Rotorua lakes council - what a mess
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| 51 | market1 wrote: who holds them accountable? Seems like one big back slapping exercise on their part. The old ‘I will pay you more if you support me’ bs Edited by lakeview3 at 10:12 pm, Tue 22 Jun lakeview3 - 2021-06-22 22:12:00 |
| 52 | pico42 wrote: forget it pico, she’s just trolling. sparkychap - 2021-06-22 22:30:00 |
| 53 | lakeview3 wrote:
No, you never said that rates doubled. But what you did say is incorrect. And you know it is incorrect. It has been explained to you before. Either you still don’t understand, in which case your comments come from a position of ignorance, or you do understand it, choose not to, and are simply happy to lie your way through these posts. Which is it? In either case, your contribution to this thread is of little value. pico42 - 2021-06-22 23:15:00 |
| 54 | pico42 wrote: do you work for the council or something? That might explain the need to resort condescending put downs?? I started the thread and it’s my opinion of which I am entitled to view. You on the other hand don’t need to contribute anything to the thread and even less so since you don’t live here and clearly have no idea what our council isn’t capable of. Bet you’d be just stoked if they contemplated wasting 80K on importing mud from Korea for a festival only to give the tickets away for free to school kids….we still never got to the bottom of whose relly started the company to run that festival only for it to make a loss and then the ‘company’ close down shortly afterwards….a loss of over 400K to the ratepayers. https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/103552677/controversial-mud https://www.stuff.co.nz/business/99663714/ratepayers-stuck-w I best not mention ‘the sculpture’ Edited by lakeview3 at 11:33 pm, Tue 22 Jun lakeview3 - 2021-06-22 23:23:00 |
| 55 | And if we had any doubts about where these stupid ideas are hatched, look no further…..secret meetings So much for democracy…..this is the kind of c**p we get for our rates $$ lakeview3 - 2021-06-22 23:52:00 |
| 56 | Panuku which is part of Auckland City have been trying for some years to build an apartment block on Dominion Rd. WTF is the council doing working as a developer and why haven’t they been able to get the development through resource consent which is also Auckland Council? princess52 - 2021-06-23 01:02:00 |
| 57 | lakeview3 wrote: Nothing to do with rising house values. sparkychap - 2021-06-23 07:03:00 |
| 58 | lakeview3 wrote: Nothing to do with rising house values. sparkychap - 2021-06-23 07:03:00 |
| 59 | sparkychap wrote: I never said it was, but it’s got a lot to do with waste of ratepayers money. lakeview3 - 2021-06-23 07:37:00 |
| 60 | sparkychap wrote: I never said it was but it’s got a lot to do with waste of ratepayers money. So disrespectful of them whrn many of us are out their scratching a living together to pay for our rates while they hold secret meetings and throw the money wantonly around on stupid ideas. lakeview3 - 2021-06-23 07:39:00 |
| 61 | princess52 wrote: unbelievable incompetence and yes why are they pretending to be a developer? lakeview3 - 2021-06-23 07:39:00 |
| 62 | lakeview3 wrote:
Yes you did. You said: Are you now retracting the above statement? pico42 - 2021-06-23 08:35:00 |
| 63 | lakeview3 wrote: So you agree that rising house prices does not equal rising rates. Good, glad we got that settled. Until the next time. sparkychap - 2021-06-23 08:38:00 |
| 64 | pico42 wrote: I've lived in the same house for 20 years, my rates have more than doubled in that time. bitsnpieces2020 - 2021-06-23 08:40:00 |
| 65 | pico42 wrote: sorry why are you in the thread? Did you want to comment on the Rotorua lakes council? no? lakeview3 - 2021-06-23 08:47:00 |
| 66 | sparkychap wrote: sorry if you didn’t understand my post….. lakeview3 - 2021-06-23 08:53:00 |
| 67 | lakeview3 wrote: So why not explain what you meant by "In thr (sic) meantime the house values keep going up so they can keep charging us higher rates for the same s**t service" then? sparkychap - 2021-06-23 08:54:00 |
| 68 | bitsnpieces2020 wrote: my one I bought in 2000 the rates were $980, just looked them up again and they are now $3500. Incomes haven’t increased by that much in the same time period (unless the person works for RLC obviously lol) Should we place bets on when the RLC will finally fix that nasty pothole at the corner of fairy springs road and lake road - everyone knows that one! Maybe they could have a ‘secret meeting’ about it and surprise us! ???? I mean it’s only been there a couple of years! lakeview3 - 2021-06-23 08:57:00 |
| 69 | sparkychap wrote: if you can’t work it out then meh….anyway I have work to do….you might need to find someone else to have a go at…. lakeview3 - 2021-06-23 08:58:00 |
| 70 | lakeview3 wrote: lol the usual response from you when challenged. All good, We all understand your error. sparkychap - 2021-06-23 09:17:00 |
| 71 | lakeview3 wrote:
At the moment I am in here pulling you up on your falsehoods. pico42 - 2021-06-23 12:09:00 |
| 72 | sparkychap wrote: sorry you can’t understand that lakeview3 - 2021-06-23 14:04:00 |
| 73 | pico42 wrote: oh yeah what ‘falsehoods’? lakeview3 - 2021-06-23 14:04:00 |
| 74 | Someone who is happy to admit when they are wrong, and learn from it, shows strength of character. A lot of the rates rises might not be the fault of council. They have had further responsibilities foisted on them by central government than they once would have had. apollo11 - 2021-06-23 14:34:00 |
| 75 | lakeview3 wrote: lol the usual response from you when challenged. All good, We all understand your error. sparkychap - 2021-06-23 15:00:00 |
| 76 | apollo11 wrote: where did they get the extra money for the payrises for the 7 deputies? Where did they get the money for the mud festival and sculpture? (Oh don’t worry us ratepayers only paid for some of the mud festival….the other taxpayers from around NZ paid the rest!) ???? lakeview3 - 2021-06-23 15:15:00 |
| 77 | sparkychap wrote: as usual you are now making false claims and personal attacks and not sticking to the topic. lakeview3 - 2021-06-23 15:15:00 |
| 78 | lakeview3 wrote:
Festivals and sculptures might come under this: https://childyouthwellbeing.govt.nz/actions/actions-outcome/ apollo11 - 2021-06-23 15:25:00 |
| 79 | apollo11 wrote: good try lakeview3 - 2021-06-23 15:28:00 |
| 80 | lakeview3 wrote: apollo11 - 2021-06-23 15:54:00 |
| 81 | apollo11 wrote:
And gladly accepted on behalf of their bosses, the ratepayers. How was that approved. Maybe councils adopt government responsibilities as it increases councils portfolio of things to do. It is enabling councils to get bigger. market1 - 2021-06-23 15:55:00 |
| 82 | lakeview3 wrote: what false claims am I making? sparkychap - 2021-06-23 15:59:00 |
| 83 | market1 wrote: apollo11 - 2021-06-23 16:01:00 |
| 84 | lakeview3 wrote:
This one pico42 - 2021-06-23 16:16:00 |
| 85 | pico42 wrote: I stand by everything I say. lakeview3 - 2021-06-23 16:41:00 |
| 86 | lakeview3 wrote: Do you stand by this statement? sparkychap - 2021-06-23 17:26:00 |
| 87 | sparkychap wrote: yep I do Now don’t you have something better to do than keep asking me the same question? ???? bit stalkery….. lakeview3 - 2021-06-23 17:52:00 |
| 88 | lakeview3 wrote: So they got pay rises, these 7 newly appointed deputy CEOs? sparkychap - 2021-06-23 17:55:00 |
| 89 | sparkychap wrote: read the article, they are already working in the council. Why do we need 7 deputies? What other council has more than one deputy or any? What accountability do these people have and to whom? (dont worry I know the answer to that one lol) Now maybe move on to hounding someone else unless ups have something valuable to add to the thread. lakeview3 - 2021-06-23 18:07:00 |
| 90 | lakeview3 wrote: So they all got pay rises? sparkychap - 2021-06-23 18:08:00 |
| 91 | This message was deleted. kiwilandchch - 2021-06-23 18:16:00 |
| 92 | lakeview3 wrote: Sounds like you have a problem with central government more than local council. The homeless and the roading never mind the crims all being let out of jail are central government issues. 3tomany - 2021-06-23 19:32:00 |
| 93 | lakeview3 wrote: Looks like you have a good National MP on your side. 3tomany - 2021-06-23 19:39:00 |
| 94 | 3tomany wrote: both i think lakeview3 - 2021-06-23 19:49:00 |
| 95 | 3tomany wrote: what a shame he didn’t do much while he had the power to and in fact many of these issues with the homeless are a direct result of some of the lack of action to address the housing situation way back then Edited by lakeview3 at 7:50 pm, Wed 23 Jun lakeview3 - 2021-06-23 19:49:00 |
| 96 | lakeview3 wrote: Looking back there realy was no housing problem back then compared to what we have now. 3tomany - 2021-06-24 04:41:00 |
| 97 | 3tomany wrote: that’s true, however I have been saying it for years. I saw it coming because I could see the people living in garages, portacabins and caravans long before other people. If we flood the country with 500,000 people the people on the low end get turfed out so the newcomers can fit in. Of course I got poo poohed on here because most people drive around with blinkers on or don’t lower themselves to go through suburbs in lower socio economic groups. It’s the old 10 in the bed story, there isn’t room for 10 and someone has to fall out. The trouble is, when you continually marginalise people, eventually they get past the point of salvation because they slip into addiction. Can hardly blame them really can you? So now we are left with motels full of previously displaced people. And I tell you what, we aren’t going to rehome these people any time soon. I would suggest most are now incapable of looking after a house, or paying their own power bill. What got us here? Greed. That’s what. Inequality is now so rampant that nothing will turn back time. Throwing money at those people will not work. Most are lost. The better thing to do is to educate children snd focus on them. Tske back some of the ill gotten gains of the older generation and put it into the future. THAT is the only way forward. lakeview3 - 2021-06-24 06:57:00 |
| 98 | I heard a guy on ZB who is a housing expert and he said the reasons we are short of houses are varied from immigration to land banking but by far the biggest cause is that there are less people living in a house on a per house basis. I must say i never considered that and when i think of my kids they all live in 4 bedroom houses with just them and their partner and one has a child. None of them have a flat mate. 3tomany - 2021-06-24 07:58:00 |
| 99 | 3tomany wrote: yes that is part of the problem. It’s lack of planning regarding population demographics. For example in my half of the street there are 17 houses, and I worked out there are 1.76 people per house. This is mainly because it is full of older people living in 3-5 bedroom houses, who may live elsewhere IF there was enough smaller modern low maintenance safe places to live. Only 3 children live in those 17 houses. So yes there is a ‘lack of houses’ - the wrong houses. There are 6 empty houses in the street. And yes there is land banking, but it’s also the councils not allowing people to subdivide their properties. If they allowed this is would be a gradual increase and would not put the same strain on infrastructure like a large subdivision would. But no, our council and probably many others are too busy patting themselves on the back and giving each other pay increases to do anything sensible. Edited by lakeview3 at 8:45 am, Thu 24 Jun lakeview3 - 2021-06-24 08:40:00 |
| 100 | kiwilandchch wrote:
Who will build these special houses? tygertung - 2021-06-24 09:28:00 |
