254846524.jpg
http://images.trademe.co.nz/photoserver/full/254846237.jpg

Thanks

bizarre67 - 2013-02-16 17:44:00
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bizarre67 wrote:

Hi Everyone

Could someone please identify these coins so I can list them as I can't find anything on them.
http://images.trademe.co.nz/photoserver/full/254846524.jpg
http://images.trademe.co.nz/photoserver/full/254846237.jpg

Thanks

I'll leave you to match yours up. Beware some symbols have very minor variations.

http://www.sportstune.com/chinese/coins/shunchih.html

wasgonna - 2013-02-16 18:11:00
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wasgonna wrote:

I'll leave you to match yours up. Beware some symbols have very minor variations.

http://www.sportstune.com/chinese/coins/shunchih.html[/quote
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Great, thanks for that was very helpful.

bizarre67 - 2013-02-16 19:39:00
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rbrassey - 2013-02-16 20:31:00
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cashintheattic wrote:

I didnt notice the die cracks does that help or hinder the auction? Im not sure if its rust I dont want to clean it.... Dont want to be told off lol

Yes, best not to clean it. Die cracks qualify it as an error coin. Rarer dates do not, in theory, benefit from "error" status, but it may have greater value than a normal one to someone who's keen.

echoriath - 2013-02-16 21:12:00
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rbrassey wrote:

Yes will do. The edge has fine reeding. There is hardly any trace of a rim, & the detail is mushy. The original blank must have been thinner than usual

Yup, thin planchetts do occur and qualify as an error.

echoriath - 2013-02-16 21:13:00
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Rarer dates do not???
yes they do thankyou.....the 1935 threepence with double die cracks do qualify as a error coin...and i do have proof of it..its in one of my books.
also the 1935 threepences as four error's on the coin.would you like me to tell what they are????

Edited by chefman1 at 9:59 pm, Sat 16 Feb

chefman1 - 2013-02-16 21:56:00
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yes please

cashintheattic - 2013-02-16 22:40:00
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There are identified errors (e.g., 1955 doubled-die US cent) recognised by numismatic grading agencies, organisations and the like. Other errors are yet to be found and formally recognised. Seems likely that the 1935 Threepence has seen enough scrutiny that these die cracks would be documented and recognised. I'm no expert on NZ coins, so perhaps that's noted somewhere.

The view expressed in the Red Book runs like this: Error coins of rare date issues generally do not command a premium beyond their normal values.

Naturally, there will be exceptions.

Edited by echoriath at 11:09 pm, Sat 16 Feb

echoriath - 2013-02-16 23:05:00
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Sweet thanks Echoriath!!!

cashintheattic - 2013-02-16 23:13:00
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1935 = wide date between the 3-5
1935 = close date between the 35
1935 = with double dia cracks on the clubs to the rim
1935 = usual well spaced date 1-9-3-5
hope that helps you out cita,cheers peter
ps. have have one of them number three ok

chefman1 - 2013-02-16 23:17:00
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Well, there you go. Peter is on the case!

echoriath - 2013-02-16 23:19:00
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When a die is damaged, usually some number of the coin get made with the error, but through wear and tear, loss/attrition, fixing/removing the faulty die, exact numbers are unknown and values can vary widely. The 1935 Threepence is interesting because of the rather limited production. I suspect your auction has many watchers and will be closely observed, cita.

echoriath - 2013-02-16 23:26:00
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Indeed, Echoriath is quite right. The cartel observes with great interest.

chrisr5 - 2013-02-17 08:53:00
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Very Much so

lester36 - 2013-02-17 11:00:00
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rbrassey - 2013-02-17 19:47:00
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rbrassey wrote:


Some photos of the coin:
http://images.trademe.co.nz/photoserver/full/255016579.jpg
http://images.trademe.co.nz/photoserver/full/255016501.jpg[/
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nice error coin you have there rbrassey what is the other side like please.
i would say value wise betwwen $100-$200+

Edited by chefman1 at 8:06 pm, Sun 17 Feb

chefman1 - 2013-02-17 20:02:00
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rbrassey - 2013-02-17 20:24:00
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If you plan to list it, an exact thickness could be a help. If you want to be really fancy, borrow a vernier calliper and find the exact thickness of the coin.

echoriath - 2013-02-17 22:17:00
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So on the topic of die cracks, I welcome opinions on this:

http://images.trademe.co.nz/photoserver/full/255170603.jpg

It runs from the "L" in "LIBERTY" to the "I" in "IN", then down to the "1" and returns back around to the neck. There's also a raised circular bit that encircles the head in a tighter radius than this crack, but that's harder to capture on camera.

echoriath - 2013-02-18 18:29:00
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rbrassey - 2013-02-19 20:28:00
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chefman1 - 2013-02-19 21:07:00
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can someone please try and work out the date on this coin for me thankyou peter
http://images.trademe.co.nz/photoserver/full/255420900.jpg

chefman1 - 2013-02-20 10:22:00
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oldecurb - 2013-02-20 19:43:00
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many thanxs bruce,cheers peter

chefman1 - 2013-02-20 20:07:00
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oldecurb - 2013-02-20 22:08:00
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chefman1 wrote:

can someone please try and work out the date on this coin for me thankyou peter
http://images.trademe.co.nz/photoserver/full/255420900.jpg[/
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I want to say 1915. It looks like there's a five on the right beside the ribbon, but that puts the five higher up than the other numbers, so I'm not really sure. It certainly seems like it's from the teens. Maybe 1918? Have you checked the back to see if it's on a mound? Remember that the 1913 has the two different types. If there's no line above "FIVE CENTS", it's 1913.

(It's a Bison Nickel, bruce.)

Edited by echoriath at 10:38 pm, Wed 20 Feb

echoriath - 2013-02-20 22:37:00
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there you go bruce, its marked in red were the date should be.
http://images.trademe.co.nz/photoserver/full/255531976.jpg
i have got the first two numbers 19--,but it could be 1916 but could be wrong..lol

chefman1 - 2013-02-20 22:40:00
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echoriath wrote:

So on the topic of die cracks, I welcome opinions on this:

http://images.trademe.co.nz/photoserver/full/255170603.jpg

It runs from the "L" in "LIBERTY" to the "I" in "IN", then down to the "1" and returns back around to the neck. There's also a raised circular bit that encircles the head in a tighter radius than this crack, but that's harder to capture on camera.

I ask because in the Red Book they show a photo of a coin missing about half the obverse design and another with an obvious cud, but in the text they describe "noticeable, raised die-crack lines." Maybe both photos are of cuds since cracks are harder to show in the low-res photos in there?

echoriath - 2013-02-20 22:44:00
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echoriath wrote:

I want to say 1915. It looks like there's a five on the right beside the ribbon, but that puts the five higher up than the other numbers, so I'm not really sure. It certainly seems like it's from the teens. Maybe 1918? Have you checked the back to see if it's on a mound? Remember that the 1913 has the two different types. If there's no line above "FIVE CENTS", it's 1913.

(It's a Bison Nickel, bruce.)

hi tim,have a look at my auctions you can see photo there,thanxs..peter

chefman1 - 2013-02-20 22:45:00
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chefman1 wrote:

there you go bruce, its marked in red were the date should be.
http://images.trademe.co.nz/photoserver/full/255531976.jpg
i have got the first two numbers 19--,but it could be 1916 but could be wrong..lol

Yes, perhaps 16, with the edge of the six damaged. There looks to be a vertical line like the left edge of a five, but as I say, that would put the five too high. Any mint mark?

echoriath - 2013-02-20 22:46:00
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echoriath wrote:

Yes, perhaps 16, with the edge of the six damaged. There looks to be a vertical line like the left edge of a five, but as I say, that would put the five too high. Any mint mark?

F its down below the date,

chefman1 - 2013-02-20 22:50:00
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chefman1 wrote:

hi tim,have a look at my auctions you can see photo there,thanxs..peter

That looks like 1916 to me.

echoriath - 2013-02-20 22:50:00
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chefman1 wrote:

F its down below the date,

F is for the designer, (James Earle) Fraser. No mint mark, so Philadelphia.

echoriath - 2013-02-20 22:51:00
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echoriath wrote:

That looks like 1916 to me.

could be right there 1916 then...lol..the more i look at it,it does have the 6 at the end,many thanxs tim

chefman1 - 2013-02-20 22:56:00
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oldecurb - 2013-02-21 10:12:00
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nz_tradingpost - 2013-02-21 19:14:00
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oldecurb wrote:

Thanks Peter. If its that hard to read the condition is so poor that its not worth keeping surely!

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chefman1 - 2013-02-21 20:39:00
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Hey guys does anyone have any information on the 1862 Sydney Mint 1/2 Sovereign?

cashintheattic - 2013-02-21 21:09:00
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