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Welcome to the Coin Club. We are an assortment of newbies and oldbies, amateurs and experts with questions and answers for oldbies and newbies, amateurs and experts in coin collecting, also known as numismatics. Whether you are just getting started, have been collecting for years or have simply found some old coins about the place that you’d like to sell, this is the place to ask your questions.

No one has all the answers, and you may get five differing answers to the same question, yet each may be right in a manner of speaking, especially if opinions are involved. Opinions often vary. If you receive no answer to your query within 48 hours, please ask again.

translateltd - 2018-05-01 17:32:00
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lester36 wrote:

Type II 50 cent was 1988

Dont get me started on those they do my head in. I have spent weeks looking into all the Endeavour design differences of the 50 cent coins. 3 Different types with a modified type 3 so potentially Type 4 on the 1994 bi-metal. I need to put that in print or on the website at some point.

With the 1967 no tail it appears I did not finish my research last year so still looking into a few things to see if we have another way to confirm if it was one die or multiple. Will add it to my list to look at one day

Edited by coinerrorsnz at 10:02 pm, Tue 1 May

coinerrorsnz - 2018-05-01 22:02:00
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Am I wrong, I have heard their is a 1967 error coin of a New Zealand five cent piece, it has "Bahamas" written instead of NZ.

But isnt there also a 1967 error coin of a New Zealand two cent piece, that also has "Bahamas" on it?

Or am I mistaken?

brett21 - 2018-05-02 22:28:00
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brett21 - 2018-05-02 22:32:00
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brett21 wrote:

Am I wrong, I have heard their is a 1967 error coin of a New Zealand five cent piece, it has "Bahamas" written instead of NZ.

But isnt there also a 1967 error coin of a New Zealand two cent piece, that also has "Bahamas" on it?

Or am I mistaken?


You are right on the 2nd one by not on the 1st one cheers

chefman1 - 2018-05-02 23:19:00
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Maybe the mix-up comes from the fact the obverse was of a Bahamas 5c coin, while the reverse was our 2c.

translateltd - 2018-05-03 06:10:00
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Hi, not sure if this is allowed, but Ive taken a couple of pictures of what I think is the "1967 five cent tail missing under the chin" coin.

I really cant tell, I was hoping someone could confirm or deny, Cheers.

https://trademe.tmcdn.co.nz/photoserver/full/782781183.jpg
https://trademe.tmcdn.co.nz/photoserver/full/782780695.jpg

brett21 - 2018-05-03 13:23:00
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brett21 wrote:

Hi, not sure if this is allowed, but Ive taken a couple of pictures of what I think is the "1967 five cent tail missing under the chin" coin.

I really cant tell, I was hoping someone could confirm or deny, Cheers.

https://trademe.tmcdn.co.nz/photoserver/full/782781183.jpg
https://trademe.tmcdn.co.nz/photoserver/full/782780695.jpg[/
quote]

Pics are unfortunately a bit small to tell, but it looks like it. Can you try cropping out most of the background so you're left with just the coin and a small square around it at most, and try uploading again? Or take pics from a bit closer up, as long as they're still in focus?

translateltd - 2018-05-03 16:29:00
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Try this:
https://trademe.tmcdn.co.nz/photoserver/full/782912203.jpg

At this magnification there are three very faint dots where the triangle of tail should be, which suggests a possible intermediate stage as Lindsay mentioned above.

translateltd - 2018-05-03 16:34:00
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https://trademe.tmcdn.co.nz/photoserver/full/782968291.jpg
https://trademe.tmcdn.co.nz/photoserver/full/782968074.jpg
https://trademe.tmcdn.co.nz/photoserver/full/782967937.jpg
https://trademe.tmcdn.co.nz/photoserver/full/782967844.jpg
https://trademe.tmcdn.co.nz/photoserver/full/782967766.jpg

These are the five 1967 5 cent coins I found on the weekend 4 are no tail and 1 is no sea.
2 of the no tail have no trace of a tail and 2 have small dots.

lester36 - 2018-05-03 18:21:00
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translateltd wrote:

Pics are unfortunately a bit small to tell, but it looks like it. Can you try cropping out most of the background so you're left with just the coin and a small square around it at most, and try uploading again? Or take pics from a bit closer up, as long as they're still in focus?

Thanks for replying to my post, heres another attempt. Its a bit more clearer I think.

https://trademe.tmcdn.co.nz/photoserver/full/783050526.jpg
https://trademe.tmcdn.co.nz/photoserver/full/783050370.jpg
https://trademe.tmcdn.co.nz/photoserver/full/783050135.jpg

brett21 - 2018-05-03 20:31:00
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brett21 wrote:

Thanks for replying to my post, heres another attempt. Its a bit more clearer I think.

https://trademe.tmcdn.co.nz/photoserver/full/783050526.jpg
https://trademe.tmcdn.co.nz/photoserver/full/783050370.jpg
https://trademe.tmcdn.co.nz/photoserver/full/783050135.jpg[/
quote]

Thanks for the new pics. The triangle looks filled to me, so based on these photos I'd say no, unfortunately. Would be interested to see what others make of them.

translateltd - 2018-05-04 06:06:00
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What's the thinking about the Prince Louis $1 silver coin being pre-order only? First time we've had one of these....struck to order. Will it have a low mintage? NZ Coins is entering new country. Cheers, taidhg

taidhg - 2018-05-04 20:50:00
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translateltd wrote:

Thanks for the new pics. The triangle looks filled to me, so based on these photos I'd say no, unfortunately. Would be interested to see what others make of them.

Cheers, thanks for looking. Oh well, one day I will find a nice error coin among my loose change.

brett21 - 2018-05-04 22:09:00
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brett21 wrote:

Cheers, thanks for looking. Oh well, one day I will find a nice error coin among my loose change.

It literally took me years - I used to wonder how others managed to find them, then one day I had a stack of 5c pieces and my wife wanted to know what I was looking for. I picked one up and said we need to check this triangle of tail here ... and the triangle wasn't there!

translateltd - 2018-05-05 07:12:00
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taidhg wrote:

What's the thinking about the Prince Louis $1 silver coin being pre-order only? First time we've had one of these....struck to order. Will it have a low mintage? NZ Coins is entering new country. Cheers, taidhg

I switched off as far as NCLT was concerned a few years ago now :-)

translateltd - 2018-05-05 07:13:00
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Just wait for the plethora of "rare and collectible" Meghan and Harry stuff that must be flooding the market. One upside of the royal marriages: Good for the "collectibles" manufacturers.

echoriath - 2018-05-13 10:00:00
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Yep, the only catch is when you come to try to sell them ....

funho1 - 2018-05-13 10:50:00
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echoriath wrote:

Just wait for the plethora of "rare and collectible" Meghan and Harry stuff that must be flooding the market. One upside of the royal marriages: Good for the "collectibles" manufacturers.

I saw the pictures for one of the new 'collector issues' recently and had to wonder once again what has happened to the art of portraiture. No-one seems to be able to do an accurate effigy on a coin any longer. The worst was probably Chas & Di on the Ugandan 1981 commems, but recent issues aren't much better.

translateltd - 2018-05-13 11:29:00
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Bump ...

translateltd - 2018-05-24 16:11:00
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Listing #: 1649971316
anybody know anything about this error coin very hard to see the pictures are not very good?

chefman1 - 2018-05-30 21:23:00
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chefman1 wrote:

Listing #: 1649971316
anybody know anything about this error coin very hard to see the pictures are not very good?

I pulled out a standard UNC coin to have a look but mine looks the same the 5 is slightly higher so not sure if he has another one to compare it with to see if it is a true die variety .

https://trademe.tmcdn.co.nz/photoserver/full/802131867.jpg
https://trademe.tmcdn.co.nz/photoserver/full/802131773.jpg

coinerrorsnz - 2018-05-30 22:43:00
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coinerrorsnz wrote:

I pulled out a standard UNC coin to have a look but mine looks the same the 5 is slightly higher so not sure if he has another one to compare it with to see if it is a true die variety .

https://trademe.tmcdn.co.nz/photoserver/full/802131867.jpg
https://trademe.tmcdn.co.nz/photoserver/full/802131773.jpg[/
quote]

The numeral alignment looks different on the proof - I wonder if it's more a 'low 2' than a 'high 5', comparing against the unc one.

translateltd - 2018-05-30 23:21:00
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Date: Saturday 2nd June

Hours: 9.30am - 3.00pm

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chefman1 - 2018-05-31 15:43:00
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translateltd wrote:

The numeral alignment looks different on the proof - I wonder if it's more a 'low 2' than a 'high 5', comparing against the unc one.

Interesting answer to what i got >>>>
The placing of the 5 is plainly an error as it is not aligned, as it should be, to the other digits of the year. An imperfect feature of a coin does not have to be rare to be a error. Thanks for suggesting P Eccles, hes must have seen dozens of this coin many times

chefman1 - 2018-05-31 16:45:00
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chefman1 wrote:

Interesting answer to what i got >>>>
The placing of the 5 is plainly an error as it is not aligned, as it should be, to the other digits of the year. An imperfect feature of a coin does not have to be rare to be a error. Thanks for suggesting P Eccles, hes must have seen dozens of this coin many times

But if every example of the coin is like that, then it's not an error or variety - it's standard for that coin :-)

translateltd - 2018-05-31 20:05:00
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this is getting more interesting now >>
Havent yet answered the other question as I need to consult experts on the claim made by questioner. What coin dealers do you suggest I consult, which are best?

chefman1 - 2018-05-31 20:20:00
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chefman1 wrote:

this is getting more interesting now >>
Havent yet answered the other question as I need to consult experts on the claim made by questioner. What coin dealers do you suggest I consult, which are best?

I've sold one each of the uncs and proofs and still have the images. Dates on both look out of alignment, so given the quite low mintages in each case I think it likely they're all the same - would there really have been more than one die pair for each of these at 15,000 and 5,000 respectively? Happy to be proved wrong if differing examples should turn up.

translateltd - 2018-05-31 20:25:00
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chefman1 wrote:

this is getting more interesting now >>
Havent yet answered the other question as I need to consult experts on the claim made by questioner.

The unanswered question is mine, btw :-)

translateltd - 2018-05-31 20:27:00
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i thought it might be you or xxxxx.

chefman1 - 2018-05-31 20:36:00
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chefman1 wrote:

What coin dealers do you suggest I consult, which are best?


Ask collectorman. I've just given him pages of question(able) feedback.

alpha111 - 2018-05-31 20:37:00
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Hi Don, lol what happened i went and had a look at his feedbacks

chefman1 - 2018-05-31 20:51:00
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alpha111 wrote:


Ask collectorman. I've just given him pages of question(able) feedback.

Shouldn't they have been negatives, or at least neutrals? I assume it was an auto-listing cockup, but still ...

translateltd - 2018-06-01 06:18:00
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heh I don't reckon the 5 is raised more likely optical illusion caused by lettering following curvature of the coin!

here is another example of the coin
https://www.ebay.com/itm/2005-RUGBY-LIONS-LEAGUE-SILVER-PROO
F-COIN-NEW-ZEALAND/261682974778?hash=item3ced85503a:g:kBkAAO
Swcx5ZaDfo

dtpapa - 2018-06-01 16:59:00
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noble have their latest catalogue out early but there seems to be a problem as it is missing quite a bit???

dtpapa - 2018-06-01 17:01:00
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big sissy silvergoldbullion has blacklisted me on trademe I wonder if he has done the same on ebay?

dtpapa - 2018-06-01 17:04:00
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has anyone seen one of these in red or red-brown with lots of original luster?

https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces27273.html

I've seen other varieties in reddish condition but not this one

dtpapa - 2018-06-01 17:07:00
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dtpapa wrote:

noble have their latest catalogue out early but there seems to be a problem as it is missing quite a bit???

You mean sections omitted? Print copy or online?

translateltd - 2018-06-01 17:37:00
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online
http://www.noble.com.au/auctions/search?sale=118

dtpapa - 2018-06-01 17:44:00
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dtpapa wrote:

online
http://www.noble.com.au/auctions/search?sale=118

Separate sub-catalogue maybe (one collection/source) with the rest to follow?

translateltd - 2018-06-01 18:04:00
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Dont they normally only put it online about 4 weeks before the auction? Seems odd to load session 15 and one of the others

coinerrorsnz - 2018-06-01 22:24:00
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Hi. Have just cleaned out my dads house and have found assorted of British ,NZ , &australian coins. There are lots of them . Could anyone recommend a coin shop ( Auckland ) I could take to. TIA

didi1 - 2018-06-03 11:43:00
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didi1 wrote:

Hi. Have just cleaned out my dads house and have found assorted of British ,NZ , &australian coins. There are lots of them . Could anyone recommend a coin shop ( Auckland ) I could take to. TIA

Peter eccles is in auckland google coin dealers he does sell on trademe as-well or Howard Mitchell he sell on trademe as-well, good luck

chefman1 - 2018-06-03 12:33:00
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Peter in Queen's Arcade and Howard at 77 The Strand, Parnell.

wasgonna - 2018-06-03 14:27:00
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wasgonna wrote:

Peter in Queen's Arcade and Howard at 77 The Strand, Parnell.

Howard's moved to Epsom in the meantime - best to ring in advance anyway so suggest checking Mr Google for current details.

translateltd - 2018-06-03 15:57:00
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possible dodgy ngc grading?
https://www.ngccoin.com/certlookup/4663718-025/63/

I'm sure I can see wear on the shoulder and skirt?

and this one?
https://www.ngccoin.com/certlookup/4446256-004/64/

clearly wear to the face?

who agrees?

dtpapa - 2018-06-05 18:55:00
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anyone got a 1969 Tunisian proof set?

they look really nifty, opinions?

dtpapa - 2018-06-05 18:58:00
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dtpapa wrote:

anyone got a 1969 Tunisian proof set?

they look really nifty, opinions?

Which ones, the NCLT silver with historical figures etc.? Impressive but I haven't seen them in real life.

translateltd - 2018-06-05 21:40:00
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dtpapa wrote:

possible dodgy ngc grading?
https://www.ngccoin.com/certlookup/4663718-025/63/

I'm sure I can see wear on the shoulder and skirt?

and this one?
https://www.ngccoin.com/certlookup/4446256-004/64/

clearly wear to the face?

who agrees?

Agreed re the shilling. Stains around the top half of the A and scratches in the field look like cleaning marks - reverse isn't that great at all to me.

translateltd - 2018-06-05 21:40:00
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translateltd wrote:

Separate sub-catalogue maybe (one collection/source) with the rest to follow?


The catalogue for Nobles online is part B of two catalogues. All one collection. Hard copy catalogue is fabulous. Check out the very last lot.
Part A will be available in due course, but probably not till early July as per usual.

nznotes - 2018-06-05 22:56:00
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