| 51 | I feel sorry for all the Motel Owners who paid a lot of money to buy their business providing accommodation to genuine tourists and visitors now watching the reputation of the whole Motel industry in New Zealand sliding into the gutter...???? |
| 52 | pcle wrote:
I thought the Labour Government was elected to fix the housing crisis. All they do is make things far worse. More interested in bringing in apartheid than fixing the bureaucratic mess stopping house building. "bringing in apartheid"?? that's your best yet, pickle! sparkychap - 2021-05-10 08:52:00 |
| 53 | mkr_ahearn wrote:
Anyone got a digital printer? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gVUlbpZS0Rc
or this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2G_7U54wtP4 Seems the idea is not only for the homeless and poor there are upscaled and completed in 24 hours for sale in California. 3b 2bath 285,000 mkr_ahearn - 2021-05-10 10:29:00 |
| 54 | mkr_ahearn wrote:
Seems the idea is not only for the homeless and poor there are upscaled and completed in 24 hours for sale in California. 3b 2bath 285,000 You can 3D print steaks, doesn't mean anyone would want to eat them.... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=238yRdb0niw sparkychap - 2021-05-10 10:45:00 |
| 55 | sparkychap wrote:
You can 3D print steaks, doesn't mean anyone would want to eat them.... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=238yRdb0niw Not suggesting you eat the house mkr_ahearn - 2021-05-10 11:19:00 |
| 56 | lovelurking wrote:
I feel sorry for all the Motel Owners who paid a lot of money to buy their business providing accommodation to genuine tourists and visitors now watching the reputation of the whole Motel industry in New Zealand sliding into the gutter...????
Yes Lovelurking I agree with you.
They work Hard for what they do.
I worked in A Big Motor Inn in Rotorua once as Mini Bar Assistant & one morning I opened The front door of unit & water poured out the door. Someone left a tap in Bathroom on with Plug in basin. Edited by ferrit47 at 12:17 pm, Mon 10 May ferrit47 - 2021-05-10 12:07:00 |
| 57 | lovelurking wrote:
I feel sorry for all the Motel Owners who paid a lot of money to buy their business providing accommodation to genuine tourists and visitors now watching the reputation of the whole Motel industry in New Zealand sliding into the gutter...???? The motel owners are being well paid for housing MSD clients.
Many of the motels were run down & losing money & these clients have kept them from going under.
Some moteliers are even buying rentals & then claiming the full motel rate from the Govt.
The way they say they are tricked into booking MSD clients doesn’t add up.
I don’t feel sorry for them at all. traykuku - 2021-05-10 12:47:00 |
| 58 | traykuku wrote:
The motel owners are being well paid for housing MSD clients.
Many of the motels were run down & losing money & these clients have kept them from going under.
Some moteliers are even buying rentals & then claiming the full motel rate from the Govt.
The way they say they are tricked into booking MSD clients doesn’t add up.
I don’t feel sorry for them at all. I think you misunderstood my post...It’s the ones who aren’t renting to the Government I feel sorry for. |
| 59 | Having re read #51 I realise I wasn’t very clear about where my sympathies were...Sorry about that. |
| 60 | The comments from Steve Chadwick inferring there isn’t an issue because there are still rooms available for tourists frustrates the hell out of me, is she not hearing that tourists aren’t coming because the hotels are full of MSD clients??? Of course there are vacancies when no one wants to visit our town due to the homeless situation! rowlf - 2021-05-10 13:19:00 |
| 61 | rowlf wrote:
The comments from Steve Chadwick inferring there isn’t an issue because there are still rooms available for tourists frustrates the hell out of me, is she not hearing that tourists aren’t coming because the hotels are full of MSD clients??? Of course there are vacancies when no one wants to visit our town due to the homeless situation!
Maybe the tourists aren’t coming because they just aren’t coming.
I think MSD clients are being used as a bit of a scapegoat.
Tourism is down in all areas.
Domestic tourism is on it’s usual seasonal decline coupled with no international visitors. traykuku - 2021-05-10 13:53:00 |
| 62 | Just wait until Labours new taxation/deductible rules kick in. Nobody will be able to afford the new rents anywhere. fxx99 - 2021-05-10 14:18:00 |
| 63 | lakeview3 wrote:
Yeah and why the heck can’t thr govt just bang up hundreds of transportables and plonk them on some land. Connect the basics and worry about drives and garages later. I am kinda sick and tired of all this BS tbh. Just flipping DO something. DO IT! . Great idea... but of course that sort of “housing develop,ent” would not be suitable in the suburb I live in.. perhaps they could site it across town from here..!! andrew1954 - 2021-05-10 15:13:00 |
| 64 | Further to my posts on the 3d printed houses for homeless, poor and now by design it seems it has been suggested already here as a way to fix the housing crisis. It could however crash the building industry, that would be a long way out as I see it and there are concerns over it affecting the housing get rich scheme. Germany, USA, Netherlands, Ireland, Mexico, Russia, Dubai are all building these houses with approval. Germany has one that is three storeys. Looks to me like this is where the world is headed are we going to ignore it in NZ? https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/new-zealand/2021/03/warning-3
d-printed-homes-could-fix-housing-crisis-but-devastate-const
ruction-industry.html March 2021 mkr_ahearn - 2021-05-10 15:51:00 |
| 65 | mkr_ahearn wrote:
Further to my posts on the 3d printed houses for homeless, poor and now by design it seems it has been suggested already here as a way to fix the housing crisis. It could however crash the building industry, that would be a long way out as I see it and there are concerns over it affecting the housing get rich scheme. Germany, USA, Netherlands, Ireland, Mexico, Russia, Dubai are all building these houses with approval. Germany has one that is three storeys. Looks to me like this is where the world is headed are we going to ignore it in NZ? https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/new-zealand/2021/03/warning-3
d-printed-homes-could-fix-housing-crisis-but-devastate-const
ruction-industry.html March 2021
It's not that big a deal. The house will still need a floor slab, doors/windows, roof structure, wiring, plumbing, joinery, gib board etc etc. The concrete slurry they use might need extra reinforcement in NZ too.
As a comparison, the walls of a SIPS panel house can be put up in 1-3 days. apollo11 - 2021-05-10 17:02:00 |
| 66 | mkr_ahearn wrote:
Seems the idea is not only for the homeless and poor there are upscaled and completed in 24 hours for sale in California. 3b 2bath 285,000 But that's not actually what those houses are costing delivered: Pricing
​
Turnkey Price + Unit Price $285,000 + Site Assessment $1,000
+ Utilities & Drainage - starting at $15,000
+ Crane / Heavy Equipment - starting at $6,500
+ Project Management - starting at $4,500
+ General conditions - starting at $7,500
+ Permits - starting at $16,000
+ Entitlements - starting at $15,000
+ Foundation - starting at $25,000
+ Onsite labor - starting at $50,000
+ Truck delivery - starting at $5,500 Total (excl. land) Starting At $431,000 USD so convert to NZD and its approx. $ 600,000 for a 130m2 house. sparkychap - 2021-05-10 17:25:00 |
| 67 | sparkychap wrote:
But that's not actually what those houses are costing delivered: Pricing
​
Turnkey Price + Unit Price $285,000 + Site Assessment $1,000
+ Utilities & Drainage - starting at $15,000
+ Crane / Heavy Equipment - starting at $6,500
+ Project Management - starting at $4,500
+ General conditions - starting at $7,500
+ Permits - starting at $16,000
+ Entitlements - starting at $15,000
+ Foundation - starting at $25,000
+ Onsite labor - starting at $50,000
+ Truck delivery - starting at $5,500 Total (excl. land) Starting At $431,000 USD so convert to NZD and its approx. $ 600,000 for a 130m2 house. Seems expensive by US standard. blogzy - 2021-05-10 17:40:00 |
| 68 | blogzy wrote:
Seems expensive by US standard. Depends where in US mkr_ahearn - 2021-05-10 17:58:00 |
| 69 | blogzy wrote:
Seems expensive by US standard. Any comparisons with the US are fraught with complexity. For a start, in the year to March 2021 they completed 1.5m homes (up from around 1..3m the year before). https://www.census.gov/construction/nrc/pdf/newresconst.pdf New Zealand total number of houses is somewhere around 1.6m. So they are building nearly as many new homes and we have total stock in NZ.... sparkychap - 2021-05-10 17:59:00 |
