THE NEW COIN CLUB
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| 9701 | Welcome to the Coin Club. We are an assortment of newbies and oldbies, amateurs and experts with questions and answers for oldbies and newbies, amateurs and experts in coin collecting, also known as numismatics. Whether you are just getting started, have been collecting for years or have simply found some old coins about the place that you’d like to sell, this is the place to ask your questions. No one has all the answers, and you may get five differing answers to the same question, yet each may be right in a manner of speaking, especially if opinions are involved. Opinions often vary. If you receive no answer to your query within 48 hours, please ask again. To post a photo: click on My Trade Me, then on "View My Trade Me". Then scroll way down toward the bottom to "My Photos" and click on that. Click "upload photo" and follow the instructions on-screen from there. Once done, you can copy-and-paste the link to your picture into a message posted here. translateltd - 2020-02-05 17:11:00 |
| 9702 | Just in case it gets missed in the page turn ... France 1800 Napoleon Battle of Marengo Passage St Bernard Bronze Medal 60mm 6cm diameter, 95gm; 1981 restrike side stamped '1981' 'BRONZE' with a cornucopia (apparently) symbol in between. Of interest to anyone ? Can list on TM. Price suggestions appreciated. Ta Peter https://trademe.tmcdn.co.nz/photoserver/full/1263211635.jpg https://trademe.tmcdn.co.nz/photoserver/full/1263211854.jpg https://trademe.tmcdn.co.nz/photoserver/full/1263212616.jpg funho1 - 2020-02-05 19:41:00 |
| 9703 | Interesting that CGB in France - where I'd have expected to see examples of this medal - doesn't seem to have sold any examples of this particular restrike. There appear to be earlier restrikes, as it has two listed dated to "after 1880", e.g.: I did find a 1981 example for sale in Norway but the site is "unavailable in your country" - if you have a VPN you might be able to access it: Brukt NAPOLEON tung massiv Bronse 110g 59x6mm tykk til ... Edited by translateltd at 6:31 am, Thu 6 Feb translateltd - 2020-02-06 06:28:00 |
| 9704 | Thanks translateltd. I found two - both out of Estonia; seller with extreemly good feedback. Both sold at buy now $US 40. funho1 - 2020-02-06 08:36:00 |
| 9705 | And the one in Norway is listed at 350 Norwegian Krone or approx $US 38. funho1 - 2020-02-06 10:36:00 |
| 9706 | funho1 wrote:
That matches nicely - and well done for accessing it. I was wondering what the price details would turn out to be! translateltd - 2020-02-06 11:53:00 |
| 9707 | Bump. translateltd - 2020-02-13 13:02:00 |
| 9708 | Nice medal. I remember showing a retired Victoria University french senior lecturer a specimen of the Napoleon coronation medal by Galle & Jeuffroy and saying to her that was a good portrait of their Emperor. I got a right rigorous dressing down which concluded with the statement that he was NOT French! alpha111 - 2020-02-14 20:09:00 |
| 9709 | alpha111 wrote:
Nice try on her part but as far as I know Corsica passed to France in 1768 and Boney was born in 1769 ... translateltd - 2020-02-14 21:24:00 |
| 9710 | https://trademe.tmcdn.co.nz/photoserver/full/1269595773.jpg lester36 - 2020-02-15 17:31:00 |
| 9711 | lester36 wrote:
Chinese, AD 1102-1107. Northern Sung Dynasty. I'll need to check another reference to get the correct reign title but will be back soon :-) At 35mm it's probably a multiple denomination (10?) rather than a single "cash". translateltd - 2020-02-15 19:25:00 |
| 9712 | translateltd wrote:
François Thierry dates it to 1103-1106, but what's a year or two between friends? The coin name, including the reign title (reading clockwise on these, not the usual top-bottom-right-left) is Chong Ning tongbao, and it's a 10-cash as I thought. Thierry gives the specs as 34.4mm, 11.88g. Yours is a bit light but it was made at various mints around the country so who knows what the weight range may have been. Apparently this issue was heavily forged and production was cut back, and in some regions it circulated as only 5 cash instead of 10. Looking at your pic it matches the genuine example illustrated in Thierry's book rather than any of the quite dodgy forgeries. Edited by translateltd at 7:32 pm, Sat 15 Feb translateltd - 2020-02-15 19:30:00 |
| 9713 | Thanks Martin for the information. lester36 - 2020-02-15 20:54:00 |
| 9714 | Lindsay there is a man over on the Mount (Chris) who is selling so-called Chinese trade dollars (even rusty examples). Can you ask him to list in the correct category on Trade Me (if you know him). Edited by alpha111 at 11:38 am, Sun 16 Feb alpha111 - 2020-02-16 11:31:00 |
| 9715 | I know of him but don't know him, all his so called trade dollars look to be cheep as repros to me but listed under real coin category lester36 - 2020-02-16 11:52:00 |
| 9716 | lester36 wrote:
I tried reporting them as "wrong category" items when they first started appearing and I think the TM team adjusted only one of them. translateltd - 2020-02-16 15:14:00 |
| 9717 | Time for another "bump" before we drop off the list of current themes. translateltd - 2020-02-23 10:14:00 |
| 9718 | Hi, anyone here can identify this coin as to from what epoch it is ? Cheers. zak410 - 2020-02-23 11:34:00 |
| 9719 | zak410 wrote:
If genuine, 3rd-4th century BC. The shape of the "feet" is unusual, though, and those triangular patterns look odd. The few spade coins I find with rounded feet aren't holed and have different markings. Edited by translateltd at 2:05 pm, Sun 23 Feb translateltd - 2020-02-23 14:02:00 |
| 9720 | translateltd wrote:
Thank you very much. It came via a Vietnam veteran during the war. Could have been a replica ? zak410 - 2020-02-23 15:32:00 |
| 9721 | zak410 wrote:
Very possible - my 1965 edition of Schjoth warns that forgeries of ancient Chinese coins had been around for a century or more (I'd bet a lot more), so it's not a recent development at all. translateltd - 2020-02-23 15:50:00 |
| 9722 | translateltd wrote:
I know strange things happen, but a forgery would be more likely to be an 'accurate' reproduction of a known object. zak410 - 2020-02-23 18:25:00 |
| 9723 | zak410 wrote:
True - I said fantasy in my first reply which is more likely the case here. Fantasy items that look vaguely like the real thing but with incorrect designs or legends have been around for a good while too, though I agree that that wasn't specifically what Schjoth was referring to. Strictly speaking, 'replicas' should be more-or-less accurate in detail too, even if the actual execution can range from good to downright amateurish. Edited by translateltd at 7:58 pm, Sun 23 Feb translateltd - 2020-02-23 19:56:00 |
| 9724 | 1846 Bronze medal issued to commemorate the opening of the rebuilt St. Mary's Parochial School, Birmingham, by Ottley https://trademe.tmcdn.co.nz/photoserver/full/1277494138.jpg A parochial school was one linked to the church.There did not seem to be any photos of the school in its heyday to be found online, but I was able to locate this historic photo from 1963. http://epapers.bham.ac.uk/2296/ Click to enlarge image and verify that it is indeed the building in question! dtpapa - 2020-02-27 18:59:00 |
| 9725 | Nice medal, nice condition, and great research! Fun to see it put in context like that. translateltd - 2020-02-27 20:08:00 |
| 9726 | Nice work A+++ . Plus a good history lesson. Thank you. alpha111 - 2020-02-27 20:39:00 |
| 9727 | Hi folks. Just been looking through some of my coins and found one I hadn't noticed before. It's a 1997 NZ $2 coin, but the Queens portrait is out of alignment with the reverse. Not by a massive amount, maybe 20 degrees. I only noticed thanks to the coin holder. Anyone else seen this before with these? justinian1 - 2020-02-27 22:12:00 |
| 9728 | justinian1 wrote:
Haven't heard of that with the 1997 $2 coins (not that I've been looking) but it was certainly a feature of the 1999 5c. Wonder if the SA Mint had some issues with tightening the dies into position at around that time. Edited by translateltd at 8:39 am, Fri 28 Feb translateltd - 2020-02-28 08:38:00 |
| 9729 | Scotland Alexander II 1165-1214 Listing #: 2558765146 Final bid $904.00 alpha111 - 2020-03-05 09:45:00 |
| 9730 | alpha111 wrote:
Well, the photo and provenance details are from this Spink auction in 2017, where it sold for £1,100. So is it the same coin or not? Edited by translateltd at 12:25 pm, Thu 5 Mar translateltd - 2020-03-05 12:24:00 |
| 9731 | Have friend has fake 1935 crown missing dot on left hand side sure it's a fake in Westport did trade me sell coin lot with fake in it does anyone remember? Thanks trying to help friend get money back he payed thinking it was real plus past owner swears it's real. Once again thanks for any help you can offer Colin. 35 - 2020-03-05 14:10:00 |
| 9732 | 35 wrote:
There have been a few copies listed, so I'd find it hard to remember a specific example. Pictures would be good if possible. Also an accurate weight on digital scales, as a copy would very likely be underweight. translateltd - 2020-03-05 15:14:00 |
| 9733 | Thanks, think this one was sold in box with a lot of other coins. 35 - 2020-03-05 15:49:00 |
| 9734 | 35 wrote:
I vaguely remember some comments on the sale at the time - if you know when the auction was you might find them in the archive here. But if your pal can take a couple of clear shots of the coin on its own and get it weighed, that will help get some more opinions on it. translateltd - 2020-03-05 16:26:00 |
| 9735 | Asked friend for weight says 22 grams but old scales 35 - 2020-03-05 18:11:00 |
| 9736 | 35 wrote:
That's 25 percent underweight straight away - should be just over 28g. That should be enough to justify a claim without even looking at design detail. translateltd - 2020-03-05 18:40:00 |
| 9737 | Thanks yes friend new to coin collecting so was easily fooled knows now to check before buying, yes as soon as I saw it knew it was not the real one. Shame so many copy's around now and I suppose better copy's could be on there way too. 35 - 2020-03-06 07:52:00 |
| 9738 | 35 wrote: gammoner - 2020-03-06 08:52:00 |
| 9739 | 35 wrote:
Does your friend live in Tauranga? gammoner - 2020-03-06 09:01:00 |
| 9740 | No lives in Westport 35 - 2020-03-06 11:19:00 |
| 9741 | 35 wrote: gammoner - 2020-03-06 16:56:00 |
| 9742 | What a happy coincidence to be staying at a hotel last week that was two blocks from the Mowbray's auction! And I literally discovered it about an hour before the lots most interesting to me went on the block. Added to an already great few days in Welly. echoriath - 2020-03-08 18:32:00 |
| 9743 | Bump... translateltd - 2020-03-16 06:17:00 |
| 9744 | Hi could someone tell me more about challenge coins never heard of them till now, thanks. 35 - 2020-03-22 09:09:00 |
| 9745 | 35 wrote:
They started out as a sort of "medallic ID", showing your unit of affiliation in the military, and the "challenge" part involved showing your coin when called on to do so. Anyone not having their coin on them could be liable for a penalty, such as paying for a round of drinks. They've grown from there in a number of directions: some are named to senior officers and serve almost as medallic business cards; some are commemorative (an anniversary of a military unit or event); and some - it had to happen - are issued in series for people to collect one of each type. They're also issued beyond the military now, in governmental and civilian organisations - various ministries (e.g. Customs), the Red Cross, Salvation Army, etc. The distinction between challenge coins proper and commemorative medals gets a bit blurry sometimes, but NZ issues still seem reasonably well balanced. I have the impression there are a lot more civilian/personal issues in the US, but haven't really looked beyond the NZ series to know much more in detail. translateltd - 2020-03-22 12:25:00 |
| 9746 | Hi there, just wondering about this Australian Penny, what do you think deliberately done or error? https://trademe.tmcdn.co.nz/photoserver/full/1298262835.jpg https://trademe.tmcdn.co.nz/photoserver/full/1298262463.jpg Thanks in advance re-collectibles - 2020-03-26 09:55:00 |
| 9747 | Looks to me as if it has had some really bad corrosion that has been cleaned off a while ago leaving the worn looking areas. lester36 - 2020-03-26 09:59:00 |
| 9748 | It's an odd one. It could be the site of earlier corrosion as lester36 says, but there are still a few curious elements there - the flat spot to the left of the date, and also what looks like a raised star on the King's jaw. The star's too high up for it to have been an accidental strike with a reverse die. Possibly one to send photos of to the Australasian Coin and Banknote mag for an opinion. translateltd - 2020-03-26 12:33:00 |
| 9749 | Bump ... translateltd - 2020-04-02 16:10:00 |
| 9750 | Well I expected to be looking at Sydney coin shops today after a two week cruise. Was not to be. Instead one finds that some businesses do not understand the word 'refundable' in their contracts when you have purchased their goods and services alpha111 - 2020-04-03 11:38:00 |
