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But wait, there is more, for today only we have upgraded it from EF to AU, hurry last chance

gammoner - 2018-01-07 13:10:00
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Welcome to the Coin Club. We are an assortment of newbies and oldbies, amateurs and experts with questions and answers for oldbies and newbies, amateurs and experts in coin collecting, also known as numismatics. Whether you are just getting started, have been collecting for years or have simply found some old coins about the place that you’d like to sell, this is the place to ask your questions.

No one has all the answers, and you may get five differing answers to the same question, yet each may be right in a manner of speaking, especially if opinions are involved. Opinions often vary. If you receive no answer to your query within 48 hours, please ask again.

gammoner - 2018-01-07 13:35:00
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kiwisportsgirl wrote:


i have just looked at your coin where did you get E/F condition from please?? to me it looks ave/cir condition with a lot of wear on both side on it, cheers

Yep, agreed with the others, it's been around the block a few times and is average circulated at best. Look how flat the king's hair is, damage to the date digits, wear to the lines from the "tiki" figure's mouth at left of the shield (always a good place to look when grading), flattened rims, etc.

translateltd - 2018-01-07 16:42:00
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I’m told that oldecurb died on Wednesday of last week.

RIP, Bruce.

Edited by echoriath at 2:34 pm, Wed 10 Jan

echoriath - 2018-01-10 14:32:00
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Tim are you sure? his trademe account says he has been on today? cheers Peter

chefman1 - 2018-01-10 15:29:00
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chefman1 wrote:

Tim are you sure? his trademe account says he has been on today? cheers Peter

https://www.heavenaddress.com/obituaries/funeral-notice/Bruc
e-Adrian-Collins/1790233/

translateltd - 2018-01-10 16:35:00
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Thankyou Martin

RIP, Bruce

chefman1 - 2018-01-10 18:05:00
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I do coin collecting for a hobby. I have what I believe is a 1914/3-d buffalo nickel. I had this coin for a while now. I have never seen even one listed anywhere. I am sure it is a 1914/3-d. Its very clear with a good camera. Any details regarding it would be much appreciated. Its in a Good-4 grade I think. How much would it be worth if its the real deal (Just out of curiosity)?

scorpiomatt - 2018-01-17 12:22:00
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scorpiomatt wrote:

I do coin collecting for a hobby. I have what I believe is a 1914/3-d buffalo nickel. I had this coin for a while now. I have never seen even one listed anywhere. I am sure it is a 1914/3-d. Its very clear with a good camera. Any details regarding it would be much appreciated. Its in a Good-4 grade I think. How much would it be worth if its the real deal (Just out of curiosity)?

The 2012 Red Book doesn't price the no-mintmark 14/3 in less than Fine, and I'd be dubious about making out an overdate in any lower grades than that, especially if we're talking US grading, which is optimistic to start with. No reference to a 14/3-D as you say, so I'd be curious to see photos. Posting pics to a specialised US group or even the ANA would be essential, I'd think, for experienced eyes to check the relevant diagnostics.

Edited by translateltd at 2:54 pm, Wed 17 Jan

translateltd - 2018-01-17 14:54:00
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austrokiwi1 - 2018-01-20 07:42:00
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austrokiwi1 wrote:

So sad to read about bruce

Yes, I never 'clicked' when he suddenly decided to have a big sell-off a year or so ago.

translateltd - 2018-01-20 09:38:00
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RIP, Bruce

oldman3 - 2018-01-21 09:42:00
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Man goes into fortune teller asked if coin club in heaven as a great collector after a while she say there is good news and bad. The man say tell me the good news, she says yes coin club in heaven, he says well can't be that bad, she says your giving the talk tomorrow about coin grading.

35 - 2018-01-21 15:51:00
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Bump ...

translateltd - 2018-01-28 07:33:00
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Can anyone tell me the best place to go to get some coins valued in Christchurch. These is a variety including commerative coins from Jubilees, Commonwealth Games, USSR Openings of Buildings, Proof Coin Sets, Independence coins and Olympic Games. Thanks, in advance, for your help.

chickalamb - 2018-01-29 15:57:00
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chefman1 - 2018-01-29 17:56:00
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RIP Oldecurb

While most of my interaction with Bruce was through the Coin Club here on TradeMe, we did actually meet years ago when he bought a few coins off of me. At the time, he was focusing on items that had horses on them, and I happened to have some Kentucky quarters he was keen on. He came to my house here in Dunedin, where we enjoyed a drink and a chinwag. He was a stand-up guy who could be counted on to provide a thoughtful answer to any question and to keep his cool, though he had his opinions, and did not suffer fools gladly.

It’s funny how that humanized the whole online experience. It’s so easy to view the world through a screen, but it was a good reminder that we are all people. Except for the bots. Bad bots!

He and I had different motivations when it came to collecting, but that did not matter. Our broader interests seemed to intersect in a way that made our numismatic differences insignificant. Mind you, I ran into Bruce periodically at the local auction house, and once in a while we ended up bidding against each other, as we did occasionally on TradeMe. But it was all in good fun.

We crossed paths in the professional sphere as well. About five years ago, I started working in a specialised field of construction called passive fire proofing. And who shows up on a site because he’s a fire engineer? That’d be our Bruce. It was particularly rewarding it is own little way because, having not grown up in this part of the world, I don’t have the sort of generational connections that a lot of locals do, so it was funny to see guys on site noticing that I finally knew someone well while they had no idea who he was.

I only learned after his death that he was also acquainted with the family of the managing director of my firm.

Anywho, Bruce died of cancer, but he was quite adamant about keeping it under wraps, so much so that I had no idea he was ill. I don’t know if it was a form of denial of his own mortality or just wanting discretion about his personal life. Perhaps he did not want to “inflict” his situation on others for fear of being seen to be having a pity party.

The week before Christmas last year I had occasion to call him regarding a project he had signed off on as the fire engineer. I am not sure if we had a bad connection or if he was just in a bad enough way on the day that he could not speak clearly. I told him I thought we had a bad connection and that I would call back in the new year. Well, there goes that. It was only when I tried to call back early this year that I learned the unfortunate truth.

I don’t really want to fall back on the clichés about mortality and appreciating today.

We’re here.

Then we’re not.

And I’m OK with that.

The next time I am poring over my favourite numismatic pieces, I’ll be sure to have a glass of something suitably aged close at hand, and I’ll pour one for him.

Bruce asked that, in lieu of sending flowers, people donate to Otago Community Hospice. I’m not selling it, just telling it.
https://otagohospice.co.nz/help-us/donations/

Edited by echoriath at 2:03 am, Tue 30 Jan

echoriath - 2018-01-30 02:01:00
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Thanks for sharing Tim

RIP Oldecurb

chrisr5 - 2018-01-30 16:54:00
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Martin are you about do you know anything about this piece please?
https://trademe.tmcdn.co.nz/photoserver/full/723973399.jpg
https://trademe.tmcdn.co.nz/photoserver/full/723973237.jpg
https://trademe.tmcdn.co.nz/photoserver/full/723973044.jpg
https://trademe.tmcdn.co.nz/photoserver/full/723972877.jpg
its gold on top of silver and it has hall marks thankyou Peter

Edited by chefman1 at 7:20 pm, Sun 4 Feb

chefman1 - 2018-02-04 19:18:00
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one more for you thankyou peter
https://trademe.tmcdn.co.nz/photoserver/full/723978572.jpg
https://trademe.tmcdn.co.nz/photoserver/full/723978693.jpg

chefman1 - 2018-02-04 19:27:00
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chefman1 wrote:

one more for you thankyou peter
https://trademe.tmcdn.co.nz/photoserver/full/723978572.jpg
https://trademe.tmcdn.co.nz/photoserver/full/723978693.jpg[/
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Hi Peter, This one is in Morel as M1940/8 but he lists it as a pin-back. It looks like this one might have had a press fitting at the back so could be a new variety. I'd like to use the pics for the catalogue update if I can pse :-)

translateltd - 2018-02-05 06:49:00
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chefman1 wrote:

Martin are you about do you know anything about this piece please?
https://trademe.tmcdn.co.nz/photoserver/full/723973399.jpg
https://trademe.tmcdn.co.nz/photoserver/full/723973237.jpg
https://trademe.tmcdn.co.nz/photoserver/full/723973044.jpg
https://trademe.tmcdn.co.nz/photoserver/full/723972877.jpg
its gold on top of silver and it has hall marks thankyou Peter

It looks like a modern replica of a gold angel of Elizabeth I. Style and fabric are wrong for an original. The hallmarks should reveal more - I'll see what I can find for you.
(Edit: Found it. Birmingham Mint, 1982. The fancy H is the date letter - see here: https://www.silvermakersmarks.co.uk/Dates/Birmingham/Cycle%2
01975-1999.html
)

Edited by translateltd at 6:57 am, Mon 5 Feb

translateltd - 2018-02-05 06:51:00
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translateltd wrote:

Hi Peter, This one is in Morel as M1940/8 but he lists it as a pin-back. It looks like this one might have had a press fitting at the back so could be a new variety. I'd like to use the pics for the catalogue update if I can pse :-)


Hi Martin, yes not a problem please used the pics, cheers peter

chefman1 - 2018-02-05 10:14:00
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translateltd wrote:

It looks like a modern replica of a gold angel of Elizabeth I. Style and fabric are wrong for an original. The hallmarks should reveal more - I'll see what I can find for you.
(Edit: Found it. Birmingham Mint, 1982. The fancy H is the date letter - see here: https://www.silvermakersmarks.co.uk/Dates/Birmingham/Cycle%2
01975-1999.html
)


thankyou for that so its a modern replica then?? what about the hallmarks on it are they real or not? cheers peter

chefman1 - 2018-02-05 10:18:00
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chefman1 wrote:


thankyou for that so its a modern replica then?? what about the hallmarks on it are they real or not? cheers peter

I'd say it's a genuine Birmingham Mint product based on the hallmarks (and the "H" (Heatons = Birmingham Mint) mintmark in the field. But the "product" itself is loosely based on the design of an older item, if you see what I mean. A gilt silver souvenir made by a reputable firm with no intention to deceive.

The original Elizabethan coin would have been made by the Royal Mint, with no hallmarks, so it's intended to be a totally different item.

Edited by translateltd at 10:52 am, Mon 5 Feb

translateltd - 2018-02-05 10:43:00
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chefman1 wrote:


Hi Martin, yes not a problem please used the pics, cheers peter

Great - that's much appreciated, thanks!

translateltd - 2018-02-05 10:43:00
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This was an interesting little snippet from TradeMe this morning: apparently, in one of my categories,
"27% of your buyers are in the Auckland region, with the rest spread across New Zealand."
Isn't that roughly the geographical population breakdown anyway?

translateltd - 2018-02-12 10:52:00
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Got a mint roll of 2015 twenty cent coins today from the bank dispenser.

echoriath - 2018-02-17 15:48:00
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echoriath wrote:

Got a mint roll of 2015 twenty cent coins today from the bank dispenser.

Bank dispenser?

translateltd - 2018-02-18 10:12:00
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Bump

translateltd - 2018-02-25 13:39:00
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Hi does anyone know about new Zealand 1990 2 dollar coin with flat rim? Thanks.

35 - 2018-02-27 22:51:00
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35 wrote:

Hi does anyone know about new Zealand 1990 2 dollar coin with flat rim? Thanks.

A few were discovered at the time and they occasionally turn up, but no idea of current market value, unfortunately.

translateltd - 2018-02-28 07:10:00
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35 wrote:

Hi does anyone know about new Zealand 1990 2 dollar coin with flat rim? Thanks.

Just looking at this again - did you mean a fully milled edge without the security groove (these are the ones I've occasionally seen), or totally smooth with no milling at all?

translateltd - 2018-02-28 09:53:00
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Yes without security groove, did see on for sale not sure if it sold north island coin dealer was asking 500 dollars.

35 - 2018-02-28 11:40:00
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35 wrote:

Yes without security groove, did see on for sale not sure if it sold north island coin dealer was asking 500 dollars.

It was odd - there seemed to be a brief spate of $1 and $2 coins with full milling when they were very first released, and then they stopped. Presumably some production teething troubles.

translateltd - 2018-02-28 15:14:00
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translateltd wrote:

Bank dispenser?

Some Westpac banks have an ATM-style machine that will dispense rolls of coins.

echoriath - 2018-03-04 12:49:00
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catwoman1974 wrote:

What sort of price are these now? Thanks

https://trademe.tmcdn.co.nz/photoserver/full/727749134.jpg
https://trademe.tmcdn.co.nz/photoserver/full/727748865.jpg[/
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Broadly, with error coins the value is determined by the extent of the effort. So if it was 30% off-center it would be more valuable. If it were 70% off, even more. Having a date as well drives up the value further. While your coin is technically an error and might command a price above face, it would not likely be substantial.

If you are keen to sell it, the best way to determine the value is to list it with those pics and set a reserve you think is sensible. I'd choose $5 just because anything less is not worth mucking about with.

Just see how you go.

echoriath - 2018-03-06 17:04:00
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Bump.

translateltd - 2018-03-14 11:55:00
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Another bump - no coin chat or queries of interest lately?

translateltd - 2018-03-21 06:20:00
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Coin Help Please
This coin came in an estate lot I bought, I am assuming it is a tourist token but would like to check before I condemn it to the scrap pile.
https://trademe.tmcdn.co.nz/photoserver/full/758428374.jpg
https://trademe.tmcdn.co.nz/photoserver/full/758428164.jpg

Thanks for looking

matt61 - 2018-03-31 11:44:00
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matt61 wrote:

Coin Help Please
This coin came in an estate lot I bought, I am assuming it is a tourist token but would like to check before I condemn it to the scrap pile.
https://trademe.tmcdn.co.nz/photoserver/full/758428374.jpg
https://trademe.tmcdn.co.nz/photoserver/full/758428164.jpg
Thanks for looking

Hmm, not sure - it could be a modern reproduction but it could just as easily be early Indian/Indo-Scythian (1st centuries BC/AD) or something else in that neighbourhood. It's out of my comfort zone, but if you get no solid leads here, I'd recommend trying the forum at worldofcoins.eu if it's still going - last time I looked, there were quite a number of Indian members who were expert in ancient coins of that region. If you do get a positive ID from there (or anywhere else) I'd be interested in knowing the outcome pse.

translateltd - 2018-03-31 21:04:00
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thats awesome thanks I didn't know of that site, I will give that a go

matt61 - 2018-03-31 21:14:00
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Very interesting take on cleaning coins on that website

chrisr5 - 2018-04-01 00:34:00
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chrisr5 wrote:

Very interesting take on cleaning coins on that website

It's grown to quite a huge thread - it's been a while since I looked in at WOC.
I might try the saucepan and dishwasher trick with some stained, circulated predecimals and see what happens ...

translateltd - 2018-04-01 06:04:00
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1583629575
Wonder how disappointed the buyer will be to find it's from Majorca and those are the arms of Spain once you rotate the coin 90 degrees. Far as I can make out it's Philip V (1700-46), so not quite mediaeval either.
https://artgallery.yale.edu/collections/objects/162303

Edited by translateltd at 7:46 am, Mon 2 Apr

translateltd - 2018-04-02 07:43:00
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Still a bit ambivalent about cases like the above. Years ago I met a prominent classical numismatist who was busy cataloguing ancient coins held by various NZ museums. He had passed over a coin that was labelled as being of Emperor XYZ when, even to my relatively untrained eye, it clearly wasn't. I asked him why he didn't change it, and his reply has stuck with me ever since: "If they're happy believing it's from XYZ and no-one's losing a fortune by it, why tell them anything different?"
I'm still not entirely convinced - but in the present case, who's to say the buyer doesn't have full knowledge anyway?

translateltd - 2018-04-02 08:02:00
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Anyone know anything about this?
https://trademe.tmcdn.co.nz/photoserver/full/766099768.jpg

genuinegina - 2018-04-10 17:43:00
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genuine-gina wrote:

Anyone know anything about this?
https://trademe.tmcdn.co.nz/photoserver/full/766099768.jpg[/
quote]

Assuming it wasn't retrospective I assume it was made in 1888 - the side displayed shows Queen Victoria and four of her children with their spouses. The chappie at the top, her son-in-law Emperor Friedrich III, reigned only for three months in 1888 before dying of throat cancer, which was unfortunate for him but may be helpful for us in pinning it down. Are there further effigies or any other detail on the other side?
The 'veiled head' effigy of the Queen, though, was only introduced on coinage in the early/mid-1890s, so that may suggest it was retrospective.

Edited by translateltd at 4:55 am, Wed 11 Apr

translateltd - 2018-04-11 04:55:00
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thisandthat1 - 2018-04-11 10:54:00
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