sparkychap wrote:

Yep - I did this once on a 2 storey board and batten house. Never again.

It's a heap of work. I ended up with two large rubbish bags of paint that I peeled off our bungalow. Luckily the first paint of acrylic over the original enamel had been a rushed job, so all of the later coats of acrylic peeled off in sheets if it was warmed with a heat gun. Eventually I will get too old to do all of this maintenance and renovation and the wife will have to trade me in for a younger model.

apollo11 - 2021-03-19 15:35:00

apollo11 wrote:

It's a heap of work. I ended up with two large rubbish bags of paint that I peeled off our bungalow. Luckily the first paint of acrylic over the original enamel had been a rushed job, so all of the later coats of acrylic peeled off in sheets if it was warmed with a heat gun. Eventually I will get too old to do all of this maintenance and renovation and the wife will have to trade me in for a younger model.

Sell her shoes and hire her an odd job man.

sparkychap - 2021-03-19 15:53:00

lakeview3 wrote:

so we have a whole crew of young painters, who can barely speak English.....sounds like potential exploitation to me. Again I ask the question, how on earth did they manage to immigrate here?

they could be language students who, after completing the 6 mth language course get a 1 year working visa to find a job. Some are only required to attend 3 days out of 5 of the language school. I personally don't care if my painter cant recite Shakespeare as long as he isn't colour blind LOL. Skill shortage is shocking in NZ-look at the list-there were even bakers there last I looked.

evoalg - 2021-03-19 19:24:00

evoalg wrote:

they could be language students who, after completing the 6 mth language course get a 1 year working visa to find a job. Some are only required to attend 3 days out of 5 of the language school. I personally don't care if my painter cant recite Shakespeare as long as he isn't colour blind LOL. Skill shortage is shocking in NZ-look at the list-there were even bakers there last I looked.

maybe if we actually trained people eh.....I don’t really believe it I am afraid. Was talking to 2 chefs late last year who had lost their jobs with covid, both New Zealand citizens- I used to work with one in the 1980s, and one was doing maintenance work, the other was jobless. These people could definitely bake bread and other things. You can’t tell me all the chefs in Queenstown and other places can’t do these jobs.

Edited by lakeview3 at 7:34 pm, Fri 19 Mar

lakeview3 - 2021-03-19 19:31:00

Often its just plain and simple training on the job. How do we train Parents to raise kids who know they must get up in the morning and be prepared to put in a solid days work?
Have you tried to get a Plumber or Gasfitter lately? lmao.... we will wait at least two weeks to have a house lot of Gas pipes replaced. and new appliances connected.
And its NOTHING to do with the pay.

Edited by heather902 at 7:42 pm, Fri 19 Mar

heather902 - 2021-03-19 19:42:00

heather902 wrote:

Often its just plain and simple training on the job. How do we train Parents to raise kids who know they must get up in the morning and be prepared to put in a solid days work?
Have you tried to get a Plumber or Gasfitter lately? lmao.... we will wait at least two weeks to have a house lot of Gas pipes replaced. and new appliances connected.
And its NOTHING to do with the pay.

auckland has always been like that. Was the same in the 1990s

lakeview3 - 2021-03-19 20:00:00

lakeview3 wrote:

there are plenty of kiwis who could/would do that. IF they were paid properly. I mean why is it that manual labour is so poorly paid???? It’s way harder than sitting at some desk punching stuff into a computer and many other jobs.

As for the ‘I have no proof’ not that specific outfit, no, but there is ample proof this is a common practice amongst migrant employees/employers.

If you are still following the national party mantra that it’s not happening well it’s time to start reading. The news is riddled with cases and those are just the ones we hear about. I gave examples I had come across locally and got ridiculed by many on here......and what do ya know, turns out it was rife.

As for the paint, why do you think I like brick so much and would avoid a weatherboard house like the plague? ????

many people sit at desks and work for minimum wage

catbrat - 2021-03-21 12:08:00

msigg wrote:

No the only problem was to stop immigration 10 years ago, but no it didn't happen and now you have this problem. That is it in one.

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That's it in a nutshell. introducing 750000 people into a system that was only coping with an existing 4000000.
kerassy

mcgolly - 2021-03-21 20:47:00

Emergency Housing Costs Six Times More.
https://thebfd.co.nz/2021/03/22/emergency-housing-costs-six-
times-more-than-private-rent-subsidies/

Oh dear. Lucky it's only tax payers money then.

pcle - 2021-03-22 11:28:00

That's terrible + predictable Just read an article in Stuff on a woman who brought a bus to live in. I'd like to think they have considered the costs of granting people money to own their own van to live in as an alternative to motel life. It might be the best option right now.

sweetgurl108 - 2021-03-22 17:42:00