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However being facetious to bring some levity into the discussion........
Given the unknown half-life of Covid 19 on different surfaces is it better to wash the coins you win in an auction with warm water and soap/detergent or use a hand sanitiser ? For those receiving banknotes what is the minimum temperature to use while ironing them?
Be very careful! Remember those European adventurers collecting Yuan dynasty cash coins may have brought that nasty bacillus called the black plague to Europe from a Yunnan market in 1347.

alpha111 - 2020-04-03 11:38:00
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Welcome to the Coin Club. We are an assortment of newbies and oldbies, amateurs and experts with questions and answers for oldbies and newbies, amateurs and experts in coin collecting, also known as numismatics. Whether you are just getting started, have been collecting for years or have simply found some old coins about the place that you’d like to sell, this is the place to ask your questions.

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alpha111 - 2020-04-03 11:39:00
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alpha111 wrote:

However being facetious to bring some levity into the discussion........
Given the unknown half-life of Covid 19 on different surfaces is it better to wash the coins you win in an auction with warm water and soap/detergent or use a hand sanitiser ?

I have it from reliable sources, safest way to handle suspected covid19 infected coins is to melt the buggers

gammoner - 2020-04-04 10:13:00
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Also think during this lockdown period , maybe a good time to push this thread to the 200 pages with time on your hands and not covid19

Edited by gammoner at 10:16 am, Sat 4 Apr

gammoner - 2020-04-04 10:15:00
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gammoner wrote:

Also think during this lockdown period , maybe a good time to push this thread to the 200 pages with time on your hands and not covid19

Excellent idea - no-one got any questions they want to ask, mystery items to identify, new acquisitions to share images of?

translateltd - 2020-04-06 19:57:00
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Hello everyone. Just thought I would share 2 recent purchases from the UK -
1874 Half Crown - Pretty much UNC. Just the odd contact mark.
https://trademe.tmcdn.co.nz/photoserver/full/1303547117.jpg
1911 Proof Florin
https://trademe.tmcdn.co.nz/photoserver/full/1303547138.jpg

Edited by bd30 at 9:34 am, Tue 7 Apr

bd30 - 2020-04-07 09:32:00
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bd30 wrote:

Hello everyone. Just thought I would share 2 recent purchases from the UK -
1874 Half Crown - Pretty much UNC. Just the odd contact mark.
https://trademe.tmcdn.co.nz/photoserver/full/1303547117.jpg
1911 Proof Florin
https://trademe.tmcdn.co.nz/photoserver/full/1303547138.jpg[
/quote]

They're a pleasure to behold - thanks for sharing!

translateltd - 2020-04-07 09:42:00
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bd30 wrote:

Hello everyone. Just thought I would share 2 recent purchases from the UK -
1874 Half Crown - Pretty much UNC. Just the odd contact mark.
https://trademe.tmcdn.co.nz/photoserver/full/1303547117.jpg
1911 Proof Florin
https://trademe.tmcdn.co.nz/photoserver/full/1303547138.jpg[
/quote]

Wow, nice

gammoner - 2020-04-07 09:48:00
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Here's a couple that I had graded -
1893 One Rupee MS-64
https://trademe.tmcdn.co.nz/photoserver/full/1303551750.jpg
1949 NZ Crown MS-66
https://trademe.tmcdn.co.nz/photoserver/full/1303552103.jpg
I'll see what else I can find. I've been quite active this year and more so during the lock down.

Edited by bd30 at 10:12 am, Tue 7 Apr

bd30 - 2020-04-07 10:09:00
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I've only really been buying for cataloguing purposes (medals/tokens) for a while now, so haven't been paying a lot of attention to the delights to be had from real coins. But speaking of tokens, this was at least something unusual that turned up a while back, the first I've seen in real life (reference Y2a in the latest John Bertrand) :
https://trademe.tmcdn.co.nz/photoserver/full/1303557743.jpg

translateltd - 2020-04-07 10:44:00
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The Stamp and Coin Exchange. Gun Money Charles I Twopence Turner’ coin 1632-39 Earl Of Stir Listing #: 2595498515
"Good news!! We have been classified as an Essential Business during Lockdown by the MBIE and Trade Me. We will be running it "Dutch Auction" style as normal Auctions are not possible at this time. To purchase, press "Buy Now" and we will ship it."
How does this happen?

alpha111 - 2020-04-08 17:57:00
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And the thistle looks like a rose.

alpha111 - 2020-04-08 20:04:00
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alpha111 wrote:

However being facetious to bring some levity into the discussion........
Given the unknown half-life of Covid 19 on different surfaces is it better to wash the coins you win in an auction with warm water and soap/detergent or use a hand sanitiser ? For those receiving banknotes what is the minimum temperature to use while ironing them?
Be very careful! Remember those European adventurers collecting Yuan dynasty cash coins may have brought that nasty bacillus called the black plague to Europe from a Yunnan market in 1347.

Might be the time to take an interest in copper coins, given it's antimicrobial properties.........

Either that or accept defeat and start collecting cased coins

chrisr5 - 2020-04-08 21:35:00
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alpha111 wrote:

The Stamp and Coin Exchange. Gun Money Charles I Twopence Turner’ coin 1632-39 Earl Of Stir Listing #: 2595498515

Gun Money? Only out by about 50 years and the width of the Irish Sea.

translateltd - 2020-04-08 21:57:00
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alpha111 wrote:

The Stamp and Coin Exchange. Gun Money Charles I Twopence Turner’ coin 1632-39 Earl Of Stir Listing #: 2595498515
"Good news!! We have been classified as an Essential Business during Lockdown by the MBIE and Trade Me. We will be running it "Dutch Auction" style as normal Auctions are not possible at this time. To purchase, press "Buy Now" and we will ship it."
How does this happen?

Well I am still waiting for that NZ silver florin from that same seller.
Lets hope somebody will discover a silver particle mix that wipes out the covid. Go Silver

gammoner - 2020-04-08 23:01:00
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Good luck with that.

alpha111 - 2020-04-09 09:41:00
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translateltd wrote:

Gun Money? Only out by about 50 years and the width of the Irish Sea.


Thought it was a rose farthing?

oldman3 - 2020-04-09 11:26:00
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oldman3 wrote:


Thought it was a rose farthing?

It is. Hence my comment about it being described as "Gun Money" on the listing.

translateltd - 2020-04-09 12:08:00
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Dear Mr Translateltd Please remind me the web address of that Medal (& Coin ?) Forum you suggested I look at re selling that Napoleon 1981 Medal .... I wrote it down on my faithful piec3e of paper, which seems to have absconded. TIA Peter

funho1 - 2020-04-09 20:21:00
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funho1 wrote:

Dear Mr Translateltd Please remind me the web address of that Medal (& Coin ?) Forum you suggested I look at re selling that Napoleon 1981 Medal .... I wrote it down on my faithful piec3e of paper, which seems to have absconded. TIA Peter

Hi Peter,
It was probably worldofcoins dot eu - it's more a discussion forum but you might get some more useful information about your item there. Cheers, Martin

translateltd - 2020-04-10 10:49:00
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Thanks Martin, that was it ! Will get on the job. Peter

funho1 - 2020-04-10 12:57:00
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Trying to find more info on a 1856 French 2 Francs with D mint (lyon) but can only find A mint .Possibly KM# 780.3 by notes with the coin but can't even find that lol. Any help appreciated on mintage and aprox value in F+ grade .Thanks

gammoner - 2020-04-15 11:51:00
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gammoner wrote:

Trying to find more info on a 1856 French 2 Francs with D mint (lyon) but can only find A mint .Possibly KM# 780.3 by notes with the coin but can't even find that lol. Any help appreciated on mintage and aprox value in F+ grade .Thanks

It isn't just you. The Krause listings are a mess in parts - they rearranged them a decade or so ago and now there's no real system to it for many countries. In my 7th ed (2012) it's on p. 346 and is KM 780.3 as you say. Mintage just 289,000 and priced at US$150 in F, $275 in VF.

Looks like all the "first head" 2 francs are pretty scarce - add that to the things I've learned today!

Edited by translateltd at 1:22 pm, Wed 15 Apr

translateltd - 2020-04-15 13:20:00
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The German Schön catalogue (2016) just gives a single generic entry for all dates and mints other than Paris for the first head coins: €700 in VF across the board.

translateltd - 2020-04-15 13:28:00
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E-bay: Napoleon III - 2 Francs 1856 D Lyon Condition:-- (worn) £315.86

alpha111 - 2020-04-15 14:44:00
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alpha111 wrote:

E-bay: Napoleon III - 2 Francs 1856 D Lyon Condition:-- (worn) £315.86

Offer price or sold?

translateltd - 2020-04-15 15:19:00
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Thanks folks for the help out, much appreciated

gammoner - 2020-04-15 15:34:00
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Offer ~ buy it now at numistore.

alpha111 - 2020-04-16 08:48:00
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Hi whole bunch of inherited coins to get info on and I wonder if someone could recommend a good informative website please

Edited by goodie.shopping at 1:37 pm, Wed 22 Apr

goodie.shopping - 2020-04-22 13:36:00
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goodie.shopping wrote:

Hi whole bunch of inherited coins to get info on and I wonder if someone could recommend a good informative website please

When everything opens again I'd recommend checking your local library and see if they have a copy of the Standard Catalog of World Coins, published by either Krause Publications or (more recently) F+W Media. It comes in century-by-century volumes, each the size of a large phone book, so it isn't easily overlooked on the shelf :-)

translateltd - 2020-04-22 14:37:00
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Hello everyone. Just wanting to share 2 more recent purchases. I must say this I thought lock-down would save me money. Quite the opposite.
https://trademe.tmcdn.co.nz/photoserver/full/1310297977.jpg
https://trademe.tmcdn.co.nz/photoserver/full/1310298218.jpg

bd30 - 2020-04-23 11:01:00
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bd30 wrote:

Hello everyone. Just wanting to share 2 more recent purchases. I must say this I thought lock-down would save me money. Quite the opposite.
https://trademe.tmcdn.co.nz/photoserver/full/1310297977.jpg
https://trademe.tmcdn.co.nz/photoserver/full/1310298218.jpg[
/quote]

That George IV half crown is a beauty.

translateltd - 2020-04-23 11:34:00
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translateltd wrote:

That George IV half crown is a beauty.

Now I've said half crown I'm not so sure. Is it, or is it one of the smaller denominations?

translateltd - 2020-04-23 19:44:00
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Half Crown. I must say there’s been some real stunning coins come up for sale recently. Problem is with half the world in lock down you’re competing with more bidders.

bd30 - 2020-04-23 19:57:00
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I hope you guys don’t mind me posting a couple more pictures of recent purchases?

https://trademe.tmcdn.co.nz/photoserver/full/1311654206.jpg
https://trademe.tmcdn.co.nz/photoserver/full/1311653874.jpg
https://trademe.tmcdn.co.nz/photoserver/full/1311653711.jpg

bd30 - 2020-04-25 13:24:00
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bd30 wrote:

I hope you guys don’t mind me posting a couple more pictures of recent purchases?

No complaints from me :-)

translateltd - 2020-04-25 14:13:00
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However let's see if there are eventual complaints from this winner..........
SPADE GUINEA Listing #: 2594325266 "here is what is written on the shield side...W.C.E.ET.CO.DG. I.REX.F.D.B.I.R.M. 1790".. Current bid $87.69
A. this is not copper... 2:01 pm, Mon 20 Apr.

alpha111 - 2020-04-25 19:34:00
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alpha111 wrote:

However let's see if there are eventual complaints from this winner..........
SPADE GUINEA Listing #: 2594325266 "here is what is written on the shield side...W.C.E.ET.CO.DG. I.REX.F.D.B.I.R.M. 1790".. Current bid $87.69
A. this is not copper... 2:01 pm, Mon 20 Apr.

Well its not Gold

gammoner - 2020-04-25 23:29:00
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alpha111 wrote:

However let's see if there are eventual complaints from this winner..........
SPADE GUINEA Listing #: 2594325266 "here is what is written on the shield side...W.C.E.ET.CO.DG. I.REX.F.D.B.I.R.M. 1790".. Current bid $87.69
A. this is not copper... 2:01 pm, Mon 20 Apr.

I'm just intrigued that it's deemed an "essential item".

translateltd - 2020-04-26 08:14:00
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translateltd wrote:

I'm just intrigued that it's deemed an "essential item".

Think they fit the coin operated washing machines and dryers .

gammoner - 2020-04-26 11:43:00
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gammoner wrote:

Think they fit the coin operated washing machines and dryers .

That will be it! Latest is "nowhere did I say it was gold" - but by listing it as a spade guinea there's an implied claim.

translateltd - 2020-04-26 15:55:00
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Left this link in his questions
Same markings on the shield side
https://coinquest.com/cgi-bin/cq/coins.pl?coin=5243

smyrnia - 2020-04-26 17:06:00
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Something I wasn't aware of until today - just spreading the word in case others are similarly behind the play:
https://www.trademe.co.nz/MyTradeMe/EssentialSeller.aspx

translateltd - 2020-04-28 09:10:00
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Hi team. Just thought I would share another purchase from Europe - 1878 7/8TF Strong Morgan. Though the auctioneer listed it as a Regular strike.
https://trademe.tmcdn.co.nz/photoserver/full/1317416860.jpg
This is one that I will definitely send off for grading.
https://www.pcgs.com/coinfacts/coin/1878-7-8tf-1-strong/7078

bd30 - 2020-05-04 11:55:00
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Just sold a NZ 1990 $2 error coin for $200.

https://trademe.tmcdn.co.nz/photoserver/full/1319625532.jpg
https://trademe.tmcdn.co.nz/photoserver/full/1319625785.jpg

catwoman1974 - 2020-05-08 02:38:00
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catwoman1974 wrote:

Just sold a NZ 1990 $2 error coin for $200.

https://trademe.tmcdn.co.nz/photoserver/full/1319625532.jpg
https://trademe.tmcdn.co.nz/photoserver/full/1319625785.jpg[
/quote]

A nice coin, I have a similar one listed.

Did you find it or have you had it for a long time?

I'm still surprised what turns up in circulation if you search enough.

numismatist - 2020-05-08 17:36:00
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numismatist wrote:

A nice coin, I have a similar one listed.

Did you find it or have you had it for a long time?

I'm still surprised what turns up in circulation if you search enough.

Found it in circulation over 20 years ago.

catwoman1974 - 2020-05-08 19:38:00
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UNC COINS ON CARDS...

Such as the NZ 1992 Decimal Coin 25th Anniversary $5 UNC...

Can the coins be successfully separated from their cards without damage? And if so, any particular technique(s)? In the case of this coin, I want to exhibit it next to the 1983 Coins 50th $1, with both in similar capsules.

In some of the photos of this coin here at TM, the coin looks as if it has a pair of short parallel scratches and some light ding marks. Could those actually be on or in a plastic overlay instead of on the coin? It's hard to tell how the coin is attached to the card and I'm reluctant to probe mine in case I damage it.

CAPSULES
Are all locally available capsules suitable for both exhibiting/examining and for long-term storage of UNC and proof coins? Would appreciate any valid recommendations,

dbb - 2020-05-13 00:06:00
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Re post 9798:--

This photo, while it lasts, shows the pair of scratches below the D of DOLLARS. In line with these, on the upper left rim, is an obvious hair, so don't be fooled by it. I've seen similar scratches in other carded coins.
https://trademe.tmcdn.co.nz/photoserver/plusw/1222629798.jpg

dbb - 2020-05-13 01:57:00
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dbb wrote:

UNC COINS ON CARDS...

Such as the NZ 1992 Decimal Coin 25th Anniversary $5 UNC...

Can the coins be successfully separated from their cards without damage? And if so, any particular technique(s)? In the case of this coin, I want to exhibit it next to the 1983 Coins 50th $1, with both in similar capsules.

I'm not sure I get the "cards" reference here - I don't recall them being issued in this way, though after almost 30 years it may just be a memory thing. If it's a private concoction it would depend entirely on what they've been attached with. Anything touching or adhering to the surface of the coin is likely to damage it, and using solvents to remove adhesives is still going to leave a mark for the long term. As kids in the 70s we used to buy low-denomination foreign coins from Seven Seas Coins (think that was the name) that were stuck onto backing card/paper with a dab of adhesive. If you were lucky you could peel it back slowly and leave no visible traces, but sometimes you'd be stuck with a disfiguring blob on the back of the coin.

translateltd - 2020-05-13 07:28:00
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