THE NEW COIN CLUB
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10201 | And an Apology to Mudeki. After climbing up to the attic to examine the records of a long abandoned bank account I did locate an undocumented deposit made over 100 days after the original transaction. I am sorry that my powers of clairvoyance did not enable me to make the correct attribution. alpha111 - 2021-08-29 09:53:00 |
10202 | Welcome to the Coin Club. We are an assortment of newbies and oldbies, amateurs and experts with questions and answers for oldbies and newbies, amateurs and experts in coin collecting, also known as numismatics. Whether you are just getting started, have been collecting for years or have simply found some old coins about the place that you’d like to sell, this is the place to ask your questions. No one has all the answers, and you may get five differing answers to the same question, yet each may be right in a manner of speaking, especially if opinions are involved. Opinions often vary. If you receive no answer to your query within 48 hours, please ask again. alpha111 - 2021-08-29 09:55:00 |
10203 | alpha111 wrote:
Thanks for this - I didn't see the post in time but it's available to listen/download on the RNZ website: translateltd - 2021-08-29 12:53:00 |
10204 | Hi matt61 - 2021-08-29 17:00:00 |
10205 | lester36 wrote: alpha111 - 2021-08-29 20:00:00 |
10206 | Cheers Don. lester36 - 2021-08-29 20:12:00 |
10207 | Listing #3222834397 was described as ROMAN? FLAVIOUS VICTOR BRONZE COIN? starting at $100. Extremely low price for that emperor. alpha111 - 2021-08-29 20:29:00 |
10208 | matt61 wrote:
The style of Britannia is very crude compared to official Royal Mint products. It will be a private token, medalet or gaming counter. It also looks brass rather than silver, though that could be due to lighting. translateltd - 2021-08-29 21:25:00 |
10209 | alpha111 wrote:
I was struggling with the legend when I saw it, but now you've pointed it out I can make out [AUT K?] KLAUDIOS SEB, so that makes sense. translateltd - 2021-08-29 21:28:00 |
10210 | "Unknown medal Sports Could be Russian?" Listing #3244050249 alpha111 - 2021-09-01 11:09:00 |
10211 | alpha111 wrote:
Funnily enough I just sent a comment on this to the seller :-) Not sure about the initials L E (or A E) above, though. Edited by translateltd at 12:10 pm, Wed 1 Sep translateltd - 2021-09-01 12:04:00 |
10212 | Here's a silver one from 1929 - got the obverse legend now: https://www.facebook.com/groups/OnceUponATimeInLarnaca/perma translateltd - 2021-09-01 12:19:00 |
10213 | Were the type 2 NZ 1988 50c coin (no rope variety ) found only in the sets issue, or in the general circulated as well ? gammoner - 2021-09-03 10:52:00 |
10214 | gammoner wrote:
Both in circulation. It's a complicated story as the no-rope turns up occasionally in earlier years too - research is still ongoing but as I understand it there was a second hub that got pressed into service when required (including to bridge a delay while waiting for new reverse dies to be prepared in 1988), and that's the one the no-rope dies were prepared from. Far from being gospel but it's something like that at least :-) translateltd - 2021-09-03 16:09:00 |
10215 | The member deleted this message. buybuybullion1 - 2021-09-03 16:22:00 |
10216 | it would have been nice if, after the completion of the stamp lots in the Noble auction, the dude doing the auction had finished up by saying something along the lines that this now completes the live session of the auction and to be sure to put your bids in online for the numismatic literature section, if you are interested. But alas, the dude, who seemed totally bored and uninterested, didn't bother to do this. You'd think he'd have at least feigned some interest and excitement for the benefit of the numismatic enthusiasts watching! Anyway, gripe over. I did not get to put my bids on the literature section which looked very interesting (numismatic and non numismatic literature). Is there any easy way to get to read (preferably online) Sutherland's 'Numismatic History of NZ?. Don't really need my own copy as it is obviously not exactly up to date. Just thought it would be interesting to read to get some insights from back then. dtpapa - 2021-09-04 12:54:00 |
10217 | dtpapa wrote:
Since it's quite a scarce collectible in itself I hope there aren't digital bootleg versions around :-) We all (well, I assume all) gripe about knock-off copies of rare coins ... translateltd - 2021-09-04 16:07:00 |
10218 | translateltd wrote:
why is that then? if it a collectible in itself then a digital copy can hardly be mistaken for the real thing? People should be free to read it without paying 1000 dollars or whatever it is people in NZ want for it. It sells at noble for as little as $200.(is it in copyright, the NZ numismatic society should reprint it and sell for 40 or 50 dollars) dtpapa - 2021-09-04 18:15:00 |
10219 | True, I guess, and to be fair on everyone, people should be free to make and sell $10 knock-offs of Waitangi crowns for those who don't want to fork out $7000 for the real thing. translateltd - 2021-09-04 19:28:00 |
10220 | translateltd wrote:
well sort of, but I see it more like comparing a Dickens first edition with a modern reprint. The words are identical in both. dtpapa - 2021-09-04 20:58:00 |
10221 | but speaking of the Waitangi, I didn't really like the look the crown, or the halfcrown here (maybe the finger print is not so obvious in real life!) https://noble.com.au/auctions/lot/?id=435671&i=1&ret dtpapa - 2021-09-04 21:01:00 |
10222 | also this hard to understand how it could be subject to such wear (apparently). But it's graded, so guess it's okay and not dodgy. Or is it? dtpapa - 2021-09-04 21:04:00 |
10223 | dtpapa wrote:
American VF, clearly :-) Looks like it was polished by rubbing it against a stone. translateltd - 2021-09-05 07:23:00 |
10224 | dtpapa wrote:
In all seriousness, though, Sutherland was working on an updated edition when he died in 1967, and someone else took the task over (1970s?) - but I can't remember who, or where, sadly. It was mentioned in the Journals somewhere. But the task was clearly never completed, and I wonder what happened to the papers. translateltd - 2021-09-05 07:25:00 |
10225 | dtpapa wrote:
If he died in 1967 then it went out of copyright in NZ in 2017. But it would still be in copyright in a bunch of other countries until 2037 (most notably in Australia, the EU and USA). justinian1 - 2021-09-05 08:30:00 |
10226 | Years ago I got a copy of Sunderland's book through my local library at the time, They got it from Wellington from someplace that I have forgotten. Don't know if that still can happen as that was in the '70's kiwialan - 2021-09-05 09:35:00 |
10227 | The Sutherland book was also produced as separate subjects as well as the hard cover book. eg Paper Currency, Medals of NZ, Barter and currency etc. I have several examples of some and singles of others. Also some are a slightly different size than others,. Also have the hard cover book in my library. nznotes - 2021-09-05 16:16:00 |
10228 | if you live in one of the main centres I guess you could always visit your library and inspect a copy there. It's been a couple of decades since I last visited a library, I assume they still have photocopying machines or whatever the modern equivalent is? Edited by dtpapa at 7:41 pm, Sun 5 Sep dtpapa - 2021-09-05 19:40:00 |
10229 | I reckon the Royal Numismatic Society of NZ need to pull their collective fingers out and give each member who joins a copy, especially since Sutherland is their founder. It's actually the least they should do. I'd probably even join myself if they did that. dtpapa - 2021-09-05 19:46:00 |
10230 | dtpapa wrote:
<Skin crawls at the thought of pressing a valuable book flat to photocopy/scan it ...> You could probably Interloan a copy if your local library doesn't have an example, in any case, as Alan suggested above. translateltd - 2021-09-05 21:26:00 |
10231 | translateltd wrote:
I used to work at Auckland Libraries- we had a special scanner for digitising rare manuscripts. Had adjustable levels so it didn't put any pressure on the binding. You can get cheaper ones that would be ok too that scan from above. enserf - 2021-09-06 11:00:00 |
10232 | enserf wrote:
Handy to know - thanks! translateltd - 2021-09-06 13:09:00 |
10233 | Just dug up my foolscap copy of Sutherland that was copied at Canterbury University years ago. (It wasn't pressed flat). Later another coin book that I had 90% copied was taken off me with the photocopies before I had finished but the Library refunded my money for the copied pages. They later stung me a large overdue fine for a book on Roman coins that had not been lent out for over 30 years. alpha111 - 2021-09-06 14:29:00 |
10234 | alpha111 wrote:
Wheeling and Dealing in retirement no doubt gammoner - 2021-09-06 14:41:00 |
10235 | alpha111 wrote:
Book was last relisted just a couple of weeks ago. translateltd - 2021-09-06 16:13:00 |
10236 | Is there any easy way to get to read (preferably online) Sutherland's 'Numismatic History of NZ?. Don't really need my own copy as it is obviously not exactly up to date. Just thought it would be interesting to read to get some insights from back then.[/quote] You could buy this copy 3251157482 It is a little bit PRICEY. lester36 - 2021-09-06 19:30:00 |
10237 | lester36 wrote:
Someone's going to do well out of that if it's been a library sell-off. translateltd - 2021-09-06 19:54:00 |
10238 | thanks Lester I've now read pages 220-221, lol dtpapa - 2021-09-06 20:46:00 |
10239 | Found list coin yesterday , Can anyone give me an aprox grade idea. https://trademe.tmcdn.co.nz/photoserver/full/1607338756.jpg Edited by lester36 at 9:08 am, Sun 12 Sep lester36 - 2021-09-12 09:03:00 |
10240 | The American Numismatic Association has a free Youtube video titled "UNDERSTANDING COIN GRADING — VIDEO VIGNETTES". alpha111 - 2021-09-12 10:07:00 |
10241 | Thanks Don I had a look at the grading video , Interesting. lester36 - 2021-09-12 10:48:00 |
10242 | lester36 wrote:
If you're thinking of selling to the American market then use their grades, which will probably be a half to a whole grade higher than UK/NZ standards. No point accidentally underselling! translateltd - 2021-09-12 12:22:00 |
10243 | "China's oldest currency discovered" Anthropologist Bill Maurer explains the significant of the recent discovery of the oldest known Chinese metal currency unearthed at the site of a foundary in the ancient city of Guanzhuang which was established about 800 BC. On Radio NZ on Nine to Noon this morning. alpha111 - 2021-09-14 10:39:00 |
10244 | alpha111 wrote:
Cool - thanks again for this. I bought the book following the last coin-related broadcast. translateltd - 2021-09-14 11:29:00 |
10245 | Have a question. Not sure if this is the right place. I have found a $10 note in a box of books , looks brand new. With 'commemorating the new millenium' at the bottom. Number on it is Ab 000 ***** The number is between 40 and 50 thousand. Is it worth anything or shall I just go buy some chocolate with it lol. booksnstuff - 2021-09-14 19:35:00 |
10246 | $20 to $30 is an average these sell for normally gammoner - 2021-09-14 20:04:00 |
10247 | Bump translateltd - 2021-09-21 06:46:00 |
10248 | UK 1821 Sterling Silver Shilling VF Listing # 3270868941 Even Americans would be embarrassed by this grading. alpha111 - 2021-09-21 10:55:00 |
10249 | alpha111 wrote:
Well, G and F are adjacent on the keyboard :-) translateltd - 2021-09-21 12:10:00 |
10250 | alpha111 wrote: I think VF for the Sterling Silver Shilling is spot on . . . that's if VF means Virtually F***ed. wasgonna - 2021-09-21 12:11:00 |