THE NEW COIN CLUB
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| 10001 | Welcome to the Coin Club. We are an assortment of newbies and oldbies, amateurs and experts with questions and answers for oldbies and newbies, amateurs and experts in coin collecting, also known as numismatics. Whether you are just getting started, have been collecting for years or have simply found some old coins about the place that you’d like to sell, this is the place to ask your questions. No one has all the answers, and you may get five differing answers to the same question, yet each may be right in a manner of speaking, especially if opinions are involved. Opinions often vary. If you receive no answer to your query within 48 hours, please ask again. To post a photo: click on My Trade Me, then on "View My Trade Me". Then scroll way down toward the bottom to "My Photos" and click on that. Click "upload photo" and follow the instructions on-screen from there. Once done, you can copy-and-paste the link to your picture into a message posted here. justinian1 - 2021-02-01 18:27:00 |
| 10002 | I couldn't help but notice there's a whole bunch of GB trade dollars listed in the latest mowbray. Also a bunch on trademe too, but I'm not so sure about those ones! Maybe some bargains to be had, or will there be big overseas interest given the crazy market demand at the moment? Or maybe they will catch the attention of our Alistair! dtpapa - 2021-02-03 12:30:00 |
| 10003 | There was a news item about these the other day - don't they all have the designer's initials on them? A bit like the £2 coin "with the necklace": https://www.trademe.co.nz/a.aspx?id=2966909238 translateltd - 2021-02-06 12:19:00 |
| 10004 | translateltd wrote: lester36 - 2021-02-06 15:35:00 |
| 10005 | translateltd wrote:
Oh dear. If you Google them it brings up a bunch of news articles saying that they could be worth up to $10,000, just because someone tried putting one on Ebay for that. I guess this one on Trademe is a bargain in comparison. justinian1 - 2021-02-06 21:13:00 |
| 10006 | Another interesting result - how come I don't get bids like these? https://www.bidbud.co.nz/2962676487 translateltd - 2021-02-08 17:27:00 |
| 10007 | translateltd wrote: dunedinstamps - 2021-02-08 20:11:00 |
| 10008 | translateltd wrote:
a seller was having a big auction so probably attracted a large audience. Also given the situation maybe less people are using ebay and more coming to trademe to fulfil their numismatic needs, hence the high prices. Alistair was there also, paying big money for NZ silver coins! dtpapa - 2021-02-09 08:21:00 |
| 10009 | dtpapa wrote:
Very big money in some cases. I saw a 1986 NZ Royal Visit $1 go for over $100. justinian1 - 2021-02-09 09:14:00 |
| 10010 | translateltd wrote:
Newbie here (to coin selling) ...what are the little display envelopes in this auction called and where do you get them? Edited by shanreagh at 12:38 pm, Tue 9 Feb shanreagh - 2021-02-09 12:38:00 |
| 10011 | shanreagh wrote:
They're usually called 2x2s, though they're a bit old-school now. The plastic isn't all that great for coins, and the staples can be a problem when stacking them or putting them in slide trays for storage if you're not careful. Mylar flips (basically two 2x2 pockets joined at the top) are inert plastic, better for coins, no risk of scratching, etc. I don't see any on TM at the moment but they do come up occasionally, and dealers are likely to have them in stock: https://trademe.tmcdn.co.nz/photoserver/full/1484800660.jpg Edited by translateltd at 1:01 pm, Tue 9 Feb translateltd - 2021-02-09 12:56:00 |
| 10012 | Hi all I have a 1934 shilling I'm trying to sell has a couple of errors on it sean0gore - 2021-02-09 13:58:00 |
| 10013 | And also have a 1933 in very good condition sean0gore - 2021-02-09 14:00:00 |
| 10014 | sean0gore wrote:
https://help.trademe.co.nz/hc/en-us/articles/360007001492 jmma - 2021-02-09 15:55:00 |
| 10015 | Sorry I didnt realise I broke the rules sean0gore - 2021-02-09 16:01:00 |
| 10016 | I was just wanting some advice as I do not collect coins sorry everyone sean0gore - 2021-02-09 16:09:00 |
| 10017 | if you can post a few photos of the coins I'm sure the many experts here can provide you with some good advice! dtpapa - 2021-02-09 16:37:00 |
| 10018 | I dont know how u post pictures on here sean0gore - 2021-02-09 16:40:00 |
| 10019 | https://trademe.tmcdn.co.nz/photoserver/full/1483121898.jpg sean0gore - 2021-02-09 16:59:00 |
| 10020 | https://trademe.tmcdn.co.nz/photoserver/full/1483651691.jpg sean0gore - 2021-02-09 17:01:00 |
| 10021 | https://trademe.tmcdn.co.nz/photoserver/full/1483651722.jpg sean0gore - 2021-02-09 17:02:00 |
| 10022 | translateltd wrote:
Thanks for the advice. I will put a search up for Mylar flips or get them from a dealer. shanreagh - 2021-02-09 17:11:00 |
| 10023 | I'm not sure about the significance of the areas circled in the photo in terms of errors, although I am not an expert in that field. It looks like an average circulated 1934 shilling to me, others might have an opinion? dtpapa - 2021-02-09 17:12:00 |
| 10024 | dtpapa wrote: sean0gore - 2021-02-09 17:19:00 |
| 10025 | dtpapa wrote: sean0gore - 2021-02-09 17:22:00 |
| 10026 | translateltd wrote:
I think a lot of the plastic used in the 2x2s is Mylar nowadays (don't know if that applies to all brands though). There is also the adhesive version that doesn't need staples, but I've always been a bit dubious about adhesive based things for long term storage. justinian1 - 2021-02-09 17:43:00 |
| 10027 | justinian1 wrote:
I think you're right about the Mylar, and agree re the glue - not sure I'd be too happy about that either. translateltd - 2021-02-09 21:34:00 |
| 10028 | Was wondering what you guys think of this coin sean0gore - 2021-02-11 10:19:00 |
| 10029 | https://trademe.tmcdn.co.nz/photoserver/full/1486110511.jpg sean0gore - 2021-02-11 10:20:00 |
| 10030 | sean0gore wrote:
I think it could be closer to the camera :-) (All joking aside, it's difficult to make out much detail at that distance/resolution - can you try it in closer focus?) translateltd - 2021-02-11 10:59:00 |
| 10031 | I will try when I get home I struggled taking photos of it because of shine on it sean0gore - 2021-02-11 11:00:00 |
| 10032 | that's a little bit over the catalogue price! dtpapa - 2021-02-11 11:59:00 |
| 10033 | dtpapa wrote:
Who me sean0gore - 2021-02-11 12:23:00 |
| 10034 | dtpapa wrote:
Two keen bidders there! Pity we can't see more than the last ten bids, as it would be interesting to see when the third-highest dropped out. Edited by translateltd at 1:49 pm, Thu 11 Feb translateltd - 2021-02-11 13:48:00 |
| 10035 | Here are some new photos sean0gore - 2021-02-12 09:44:00 |
| 10036 | https://trademe.tmcdn.co.nz/photoserver/full/1486673851.jpg sean0gore - 2021-02-12 09:45:00 |
| 10037 | sean0gore wrote:
1933 and 1936 3pence, unless in true uncirculated condition are not worth a lot. Maybe up to $10 if in above average condition. However if you can find a 1935 3pence then you would definitely be in luck, 200-1000 dollars depending on condition! dtpapa - 2021-02-12 10:09:00 |
| 10038 | translateltd wrote:
or 2 very rich bidders in a battle of the egos! dtpapa - 2021-02-12 10:15:00 |
| 10039 | This isn't mine but I thought it interesting - I assume it's the same Hutchinson Bros who issued the encased farthing token listed in the John Bertrand catalogue as G.H7 (previously G#30): 2974637489 Could be an interesting adjunct to someone's special-purpose token collection. I'd be keen if I were still collecting. translateltd - 2021-02-13 07:58:00 |
| 10040 | translateltd wrote: alpha111 - 2021-02-20 11:30:00 |
| 10041 | alpha111 wrote:
couldn't agree with you more dude! I suspect it might have something to do with people not using ebay as much. I'm getting outbid a lot more than I used to! Also I've noticed that from time to time a really rich person comes onto the scene and buys everything and outbids everyone. I think people with lots of money get bored and at a whim they decide they want to be philatelists or numismatists, but after a while they get bored again and depart the scene. Actually I feel sorry for rich people in a way. I think Kurt Cobain summed it up best with this profound observation. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TJLUa3QjZOs Mind you, having said that money might make me quite happy! I wouldn't mind galivanting around the world visiting all the great auction houses and buying the most expensive and rare items. Then I would list them on trademe at even higher prices than I paid for them, not to sell them but just to let all my other fellow numismatists know that I have them and make them really envious! dtpapa - 2021-02-22 12:32:00 |
| 10042 | I was just perusing the NGC online price guide and noticed that the value of many NZ coins seems to have reduced significantly. It seems there's been a major adjustment to NZ coin prices. In some cases there is more grade specific price information? For example the 1936 Florin. Does the latest Bertrand catalogue reflect this? if these are now the going prices then I think quite a few coin collections are going to decrease quite a bit in value!. e.g. the 1948 sixpence is now listed as worth 85USD in MS65! here are some examples of the changes (or am I missing something?). https://www.ngccoin.com/price-guide/world/new-zealand-florin dtpapa - 2021-02-25 09:49:00 |
| 10043 | dtpapa wrote:
Interesting to see this. What's the source of their data? Do they monitor international sales or rely on volunteer input like KM? I guess for local purposes, a corpus of NZ data would be handy if available. translateltd - 2021-02-25 13:38:00 |
| 10044 | translateltd wrote:
I'd say it is anyone's guess how they came up with those prices! it does mention NumisMaster website in the notes, whatever that is. Anyway it seems a rather radical shakeup of the prices. Although I've always suspected the catalogue price for NZ coins was a little on the high side, you certainly did not see them go in auctions for anywhere near those prices on most occasions. Maybe if it was an especially nice example. bummer really, a lot of NZ coins I was self congratulating myself on for getting at a bargain price don't look quite so good now. And let's not mention the ones I paid too much for in the first place (mostly at noble auction) ! dtpapa - 2021-02-26 08:46:00 |
| 10045 | This sounds silly but nearly 40 years ago I had a third share of a NZ Day proof dollar which we sold for way over $300. In 2021 dollar terms this would be at least $1100 (using the CPI index). I got one last year on TM for a pittance. alpha111 - 2021-02-26 13:23:00 |
| 10046 | This months Australasian Coin and Banknote magazine has a wee snippet on Carthaginian gold staters. Two choice examples just sold for US$12,000 and US$10,200 . The article stated that In 2016 choice MS examples sold for upwards of US$35,000. alpha111 - 2021-02-26 13:25:00 |
| 10047 | alpha111 wrote:
I remember prices running high through to the early 80s. The catalogues from the time make interesting reading. translateltd - 2021-02-26 14:38:00 |
| 10048 | dtpapa wrote:
Numismaster is an online database that is (or was) run by KM, and I believe they essentially use(d) periodic database dumps to generate their catalogues in more recent years. Input was mainly by volunteers, and their in-house updates based on submissions by contributors (including, ahem, yours truly until I gave up on them) were very hit-and-miss. In any year they could ignore up to half of my updates (in fact one year they left them all out, even though I met their submission deadline), so combine volunteer input with scattergun data entry ... translateltd - 2021-02-26 14:42:00 |
| 10049 | translateltd wrote:
thanks wasn't aware of this, seems to be very little about it on the internet, or it is very hard to find. The interesting bit is the grade specific prices. I thought it would be of interest to others but apparently not judging by the lack of other replies. There are some significant discrepancies with the Bertand prices which I'd have thought would be a concern to NZ collectors. But perhaps not, hopefully NGC might make another adjustment (up!) if there is enough negative opinion about it! dtpapa - 2021-02-28 10:26:00 |
| 10050 | There are always differences between international prices and home market prices, though, since coins are usually most popular in their country of issue. Discrepancies between KM and JB shouldn't be too surprising on that basis. What I do have a problem with is what the grades in KM actually mean: are they US grades for every country, or are they non-US (i.e. less inflated) grades for other countries? If a New Zealand coin is priced at X dollars in "EF" in KM, for example, does that mean the price relates to a VF-GVF example in our neck of the woods? It's complicated more by the fact that at least some prices are fed in from the home market, so if I send in an EF price from here, they'll log it as a (US) EF price in Numismaster, which pushes the price up for slightly lower-grade examples, and so on. Bit of a minefield. translateltd - 2021-02-28 11:35:00 |
