THE NEW COIN CLUB
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| 10151 | translateltd wrote:
Thanks for the advice Martin. Grant cas40 - 2021-07-17 10:48:00 |
| 10152 | Welcome to the Coin Club. We are an assortment of newbies and oldbies, amateurs and experts with questions and answers for oldbies and newbies, amateurs and experts in coin collecting, also known as numismatics. Whether you are just getting started, have been collecting for years or have simply found some old coins about the place that you’d like to sell, this is the place to ask your questions. No one has all the answers, and you may get five differing answers to the same question, yet each may be right in a manner of speaking, especially if opinions are involved. Opinions often vary. If you receive no answer to your query within 48 hours, please ask again. translateltd - 2021-07-17 10:54:00 |
| 10153 | jesus2000 wrote:
The evidence isn't looking good - found one of these amongst the trader's recent sales too: https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005002559075636.html translateltd - 2021-07-17 10:56:00 |
| 10154 | translateltd wrote:
Thanks. Hard to tell if TM are doing much about it after I reported it nearly a couple of weeks ago now. I don't know if this would be something the police would look into? Perhaps some of you guys here could at least report it to TM as well in order to trigger some action. Edited by jesus2000 at 11:06 am, Sat 17 Jul jesus2000 - 2021-07-17 11:04:00 |
| 10155 | If the seller does not respond or give a refund take it to the police with all evidence of communication to the seller and trademe it is blatant fraud. Also log a complaint here https://comcom.govt.nz/make-a-complaint I have done it before and had sellers of Aliexpress items investigated for false information Also advise other traders who have purchased to do the same / share case numbers as a reference when they log a complaint and make it big enough the authorities have to act on it. Edited by coinerrorsnz at 11:15 am, Sat 17 Jul coinerrorsnz - 2021-07-17 11:13:00 |
| 10156 | No, you are wrong because the two examples couldn't look more different. Maybe you should've gone to Specsavers! Well I did find this on the RoyalMint web site: https://www.royalmint.com/our-coins/events/music-legends/que Edited by puckles at 11:40 am, Thu 22 Jul puckles - 2021-07-22 11:36:00 |
| 10157 | puckles wrote: [/quote] Yep, the RM coin has the standard effigy of HM the Queen on one side for one thing, unlike the aliexpress "creation", whatever it is. translateltd - 2021-07-22 12:29:00 |
| 10158 | Interesting comments. There is one thing worse than receiving fakes ~ that is type of fraud where you receive nothing for your money. alpha111 - 2021-07-23 17:46:00 |
| 10159 | First of all Don lets get the facts correct. You purchase an item and pay 31/08/2015. I email and ask if you will be in wellington at an auction and I did not receive a reply. I took the item and when you were not there I posted it. Months later 11/12/2015 you make a comment in this message board to say I am a fraud so I email you and you advise me you spent some time in Australia and had your mail stopped for security. It was far to late for me to chase up on the post 2 months later so I asked for your account number that you did not give me. I went to the bank and asked for a copy of the transaction information and for them to refund your account on the 12/12/2015 this $15.20 would have showed in your account at Kiwibank on the 14/12/2015. Yet you never replied to my emails after that. If you would like a copy of the transfer receipt let me know. mudeki - 2021-07-23 20:08:00 |
| 10160 | mudeki wrote: nznotes - 2021-07-24 16:20:00 |
| 10161 | "Fine German Silver 999"? Since German silver is a base metal alloy, what exactly does this mean? translateltd - 2021-07-25 10:05:00 |
| 10162 | translateltd wrote:
Both of those bars can be found at AliExpress yet again (silver plated) jesus2000 - 2021-07-25 20:23:00 |
| 10163 | I see nothing was done about the fake "Queen" silver round that was reported, and it sold to a presumably unsuspecting buyer today for $50. Perhaps TM won't take the scammers on and just thinks buyers should do their own research. translateltd - 2021-07-25 21:37:00 |
| 10164 | Aussie bullion dealer noticing more fakes turning up now too... https://youtu.be/5847chXTqls?t=497 jesus2000 - 2021-07-31 19:37:00 |
| 10165 | jesus2000 wrote:
Thanks for posting this - I've on-shared it on a couple of Facebook groups. translateltd - 2021-08-01 11:30:00 |
| 10166 | I have just got an album of coins that have been in the album since the late 60's . They have green on a lot of the edges, is there an easy way to clean the green off without ruining the coins. Thanks in advance. lester36 - 2021-08-01 22:50:00 |
| 10167 | lester36 wrote:
Not really sure there is - I put all my coins in plastic albums in the 70s and some silvers and coppers left green marks behind in the pockets, as well as taking on an interesting hue around the edges themselves. Not sure soap and water would be strong enough to do the job, and anything stronger would give the coins a "cleaned" look. Damned if you do, damned if you don't with this one, I fear. translateltd - 2021-08-02 06:43:00 |
| 10168 | Thanks Martin lester36 - 2021-08-02 07:47:00 |
| 10169 | OMG! I hope someone doesn't pay too much for his latest pile of fake junk and gets burnt big time. (I even highly suspect the Perth mint gold bar is a fake too) https://www.trademe.co.nz/a/marketplace/antiques-collectable Looks like he is trying to dump it all quickly as the heat is starting to come on him. Edited by jesus2000 at 5:08 pm, Wed 4 Aug jesus2000 - 2021-08-04 16:56:00 |
| 10170 | jesus2000 wrote:
Spotted those earlier - he even admits in the Q&A that a "magna" sticks to some of them. Buyer beware at the end of the day, I guess. A comment sent to TM on an earlier item was replied to after 13 days (!) saying essentially that the item in question had unfortunately finished - surprise, surprise - so there wasn't much they could do about it. I won't bother reporting any dodgy stuff I spot in future. translateltd - 2021-08-04 18:21:00 |
| 10171 | That'll be the "Non magnetic Credit swiss bullion bar 1 OZ real gold plated" ones. Copper isn't magnetic so they just need to be silver or gold plated copper. jesus2000 - 2021-08-04 18:52:00 |
| 10172 | "Perth Mint" ones... Edited by jesus2000 at 6:56 pm, Wed 4 Aug jesus2000 - 2021-08-04 18:55:00 |
| 10173 | Good grief. That geezer has no shame. At least it's $1 reserve so not making any representation on value. He blacklisted me when I called him out on another auction so I can't comment. enserf - 2021-08-04 19:31:00 |
| 10174 | Yes I've seen a few people calling him out in the questions. But then someone would still buy it for $150 or something! Unbelievable that people could miss warning signs like that. I shudder to think what this latest auction will get up to in $$$. Unfortunately traders like this will only ruin the reputation of TM as a place to buy bullion and coins from in the future. This is only likely to become more prevalent as the price of precious metals goes up more. It becomes more attractive for the desperate and criminals to try and rip unsuspecting people off. jesus2000 - 2021-08-04 19:55:00 |
| 10175 | Bump... translateltd - 2021-08-11 15:40:00 |
| 10176 | Well it has been entertaining watching all the grief he has been getting. Not any new bids over the last few days. And while on the subject of fake gold and silver - the best and cheapest test to do from home is the specific gravity test... https://youtu.be/xw-2kqjtEdI?t=108 jesus2000 - 2021-08-11 20:01:00 |
| 10177 | I see someone must have withdrawn their bid. It was at $2020 yesterday now back down to $2000. https://www.trademe.co.nz/a/marketplace/antiques-collectable jesus2000 - 2021-08-12 10:09:00 |
| 10178 | jesus2000 wrote:
He's doing a merry dance in the Q&A, and at least some of the bidders clearly aren't looking there. translateltd - 2021-08-12 11:24:00 |
| 10179 | Closed at $3990. jesus2000 - 2021-08-13 14:28:00 |
| 10180 | jesus2000 wrote:
Will be interesting to watch for feedback - the Q&A was interesting, indeed downright nasty in parts. translateltd - 2021-08-13 16:27:00 |
| 10181 | Far out. Someone's been ripped off. Hope they pull out of the deal. I assume I'm still blacklisted by him, but I did report it. enserf - 2021-08-13 20:35:00 |
| 10182 | I reported that one again too early on. jesus2000 - 2021-08-13 21:25:00 |
| 10183 | Oh good on you guys for trying to bring transparency and integrity into TM numismatic and precious metal items coming up for sale. Proud of you guys. Numismatic items - definitely seeing a surge of replica's and just wish that these were banned as they will cause problems in the future. I have purchased the odd replicas so I can show people what to look for. Last year a friend showed me a GB sovereign that they were going to swap for a vehicle. It took some effort to convince him the coin was a forgery. I've just purchased some awful reproduction stamps as part of a research I'm doing. I'm disappointed that NZPost has not requested these be withdrawn. When I discussed the issue with a fellow Dealer, he said that NZPost wouldn't worried about chasing someone that is making only a handful of dollars. Not good as in NZPost Act these are illegal items being offered. Just having my own battle with a case of 'Cultural Appropriation' of Maori Carved boxes etc that have been on the market place for several years. Many are sold through Antique shops and online Auctions. No Maori hands have touched these ghastly products. I commented on the stool, my remarks were removed by Trade Me because of the sellers turnover status, they were able to remove my complaint. It is their description that bugs me, no way would a Maori carver place carvings on a surface where someone would sit on it! This alone is offensive and breaks protocols. Maori elders even balk if a person sits on a plain table LOL. These items have all been made in Bali for next to nothing, and have sold for hundreds of dollars. The wooden box has been deliberately aged, many have sold through a major Auction House, my concerns and protests have been unsuccessful. Buyers obviously presume Whakairo Tohunga [Maori Carvers] have crafted these items. If you saw the original boxes there is absolutely no comparison, as Many of the original boxes were crafted by significant Maori Carvers. Patu's and Mere have also been forged. See loision - 2021-08-16 19:58:00 |
| 10184 | Hi All in lockdown. lester36 - 2021-08-18 12:45:00 |
| 10185 | lester36 wrote:
Hi Lindsay, The indentations in the centre on both sides are the giveaway - it's a Ptolemaic bronze from Alexandria (pre-Roman Egypt). The reverse legend around the eagle will be PTOLEMAIOS BASILEOS (forgive the odd incorrect letter or two in my transcription) - you can just see the PT at the start on your example. Now which of the Ptolemies it is ... I'll leave that to you to track down! Edited by translateltd at 2:30 pm, Wed 18 Aug translateltd - 2021-08-18 14:29:00 |
| 10186 | Thanks Martin I was a bit concerned with the indentations . lester36 - 2021-08-18 15:06:00 |
| 10187 | Trader continues to sell fake gold and silver bullion. https://www.trademe.co.nz/a/marketplace/antiques-collectable I am locked out from posting questions on his auctions, but if someone could copy and paste this into his questions it would counter his enough "but a magnet doesn't stick to some" nonsense... Just because a magnet doesn't stick to them doesn't mean they aren't fake. A magnet won't stick to brass or copper so they just need to be plated brass or copper. ie... https://www.aliexpress.com/item/32933342083.html?spm=a2g0o.p jesus2000 - 2021-08-20 11:52:00 |
| 10188 | translateltd wrote:
A talk about 'German silver' near the end of this vid... https://youtu.be/vLU0jCUafao?t=75 jesus2000 - 2021-08-20 12:54:00 |
| 10189 | jesus2000 wrote:
I know what German silver is :-) Point is that it can't be .999 - more proof that the fellow in question hasn't a clue what he's talking about. translateltd - 2021-08-20 13:57:00 |
| 10190 | translateltd wrote:
The guy at the end of the vid is holding up the exact same 'German silver .999' bar that was for sale on TM. jesus2000 - 2021-08-20 14:01:00 |
| 10191 | I see more aggression in the Q&A below his latest bulk offering, too. translateltd - 2021-08-20 14:07:00 |
| 10192 | I just can't believe someone would shell out $4k (the last lot) without doing their research. I made a few blind purchases early on I may get checked some day, but 1oz Ag a lot less risk than what this critter is offering. enserf - 2021-08-20 14:15:00 |
| 10193 | enserf wrote:
Same - early on I bought a couple of items that I thought were incredible bargains but turned out to be junk. At least the losses were in the tens rather than the thousands. Must show them in the Coin Collectors group on FB when I find them again :-) translateltd - 2021-08-22 11:23:00 |
| 10194 | translateltd wrote:
Great idea- most in this forum seem to be fairly well educated in collecting, but a lot of newbies on FB- including my son! enserf - 2021-08-22 13:53:00 |
| 10195 | enserf wrote:
i see positive feedback left by the buyer so well sold chrisr5 - 2021-08-22 14:23:00 |
| 10196 | chrisr5 wrote:
The seller seems to believe positive feedback is an endorsement of their genuineness - whereas it just means the duds haven't been spotted yet! translateltd - 2021-08-22 15:34:00 |
| 10197 | Went for $4830 in the end. justinian1 - 2021-08-27 19:50:00 |
| 10198 | justinian1 wrote:
OMG. And it will be all junk. jesus2000 - 2021-08-28 12:00:00 |
| 10199 | jesus2000 wrote:
The "high-end" stuff, anyway - I assume banknotes and the cu-ni dollars and crowns are OK, not that that's really much of an offset. And TM still takes no notice. Edited by translateltd at 3:18 pm, Sat 28 Aug translateltd - 2021-08-28 15:17:00 |
| 10200 | Radio NZ 10.06 am today, book review "When money talks : a history of coins and numismatics".by Dr. Frank Lee Holt. An expert on the new research methodology of Cognitive Numismatics. And Alexander the Great. alpha111 - 2021-08-29 09:11:00 |
