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Welcome to the Coin Club. We are an assortment of newbies and oldbies, amateurs and experts with questions and answers for oldbies and newbies, amateurs and experts in coin collecting, also known as numismatics. Whether you are just getting started, have been collecting for years or have simply found some old coins about the place that you’d like to sell, this is the place to ask your questions.

No one has all the answers, and you may get five differing answers to the same question, yet each may be right in a manner of speaking, especially if opinions are involved. Opinions often vary. If you receive no answer to your query within 48 hours, please ask again.

translateltd - 2018-10-10 06:43:00
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Hi all,

So I have a 1917 gold sovereign I would like to get graded/valued (i think it has a Perth mint mark). Is there anyone in Auckland (ideally central) I could take it to?

trade1gain2 - 2018-10-10 17:10:00
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Try "Eccles Coins & Banknotes" at Level 1, Queens Arcade, 17 Customs Street East, Auckland.

If they're still there.

wasgonna - 2018-10-10 19:37:00
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trade1gain2 wrote:

Hi all,

So I have a 1917 gold sovereign I would like to get graded/valued (i think it has a Perth mint mark). Is there anyone in Auckland (ideally central) I could take it to?


https://www.perthmint.com/catalogue/1917-king-george-v-perth
-mint-gold-sovereign.aspx

Is This what you have if so what condition is yours in? do you have a photo of it please ... cheers chef

Edited by chefman1 at 9:35 pm, Wed 10 Oct

chefman1 - 2018-10-10 21:31:00
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chefman1 wrote:


https://www.perthmint.com/catalogue/1917-king-george-v-perth
-mint-gold-sovereign.aspx

Is This what you have if so what condition is yours in? do you have a photo of it please ... cheers chef

https://imgur.com/a/tk7U8EG

It was stored loosely next to other coins(gold) so that is probably behind the scratches.

trade1gain2 - 2018-10-11 08:34:00
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Was there a packing error in the 20x 50 Armistice 2018 coins, commemorative circulating roll, The roll l have , the 2 ends are the same .person head showing , not the poppy . My friend one has 1 end poppy and the other end person head.

doingthing - 2018-10-12 12:33:00
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doingthing wrote:

Was there a packing error in the 20x 50 Armistice 2018 coins, commemorative circulating roll, The roll l have , the 2 ends are the same .person head showing , not the poppy . My friend one has 1 end poppy and the other end person head.

I have this also with the Armistice roll, received today. Which would bo ok but I actually wanted to see the coin lol.

I have it also with an Anzac roll but can see both sides on another roll.

Also curious to know why you get a mixture of heads or tails, I would have thought machine packed would be precise.

sharee9 - 2018-10-12 13:14:00
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sharee9 wrote:

I have this also with the Armistice roll, received today. Which would bo ok but I actually wanted to see the coin lol.

I have it also with an Anzac roll but can see both sides on another roll.

Also curious to know why you get a mixture of heads or tails, I would have thought machine packed would be precise.

Mine are the same the Queens head on each end, and my 2015 roll is the same

topseycat - 2018-10-12 18:50:00
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doingthing wrote:

Was there a packing error in the 20x 50 Armistice 2018 coins, commemorative circulating roll, The roll l have , the 2 ends are the same .person head showing , not the poppy . My friend one has 1 end poppy and the other end person head.

I think it's luck of the draw. The machines can't pick which side is which so you can get obverse/reverse combinations and also obv/obv and rev/rev.

translateltd - 2018-10-12 19:34:00
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Eccles Coins and Banknotes have moved across the road from Queen's Arcade. Current address is Ground Floor, Dingwall Building, 87-93 Queen Street, Ph 09 373 2320.

numismatic - 2018-10-12 20:54:00
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Are they rare? Queens head on each end.

doingthing - 2018-10-12 21:26:00
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doingthing wrote:

Are they rare? Queens head on each end.

It would be interesting to see how many of each people get. In theory it should be an even three-way split. But is it?

translateltd - 2018-10-13 08:18:00
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translateltd wrote:

It would be interesting to see how many of each people get. In theory it should be an even three-way split. But is it?

I've seen a total of four rolls in real life so far. Two are O-R and two are R-R.

translateltd - 2018-10-13 10:22:00
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Who would, l have to ask if they are rare .

doingthing - 2018-10-13 10:32:00
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doingthing wrote:

Who would, l have to ask if they are rare .

Don't think anybody could say at this stage as not enough data in to confirm.
Laws of probability suggest otherwise to being rare

gammoner - 2018-10-13 15:19:00
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What coin face occurs at the end of the roll of the 2018 50c is purely a matter of luck and is of little concern. What does concern me, though, are the number of listings on TM that refer to this coin (NZ 2018 50c) as an ANZAC 50c! I wonder if it's through ignorance or an attempt to defraud buyers. I have questioned 1 or 2 of these listings, as have others, but the sellers don't seem to be bothered to answer. Cheers, taidhg

taidhg - 2018-10-13 16:22:00
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taidhg wrote:

What does concern me, though, are the number of listings on TM that refer to this coin (NZ 2018 50c) as an ANZAC 50c! I wonder if it's through ignorance or an attempt to defraud buyers. I have questioned 1 or 2 of these listings, as have others, but the sellers don't seem to be bothered to answer. Cheers, taidhg

I'd go for ignorance - Armistice is far too hard a word and pretty much all anyone hears about with regard to WW1 relates to the ANZACs, so it's hardly surprising.

translateltd - 2018-10-13 22:16:00
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taidhg wrote:

What coin face occurs at the end of the roll of the 2018 50c is purely a matter of luck and is of little concern. What does concern me, though, are the number of listings on TM that refer to this coin (NZ 2018 50c) as an ANZAC 50c! I wonder if it's through ignorance or an attempt to defraud buyers. I have questioned 1 or 2 of these listings, as have others, but the sellers don't seem to be bothered to answer. Cheers, taidhg

Defraud is a pretty strong and emotive word to describe something that is probably quite innocent.

amk - 2018-10-14 07:30:00
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where have all of the Armistice rolls gone???

amk - 2018-10-14 18:18:00
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amk wrote:

where have all of the Armistice rolls gone???

"Long time passing ..."

I suspect we'll find out in due course.

translateltd - 2018-10-14 21:54:00
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.... I mean for sale on Trademe. There is not a single roll on offer.

amk - 2018-10-14 22:09:00
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amk wrote:

.... I mean for sale on Trademe. There is not a single roll on offer.

Everyone is waiting with bated breath to see if they have the rare roll lol

gammoner - 2018-10-14 22:36:00
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amk wrote:

Defraud is a pretty strong and emotive word to describe something that is probably quite innocent.

Hard to tell, the number of listings that pretend ignorance as an attempt to defraud always raise one's suspicion.

Just take the vast majority of the 'I inherited it from my dearly departed grandpa who was an avid collector' style auctions attempting to sell recent fakes.

chrisr5 - 2018-10-14 23:30:00
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amk wrote:

.... I mean for sale on Trademe. There is not a single roll on offer.


Trade Me are withdrawing any listings of Armistice rolls till after the 11 November, at the request of Reserve Bank.

Edited by twg1935 at 11:46 pm, Sun 14 Oct

twg1935 - 2018-10-14 23:45:00
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twg1935 wrote:


Trade Me are withdrawing any listings of Armistice rolls till after the 11 November, at the request of Reserve Bank.


When did the Reserve Bank take control of the running of Trademe??

amk - 2018-10-15 09:24:00
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Alan Below is the email from Trade Me. When I rang and complained, they got back to me with the request was made by Reserve Bank to restrict sales of more than 5 coins till after Armistice Day.
Couldn't believe it!!!

Frankie (Trust and Safety)
Oct 11, 17:53 NZDT
Hi Gary,
I‘m getting in touch about your listing(s) on Trade Me:
ARMISTICE 2018 50c Coin Unopened Roll of 20 (#1798813033)
We note that you've listed a large quantity of Armistice Day Commemorative Coins on the site.
The Reserve Bank has raised concern about this as it would appear there has been some intervention in the planned distribution process of these coins.
This is completely counter to the spirit of releasing the coin to the public to commemorate the many New Zealanders who sacrificed their life during World War I.
Given this, Trade Me has removed this listing to protect the integrity and respect associated with Armistice Day. Any relevant listing fees have been refunded to your Trade Me account.
We are imposing a limit of 5 coins may be sold per member in total. You are welcome to create a new listing accordingly.

twg1935 - 2018-10-15 09:50:00
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Well, the RB/NZP did limit sales to two rolls per customer to try and ensure a fairer distribution than happened last time, when box after box disappeared into dealers' stocks, so I can understand their concern. Interesting that they've leaned on TM to enforce it, all the same.

translateltd - 2018-10-15 11:33:00
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Hello Martin .... just letting you know NZ POST is only limiting one roll per customer not two rolls i got a phone call from them to tell me its only one roll only i pay for two yes got refund from them. cheers Peter

chefman1 - 2018-10-15 16:43:00
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chefman1 wrote:

Hello Martin .... just letting you know NZ POST is only limiting one roll per customer not two rolls i got a phone call from them to tell me its only one roll only i pay for two yes got refund from them. cheers Peter

So it's even tighter, then - thanks, Peter.

translateltd - 2018-10-15 16:57:00
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Aside from the novelty of getting them first and the possibility (however remote) of getting errors before they're noticed by the Reserve Bank, is there really any likelihood that ANZAC or Armistice coins are ever going to appreciate significantly? They're a bit like memorabilia from highly publicised coronations or royal weddings: overproduced and hoarded by every man and his dog on the presupposition that they must increase in value over time.

That's not to say I have not set aside some rolls of ANZAC coins. I like to release a few into circulation every ANZAC Day, though I forgot to do so this year. I'll hold onto a few in the end. Same with the Armistice coins, but I can't imagine such commemorative coins with such relatively high mintages released ostensibly for circulation will ever be worth more than a smidgen above face.

echoriath - 2018-10-15 20:15:00
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echoriath wrote:

I can't imagine such commemorative coins with such relatively high mintages released ostensibly for circulation will ever be worth more than a smidgen above face.

While none of us are going to get rich off them, surely that's the ideal outcome with circulating commemoratives. Little or no margin will mean they're all the more likely to actually circulate as intended.

translateltd - 2018-10-15 20:18:00
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I like that they're doing them, but I hope they don't go nutso with it like the state quarter series. I gave up trying to worry about acquiring all the quarters (state commemorative, national parks, largest balls of thread, etc.), but I do always top up my Kennedy Halves when I return to the US, as they have severely curtailed production and no longer release them for circulation. Just the fact that they are a bit of a challenge to acquire points towards an eventual uptick in value. Similarly, in US coinage I find the Native American Dollar series to be one of the few other things worth tracking down.

echoriath - 2018-10-15 20:24:00
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Has anyone noticed that whilst Bahamas 'Mules' are regularly offered on TM but that no one ever seems to include the Bahamas 5c 1966 coin that the die was supposed to be used for. I would have thought that they make a nice pair.

nznotes - 2018-10-16 12:32:00
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nznotes wrote:

Has anyone noticed that whilst Bahamas 'Mules' are regularly offered on TM but that no one ever seems to include the Bahamas 5c 1966 coin that the die was supposed to be used for. I would have thought that they make a nice pair.

My memory may be playing tricks (it's been known), but I'm sure I saw a listing for exactly that combination recently. Agreed it's nice to see them in context like that.

translateltd - 2018-10-17 15:43:00
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translateltd wrote:

My memory may be playing tricks (it's been known), but I'm sure I saw a listing for exactly that combination recently. Agreed it's nice to see them in context like that.


Your right Martin, I saw the same listing

gammoner - 2018-10-17 17:32:00
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someone got a whole box of them!
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Rare-Box-of-50-Rolls-of-2018-New-Ze
aland-50-Cent-Armistice-Commemorative-Coins/153218143675?has
h=item23ac8355bb:g:22AAAOSwCsRbwvvk:rk:19:pf:0#shId

dtpapa - 2018-10-18 13:24:00
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I've got a 1966 Bahamas 5c which I think I got when I purchased a mule from John Bertrand a while ago.

dtpapa - 2018-10-18 13:31:00
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dtpapa wrote:

someone got a whole box of them!
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Rare-Box-of-50-Rolls-of-2018-New-Ze
aland-50-Cent-Armistice-Commemorative-Coins/153218143675?has
h=item23ac8355bb:g:22AAAOSwCsRbwvvk:rk:19:pf:0#shId

Had to happen.

Edited by translateltd at 2:41 pm, Thu 18 Oct

translateltd - 2018-10-18 14:40:00
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50 rolls of 2018 50c!!!! How could this happen? I placed an order with NZ Post for 100 rolls of these coins way back in August the first day they were announced they were taking orders. My order was initially accepted then later reduced to 2 rolls. 50 rolls in someone's hands sounds a bit fishy to me. Cheers, taidhg

taidhg - 2018-10-18 15:20:00
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taidhg wrote:

50 rolls of 2018 50c!!!! How could this happen? I placed an order with NZ Post for 100 rolls of these coins way back in August the first day they were announced they were taking orders. My order was initially accepted then later reduced to 2 rolls. 50 rolls in someone's hands sounds a bit fishy to me. Cheers, taidhg

How many are each post shop getting? Wouldn't be surprised if someone (or even the staff) just walked into a small town one and just asked for it.

trade1gain2 - 2018-10-18 16:05:00
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I originally posted this message as a separate item in "Collectors' forum" but did not receive any responses. A member has suggested my posting may attract more attention if it is placed as a "Coin Club" item so here goes:

Can anyone assist in giving me an indication of the demand for the tokens shown in the attached pics and their likely value.
I have done quite a bit of research on Google but the values seem to have such a wide range that it is difficult for someone unfamiliar with this market to know where the truth lies. As an example, on Ebay the H. Somerville token is shown as ranging from USD175 to GBP15. Undoubtedly the condition of the tokens will have a major impact but to my untrained eye there was not a great deal of variation in the pics I examined. I would also imagine the auction "wish" reserves may be overly optimistic so if there is someone with practical, current experience your advice would be very welcome.

https://trademe.tmcdn.co.nz/photoserver/full/885551406.jpg
https://trademe.tmcdn.co.nz/photoserver/full/885551784.jpg
https://trademe.tmcdn.co.nz/photoserver/full/885561130.jpg

Thanks

trele - 2018-10-18 20:17:00
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trade1gain2 wrote:

How many are each post shop getting? Wouldn't be surprised if someone (or even the staff) just walked into a small town one and just asked for it.

I visited 3, and only 1 had any stock. And they wouldn't let me get more than a single roll. (I asked for a few loose ones too and they said no.)

enserf - 2018-10-18 20:44:00
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trele wrote:

I originally posted this message as a separate item in "Collectors' forum" but did not receive any responses. A member has suggested my posting may attract more attention if it is placed as a "Coin Club" item so here goes:

Can anyone assist in giving me an indication of the demand for the tokens shown in the attached pics and their likely value.
I have done quite a bit of research on Google but the values seem to have such a wide range that it is difficult for someone unfamiliar with this market to know where the truth lies. As an example, on Ebay the H. Somerville token is shown as ranging from USD175 to GBP15. Undoubtedly the condition of the tokens will have a major impact but to my untrained eye there was not a great deal of variation in the pics I examined. I would also imagine the auction "wish" reserves may be overly optimistic so if there is someone with practical, current experience your advice would be very welcome.

https://trademe.tmcdn.co.nz/photoserver/full/885551406.jpg
https://trademe.tmcdn.co.nz/photoserver/full/885551784.jpg
https://trademe.tmcdn.co.nz/photoserver/full/885561130.jpg

Thanks

The Somerville item catalogues at NZ$15 in VG, which is about the range your item is in - it's quite worn and looks to have traces of corrosion, sadly, so it's unlikely to be in much demand, since it's one of the commoner tokens and presumably a little easier to get in higher grades. I can't speak for the Aussie items without spending a bit of time on the catalogues. If no-one comes up with anything in the meantime I can have a look after the weekend for you.

translateltd - 2018-10-18 20:51:00
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Are you allowed to put requests for specific coins on here to see if anyone has one?

suenz75 - 2018-10-20 09:57:00
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No problem with requests but you'll have to ask for a listing to purchase as TM won't allow contact with seller. They need the fees to make squillions.

wasgonna - 2018-10-20 10:53:00
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wasgonna wrote:

No problem with requests but you'll have to ask for a listing to purchase as TM won't allow contact with seller. They need the fees to make squillions.

Cool thank you :-)

suenz75 - 2018-10-20 17:17:00
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****Wanted**** Does anyone have a 1974 Peruvian coin that they could list for me please? I don't care what coin it is as long as it's from Peru, from 1974 and in reasonably good order because I want to get it made into a gift for someone. TIA. Sue

suenz75 - 2018-10-20 17:22:00
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I recently found over $2000 of old banknotes & coins under the lino when I was clearing out mothers home
What do I do with it as all are old
Cheers

banjo2002 - 2018-10-21 13:28:00
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banjo2002 wrote:

I recently found over $2000 of old banknotes & coins under the lino when I was clearing out mothers home
What do I do with it as all are old
Cheers


List the serial numbers here so we can work out what you have.

nznotes - 2018-10-22 21:37:00
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Over we go.

echoriath - 2018-10-22 22:14:00
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