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the 1/2Cr is even worse in my opinion,
https://trademe.tmcdn.co.nz/photoserver/full/806495833.jpg

look at that wear!

MS 64????

dtpapa - 2018-06-06 07:36:00
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this one
https://www.ebay.com/itm/1969-Tunisia-Silver-10-Coin-Set/401
546216312?hash=item5d7e050378:g:ZgIAAOSw5UVbEVX0

dtpapa - 2018-06-06 08:30:00
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chefman1 - 2018-06-06 13:08:00
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dtpapa wrote:

this one
https://www.ebay.com/itm/1969-Tunisia-Silver-10-Coin-Set/401
546216312?hash=item5d7e050378:g:ZgIAAOSw5UVbEVX0

I recall seeing those in catalogues in the early 70s and they looked impressive. My view of them as "coins" these days probably isn't hard to guess.

Edited by translateltd at 3:20 pm, Wed 6 Jun

translateltd - 2018-06-06 15:16:00
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and what is your view of these as "coins"? 1650069724

Edited by dtpapa at 5:53 pm, Wed 6 Jun

dtpapa - 2018-06-06 17:53:00
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dtpapa wrote:

and what is your view of these as "coins"? 1650069724

I've deleted my original comment before I get into trouble. Not a fan of glorified medals commemorating anything and everything, though - colourised items still less so.

Edited by translateltd at 8:53 pm, Wed 6 Jun

translateltd - 2018-06-06 20:40:00
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I actually agree with you, those coins are tacky gimmicks low mintage inflated prices aimed at mugs!

however I think that Tunisian set is different, it is of a different era, nearly 50 years old now and has got a certain appeal, at least I reckon.

dtpapa - 2018-06-06 21:27:00
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dtpapa wrote:

however I think that Tunisian set is different, it is of a different era, nearly 50 years old now and has got a certain appeal, at least I reckon.

From days when such sets weren't a glut on the market. The start of the rot, though? My 1975 English-language version of Schön devotes several pages to this set, with historic descriptions of each. It would be impossible with the huge numbers of numismatic trinkets about now. There are apparently two different mint versions of the 1969 coins - Franklin Mint and Arezzo, and they were produced again in 1979 (presumably with a new date) for a further anniversary.

translateltd - 2018-06-07 06:14:00
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Hi guys can any one help me to find what sort of grading my London sovereign 1908 has and what the price can be? thx

homestyle2 - 2018-06-08 13:47:00
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Hi guys can any one help me to find what sort of grading my London sovereign 1908 has and what the price can be? thx

homestyle2 - 2018-06-08 13:50:00
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homestyle2 wrote:

Hi guys can any one help me to find what sort of grading my London sovereign 1908 has and what the price can be? thx

Grading from a picture has to be a bit flexible but feel free to post some links.

translateltd - 2018-06-08 16:12:00
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have any other buyers of coins on ebay noticed that NZ is ALWAYS excluded when shipping is via ebay's global shipping program? I guess we can blame NZ's pathetic sham unenforced "prohibition" on importing collector coins. A total pain in the arse for the NZ numismatic enthusiast!!

dtpapa - 2018-06-13 21:41:00
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dtpapa wrote:

have any other buyers of coins on ebay noticed that NZ is ALWAYS excluded when shipping is via ebay's global shipping program? I guess we can blame NZ's pathetic sham unenforced "prohibition" on importing collector coins. A total pain in the arse for the NZ numismatic enthusiast!!

Side issue but I asked a seller on eBay once if he'd make an exception to his "not to NZ" shipping policy and he said no, 'someone in NZ' had failed to pay him once, so the whole country was blacklisted. I arranged for him to send the item to someone I knew from a coin chat group in the US, which he did ... and that person never forwarded it to me. Perhaps I should blacklist the US on those grounds!

translateltd - 2018-06-14 06:15:00
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translateltd wrote:

I've deleted my original comment before I get into trouble. Not a fan of glorified medals commemorating anything and everything, though - colourised items still less so.

Odd. You seem to be a fan of peering through a microscope trying to spot a missing scale on a lizard's back on a coin or something similar. To each his own, I guess. Cheers, taidhg

taidhg - 2018-06-16 09:14:00
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taidhg wrote:

Odd. You seem to be a fan of peering through a microscope trying to spot a missing scale on a lizard's back on a coin or something similar. To each his own, I guess. Cheers, taidhg

Not quite to microscope level, but yup. It would be a boring place if we all had identical interests.

translateltd - 2018-06-16 09:43:00
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I used to be a "let's try and gather one example of every coin" person, but then the huge glut of commemoratives swamped the market from the late 70s or so onwards, drowning out the real coins and making the target simply unaffordable as well as not particularly interesting, to me, anyway. Between those, the colourised trinkets and the flood of Chinese forgeries I could be quite tempted to chuck it in altogether. A superficial interest in varieties at least keeps me looking at "real" coins in the meantime.

translateltd - 2018-06-16 10:23:00
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dtpapa wrote:

and what is your view of these as "coins"? 1650069724

Yeah, this represents a nexus between Tolkien memorabilia, numismatics and film marketing, and despite having a strong interest in two of the three, this interests me not at all, and that's only partly because the films were turds. In the bigger picture, I agree with Martin about the over-production of things like this. People see a niche and cram the market full of anything to fill it.

I like to think I'm more discerning. Maybe I'm just a snob.

echoriath - 2018-06-16 12:32:00
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yup that LOTR numismatic merchandise is complete crap! Thing is though with the limited mintage there will always be enough gormless idiots to keep the asking price up!!

dtpapa - 2018-06-17 09:56:00
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dtpapa wrote:

yup that LOTR numismatic merchandise is complete crap! Thing is though with the limited mintage there will always be enough gormless idiots to keep the asking price up!!

After the original 48-coin LOTR issue (or whatever the number was), I remember our contact at the RB said they'd never do it again ... but people move on and corporate memories are short.

translateltd - 2018-06-17 10:21:00
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dtpapa wrote:

yup that LOTR numismatic merchandise is complete crap! Thing is though with the limited mintage there will always be enough gormless idiots to keep the asking price up!!

,

Ok, I have seen the light,does anyone want my LOTR 3 coin gold premier set for $1

gammoner - 2018-06-17 11:32:00
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gammoner wrote:

,

Ok, I have seen the light,does anyone want my LOTR 3 coin gold premier set for $1

Somebody must ;-)

translateltd - 2018-06-17 12:02:00
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I like to "bundle" . . . 2 sets for $1.45?

wasgonna - 2018-06-17 14:11:00
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The member deleted this message.

dtpapa - 2018-06-18 19:09:00
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Listing #: 1662691875
Nice coin Dean, i see you got out bid on that one

chefman1 - 2018-06-18 22:35:00
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yes looked a decent example although photos were a bit blurred, and I suspect it was probably not as close to full red as it seemed, or appeared to seem. Guess we will not know for sure unless we ask Dave!

dtpapa - 2018-06-18 23:56:00
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"The auction for "06/1901 - DUKE & DUCHESS OF CROMWELL VISIT", which is on your watchlist, has been withdrawn by Trade Me customer support as it breached our terms and conditions."

Did anyone spot what was amiss with that listing, other than the fact it should have read Cornwall rather than Cromwell? Curious ...

translateltd - 2018-06-19 16:43:00
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I think I'm having bidders remorse over that Bahama mule, I should have bid more!!

But if it was really as nice and lustrous as the photos hint at Jessica would have mentioned it in the write up, surely?

Another point, why is the price of a BU Bahama mule listed in the Bertrand catalogue so low given the exorbitant prices quotes for most other coins in there?

dtpapa - 2018-06-22 10:57:00
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dtpapa wrote:

why is the price of a BU Bahama mule listed in the Bertrand catalogue so low

I don't have an answer, but my first thought is to ask how many recent sales of BU examples there have been, and how many have been communicated to the compilers to update the records. I pay little or no attention to what's happening with coin and banknote prices - trying to keep up with the commemorative medals is more than enough.

translateltd - 2018-06-22 18:51:00
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https://trademe.tmcdn.co.nz/photoserver/full/817680904.jpg
Hi Martin here are 3 badges for you to check.
Are they commemorative's
1/ Wrightson Bloodstock Sales NZ 1984
2/ Manawatu S.R.A. 1925-1999
3/ N.Z. Royal Visit 1970 PR.
Thanks

lester36 - 2018-06-22 19:19:00
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lester36 wrote:

https://trademe.tmcdn.co.nz/photoserver/full
/817680904.jpg

Hi Martin here are 3 badges for you to check.
Are they commemorative's

If they have a Pin back they would not be included as a commemorative medal but the Wrightson Bloodstock Sales NZ 1984 with loops suspension could be

coinerrorsnz - 2018-06-22 19:25:00
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coinerrorsnz wrote:


If they have a Pin back they would not be included as a commemorative medal but the Wrightson Bloodstock Sales NZ 1984 with loops suspension could be

What Jason said :-) It would be great to get pics and weight/diameter of the 1984 medal with the suspension loop pse. Cheers, Martin

translateltd - 2018-06-22 20:32:00
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Thanks Martin, I will send you some photos etc.
The Royal visit one has a pin back and also has a number on the back I will send you some better photos of that as well.

lester36 - 2018-06-22 20:52:00
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translateltd wrote:

I don't have an answer, but my first thought is to ask how many recent sales of BU examples there have been, and how many have been communicated to the compilers to update the records. I pay little or no attention to what's happening with coin and banknote prices - trying to keep up with the commemorative medals is more than enough.

if BU means what it should i.e bright close to full red, then I can't recall any sales, recent or not so recent!

Edited by dtpapa at 9:03 pm, Fri 22 Jun

dtpapa - 2018-06-22 20:53:00
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anyone have any ideas of what this medal might be?
https://trademe.tmcdn.co.nz/photoserver/full/817726082.jpg

dtpapa - 2018-06-22 20:54:00
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coinerrorsnz wrote:

If they have a Pin back they would not be included as a commemorative medal but the Wrightson Bloodstock Sales NZ 1984 with loops suspension could be

Just looked in Morel's book and there are a lot in there with pin back so not sure why that would exclude it from the category?

lester36 - 2018-06-22 21:18:00
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lester36 wrote:

Just looked in Morel's book and there are a lot in there with pin back so not sure why that would exclude it from the category?

Leon did not so clearly draw the line between medal and an item with a pin attached to the back of it being considered a badge. 1940 was a big inclusion of pin backs and Leon stated that rather than delete a large number of items he included all he found at the time. This was due to the lack of a catalogue for them and the importance of the event. The 2007 Medal catalogue included a number of pin backs but most of these were removed in the 2014 edition

A few items will always blurry the lines a bit but I can see what they were thinking in removing the items with pins attached to the back of them

Edited by coinerrorsnz at 10:11 pm, Fri 22 Jun

coinerrorsnz - 2018-06-22 22:07:00
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This catalogue seeks to list medallions (i.e. medals not designed to be worn).
It excludes official medals from the Crown; works by members of the New
Zealand Medallion Group; and prize medals issued or awarded by academic,
educational and professional institutions, including the Royal Society of New
Zealand. An exception is made for some medals in the nature of an award that
are listed when there is also a strong commemorative element to their issue.

coinerrorsnz - 2018-06-22 22:08:00
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Yes, it's a difficult call. For the third edition of Morel I briefly thought of removing the pin-backs or putting them in a different section, but there are so many (or varieties of suspension medals with pins, for example) that it would make a huge hole in the listings. For the post-1940 medals there are comparatively few so we decided to treat them as badges and not include them. There will always be a few "should we/shouldn't we" cases - same with sports medals, where we try to stick with "sports commemoratives" (25th anniversary marathon or whatever), but a few others sneak through. Morel also includes a good number of what are technically "prize" medals rather than commems, which is also a little awkward - unless we treat them as commemorating whatever exhibition they were issued for!

translateltd - 2018-06-23 06:59:00
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dtpapa wrote:

anyone have any ideas of what this medal might be?
https://trademe.tmcdn.co.nz/photoserver/full/817726082.jpg[/
quote]

Anything on the back? The triskeles/triquetra in the shield at the top suggests it could be from the Isle of Man.

translateltd - 2018-06-23 07:18:00
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translateltd wrote:

Anything on the back? The triskeles/triquetra in the shield at the top suggests it could be from the Isle of Man.

https://trademe.tmcdn.co.nz/photoserver/full/818016463.jpg

dtpapa - 2018-06-23 10:01:00
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And Martin nails it.

Big surprise.

;-)

echoriath - 2018-06-23 15:56:00
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dtpapa wrote:

https://trademe.tmcdn.co.nz/photoserver/full/818016463.jpg[/
quote]

That's a lot of fonts in a small space.

echoriath - 2018-06-23 16:01:00
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dtpapa wrote:

https://trademe.tmcdn.co.nz/photoserver/full/818016463.jpg[/
quote]

Interesting though - a WW1 POW memento. I knew they had a camp on the island in WW2 but wasn't aware of any numismatic connections with the first half of the match.
(Edit: and now looking at the front of the medal again I see the barbed wire forming the border ...)

Edited by translateltd at 11:08 pm, Sat 23 Jun

translateltd - 2018-06-23 23:07:00
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translateltd wrote:

"The auction for "06/1901 - DUKE & DUCHESS OF CROMWELL VISIT", which is on your watchlist, has been withdrawn by Trade Me customer support as it breached our terms and conditions."

Did anyone spot what was amiss with that listing, other than the fact it should have read Cornwall rather than Cromwell? Curious ...

I see a Leo XIII papal medal I was watching was pulled at the same time but they didn't notify me of that one - harrumph.

translateltd - 2018-06-24 09:12:00
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I have a large number of coins from family estates that I am just starting to catalogue and would like to sell. I have only just started taking photos but can tell you I have florins dating from 1934-1950. Half Crowns from 1934-1963. Various old coins from 1838 including Farthings from 1920-1936.
This is only the beginning...theres many more and alot from the 1800's. Do I keep going or phone an expert and ask them to come view? If so who you fold recommend please?

trisha2 - 2018-06-24 17:20:00
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trisha2 wrote:

I have a large number of coins from family estates that I am just starting to catalogue and would like to sell. I have only just started taking photos but can tell you I have florins dating from 1934-1950. Half Crowns from 1934-1963. Various old coins from 1838 including Farthings from 1920-1936.
This is only the beginning...theres many more and alot from the 1800's. Do I keep going or phone an expert and ask them to come view? If so who you fold recommend please?

Up through 1946, florins, crowns, and other things that look silver do have silver content. For coin collectors to take an interest, condition is important, so good photos (front and back) will tell most of the story. Anything really worn veers towards scrap value unless it's really rare. A real rarity will generally draw plenty of interest and bids in due course. I'd suggest not listing all of the same stuff at the same time, e.g., don't list 100 florins in a given week. The market needs to be able to absorb large quantities of a given coin type. If there's only one of each year, you might think of selling that lot as a grouped collection, but you still need to take decent photos.

Have a look in the coins listed in "antiques & collectibles" to see what good (and bad) photos look like. If you're photos are not clear and close-up, practice taking them until you can get a tight shot with plenty of detail. If you're not on a deadline to sell, your best outcome is likely to be listing them here.

What countries do you have coins from?

echoriath - 2018-06-24 20:13:00
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Anyone able to give guidance on the 1920 Five Centimes and the difference between the petit and grand module? I've pulled up photos from several different sources and cannot see the difference. None of the searches I do return a simple explanation of the difference.

echoriath - 2018-06-24 20:26:00
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echoriath wrote:

Anyone able to give guidance on the 1920 Five Centimes and the difference between the petit and grand module? I've pulled up photos from several different sources and cannot see the difference. None of the searches I do return a simple explanation of the difference.

I've got both - I'll check and report back.

translateltd - 2018-06-25 13:08:00
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Simple answer (from KM): KM865a (1918-20) was 19mm in diameter and weighed 3g; KM875 (1920-38) was 17mm in dia and weighed 2g. That may be the key info you need :-) There's also the large bronze type (different design, 25.1mm and 5g) which was struck through to 1921, so there are three sizes for 1920.
And in case it's of any relevance, KM has the designer's name slightly wrong for the Cu-Ni coin: Lindauer not Lindaver.

Edited by translateltd at 1:15 pm, Mon 25 Jun

translateltd - 2018-06-25 13:13:00
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hmmm ... my latest research has shown that a bahama mule goes for quite a bit more on ebay than it does on trademe!

A case in point,1649547500

which has found its way onto ebay at over 6x original purchase price!

https://www.ebay.com/itm/New-Zealand-Bahamas-Two-Cent-Mule-E
f-Error-Coin/253707570643?hash=item3b12264dd3:g:4XAAAOSwkcFb
JaWj

Edited by dtpapa at 7:36 pm, Mon 25 Jun

dtpapa - 2018-06-25 19:35:00
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