cube_guy wrote:

Imagine if someone had said this exact same thing to you when you saying how you didn't think a sound bar was worth it to you over normal sound from TV speakers. I am sure if someone had worded a reply to you like this, you would have been totally ok with it.

Spot on.

sw20 - 2020-11-11 14:30:00

Good for you if you have a use for old and out of date hardware, but your argument about Facebook is like me complaining about not being able to run Battlefield properly on my gaming PC because I have a graphics card from 10 years ago. Its not Battlefields fault that my hardware is not up to the task.

cube_guy - 2020-11-11 15:14:00

It isn't Facebooks fault that Facebook is badly programmed, it is the user's fault for not having a brand new PC. Just don't use Facebook, simple. The rest of the internet works fine.

tygertung - 2020-11-11 16:18:00

tygertung wrote:

It isn't Facebooks fault that Facebook is badly programmed, it is the user's fault for not having a brand new PC. Just don't use Facebook, simple. The rest of the internet works fine.

who says its badly programmed. They probably have hundreds if not thousands of programmers, and i would hazard multiple levels of code peer review. Ultimately it's your problem for having CRAP hardware. Brand new PCs are most definitely not required for Facebook

king1 - 2020-11-11 17:02:00

Why do you have to be so horrible to anyone who doesn't have the latest high end PC? every other website in the whole world runs just fine, it is just Facebook which keeps getting Firefox "Unresponsive script" errors.

tygertung - 2020-11-11 17:47:00

sw20 wrote:

That must be as enjoyable as driving a 1970s British car on a winter's morning.

That is a skill derived from real living - men were men and everyone else was a wimp. Reminds me of my 1986 AlfaSud 902 with a hole in the drivers floor big enough to throw garbage out at speed. Always had cold feet. Damned thing collapsed on the M6 and cost me a weeks wages to have towed.

tegretol - 2020-11-11 18:09:00

tygertung wrote:

Why do you have to be so horrible to anyone who doesn't have the latest high end PC? every other website in the whole world runs just fine, it is just Facebook which keeps getting Firefox "Unresponsive script" errors.

I give up... you should probably notify facebook as there will be a billion odd other facebook users having the same problem

Edited by king1 at 6:51 pm, Wed 11 Nov

king1 - 2020-11-11 18:40:00

tygertung wrote:

Why do you have to be so horrible to anyone who doesn't have the latest high end PC? every other website in the whole world runs just fine, it is just Facebook which keeps getting Firefox "Unresponsive script" errors.

Try a different browser. Tech tips 101.

nice_lady - 2020-11-11 19:12:00

I dont know how old my ssd is but i know what kills hardware. i had broken hardware on my 1.3 duron over and over and then the next pc i built also.
What kills hardware is a power supply thats not 100% Rolls roice aircraft turbine like bullet proof quality. I paid what ever the price was for a Antec High current pro. its up to 94% power efficient = my power bill per year has also halfed = its paid for it self 100 times.
That was not the reason i spend loads of money on a power supply. The REASON IS POWER FLUCTUATION . cheap psu make dirty power and if i recall right my duron you could see 3 volt voltage fluctuate 2.6 to 3.3 volt = the power kills hardware = explains why hardrive dvd rom everything failed premature after about a 1 to 2 years.
My SSD is the one from samsung with 10 year warranty = they dont make that no more with 10 years.

intrade - 2020-11-12 11:18:00

I would love to hear you think you have halved your power bill over a year by getting a better power supply. Sure, a better PSU will provide "cleaner" power to your components, but a system that is consuming 400W is still consuming 400W, regardless of what PSU you use.

cube_guy - 2020-11-12 11:58:00

MY personal WD Blue 250gb ssd which I will be swapping out for an 870 QVO Samsung 1 tb soon reports from HDsentinel...

Performance 100% Excellent
Health 100% Excellent

Power on time 211days, 5 hours or 5065 hrs
Estimated remaining life time; More than 1000 days
Lifetime writes; 4.96TB

The status is perfect.

muppet_slayer - 2020-11-13 04:02:00

Samsung SSD 830. Bought 2012, 7.5 years runtime (66,000 hrs). Still healthy according to various checks. Used as a boot drive, so most everything else ends up on another hard drive. I'll be building a new rig soon so will probably retire it then rather than carrying it over (hello NVMe).

daikiwi - 2020-11-15 00:42:00

tygertung wrote:

I'm running an ASUS 1215P. It still goes pretty fast as it's got a 1.6 GHz processor and 2 GB of DDR3 RAM. I'm running Lubuntu Linux 20.04 primarily. It does also have Windows 7 on it, but that runs too slow now. It might go faster if I reinstall Windows? I'm not sure if Windows 10 would run faster, but I suspect not.

I don't think I'll change the HDD just yet, maybe I will try a SSD next year as funds allow, but not sure how much performance difference it would make.

I have an Asus 1215b which I still keep around for casual use, but have maxed it out to 8GB ram. That's a cheap-ish but definite improvement. Later on putting a cheap SSD also made a significant difference. Downside - you have to damned near totally disassemble the machine to swap the hard drive - real pain. It is not worth changing to Win10 from Win 7 on that machine. Really not. Even with an SSD.

daikiwi - 2020-11-15 01:00:00

That's funny because there are a lot of Windows fans on this board who insist that Windows 10 runs no slower than Windows 7, and that Windows 7 runs now slower than Windows XP.

tygertung - 2020-11-15 06:27:00

nice_lady wrote:

Never had that bloat issue.

It's when you get the slow downs...registry, sys files, profile, clogged up with crap.
Go look - manually....there will be old files lurking from stuff you uninstalled.

You can't avoid it, it's how Windows works.

Edited by lythande1 at 7:52 am, Sun 15 Nov

lythande1 - 2020-11-15 07:52:00

lythande1 wrote:

It's when you get the slow downs...registry, sys files, profile, clogged up with crap.
Go look - manually....there will be old files lurking from stuff you uninstalled.

You can't avoid it, it's how Windows works.

Yes I know that happens but it's never caused any kind of 'slow down' on my systems.

nice_lady - 2020-11-15 08:05:00

nice_lady wrote:

Yes I know that happens but it's never caused any kind of 'slow down' on my systems.

same, usually there are other less speculative reasons for slowdowns ie HDD issues, malware, multiple AVs etc

king1 - 2020-11-15 09:49:00

cube_guy wrote:

I would love to hear you think you have halved your power bill over a year by getting a better power supply. Sure, a better PSU will provide "cleaner" power to your components, but a system that is consuming 400W is still consuming 400W, regardless of what PSU you use.

ok i had to read thru it again and yes correct it did half but not because of that single thing. i also dumped the freezer for a more efficient one and a few other things. to cause it to half . but its noticeably lower as that was the first action i took to cut the horrendous charges we have in northland for power.
i pay 15$ in power bills if the power is off at the mains switch and my power bill unless my workshop uses is about 50 bux at the cost of 33 cent per kw houer of used units that does not include the 15 bux i pay a month on top for connection daily charges. My computer runs 24/7 so it does add up noticeably if there is a drop at the end of month bill when i built it like this. used to be 80 bux a month with lower power prices before the changes so thats how it about halfed. also i dont have hot water electric. i use lpg and a hotwater wood boiler. with 11 hactare of totara trees making perfect sense to have almost free wood . chainsaw fuel costs quite a bit .. so its not free.

Edited by intrade at 10:32 am, Sun 15 Nov

intrade - 2020-11-15 10:25:00

I had a weird thing happen to my ssd in post 61. I put it in my desktop, an compaq presario cq3420an and it did not like it. Hdsentinel reported 80% performance and 100% health. Where did my 20% performance go? Sentinel also said something about needing to update the disk controller driver. Clearly something was not right.
I just put the old hard drive back in and updated it which brought it's own set of difficulties. My problems had just begun. I decided to update the presario (happened to be the 2004 version, before update was running 1909), what the hell now my taskbar is see through and so is the start menu, all see though and then the windows start glitching and disappearing. LOL I'm having fun here!
I traced it to the graphics driver, I have to face facts that the windows 7 presario is at the end of it's travels running 10, they keep changing things and now the graphics driver is glitching. I however fixed the problem by turning of transparency effect off, problem gone. I have to put up with solid color taskbar and start menu but thats ok if the problem is gone which it is. Cool there was a way forward. It can still run 10 for now.

muppet_slayer - 2020-11-15 14:28:00

plays video and on youtube and runs things like tvnz ondemand sweet as so I think the driver is still alright.

muppet_slayer - 2020-11-15 14:31:00