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Welcome to the Coin Club. We are an assortment of newbies and oldbies, amateurs and experts with questions and answers for oldbies and newbies, amateurs and experts in coin collecting, also known as numismatics. Whether you are just getting started, have been collecting for years or have simply found some old coins about the place that you’d like to sell, this is the place to ask your questions.

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translateltd - 2020-08-24 11:31:00
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kiwichampagne wrote:

i'm hoping someone may offer me some advice i have been asked to sell some coins on behalf and not sure where to start with reserves or if they are even worth listing.
There is two lots of 1996 united kingdom coin sets, 1992 set
1994 bank of NZ proof set, a Royal visit 1983 coin , and the 1992 Americas cup coin set and a 1990 commenwealth games $1 coin plus a large container of mixed coins from all over the world any advice would be great fully accepted.

Looking at the market right now the key question would be to determine whether the sets and loose dollars are proofs or ordinary uncirculated issues. If they're proof, then the silver content in the large dollar-sized coins will give their market value a boost.
If they're ordinary uncirculated issues then it's a matter of testing the market at say a little below the published catalogue value and see how you get on. The latest John Bertrand/Premier catalogue is available on TradeMe so that would be a good place to start.
The container of mixed stuff could sell as a job lot, you never know. Work out weight and postage costs, get clear photos so people can see what they're bidding on, and see if it draws any interest.

translateltd - 2020-08-24 11:38:00
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What's the best way to sell 6kg of nz pennies? I was thinking of scrapping them with other scrap i have?

mj2356 - 2020-08-29 08:07:00
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mj2356 wrote:

What's the best way to sell 6kg of nz pennies? I was thinking of scrapping them with other scrap i have?

If you have time it might pay to sort through them for any 1956 "strapless" examples, which would be worth a good premium, but other than that it might be worth just scrapping the rest if it's a well circulated/worn lot.

translateltd - 2020-08-29 09:49:00
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Any clever ideas for what to do when an item you've listed closes and auto-relists, then a couple of hours later someone sends a request through the TM system to buy your "expired item" for a fixed price? There isn't even any way to get in touch and say "Sorry, but it's already been relisted".

translateltd - 2020-08-30 16:02:00
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You could send an fpo and take the risk of selling it twice ? You can always lift the sell price on the relisted auction while waiting for a sale or not on fpo.
If it sells on fpo, then amend the relist to be for a different item.
Or just wait & hope the requester sees the new listing. But if they are just hoping for a plice-slashing bargain then nothing will happen & you put the relist back to normal price.
Good luck Peter

funho1 - 2020-08-30 20:26:00
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Thanks, Peter - not sure FPOs are even possible once an item has been relisted, so I'm a little mystified about how these requests sneak through every now and then!

translateltd - 2020-08-31 06:18:00
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Bump

translateltd - 2020-09-08 06:23:00
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Hi Everyone! I recently found my boyhood coin collection. Mainly gifts from relatives for birthdays and Christmas. Several are larger commemorative coins held in square plastic holders, or 'folders' containing everyday coins minted for a specific year. Are the larger commemorative coins actually silver?
I am unsure if coins that are referred to as 'proof' on listings on this site are silver or silver-plated. I'd like to start collecting again and would appreciated any assistance with these questions. Thanks!

nathanielj - 2020-09-08 08:33:00
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Australian 2015 ANZAC Day Red $2 two dollar Coin Mint Bag 25 coins - now going for northwards of $A400 on ebay oz. What would be a reasonable price expectation on TM as a S=R=BN ? https://trademe.tmcdn.co.nz/photoserver/full/1396784559.jpg

funho1 - 2020-09-08 09:04:00
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nathanielj wrote:

Hi Everyone! I recently found my boyhood coin collection. Mainly gifts from relatives for birthdays and Christmas. Several are larger commemorative coins held in square plastic holders, or 'folders' containing everyday coins minted for a specific year. Are the larger commemorative coins actually silver?
I am unsure if coins that are referred to as 'proof' on listings on this site are silver or silver-plated. I'd like to start collecting again and would appreciated any assistance with these questions. Thanks!

The individual large dollars in the hard plastic cases with slide covers are base metal (cupro-nickel, like the old 5, 10, 20 and 50c). Silver proofs tend to be in plush cases (though to confuse things, some of the earlier dollars in plush cases were also just Cu-Ni). Basic guide is that the silver proof dollars started on a regular basis from 1977 onwards (plus the 1974 Games $1).
The same goes for the dollars in the proof sets in hard plastic cases - they're silver for 1974 and 1977 onwards.
Once you've seen a few you'll be able to "spot the difference" between a silver proof and a base metal one. Compare the dollars with the other coins in the proof sets for starters.
NZ proofs aren't silver plated.
It would be worthwhile getting a copy of the annual John Bertrand/Premier catalogue of NZ coins, tokens, banknotes, etc., as it has a wealth of info packed into its 100 or so pages. I haven't any more of this year's one in stock but others are still selling them on TM.

Edited by translateltd at 10:12 pm, Tue 8 Sep

translateltd - 2020-09-08 22:11:00
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translateltd wrote:

If you have time it might pay to sort through them for any 1956 "strapless" examples, which would be worth a good premium, but other than that it might be worth just scrapping the rest if it's a well circulated/worn lot.

Im keeping mine to take the the Reserve bank of NZ next time Im in Wellington

spead - 2020-09-10 21:08:00
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spead wrote:


Im keeping mine to take the the Reserve bank of NZ next time Im in Wellington

Might pay to check the current price of copper - I think you'd get more for melting them than for exchanging them at face value. Face value would give you $1 per 120 pennies, whereas those 120 pennies would weigh a little over a kilogram ...

translateltd - 2020-09-10 22:28:00
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Bump ...

translateltd - 2020-09-17 20:33:00
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translateltd wrote:

Bump ...


Hi Martin, learning something new every day.
Was unaware of those variations on the NZ 1945 florins you have listed

gammoner - 2020-09-18 11:10:00
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opinions on this please?
https://www.numisbids.com/n.php?p=lot&sid=2135&lot=1
263

dtpapa - 2020-09-24 11:55:00
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dtpapa wrote:

opinions on this please?
https://www.numisbids.com/n.php?p=lot&sid=2135&lot=1
263

Nice design detail but the rim looks flat/damaged toward 5/7:00 depending which side you look at. Bid odd to be a strike issue, but I guess hard to say without seeing it in real life.

translateltd - 2020-09-24 13:51:00
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I agree it does look a bit suspect maybe a copy or the like, if it was genuine would have expected it to fetch a lot more than it did. Good detail but maybe some nose wear to the full figure warrior hints at a copy. Not sure about it being silver either weight seems a little high also?

here's a similar example of coin in different metal
https://www.noble.com.au/auctions/lot/?id=383009
and rim looks okay on this one

dtpapa - 2020-09-24 16:47:00
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Didn't even notice the metal description, was just looking at the grade and the rim! I wouldn't think a cast copy would be as sharp, but I guess it could be another alloy that either didn't strike up properly or was more prone to rim damage if soft.

translateltd - 2020-09-24 17:03:00
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Hi Everyone,
I'm hoping someone might be able to help advise me please - Im totally new to this..
I have an old school NZ 20cent coin thats double tails - a kiwi on both sides.
No idea of year of course, sorry.
Out of interest I tried looking it up, & I havent been able to find any info, similar coins, value or anything about it at all.. but Im not sure if its because Im not wording or asking the right questions.
Any knowledge would be most appreciated.
Thank you for your time.

26tiki - 2020-09-26 17:39:00
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26tiki wrote:

Hi Everyone,
I'm hoping someone might be able to help advise me please - Im totally new to this..
I have an old school NZ 20cent coin thats double tails - a kiwi on both sides.
No idea of year of course, sorry.
Out of interest I tried looking it up, & I havent been able to find any info, similar coins, value or anything about it at all.. but Im not sure if its because Im not wording or asking the right questions.
Any knowledge would be most appreciated.
Thank you for your time.

Key question - do both the "kiwi" sides look normal, or is one side like a mirror image? If it's a mirror image, it's what's called a brockage, and it's caused by a coin getting jammed in the minting machinery, and then the next coin that's struck is hit by the jammed coin, not the die with the Queen's head on it in this case. They're quite spectacular errors.

If the two sides are both normal, the first thing to look for is any sign of a seam around the edge, or maybe just inside the rim on one side, which would indicate someone's either cut two coins in half and joined them together, or has hollowed out one coin (to keep the milled edge intact) and then cut another coin in half and trimmed the edge off on a lathe so it will fit inside the other coin neatly. If that's the case it will be worth just novelty value, though you could win a few games of heads-or-tails with it :-)

The other option with two matching sides is that the mint made a genuine error, by setting up two matching dies instead of one die for each side of the coin, or a mint worker was having some fun with the equipment outside of working hours. If it's a genuine error it could be worth a premium.

Check the coin against what I've said above and let us know what you find. Also, if you can get hold of some digital scales, check the weight. It should be pretty close to 11.31 grams. If it's too light or too heavy, that could indicate someone's joined two coins without cutting them both precisely in half.

translateltd - 2020-09-26 18:11:00
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Wow - thats awesome.
Yes, both sides are normal.
Im going to find the magnifying glass to have a proper close look at the seams etc. and see what it weighs at a friends.

Thank you!

26tiki - 2020-09-26 18:45:00
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Can anyone help me identify this Roman coin
https://trademe.tmcdn.co.nz/photoserver/full/1408194243.jpg
https://trademe.tmcdn.co.nz/photoserver/full/1408194212.jpg
https://trademe.tmcdn.co.nz/photoserver/full/1408194170.jpg
https://trademe.tmcdn.co.nz/photoserver/full/1408194136.jpg
18 mm across 3.5 mm thick.
This is one coin photographed under 2 different lights.
Thanks.

Edited by lester36 at 8:00 pm, Sat 26 Sep

lester36 - 2020-09-26 19:59:00
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lester36 wrote:

Can anyone help me identify this Roman coin
18 mm across 3.5 mm thick.
Thanks.

It's a bronze tetradrachm of Alexandria (Roman Egypt). I'm pretty confident the Emperor is Aurelian, and the letters looking like LD on the reverse mean year 4 of his reign (AD 273).

Edit: 18mm seems a bit small for a tetradrachm, though - it could be a smaller unit. I'll keep digging.

Edited by translateltd at 9:56 pm, Sat 26 Sep

translateltd - 2020-09-26 21:53:00
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Here's one with the same reverse and a matching obverse legend. Diameter is slightly larger but I see tetradrachms of Probus just a few years later were down to the 18-19 mm range, so it's possible:
https://www.cointalk.com/threads/aurelian-potin-tet-attribit
ion-help.226816/

translateltd - 2020-09-26 22:08:00
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Thanks for your help Martin In Roman Coins by Sear I think I have found it on page 272.
Colonial and provincial coinage billion tetradrachm number 3180 Eagle standing B.M.C.G.2355.
The shape is not round but 20mm by 18mm.
Thanks Lindsay

lester36 - 2020-09-26 22:35:00
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lester36 wrote:

Thanks for your help Martin In Roman Coins by Sear I think I have found it on page 272.
Colonial and provincial coinage billion tetradrachm number 3180 Eagle standing B.M.C.G.2355.
The shape is not round but 20mm by 18mm.
Thanks Lindsay

Something else I've learned today - I didn't realise Sear covered Alexandrian issues! Just checked my old 1981 copy and that looks like a match.

translateltd - 2020-09-27 07:21:00
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Hi everyone. Probably a dumb question here. I've got a number of empty Dansco albums that I'm getting rid of. Two of them have split in half along the spine (New Guinea and a NZ Shilling-Florins album). Is there any point in trying to sell them or are they just for the bin?

justinian1 - 2020-09-27 12:19:00
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justinian1 wrote:

Hi everyone. Probably a dumb question here. I've got a number of empty Dansco albums that I'm getting rid of. Two of them have split in half along the spine (New Guinea and a NZ Shilling-Florins album). Is there any point in trying to sell them or are they just for the bin?

I guess there's no harm in trying if it's only the spine that's damaged.

translateltd - 2020-09-27 16:34:00
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Bump ...

translateltd - 2020-10-04 12:32:00
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Another bump, before the group disappears from view ...

translateltd - 2020-10-11 18:01:00
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How deep are your pockets ?
https://www.romanumismatics.com/221-lot-463-brutus-av-aureus
?auction_id=75&view=lot_detail

smyrnia - 2020-10-13 12:46:00
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smyrnia wrote:

How deep are your pockets ?
https://www.romanumismatics.com/221-lot-463-brutus-av-aureus
?auction_id=75&view=lot_detail

Very nice indeed - would be good if my pockets were that deep, but I'll just have to enjoy the pictures :-)

translateltd - 2020-10-13 13:37:00
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I was browsing through the latest Bertrand catalogue, and noted a Queen Mary Centre token listed (CV $25)- a bit obscure, but does anyone have one they could do a buy now listing for?

enserf - 2020-10-16 19:20:00
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I've seen one, perhaps two of the QMC tokens on TM in recent years but don't have one, unfortunately.

translateltd - 2020-10-24 07:34:00
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I seem to be stuck with the new look trademe which does not appear to allow the downloading of auction photos to your computer for more detailed study. Anyone else come across this problem? Any possible work around for this issue would be much appreciated. Thnx!

dtpapa - 2020-10-26 10:36:00
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dtpapa wrote:

I seem to be stuck with the new look trademe which does not appear to allow the downloading of auction photos to your computer for more detailed study. Anyone else come across this problem? Any possible work around for this issue would be much appreciated. Thnx!

Seems to depend on the browser you use. I couldn't see an easy way to do it with Chrome, but with Firefox there is an option to "View Background Image" when you right click on an image - from there you can save it.

justinian1 - 2020-10-26 22:09:00
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justinian1 wrote:

Seems to depend on the browser you use. I couldn't see an easy way to do it with Chrome, but with Firefox there is an option to "View Background Image" when you right click on an image - from there you can save it.

thanks! Usually I would use chrome but can switch to firefox if required. Can download photos now, wonder why trademe changed it?

Edited by dtpapa at 6:58 pm, Tue 27 Oct

dtpapa - 2020-10-27 18:58:00
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Have they deleted "Bid History" from the new layout?

translateltd - 2020-10-29 10:12:00
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Some free digital catalogues - since nothing is being sold, hopefully this is OK to share here. The first instalment of the 3rd edition of Leon Morel's catalogue of NZ commemorative medals; updates to the printed challenge coin catalogues; and NZ geocaching trackables. Just click on any of the item descriptions to download: https://www.RNSNZ.org.nz/collector-info/catalogues/

translateltd - 2020-10-29 10:33:00
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translateltd wrote:

Some free digital catalogues - since nothing is being sold, hopefully this is OK to share here. The first instalment of the 3rd edition of Leon Morel's catalogue of NZ commemorative medals; updates to the printed challenge coin catalogues; and NZ geocaching trackables. Just click on any of the item descriptions to download: https://www.RNSNZ.org.nz/collector-info/catalogues/

thanks Martin very interesting reading!

Regarding the 1940 NZ Centennial medal issued in silver, has anyone come across an example that does not have the appearance of cleaning or polishing at one time? I might be interested!

dtpapa - 2020-10-29 15:52:00
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dtpapa wrote:


Regarding the 1940 NZ Centennial medal issued in silver, has anyone come across an example that does not have the appearance of cleaning or polishing at one time? I might be interested!

You mean M1940/CEN/1? (There are a few different silver ones :-) ) I've seen at least one with what appeared to be natural toning, but I suspect a lot will have been treated as medals rather than coins and polished accordingly.

translateltd - 2020-10-29 17:17:00
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translateltd wrote:

You mean M1940/CEN/1? (There are a few different silver ones :-) ) I've seen at least one with what appeared to be natural toning, but I suspect a lot will have been treated as medals rather than coins and polished accordingly.

yes mainly 1940/CEN/1, although 1940/CEN/1B would be good too!

who owns a 1940/CEN/1A? I might be interested! (spotted one while perusing the noble archives, it didn't sell for a huge amount given its rarity, although don't think it was a recent sale!)

dtpapa - 2020-10-29 17:49:00
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translateltd wrote:

Have they deleted "Bid History" from the new layout?

yes the bid history feature is still there, haven't looked at it closely though. Not sure if it goes back to the very beginning of bids, don't think previous version did either.

dtpapa - 2020-10-29 17:51:00
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dtpapa wrote:


who owns a 1940/CEN/1A? I might be interested! (spotted one while perusing the noble archives, it didn't sell for a huge amount given its rarity, although don't think it was a recent sale!)

Leon Morel discovered one in his collection in around 2000, and hadn't previously been aware of it, based on a msg he sent me at the time. That one's now with an Australian owner.

translateltd - 2020-10-30 11:48:00
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You cannot place a bid as you already have bids placed on too many items.

anyone got this message before? (was bidding on a bunch of stamps at the time, nothing of high value though!). A trademe glitch I guess.

dtpapa - 2020-11-02 08:31:00
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dtpapa wrote:

You cannot place a bid as you already have bids placed on too many items.

anyone got this message before? (was bidding on a bunch of stamps at the time, nothing of high value though!). A trademe glitch I guess.

No glitch, it has happened to me

gammoner - 2020-11-02 17:25:00
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Raised the same concerns in another thread a few days ago
https://www.trademe.co.nz/Community/MessageBoard/Messages.as
px?id=1839910&topic=18

gammoner - 2020-11-02 17:27:00
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A few examples of the GCSB 40th anniversary medal (NZCC/GCSB/7.1 and 7.2 in the free online NZCC update and MP2017/6.1 and 6.2 in the forthcoming MacMaster/Purdy update) have surfaced lately, all with stains/scratches/dings, which seems quite odd for an item only three years old. Would be interested in any background info if anyone knows more. The centre field on the reverse is blank, possibly for engraving. Wonder if it was a run that was not used in the end and then not finished and discarded.

translateltd - 2020-11-11 07:47:00
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Mystery solved - at least in part. The items circulating (MP2017/6 as above) appear to be unfinished blanks, the finished version having an additional enamelled design that the blanks lack.

translateltd - 2020-11-11 20:40:00
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