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Hi Martin, just an update to the Numismatic Society of Auckland 50th Anniversary Teutenberg 2009/3
Just wondering if the silver and gold weights have been reversed in publication
I have the 9ct gold and it is exactly 21.00gm and a fraction over 9ct purity when tested with the XRF
I don't have the silver one to weigh to see if it is 20.50gm though

gammoner - 2021-04-22 19:34:00
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gammoner - 2021-04-22 19:35:00
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gammoner wrote:

Hi Martin, just an update to the Numismatic Society of Auckland 50th Anniversary Teutenberg 2009/3
Just wondering if the silver and gold weights have been reversed in publication
I have the 9ct gold and it is exactly 21.00gm and a fraction over 9ct purity when tested with the XRF
I don't have the silver one to weigh to see if it is 20.50gm though

Thanks, Alan - I have the three metal versions so will check and report back. I'll certainly fix it in the 3rd edition if they have been transposed.

translateltd - 2021-04-22 20:24:00
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alpha111 wrote:

I obtained the Geoffrey Hearn NZ 1954 silver proof-like re-strike from Mowbrays earlier this year for $26.70 including shipping (like the NZ one in the lot of 5).

Well done on getting the Hearn one in any case - I'd have been very happy to have got one for that price.

translateltd - 2021-04-22 20:26:00
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hi everyone i am trying to find nz twenty cent coins for the year 1983 for an small project i am after as many as i can get up to twenty coins.
can anyone help in finding or supplying them thanks in advance.

freeman42 - 2021-04-23 11:56:00
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gammoner wrote:

Hi Martin, just an update to the Numismatic Society of Auckland 50th Anniversary Teutenberg 2009/3
Just wondering if the silver and gold weights have been reversed in publication
I have the 9ct gold and it is exactly 21.00gm and a fraction over 9ct purity when tested with the XRF
I don't have the silver one to weigh to see if it is 20.50gm though

There appears to be a bit of fluctuation in both metals - I'll note a range in my working copy for the next edition.

translateltd - 2021-04-23 17:12:00
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25 April so dig out the cased 60 mm bronze medal designed by Dora Ohlfsen "ANZAC In eternal remembrance 1914-1918" with the card stating " In aid of Australians and New Zealanders maimed in the war".Carlisle -1914-1918/1
Amazed to see someone wants US$350 for one on ebay.
Remember helping an Aussie for half an hour to find a plaque on the Gallipoli Peninsula so he could take a photo of it back to a workmate in Sydney (workmates' great uncle). What horror happened in such a beautiful place.

alpha111 - 2021-04-25 14:54:00
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alpha111 wrote:

25 April so dig out the cased 60 mm bronze medal designed by Dora Ohlfsen "ANZAC In eternal remembrance 1914-1918" with the card stating " In aid of Australians and New Zealanders maimed in the war".Carlisle -1914-1918/1

Just looked this up in Les's book and it looks a nice item. I wasn't aware of it before, but I guess we should look at including it in the Morel update. Permission to borrow or photograph at some point pse?

translateltd - 2021-04-27 06:52:00
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translateltd wrote:


Permission to borrow or photograph at some point pse?


Oui.

alpha111 - 2021-04-27 18:56:00
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Can anyone please advise me regarding a series six N.Z Ten Dollar Note which I have. It is correct and legit in all respects except for the size. Yes, the size is slightly smaller in both length and width, by five or six millimetres. I repeat, the note is correct in all the security features, it is correct in all respects other than the size as mentioned. It sure is a curious and interesting banknote. It has not been shrunk with heat or anything like that, it is just , simply, smaller! I'll post jpegs if anyone is interested. Meanwhile though, any help would be much appreciated.

flautist - 2021-04-27 21:59:00
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I vaguely recall something similar being reported with the polymer notes going through hot washes - can you be entirely sure that hasn't happened?

translateltd - 2021-04-28 05:59:00
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On Wednesday (28 April 2021), Tokoroa Police arrested a man after he allegedly paid for goods with counterfeit notes, police said in a statement.
The man was in possession of a large amount of these notes and it is likely more are still circulating in the community.
The notes are printed on paper which can tear easily as opposed to legal tender which is printed on polymer.

alpha111 - 2021-04-30 12:27:00
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translateltd wrote:

I vaguely recall something similar being reported with the polymer notes going through hot washes - can you be entirely sure that hasn't happened?

Yep, polymer notes are well known for shrinking with heat. There's even a warning on the reserve bank page. A bit like the shrinky-dinks they used to do.

chrisr5 - 2021-05-02 12:42:00
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Bump ...

translateltd - 2021-05-09 08:56:00
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Hello, I have some old coins that I would like to get valued. Can anyone recommend a reputable coin valuer located in Christchurch??

Many thanks.

bidderkmj - 2021-05-15 13:06:00
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You could try the Shades Stamp Shop at 303 Bealey Avenue, Christchurch.
Also go to the Library as there should be Coin catalogues with prices under 737 (that's the number to look for on the shelves).

Edited by alpha111 at 7:35 pm, Sat 15 May

alpha111 - 2021-05-15 19:32:00
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Bump ...

translateltd - 2021-05-22 17:49:00
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All very quiet at the moment ... readers might enjoy the possibility raised in this article of a single one-billion-pound NCLT coin being struck to settle a legal claim - echoes of Mark Twain's story about the million-pound note. And with inflation in the past century and a bit, probably not a vast difference in spending power :-)

https://coinsweekly.com/will-expelled-atoll-inhabitants-rece
ive-collector-coins-as-compensation/

translateltd - 2021-05-29 15:05:00
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Came across some 1990 20c coins in a bag that had a cut out newspaper article regarding " coin confusion " over them and the $2 coin. The article says that some of the 1990 20c coins were released in 2003 to cover a shortage over Xmas. Some were found to be " tarnished " from storage and came out with a gold colour that had traders confusing them with the $2 coin. Anybody remember this ?

pottynz - 2021-06-03 16:31:00
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pottynz wrote:

Came across some 1990 20c coins in a bag that had a cut out newspaper article regarding " coin confusion " over them and the $2 coin. The article says that some of the 1990 20c coins were released in 2003 to cover a shortage over Xmas. Some were found to be " tarnished " from storage and came out with a gold colour that had traders confusing them with the $2 coin. Anybody remember this ?

I remember a lot coming out with a goldy-brown hue but I wouldn't have thought it strong enough to confuse them with a $2. There may have been something in the Num. Soc. of Auckland "Mintmark" newsletter at the time, or the RNSNZ one - not sure at this distance but I can certainly recall the subject coming up.

translateltd - 2021-06-03 17:06:00
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Bump ...

translateltd - 2021-06-10 07:40:00
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Another bump.

translateltd - 2021-06-17 09:39:00
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Cleaning up years of collecting and found this unusual medal or token https://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/Listing.aspx?id=3139641526
Not sure what it is worth but one is on eBay at a very high price

kiwialan - 2021-06-18 12:29:00
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hi all i have a yr2000 5c coin it has been stamped wrongly and around the number 5 are re-stamp marks how do i get someone who has knowledge on such things to view it and possibly let me know if it has value, thanks
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10222328121703452&am
p;set=p.10222328121703452&type=3&__cft__[0]=AZWUHV_6
zO5cg-bnSsxNVlBv3kfMofPdM8RcfCGsd6YYcNPsrMHbEKRijFZGkMz3Ek93
qw-gIUVPY5YkVbBVCBRCwiuD--bc9WJ9vmJ1YydFMy2nigAz8Wy6AU7oJXJy
x7EFMmWAWpkZd2kcMgS8d4KP&__tn__=R]-R

Edited by cre8tiv3 at 4:25 pm, Sun 20 Jun

cre8tiv3 - 2021-06-20 16:20:00
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There's a little bit of die doubling on the 5 - possibly caused by a fault on the die itself rather than double-stamping on the coin (all the detail would be doubled if the coin had been punched twice, not just the 5). As someone mentioned on the FB post, it looks slightly off-centre and may not have been sitting straight when struck, giving a bit of a tilt effect toward the top.
There are lots of minor variations in detail in the 5c series, and doubtless others, but I'm not sure how much it will affect the value - if variety/error collectors are keen they'll pay a bit of a premium, but how much is anyone's guess.

translateltd - 2021-06-20 16:42:00
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translateltd wrote:

There'-
s a little bit of die doubling on the 5 - possibly caused by a fault on the die itself rather than double-stamping on the coin (all the detail would be doubled if the coin had been punched twice, not just the 5). As someone mentioned on the FB post, it looks slightly off-centre and may not have been sitting straight when struck, giving a bit of a tilt effect toward the top.
There are lots of minor variations in detail in the 5c series, and doubtless others, but I'm not sure how much it will affect the value - if variety/error collectors are keen they'll pay a bit of a premium, but how much is anyone's guess.

That FB poster seems to know his stuff we should invite him to this thread......

chrisr5 - 2021-06-22 20:40:00
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chrisr5 wrote:


That FB poster seems to know his stuff we should invite him to this thread......

We need something :-) I've been wondering what happened to all the vibrant exchanges with new collectors of 10-15 years ago - while the bubble of the changeover to the smaller coins has abated, I suspect most have moved to Facebook now, including the I've-found-a-penny-can-I-r-
etire-on-the-proceeds brigade, who seem to be out in force over there.

Edited by translateltd at 7:01 am, Wed 23 Jun

translateltd - 2021-06-23 07:00:00
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Listing # 3026896211 has a person who appears to be looking forward to retiring on the proceeds; and who knows how many valuable coins may have slipped between the floorboards over the years for the lucky purchaser to acquire with a bit of digging! Sorry being facetious.

alpha111 - 2021-06-24 11:13:00
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What would a 2016 NEWZEALAND proof currency set !
Queen Elizabeth 11 90th birthday be worth
Also a Queen Elizabeth 90th birthday coin ,with the Queens parents holding her as a baby , thanks

paynta1 - 2021-06-24 15:20:00
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paynta1 wrote:

What would a 2016 NEWZEALAND proof currency set !
Queen Elizabeth 11 90th birthday be worth
Also a Queen Elizabeth 90th birthday coin ,with the Queens parents holding her as a baby , thanks

Depends if you're buying or selling :-) Catalogue guide prices are $250 and $135 respectively, which is probably what you would expect to pay a major dealer to purchase them. For selling on TM I'd imagine they'd go for a little less than that, but you never know.

translateltd - 2021-06-24 15:44:00
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Thanks translateltd , i am looking at selling for a uncle ,but just wanting to know value , So thanks for your comment

paynta1 - 2021-06-24 15:58:00
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Bump

translateltd - 2021-07-02 07:06:00
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Bump again

translateltd - 2021-07-09 11:00:00
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Does anyone know if it's worth offering British pre-decimal coins for sale here, and what they would be worth? I have 14 Whitman folders that I was collecting with a boyfriend in England in the mid-60s - from farthings to half crowns (but I'm missing the pennies folders at the moment). So up to 1967 and they're not complete but still quite a few. Are there any rare coins I could look for? Thanks for any help.

athena2 - 2021-07-14 15:37:00
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athena2 wrote:

Does anyone know if it's worth offering British pre-decimal coins for sale here, and what they would be worth? I have 14 Whitman folders that I was collecting with a boyfriend in England in the mid-60s - from farthings to half crowns (but I'm missing the pennies folders at the moment). So up to 1967 and they're not complete but still quite a few. Are there any rare coins I could look for? Thanks for any help.

Skimming through a British coin catalogue might be the best way to check for rare dates - or have a look at coins-of-the-uk.co.uk, for example. Off the top of my head, 1946 and 1949 brass threepences would be worth a premium, as would 1950 and 1951 pennies. Condition makes a difference, too, and if they've been sitting in cardboard albums for a long time there might be some toning or other reactions to look out for.
Still, no harm in listing them to see what bites you might get - you never know what demand may be like without testing the waters.

translateltd - 2021-07-14 18:05:00
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translateltd wrote:

Skimming through a British coin catalogue might be the best way to check for rare dates - or have a look at coins-of-the-uk.co.uk, for example. Off the top of my head, 1946 and 1949 brass threepences would be worth a premium, as would 1950 and 1951 pennies. Condition makes a difference, too, and if they've been sitting in cardboard albums for a long time there might be some toning or other reactions to look out for.
Still, no harm in listing them to see what bites you might get - you never know what demand may be like without testing the waters.

Great advice, thanks. Of course the 1946 and 1949 are the ones I don't have! Will check out the rest. Thanks for that.

athena2 - 2021-07-14 18:08:00
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Fake coin being passed off as silver bullion.

https://www.trademe.co.nz/a/marketplace/antiques-collectable
s/coins/new-zealand-decimal/silver/listing/3178939153

The seller is trying to pass this coin off as a solid silver coin. The only reference to the coin I have ever been able to find is this which shows that it is a silver plated coin only worth a couple of dollars...

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/32847669709.html?spm=a2g0o.p
roductlist.0.0.6fd314ffg8OeMj&algo_pvid=25f919b9-47ce-44
26-b0ab-8ed5dbf1376b&algo_exp_id=25f919b9-47ce-4426-b0ab
-8ed5dbf1376b-11

Scammers usually place fake coins in plastic cases to make it harder for people to do the usual tests on them.

I think it's important for the TradeMe community to look out for fakes like this. Experienced people may be able to see the warning signs but there are lots of other people that won't know any better and buy thinking they are investing in bullion.

jesus2000 - 2021-07-15 17:43:00
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jesus2000 wrote:

Fake coin being passed off as silver bullion.

https://www.trademe.co.nz/a/marketplace/antiques-collectable
s/coins/new-zealand-decimal/silver/listing/3178939153

The seller is trying to pass this coin off as a solid silver coin. The only reference to the coin I have ever been able to find is this which shows that it is a silver plated coin only worth a couple of dollars...

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/32847669709.html?spm=a2g0o.p
roductlist.0.0.6fd314ffg8OeMj&algo_pvid=25f919b9-47ce-44
26-b0ab-8ed5dbf1376b&algo_exp_id=25f919b9-47ce-4426-b0ab
-8ed5dbf1376b-11

Scammers usually place fake coins in plastic cases to make it harder for people to do the usual tests on them.

I think it's important for the TradeMe community to look out for fakes like this. Experienced people may be able to see the warning signs but there are lots of other people that won't know any better and buy thinking they are investing in bullion.

Ouch - thanks for the heads-up. Have you reported this "rear" item to TM?

translateltd - 2021-07-15 20:19:00
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jesus2000 wrote:

Fake coin being passed off as silver bullion.

Thanks for putting in the research.
It was more of a statement than a question, but let's see if the seller answers me...

enserf - 2021-07-15 20:40:00
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translateltd wrote:

Ouch - thanks for the heads-up. Have you reported this "rear" item to TM?

Yes I reported it last week when it was previously listed at $70 reserve and something like $250 buy now. Nothing seemed to of come of it though.

Just before the previous listing finished today I asked some questions. Here is the dialogue we had...

Q; Is this solid silver or just silver plated?

A; YES it is as it states .999 fine silver 1oz

Q; The only reference to the coin I have ever been able to find is this... https://www.aliexpress.com/item/32847669709.html?spm=a2g0o.p
roductlist.0.0.6fd314ffg8OeMj&algo_pvid=25f919b9-47ce-44
26-b0ab-8ed5dbf1376b&algo_exp_id=25f919b9-47ce-4426-b0ab
-8ed5dbf1376b-11

A; If you are worried about our coin dont buy it and we also have full refund if your not happy,these are sourced from a direct dealer that i have 110% trust and is why they are in a plastic sealed case, cheers

Q; Scammers usually place fake coins in plastic cases to make it harder for people to do the usual tests on them. I would be taking this up with your supplier if I was you.

A; Sorry to say your wrong these are real deal and like i said move on please if this is not for you ive sold a few now with no problems at all money back in full thanks Peter.Always one out there to spoil other auctions

jesus2000 - 2021-07-15 21:07:00
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enserf wrote:

Thanks for putting in the research.
It was more of a statement than a question, but let's see if the seller answers me...

Thanks. Although your question is hidden from view for me at least.

I think it's important that we all keep an eye out for this sort of thing. Last thing we want is for TM to become riddled with fake coins posing as the real things. Like at the moment I wouldn't risk buying silver or gold Crowns on TM as there seems to be so many fakes/copies of them in circulation.

Edited by jesus2000 at 9:27 pm, Thu 15 Jul

jesus2000 - 2021-07-15 21:16:00
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What a surprise. I’ve been blacklisted. Perhaps someone else could point them to this discussion with the Ali Express link showing it in the “professional slab”.

enserf - 2021-07-16 00:32:00
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Hi everyone. I have a 2000 Solomon mule still in the set but have noticed about a 5mm blemish above the Queen's head. Difficult to say if it is on the plastic or the coin. Just wondering if removing and attempting a very light clean would be a good idea or not? Is the value in the set intact or the coin separate? Thanks for your time.

cas40 - 2021-07-17 08:35:00
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jesus2000 wrote:

Yes I reported it last week when it was previously listed at $70 reserve and something like $250 buy now. Nothing seemed to of come of it though.

Just before the previous listing finished today I asked some questions. Here is the dialogue we had...

Q; Is this solid silver or just silver plated?

A; YES it is as it states .999 fine silver 1oz

Q; The only reference to the coin I have ever been able to find is this... https://www.aliexpress.com/item/32847669709.html?spm=a2g0o.p
roductlist.0.0.6fd314ffg8OeMj&algo_pvid=25f919b9-47ce-44
26-b0ab-8ed5dbf1376b&algo_exp_id=25f919b9-47ce-4426-b0ab
-8ed5dbf1376b-11

A; If you are worried about our coin dont buy it and we also have full refund if your not happy,these are sourced from a direct dealer that i have 110% trust and is why they are in a plastic sealed case, cheers

Q; Scammers usually place fake coins in plastic cases to make it harder for people to do the usual tests on them. I would be taking this up with your supplier if I was you.

A; Sorry to say your wrong these are real deal and like i said move on please if this is not for you ive sold a few now with no problems at all money back in full thanks Peter.Always one out there to spoil other auctions

Well I did find this on the RoyalMint web site: https://www.royalmint.com/our-coins/events/music-legends/que
en/queen-2020-uk-half-ounce-silver-proof-coin/

So maybe you're wrong?

athena2 - 2021-07-17 09:32:00
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athena2 wrote:


So maybe you're wrong?

I found that too. (I did do a little research before making an accusation on the auction.) But it is quite a different design. The amateur looking slab on the auction matched the one on Ali Express.

Edited by enserf at 9:52 am, Sat 17 Jul

enserf - 2021-07-17 09:52:00
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athena2 wrote:

Well I did find this on the RoyalMint web site: https://www.royalmint.com/our-coins/events/music-legends/que
en/queen-2020-uk-half-ounce-silver-proof-coin/

So maybe you're wrong?

Yes I'm familiar with that coin and it is a totally different coin. It even has the royal mint queen's head on the other side.

The one from AliExpress isn't even a copy of a known genuine silver coin. It is a cheap silver plated cion. Now being sold on TM as a silver bullion coin.

The specifications listed on AliExpress states 0.06ld, which equals 27.21 grams. So not even a troy oz (31.1g) or even a standard oz (28.34g) for that matter. Weighing the coin listed on TM would tell all. But of course it's inside the sealed plastic case, which would put most buyers off from breaking it open to weigh the coin. And that's exactly why these fake coins from scammers are placed in those plastic cases. It stops most buyers from doing the simple tests on them.

jesus2000 - 2021-07-17 10:21:00
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So others that may know about the UK Crown more than I do, could give their opinion on some of the trader's recently sold coins...

https://www.trademe.co.nz/a/marketplace/antiques-collectable
s/coins/new-zealand-decimal/silver/listing/3146798044

jesus2000 - 2021-07-17 10:29:00
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jesus2000 wrote:

So others that may know about the UK Crown more than I do, could give their opinion on some of the trader's recently sold coins...

https://www.trademe.co.nz/a/marketplace/antiques-collectable
s/coins/new-zealand-decimal/silver/listing/3146798044[/quote
]

The "silver crown" looks wrong for an official UK coin - wrong font for one thing. Looks more like this:
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/32357359438.html

translateltd - 2021-07-17 10:36:00
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cas40 wrote:

Hi everyone. I have a 2000 Solomon mule still in the set but have noticed about a 5mm blemish above the Queen's head. Difficult to say if it is on the plastic or the coin. Just wondering if removing and attempting a very light clean would be a good idea or not? Is the value in the set intact or the coin separate? Thanks for your time.

I'd recommend not touching it. Sometimes a speck of dust or moisture will get on a coin before it's sealed and it 'blooms' over a period of time afterwards. Trying to clean it off could just do more damage.

translateltd - 2021-07-17 10:37:00
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enserf wrote:

I found that too. (I did do a little research before making an accusation on the auction.) But it is quite a different design. The amateur looking slab on the auction matched the one on Ali Express.

The PCCB slabs are available from Aliexpress, as it seems are a few others of this seller's coins. I saw a sale of three "Royal Mint" coins on his FB, including a Zambia 1000 Kwacha and the St George English piece, both of which are available on AE for peanuts. Rings some alarm bells.

translateltd - 2021-07-17 10:48:00
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