THE NEW COIN CLUB
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| 8751 | Welcome to the Coin Club. We are an assortment of newbies and oldbies, amateurs and experts with questions and answers for oldbies and newbies, amateurs and experts in coin collecting, also known as numismatics. Whether you are just getting started, have been collecting for years or have simply found some old coins about the place that you’d like to sell, this is the place to ask your questions. No one has all the answers, and you may get five differing answers to the same question, yet each may be right in a manner of speaking, especially if opinions are involved. Opinions often vary. If you receive no answer to your query within 48 hours, please ask again. translateltd - 2018-04-11 11:17:00 |
| 8752 | translateltd wrote:
Fabulous info! Thank you! Yes- the other side is just as elaborate with Victoria and Albert in the middle. I've done some further research and found a few of these medalettes online. Believed to have been made for Victorias 60 years as Queen anniversary. none of the ones I found have a crown attached though. genuinegina - 2018-04-13 09:28:00 |
| 8753 | genuine-gina wrote:
That's plausible - we know at least that it couldn't have been made before 1888, and if it shows the long-dead Prince Albert on the other side, then showing Frederick a few years after he also died wouldn't be out of place. I don't see this in the standard book of British commemorative medals by Eimer, but it's a very selective book out of necessity - I imagine listing all British commemorative medals would fill a shelf, not just a single book! translateltd - 2018-04-13 12:13:00 |
| 8754 | Quiz for those who reckon they know something about numismatics! if this 1936 florin was sent to pcgs for grading what would be your guess or estimation of the grade returned, and why? dtpapa - 2018-04-13 17:56:00 |
| 8755 | dtpapa wrote:
The vagaries of US grading leave me quite in the dark, I'm afraid. But the odd damage to the L and O of FLORIN is probably more than I'd call "surface marks". It also looks like it's been cleaned, judging by the light patch around the kiwi, unless it's a lighting issue with the photography. Will be interesting to see the "official" response in due course. translateltd - 2018-04-13 18:35:00 |
| 8756 | To give us some incentive for the quiz DT; did you buy this coin & then send for pcgsing ? or what is your relationship to the coin ? Cheers Peter funho1 - 2018-04-13 19:09:00 |
| 8757 | nah Peter but I wish I could afford to throw that kind of money at a coin like that! I actually noticed it on ebay and thought I bet that is a noble coin so I checked and sure enough it was! Once you've made your guess you can look up it up on the pcgs website CERT VERIFICATION #83973672, you might be slightly surprised (or maybe not!). dtpapa - 2018-04-13 20:05:00 |
| 8758 | The Central Districts 57th annual Stamps, Coins & Postcards Expo and Convention Saturday 14th April 2018 At the Palmerston North Community Leisure Centre, 569 Ferguson Street Coin Dealers from Auckland, Wellington and the Manawatu attending. coinerrorsnz - 2018-04-13 21:45:00 |
| 8759 | dtpapa wrote:
Good detail on the Kiwi feathers and better than some high grade pcgs florins but to much surface damage it detracts from the overall coin. PCGS grading system does not seem to care about these kind of marks and still rate them MS63 or higher. Personally I could live with EF - maybe AU at a push but assume it got graded higher than that coinerrorsnz - 2018-04-13 21:54:00 |
| 8760 | Hello, I have a few coins listed from the old estate and find from time to time a few that are still accumulated in boxes. I recdently found a few old NZ 20 cent pieces and tried to look what these are worth,.... not much , however there was one that appears a bit strange. All of the NZ 20 cent pieces I found are silver coloured what appears Copper Nickel, but one of them is bronze/brown of colour and weight lighter then the other ones. The diameter is the same. The coin also does nit appear to be worn, in compoarison with all the others. What could be the reason? Thanks for any expert advise. Edited by superopa at 1:42 pm, Sun 15 Apr superopa - 2018-04-15 13:34:00 |
| 8761 | superopa wrote:
The lighter weight is curious. What does the copper-coloured one weigh? It would be interesting to know how big the difference is. translateltd - 2018-04-15 17:26:00 |
| 8762 | https://www.pcgs.com/cert/83973672 the problem I would have with this coin being graded MS64 is that the 'minor' surface marks are actually quite extensive including damage to rim, and I would suspect easily visible to the naked eye, which is not a good thing. It does appear to be a decent strike though. Luster is uncertain, but it is described as 'toned'. But as I've said a number of times before in this forum the 1936 florin is consistently overgraded by both ngc and pcgs. This is most easily noted in the AU grades where a well worn coin can mysteriously scrape in as AU50! It definitely is not MS64 quality, but taking into account what looks to be a well above average strike to counter the surface damage, MS63 might not be unreasonable, although I would be more comfortable with MS62. dtpapa - 2018-04-15 17:41:00 |
| 8763 | translateltd wrote: superopa - 2018-04-15 18:24:00 |
| 8764 | dtpapa wrote:
I really can't be bothered with all the different MS's or US grading in general, or the grade inflation that it brings with it. translateltd - 2018-04-17 07:54:00 |
| 8765 | Amazing!! one of the finest 1940 NZ florins known to mankind went unsold at noble!!! if only I had known I'd have put in a low ball bid and got myself a bargain! dtpapa - 2018-04-17 19:44:00 |
| 8766 | dtpapa wrote:
Goodness! translateltd - 2018-04-17 21:46:00 |
| 8767 | 1603996442 dtpapa - 2018-04-17 23:53:00 |
| 8768 | Anyone know much about mintmarks/privy marks on Netherlands coins? According to Kraus a 1912 5 Gulden should have a caduceus and a sea horse on it. The photo in Kraus (37th edition) however just has some diamonds with lines. Appears to have created some discusion on restrikes - 1597151634 chrisr5 - 2018-04-18 09:07:00 |
| 8769 | dtpapa wrote:
Very impressive. coinerrorsnz - 2018-04-18 11:36:00 |
| 8770 | chrisr5 wrote:
Interesting - I've just checked Krause, Schön and a couple of Dutch-language books and catalogues and they all illustrate the 5G with the diamondy things rather than the privy marks. Surely all these books couldn't have illustrated restrikes/forgeries in error. I note KM says that "forgeries are prevalent", and the Dutch catalogue recommends people buy this particular coin only from reputable dealers for the same reason, but neither offers any identifying details. Could be a question for someone other than me to raise at worldofcoins.eu. translateltd - 2018-04-18 13:57:00 |
| 8771 | Didn't you find a few frustrating errors in the NZ section of Kraus? But I guess the weight of the evidence is for diamonds and lines. I asked in the Coin Collecting society on facebook and one concurs with diamonds and lines on the originals and just posted the question in WOCs now. Edited by chrisr5 at 2:16 pm, Wed 18 Apr chrisr5 - 2018-04-18 14:14:00 |
| 8772 | chrisr5 wrote:
I spent years trying to get the errors and omissions in the NZ section of KM fixed up, and every year it would come back with some of my changes made and most ignored. I eventually got fed up repeating myself and left them to it. Thanks for following up on the Dutch Q on WOC - will be interesting to see what the response is. translateltd - 2018-04-18 14:29:00 |
| 8773 | Mowbray Collectables’ next sale on 25 and 26 May 2018 will offer the largest sale of New Zealand banknotes in New Zealand yet – nearly 500 banknote lots, together with many New Zealand coins, tokens and medals, in 920 lots with estimates over $380,000, drawn from the Ian Birdling collection. Ian is a builder, entrepreneur and long-time collector specialising in New Zealand coins, tokens and banknotes, especially early New Zealand trading banknotes, error items and private issues. Foreign material includes Chinese, Scottish, English, US and other banknotes with a small number of World coins and medals chefman1 - 2018-04-18 15:26:00 |
| 8774 | also very large selection of NZ tokens and error coins dtpapa - 2018-04-18 18:39:00 |
| 8775 | Could it be someone put their initials on this as proof of ownership? https://trademe.tmcdn.co.nz/photoserver/full/774587059.jpg I know it seems silly, but there's also a date engraved on the reverse: https://trademe.tmcdn.co.nz/photoserver/full/774586738.jpg echoriath - 2018-04-21 20:18:00 |
| 8776 | On a more serious note, who can tell me more about this: https://trademe.tmcdn.co.nz/photoserver/full/774587815.jpg Sorry about the poor photos. echoriath - 2018-04-21 20:18:00 |
| 8777 | echoriath wrote:
1/2 penny token gammoner - 2018-04-21 22:27:00 |
| 8778 | Ireland Dublin St. Patrick 1/2 Penny Token 1806 D.66.Dublin. gammoner - 2018-04-21 22:29:00 |
| 8779 | Would expect you would have to pay $30 to $50 at a dealers for something similar gammoner - 2018-04-21 22:32:00 |
| 8780 | echoriath wrote:
Birthdate, most likely. Whoever GRC was, born 27-7-1892. translateltd - 2018-04-22 09:03:00 |
| 8781 | gammoner wrote:
Just to add to Alan's info, it's one of the types listed as W2015-2017 in Paul Withers' Token Book. He notes they are usually overstruck on J. Hilles halfpenny tokens (any sign of an underlying design?), and also says the dates on many Irish tokens are fictitious. translateltd - 2018-04-22 09:06:00 |
| 8782 | translateltd wrote:
See, you're an optimist. My pessimism had me thinking this was done to it by some well meaning late 20th century owner. Now you've piqued my curiosity. I wonder if there's any chance of figuring out who it was with the initials and ostensible birth date. Edited by echoriath at 11:29 am, Sun 22 Apr echoriath - 2018-04-22 11:24:00 |
| 8783 | echoriath wrote:
Wash your mouth out! And facetiousness will only win you points with me. translateltd - 2018-04-22 11:27:00 |
| 8784 | gammoner wrote:
Awesome! Thanks for that and some idea of value. echoriath - 2018-04-22 11:29:00 |
| 8785 | In earlier decades engraved/tooled coins like that 3d could have been 'transportation tokens' in the sense of keepsakes given to families left behind when someone was sent off to plant the seeds for Australia's future prosperity. Or 'love tokens' for any other purpose - 'remember your beloved GRC who'll be back after making his fortune, etc., etc.' Edited by translateltd at 11:31 am, Sun 22 Apr translateltd - 2018-04-22 11:31:00 |
| 8786 | translateltd wrote:
Thanks! No signs of underlying design that I can see, though there does seem to be a secondary rim on the obverse from three to six o'clock and on the reverse from seven to nine. The rim dings and obverse gouges are unfortunate, but it's a storied item. How's that for sunny-eyed optimism? echoriath - 2018-04-22 11:33:00 |
| 8787 | translateltd wrote:
Ah, interesting. Speaking of storied items.... That's part of the reason I am more forgiving of holed coins found far from home, which is actually what the dark splotch on the 3d is: some sort of filler in a hole. To my mind, the hole represents someone who was putting their life savings on a bit of sturdy string/rope to ensure they held onto it on a long ocean voyage and travel into the great unknown. echoriath - 2018-04-22 11:37:00 |
| 8788 | echoriath wrote:
Or to carry it on a necklace or fob chain - the latter apparently being the reason why so many "Morel"-period medals were pierced from new. translateltd - 2018-04-22 12:11:00 |
| 8789 | FWIW, I think the better finds in this lot I got were an 1877 Rupee from Anwar State and an 1845 East India Company Half Anna. Always lots more to learn! echoriath - 2018-04-22 20:47:00 |
| 8790 | This message was deleted. jym - 2018-04-25 14:06:00 |
| 8791 | hey happy coin collectors, I am looking for a 1974 1c or 2c nz coin, im now in oz and am doing a homemade gift for my partner, I have his birthyear coin but not mine, can anyone point me in the right direction of where to find one please? purplegoanna - 2018-04-26 20:42:00 |
| 8792 | purplegoanna wrote:
coinerrorsnz - 2018-04-26 22:56:00 |
| 8793 | echoriath wrote:
I've got a Republic of Ireland 2 shilling somewhere stamped UVF. I still can't work out who's name it could be I guessed that F was Finnegan, V possibly Vincent but couldn't think of many names beginning with U chrisr5 - 2018-04-29 15:06:00 |
| 8794 | chrisr5 wrote:
Ulysses? A good Joycean name ... translateltd - 2018-04-29 15:12:00 |
| 8795 | Question on the 1967 no tail 5 cent coin - Are there degrees of tail missing , as I have been going through a heap of 5 cent coins and have found 1 with no tail under the chin and others with very small dots where the tail should be. Thanks lester36 - 2018-04-29 17:16:00 |
| 8796 | translateltd wrote:
That'll be the one chrisr5 - 2018-04-30 19:12:00 |
| 8797 | lester36 wrote:
It sounds likely. I don't think the "full tail" is particularly detailed at that point to start with - I seem to recall just dots filling in the triangle, though I may need to have another squint to refresh my memory :-) translateltd - 2018-05-01 07:51:00 |
| 8798 | lester36 wrote:
Well Yes and No there does seem to be different degrees of the fault however the lesser degree with just 3 dots seems to be different dies (from memory) to the full missing Tail fault so it depends if they are still as collectable. Other years (1996 I think) also have 3 dots showing without the triangle as Martin has mentioned. This has reminded me of something I was working on in July last year with the No Sea and No Tail faults I will see if I can find it after work coinerrorsnz - 2018-05-01 11:58:00 |
| 8799 | coinerrorsnz wrote: lester36 - 2018-05-01 17:17:00 |
| 8800 | Type II 50 cent was 1988 lester36 - 2018-05-01 17:21:00 |
