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Welcome to the Coin Club. We are an assortment of newbies, amateurs and experts with questions and answers for newbies, amateurs and experts in coin collecting, also known as numismatics. Whether you are just getting started, have been collecting for years or have simply found some old coins about the place that you’d like to sell, this is the place to ask your questions.

No one has all the answers, and you may get five differing answers to the same question, yet each may be right in a manner of speaking, especially if opinions are involved. Opinions often vary. If you receive no answer to your query within 48 hours, please ask again

chefman1 - 2012-12-07 21:44:00
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well chris...i did my bit...got ya..again..lol

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chefman1 - 2012-12-07 21:47:00
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chefman1 wrote:

well chris...i did my bit...got ya..again..lol

I'm saving my energy for the dash to a 1000. I hope you haven't peaked to soon.....

chrisr5 - 2012-12-07 23:24:00
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lester36 wrote:

I saw that one it was so obviously home made. Is there not a law against tampering with current coinage.

Those laws can be a bit funny. From memory, in the US, the general gist is that mutilating/altering money with the intent to deceive is illegal, but my understanding is that "expired" notes are actually incinerated. I'm not sure what the rules are here.

echoriath - 2012-12-07 23:31:00
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echoriath wrote:

Those laws can be a bit funny. From memory, in the US, the general gist is that mutilating/altering money with the intent to deceive is illegal, but my understanding is that "expired" notes are actually incinerated. I'm not sure what the rules are here.

As I found out much to my chagrin that I couldn't gild a "no cents" V nickel and pretend it was a gold coin.

chrisr5 - 2012-12-08 14:45:00
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Here's a question for ya - How the hell do you manage to delete negative feedback?.........just a joke.

brucie69 - 2012-12-08 19:31:00
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brucie69 wrote:

Here's a question for ya - How the hell do you manage to delete negative feedback?.........just a joke.

You get someone from TM to do it if the person who leaves it doesn't want to remove it. TM seem to be having a run of deleting negative feedback that is considered retaliatory. From what I've seen its not always entirely fair.

TM deleted some red feedback placed on me, but I was quite happy leaving it there as it spoke more about the other trader. They were an alternative identity and both trader accounts have been suspended but they are back with a new identity!

Edited by chrisr5 at 8:26 pm, Sat 8 Dec

chrisr5 - 2012-12-08 20:25:00
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chrisr5 wrote:

You get someone from TM to do it if the person who leaves it doesn't want to remove it. TM seem to be having a run of deleting negative feedback that is considered retaliatory. From what I've seen its not always entirely fair.

TM deleted some red feedback placed on me, but I was quite happy leaving it there as it spoke more about the other trader. They were an alternative identity and both trader accounts have been suspended but they are back with a new identity!

I thought the whole point of feedback was to give potential customers an idea of what they might be getting into!!?? all smoke and mirrors, my view of TM has dropped to an all time low

brucie69 - 2012-12-08 21:58:00
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Well, the important thing about feedback you leave is that it has to be impartial and fact-based. It's very easy to let emotion get in the way when things have gone pear-shaped. I left a blue for a coin seller that I felt mucked me about. I ended up returning an item that was not as described and getting the refund took a bit of pressure from my end.

He had left a positive for me rather late in the game. I ended up leaving a blue with a straight-forward explanation. In response, he edited his positive to a negative for me and was pretty unambiguous that it was in retaliation for the feedback I left. Mine for him is still there. The red he left me is gone.

On the rare occasions I have left anything other than a yellow, I often type it up in Word and let it sit for 24 hours. Then i take another look and make sure it's right, and not angry. If it is a justifiably infuriating situation accurately described, that should be obvious to anyone that reads it.

echoriath - 2012-12-08 22:30:00
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Alright, as we wind down the year, take a moment to brag. Lester showed off his half farthing yesterpage. I think I got this a couple years ago now:

http://images.trademe.co.nz/photoserver/full/245337125.jpg

Note the secondary ring that takes out part of the hind leg. It actually manifests on both sides. I wish the condition was a bit better, but it's still an interesting little error.

I'll have to have a poke around and see what I've gotten THIS year and post a decent photo.

What have the rest of us found? Go on, strut your stuff.

Edited by echoriath at 10:27 pm, Sun 9 Dec

echoriath - 2012-12-09 22:26:00
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50 cent find at Flea market
http://images.trademe.co.nz/photoserver/full/245340184.jpg
http://images.trademe.co.nz/photoserver/full/245340139.jpg
I know it is worn but still 28.5 ish grams of .925

lester36 - 2012-12-09 22:50:00
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2 nice coins.

Echoriath - is that a double struck coin then?

Lester36 - You certainly can't complain for 50 cents and it's still got appeal, especially the obverse.

chrisr5 - 2012-12-09 23:13:00
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Nice score, lester!

No, chris, I think it's to do with a muck-up when upturning the rim, which happens before the image is stamped into the coin. naira offered up an explanation of it the last time I posted a photo, then asked if I would sell it.

A lot of Buffs had issues, from die rotations as much as 180 degrees (yes, some are actually medal rotation), to weaker dies that might have a technically UNC coin lacking a remarkable amount of detail, e.g., little or no definition in the braid to speak of, not to mention die cracks aplenty. I've seen more die cracks in Buffs than anything else from the US in the 20th century. My FB image is a 1925-S that I make a minimum AU, but the definition is remarkably poor. There's also a die crack in it.

You'll note in the Red Book that certain Buffs with higher definition are worth more than prices listed. The problems seemed especially apparent with certain Denver and San Fran issues. I think most of them from those mints from 20-26 or so are often quite poor

I think part of the problem with Buffs was because of the metal, though you don't find the same number or type of issues in the Liberty Head series, nor in the Jeffersons.

Edited by echoriath at 12:00 am, Mon 10 Dec

echoriath - 2012-12-09 23:56:00
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This came in $5 uncirculated set.

http://images.trademe.co.nz/photoserver/full/245346865.jpg

A 1967 no sea to the right 5c.

Regarding buffs - you could probably dedicate a lot of time to just collecting them, there's a lot to them.

Edited by chrisr5 at 12:18 am, Mon 10 Dec

chrisr5 - 2012-12-10 00:15:00
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Nice! It's good to see quality photos of some of these NZ errors.

Yes, I have found myself collecting a lot of Buffs almost by default. Non-silver US coins seem not that popular outside the US, which plays to the advantage of anyone that wants to have a go with them. Crud, did I say that out loud? The downside is that I probably need a bay account to sell them to ostensible US buyers.

I'm a bit of a Buff buff who is frequently in the buff. I think I have said enough.

echoriath - 2012-12-10 00:33:00
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Aside from the numerous die crack errors it about my only NZ error coin. There were some very nice broke back shillings the other day and I totally forgot to bid (doh!).

I think you're very right about non silver us. Non silver in general seems out of fashion at the moment. I recently got a ?fine example of a large cent for about the price of the silver in the barber quarters halves and Morgan dollar. I was we'll chuffed.

As for your 'poem' - very good just don't try for any buff carrying records in that state!

Edited by chrisr5 at 8:01 am, Mon 10 Dec

chrisr5 - 2012-12-10 08:00:00
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An interesting description in this lot.
http://www.trademe.co.nz/antiques-collectables/coins/usa/auc
tion-541828459.htm

twg1935 - 2012-12-10 10:14:00
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twg1935 wrote:

An interesting description in this lot.
http://www.trademe.co.nz/antiques-collectables/coins/usa/auc
tion-541828459.htm

Rebel58 does all the best listings! That get my vote for best auction of the year!

chrisr5 - 2012-12-10 10:33:00
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localinda - 2012-12-10 15:42:00
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oldecurb - 2012-12-10 23:17:00
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napierdude12 - 2012-12-10 23:32:00
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napierdude12 wrote:

i have this coin USA One Dime Coin with date 1985 is it worth anythink?????


HERE YOU GO NAPIERDUDE CLICK ON THE LINK AND YOU WILL FINE YOUR ANSWER IN THERE >>>>>
http://www.trademe.co.nz/Community/MessageBoard/Messages.asp
x?id=1171712&topic=16

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chefman1 - 2012-12-11 01:17:00
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localinda - 2012-12-11 10:17:00
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localinda wrote:

I have a 1921 Australian sixpence, it's not really in a good condition though, would it be worth anything?

It's definitely been used and is quite dirty, I think the writing has even faded/rubbed off a bit


hi localinda,your 1921 sixpence is worth about $2.00-$3.00 in that condition,there were 3.79 millon minted in that year,hope that helps you out cheers

Edited by chefman1 at 10:40 am, Tue 11 Dec

chefman1 - 2012-12-11 10:40:00
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The 1918 Australian 6 pence is the one to have according to my dogalog it's worth US$50 in fine condition up to US$6000 in brilliant uncirculated. Alas sadly I don't have one......... I have a few BU 1962 Oz 6 pences but there not worth nearly as much........ :(

chrisr5 - 2012-12-11 11:07:00
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localinda - 2012-12-11 11:19:00
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napierdude12 - 2012-12-11 22:27:00
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napierdude12 wrote:

thats my own post

thats right,did you fine the answer in there??? i did

chefman1 - 2012-12-11 23:08:00
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donaldo - 2012-12-12 17:29:00
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napierdude12 - 2012-12-12 18:55:00
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napierdude12 wrote:

get a life chefman1


lololol, will did you get your answer yes or no????,i do have a life i buy and sell coins on trademe, what do you do write a post about a 1985 usa coin,you got your answer from chrisr5 did you not???

Edited by chefman1 at 7:13 pm, Wed 12 Dec

chefman1 - 2012-12-12 19:04:00
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napierdude12 wrote:

get a life chefman1

No need to get cross, he was just pointing out your question was aready answered.....

chrisr5 - 2012-12-12 20:15:00
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Went to the local general weekly auction tonight as they had some old New Zealand Paper Dollars in a lot.
$10 Millenium note
$5 Queen facing forward Brash
$5 Ed Hillary UNC Brash
$2 Brash
$1 Hardie X2
$1 Wilks
And a $1 Fiji.
Got the lot for $20
Go figure and the Ed Hillary $5 is a sequential to a note I bought there about 6 weeks ago.

lester36 - 2012-12-12 23:00:00
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donaldo wrote:

what are the views on the 'hongkong/nz 20c ' at present for sale

I can't afford it...... With only fifteen out there I guess it really is a rare coin so not a bad price.

chrisr5 - 2012-12-12 23:04:00
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donaldo - 2012-12-13 12:48:00
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donaldo wrote:

but is it genuine

That will always be a question, especially with any rare coin I guess and comes down to providence. Whilst being reticent with such information might not be encouraging there could be good reasons for it.

chrisr5 - 2012-12-13 14:59:00
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donaldo wrote:

but is it genuine

hi don,yes it is genuine,i have seen one my self in unc condition,its got to be one of the rarest coins in nz.

chefman1 - 2012-12-13 21:06:00
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donaldo - 2012-12-13 21:33:00
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chrisr5 wrote:

Hi Gheeta, With regards to your coin the condition is what will decide whether they are worth anything from a few cents to a few dollars. For example a 1942 NZ Penny in worn condition is worth a few cents but in nearly perfect is worth about $200, depending on what you are willing to part with it for and what a collector is willing to pay.

I can see you've done some research as you know about the strapless busts. Unfortunately 1956 3d is the important year for no straps, all 1955 3ds were no straps.

Not sure as to the value of the foreign coins you have. the UK 1/2 pennies can be moderately valuable in near perfect condition again, but it's very hard ot find them like that.

Hope you have some great examples, and if you want to post any pictures for an idea of grade, there is a short how to take coin pics on this page - http://www.trademe.co.nz/Community/MessageBoard/Messages.asp
x?id=1085965&p=10&topic=16

Glad you liked our hundy chasing, we're all warming up for the mad dash as the thousand approaches. We're hoping to get there before the end of the year which means a few of our more reticent members really need to start posting (you know who you are)

Hi chris, thanks for your tips!
I think the most exciting thing is finding out the info about the coins. I will post some pics soon and welcome your comments :-)

gheeta - 2012-12-14 20:05:00
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bump (helping the hundy errr thundy? chase)!

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