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translateltd - 2019-09-04 18:52:00

funho1 wrote:

The Courierpost website says numismatic items are on the prohibited list but are still accepted as an exception. https://trademe.tmcdn.co.nz/photoserver/full/1136589329.jpg[
/quote]

That's positive - thanks for the info.

translateltd - 2019-09-04 18:57:00

Prohibited List From NZ Post website >>>>

Valuables
Bank (eg debit, EFTPOS or credit) and gift cards*
Bullion, coins*, currency, traveller’s cheques, bonds and shares
Collectables, antiques, paintings, sculpture or other works of art*
Jewellery2, precious metals or stones, watches*
Keys*
Negotiable instruments (inc. bearer securities, bills of exchange or uncrossed cheques)
Numismatic items*
Passports and National ID cards*
Original copies of other identity, travel, ownership or legal documents*
Stamps (unused)*
Vouchers, activated cards (loaded with monetary value), tickets for games of chance, event tickets

Edited by chefman1 at 11:40 pm, Wed 4 Sep

chefman1 - 2019-09-04 23:38:00

chefman1 wrote:

Prohibited List From NZ Post website >>>>

Valuables
Bank (eg debit, EFTPOS or credit) and gift cards*
Bullion, coins*, currency, traveller’s cheques, bonds and shares
Collectables, antiques, paintings, sculpture or other works of art*
Jewellery2, precious metals or stones, watches*
Keys*
Negotiable instruments (inc. bearer securities, bills of exchange or uncrossed cheques)
Numismatic items*
Passports and National ID cards*
Original copies of other identity, travel, ownership or legal documents*
Stamps (unused)*
Vouchers, activated cards (loaded with monetary value), tickets for games of chance, event tickets

Thanks, Peter - the ones with * next to them are OK for courier transmission up to $2000 worth, though. They're just banned from ordinary post or parcel post (even tracked, which is weird).

Here's the full link:
https://www.nzpost.co.nz/personal/sending-within-nz/prohibit
ed-restricted-items

translateltd - 2019-09-05 06:08:00

Thanks everyone for the info. Much appreciated. I've had so many recent problems with couriers, One dropping a carton full of Ceramics on the ground in front of me! another delivering a parcel to me addressed to a neighbour, and a neighbour receiving a courier for me.
Am concerned about shipping bullion and Numismatics into the void.
Anyone know about courier insurance???

graemer1 - 2019-09-05 09:26:00

graemer1 wrote:

Thanks everyone for the info. Much appreciated. I've had so many recent problems with couriers, One dropping a carton full of Ceramics on the ground in front of me! another delivering a parcel to me addressed to a neighbour, and a neighbour receiving a courier for me.
Am concerned about shipping bullion and Numismatics into the void.
Anyone know about courier insurance???

In theory, based on the above NZP page, you should be covered up to the stated limits as long as you comply with their packaging conditions (and you may need to pay extra for consignments worth more than $250). That's just my interpretation though.

translateltd - 2019-09-05 11:48:00

So who will delivery my new debit card next year?

wasgonna - 2019-09-05 11:58:00

wasgonna wrote:

So who will delivery my new debit card next year?

Yep, the banks are clearly in violation.

translateltd - 2019-09-05 13:12:00

2295210250 Here we go again . Why are people so gullible OR ARE THEY JUST STUPID

lester36 - 2019-09-05 20:10:00

just finish reading all the reds feedbacks lol I see he does not refund there money back and trademe will not help them either.

chefman1 - 2019-09-05 20:22:00

2297028257 Check it out if it is real is he not taking a risk?

lester36 - 2019-09-06 07:59:00

lester36 wrote:

2297028257 Check it out if it is real is he not taking a risk?

Not sure I like the look of the numbers in the date but you never know. It's had a hell of a battering if it's real.

translateltd - 2019-09-06 08:11:00

lester36 wrote:

2295210250 Here we go again . Why are people so gullible OR ARE THEY JUST STUPID

Some people don't read the descriptions carefully - even though the description is misleading it should be pretty clear it isn't what it might seem at first glance. Frustrating though it is, I'm starting to ask myself if they really need protecting from themselves. It may be a hard lesson but we can't do the learning for them, unfortunately.

translateltd - 2019-09-06 08:14:00

translateltd wrote:

Not sure I like the look of the numbers in the date but you never know. It's had a hell of a battering if it's real.

And just happens to be the main details obscured except to show the teaser, and hell, seller would have to unpack the package, Now that's just not on ,imagine the inconvenience caused by that

Edited by gammoner at 1:26 pm, Fri 6 Sep

gammoner - 2019-09-06 13:23:00

translateltd wrote:

Some people don't read the descriptions carefully - even though the description is misleading it should be pretty clear it isn't what it might seem at first glance. Frustrating though it is, I'm starting to ask myself if they really need protecting from themselves. It may be a hard lesson but we can't do the learning for them, unfortunately.

Another double digit number of unanswered, confused members questions.

gammoner - 2019-09-06 13:26:00

Auction number 2297028257 the 1935 crown if you go back to post 9510 the photos I took of a fake 1935 crown you will see the same 3 & 5 on his one too so its not real at all.
going back last year there were quite a few fake 1935 crowns around I put a few on my watchlist to see who was buying them guest what ? yes you are right.

chefman1 - 2019-09-06 19:13:00

2297028257 top bid of $225.00 and some interesting question's and answer's some one is going to be piss off when they get it lol.

chefman1 - 2019-09-08 12:59:00

chefman1 wrote:

2297028257 top bid of $225.00 and some interesting question's and answer's some one is going to be piss off when they get it lol.

I actually know him, I will ask him his opinion and report back

Edited by lester36 at 3:46 pm, Sun 8 Sep

lester36 - 2019-09-08 15:46:00

lester36 wrote:

I actually know him, I will ask him his opinion and report back

Is he the sort of person to deliberately mislead?

chrisr5 - 2019-09-08 23:07:00

The guy that won the auction is the guy I know , No not at all he is a good guy.

lester36 - 2019-09-09 06:56:00

lester36 wrote:

The guy that won the auction is the guy I know , No not at all he is a good guy.

My bad, I thought you meant the seller

chrisr5 - 2019-09-09 10:17:00

Going thru a tin of old coins, I guess ranging from the late 19th century up until this decade, the coins are from all over the world, Spain/Germany/UK/USA/OZ/NZ/Fij-
i and some from countries that i cant figure out.

I know the value of coins goes by many factors, condition/ low mintage/where they were minted/ error coins etc.

I would just like to know of a few decent websites, that I could use to check these coins.

brett21 - 2019-09-09 15:35:00

brett21 wrote:

Going thru a tin of old coins, I guess ranging from the late 19th century up until this decade, the coins are from all over the world, Spain/Germany/UK/USA/OZ/NZ/Fij-
i and some from countries that i cant figure out.

I know the value of coins goes by many factors, condition/ low mintage/where they were minted/ error coins etc.

I would just like to know of a few decent websites, that I could use to check these coins.

I'd recommend old tech first: see if your public library has the Standard Catalog of World Coins by Krause and Mishler. Even if it's out of date you'll still get an idea of what stands out from the pack.

translateltd - 2019-09-09 15:49:00

translateltd wrote:

I'd recommend old tech first: see if your public library has the Standard Catalog of World Coins by Krause and Mishler. Even if it's out of date you'll still get an idea of what stands out from the pack.

Cheers.

brett21 - 2019-09-09 16:02:00

brett21 wrote:

Going thru a tin of old coins, I guess ranging from the late 19th century up until this decade, the coins are from all over the world, Spain/Germany/UK/USA/OZ/NZ/Fij-
i and some from countries that i cant figure out.

I know the value of coins goes by many factors, condition/ low mintage/where they were minted/ error coins etc.

I would just like to know of a few decent websites, that I could use to check these coins.

Here's a handy site. Takes a little getting used to. It's based out of the US, so any US coins will be best searched via their search tool specifically for US coins.
https://www.ngccoin.com/price-guide/world/

Bear in mind that most values you find will be insurance replacement value, so think top retail value. If you plan to sell, set half that as a target. If you get more, you're doing well. You might get less than half.

Here's another good site for US coins:
https://www.pcgs.com/prices/us

echoriath - 2019-09-13 23:03:00

While they were retooling the one dollar dies after the 2013 fiasco, the 2015 two dollar dies started to fall apart.

https://trademe.tmcdn.co.nz/photoserver/full/1146040596.jpg

I wonder how far this cud will go? There's also a die crack forming off the bottom right of the effigy.

Edited by echoriath at 11:11 pm, Fri 13 Sep

echoriath - 2019-09-13 23:06:00

Hi. Can you tell me if a 1944 half penny and 1944 threepenny piece are worth anything, both NZ coins.

ellenitter - 2019-09-15 18:16:00

ellenitter wrote:

Hi. Can you tell me if a 1944 half penny and 1944 threepenny piece are worth anything, both NZ coins.

About couple of dollars each for ave/cir condition, more $$ if they are in very good condition, 1944 threepence has 50% silver content in it hope that helps you out cheers

chefman1 - 2019-09-15 20:04:00

chefman1 wrote:

About couple of dollars each for ave/cir condition, more $$ if they are in very good condition, 1944 threepence has 50% silver content in it hope that helps you out cheers

Hi Peter, but probably worth more than this listing lol
2308125817

gammoner - 2019-09-19 12:44:00

gammoner wrote:

Hi Peter, but probably worth more than this listing lol
2308125817

25 to 33 carats? or 25 carrots, three turnips and a mango?

translateltd - 2019-09-19 13:31:00

translateltd wrote:

25 to 33 carats? or 25 carrots, three turnips and a mango?

Your onto it Martin, Hahaha

gammoner - 2019-09-19 13:35:00

But to sellers credit, they are only on negative feedback, guess that is ok as we now have negative interest returns
seller is just guaranteeing you will get back less than you put in.

gammoner - 2019-09-19 13:38:00

If you want to contact him to discuss, on his other auction his mobile number is helpfully included.

funho1 - 2019-09-19 14:53:00

Just did a rough count up of price for the gold amounts/price as in answer to a question and I get a total of $884,426.06 seems to be a good investment.
That is probably why someone has bid .
I may be tempted myself . YEAR RITE.

lester36 - 2019-09-19 16:08:00

funho1 wrote:

If you want to contact him to discuss, on his other auction his mobile number is helpfully included.

Oh yes, the toilet plumbing fittings.
Makes sense now, everything else has gone down the waste pipe .
There is more colour in my grand daughters nappie than their gold bars

gammoner - 2019-09-19 16:31:00

Coin and Stamp Fair Saturday 21st Sept (Tomorrow)
9.00 am until 4.00 pm
Wesley Church Centre.
13th Ave.,
Tauranga

All welcome

lester36 - 2019-09-20 13:20:00

lester36 wrote:

I actually know him, I will ask him his opinion and report back

Had a talk to him today ,And he thought he would take a punt BUT no it ain't real.

lester36 - 2019-09-22 12:25:00

Would be interested to know the provenance of this one, assuming it's genuine: 2324841546
A proof gold £5 sitting in the palm of someone's hand makes me wince just a little.

translateltd - 2019-09-22 13:53:00

translateltd wrote:

Would be interested to know the provenance of this one, assuming it's genuine: 2324841546
A proof gold £5 sitting in the palm of someone's hand makes me wince just a little.

Dollar Dealer Pawnshops don't handle coins with cotton gloves.
I am more worried about Georges apparent pimple or boil.

gammoner - 2019-09-22 17:43:00

Guess would fall under the impaired and blemished proof scale.
With only 5500 minted , is still a very sought after coin

gammoner - 2019-09-22 17:48:00

Hi have alot of last currency coins 50, 20, 10, 5, 2, 1 cent pieces
Pennies, half pennies etc..
foreign coins
I don't know what to do with them or any value and there are dozens and dozens of them all bagged up.
They were my mums whom I was caring for and she passed away well over 12 months ago.

blak_katzzz - 2019-09-24 18:13:00

2326398088
I've asked for a source for the quoted mintage figure in case the catalogue needs updating.

translateltd - 2019-09-26 09:12:00

Any tips for distinguishing real gold coins vs Chinese Tungsten gold plated coins, other than the "ping" test. I cannot hear the difference between a sovereign and a penny! Any advice would be appreciated.

numismatic1985 - 2019-09-26 14:40:00

numismatic1985 wrote:

Any tips for distinguishing real gold coins vs Chinese Tungsten gold plated coins, other than the "ping" test. I cannot hear the difference between a sovereign and a penny! Any advice would be appreciated.

I hope someone more experienced than I am will be able to offer some thoughts. I suspect telling gold and plated tungsten apart will not be easy, since the two metals have a similar weight and specific gravity.

Distinguishing the metals in sovereigns and pennies should be more straightforward, even just on a weight-for-size basis :-)

translateltd - 2019-09-28 14:59:00

numismatic1985 wrote:

Any tips for distinguishing real gold coins vs Chinese Tungsten gold plated coins, other than the "ping" test. I cannot hear the difference between a sovereign and a penny! Any advice would be appreciated.

Having a known genuine to compare to always helps.

Most of the ping tests seem to involve striking 2 coins so probably not such a good idea for a coin you are collecting for appearance rather than bullion.

I've never tried with gold but both silver and gold are diamagnetic and of the same order of susceptibility. You can almost pick up a silver coin and flip it with a good rare earth magnet. Basically, place silver coin on a flat surface, bring rare earth magnet very close to silver coin and pull it away very fast. I wonder if you can do the same with a gold coin. Tungsten is paramagnetic so shouldn't do that but again would be worth practicing with known examples.......

This looks interesting too -

https://www.amazon.com/Internal-Coin-Scanner-Tester-see-Krug
errands/dp/B01CT63GAI

https://thegoldlock.com/product/gold-and-silver-coin-scanner
-kit/

chrisr5 - 2019-10-05 14:59:00

PS I'm guessing a sovereign would be hard to fake as striking tungsten and then plating would be hard to do well given it's thickness.

Thicker coins you could probably do as a tungsten clad gold coin I guess

chrisr5 - 2019-10-05 15:03:00

Hi, Just came across banknotes that have been water pressed, don't know anything about that, can someone tell me about it thanks.

35 - 2019-10-09 18:34:00

35 wrote:

Hi, Just came across banknotes that have been water pressed, don't know anything about that, can someone tell me about it thanks.

Not a term I was familiar with, but it seems to refer to wetting and then ironing them - not really a good practice. There are numerous refs on-line:
http://www.coinpeople.com/topic/7527-improving-banknotes-pre
ssing-part-2/
http://www.coinpeople.com/topic/13291-uncirculated-bank-note
s/

translateltd - 2019-10-10 06:36:00

Must be money laundering if they are being ironed.

wasgonna - 2019-10-10 09:11:00

The kind of "flattery" that doesn't get you anywhere in the world of notaphily.

translateltd - 2019-10-10 09:47:00