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Welcome to the Coin Club. We are an assortment of newbies and oldbies, amateurs and experts with questions and answers for oldbies and newbies, amateurs and experts in coin collecting, also known as numismatics. Whether you are just getting started, have been collecting for years or have simply found some old coins about the place that you’d like to sell, this is the place to ask your questions.

No one has all the answers, and you may get five differing answers to the same question, yet each may be right in a manner of speaking, especially if opinions are involved. Opinions often vary. If you receive no answer to your query within 48 hours, please ask again.

echoriath - 2017-11-07 23:42:00
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Hi I have a selection of various old coins from various countries, I am not interested in collecting or keeping, wanting to have a big clear out. I live in St Johns Auckland, where would be the best place to take these to sell ? Many thanks in advance.

kaz73 - 2017-11-08 13:49:00
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question for those who sell stuff int'lly-

what is your usual practice for declaring value on small packages to be sent nzpost int air service i.e no tracking. so not really valuable stuff, say just 100-200 or so?

dtpapa - 2017-11-09 07:59:00
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translateltd wrote:

How many people here reported it to the host company as dodgy?

I certainly did and didn't receive a response.

chrisr5 - 2017-11-09 09:31:00
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kaz73 wrote:

Hi I have a selection of various old coins from various countries, I am not interested in collecting or keeping, wanting to have a big clear out. I live in St Johns Auckland, where would be the best place to take these to sell ? Many thanks in advance.

If you don't want to photograph and sell on here then try Eccles Coins in Queens Arcade, Customs St, Auck. Ph 09 303-1310. (ecclescoins.co.nz)

wasgonna - 2017-11-09 11:29:00
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chrisr5 wrote:

I certainly did and didn't receive a response.

Same - the auction seems to have been left to run.

translateltd - 2017-11-09 12:05:00
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Thought it sold for 3000 then found to be a fake, if we are talking about the NZ crown on ebay.

Edited by 35 at 8:23 am, Fri 10 Nov

35 - 2017-11-10 08:23:00
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35 wrote:

Thought it sold for 3000 then found to be a fake, if we are talking about the NZ crown on ebay.

Yes, a number of us reported it while the auction was still in progress. Was amused to see a local seller refer to it in his listing of a real one yesterday. I don't think the eBay one really required "close inspection".

translateltd - 2017-11-10 11:26:00
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The eBay auction for the fake Waitangi crown wasn't withdrawn, was a statement made anywhere that the trade didn't go through?

A seller lists a fake and you do start to wonder about the other coins they've sold. Especially when it's a Chinese gold coin with a tight angle so you can't see the case details.

chrisr5 - 2017-11-12 08:42:00
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I have some half crowns, looking at the prices they vary greatly, the years I have are 1950 x 3, 1951,1947, 1948. Whats makes some worth $50 and others $1.50. Please, what do I need to look for to get the better price.

daisygirl - 2017-11-13 18:43:00
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daisygirl wrote:

I have some half crowns, looking at the prices they vary greatly, the years I have are 1950 x 3, 1951,1947, 1948. Whats makes some worth $50 and others $1.50. Please, what do I need to look for to get the better price.


Some years are worth more than others because they're scarce, and coins in better condition will be worth more than those in poor condition. They can't be made better - once they've been circulated the value goes down.

translateltd - 2017-11-14 11:39:00
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Hi guys, can i please have some advice on this going please. Can you give me a rough grading and what you would think it would go for at Auction?

https://trademe.tmcdn.co.nz/photoserver/full/677952140.jpg

https://trademe.tmcdn.co.nz/photoserver/full/677952266.jpg

Thanks

Ronnie

cashintheattic - 2017-11-17 17:13:00
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cashintheattic wrote:

Hi guys, can i please have some advice on this going please. Can you give me a rough grading and what you would think it would go for at Auction?

The last 1 of these I came across were in the same plastic flip case along with 22 equalling good looking and different dated 1 oz Krugerrands
The West Auckland Police now have them all.
Where did you come across yours?
Alan

gammoner - 2017-11-18 15:31:00
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a rather high estimate or am I missing something?

http://www.noble.com.au/auctions/lot/?id=385768&i=1&
ret=1

dtpapa - 2017-11-18 17:00:00
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Is anyone still watching 2014 20c varieties? I got a type I (wide date) in change last night and realised I hadn't been paying much attention since the initial flurry of interest last year.

translateltd - 2017-11-22 07:13:00
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translateltd wrote:

Is anyone still watching 2014 20c varieties? I got a type I (wide date) in change last night and realised I hadn't been paying much attention since the initial flurry of interest last year.

Hi Martin
I picked up 2 bags from my local bank, $400 worth .
Out of the 2000 coins, my grand daughter found 6 only wide dated
So only 0.3% find rate.

gammoner - 2017-11-22 17:13:00
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gammoner wrote:

Hi Martin
I picked up 2 bags from my local bank, $400 worth .
Out of the 2000 coins, my grand daughter found 6 only wide dated
So only 0.3% find rate.

Thanks, Alan - that's appreciated.

translateltd - 2017-11-22 18:53:00
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what do people reckon about this?
http://www.noble.com.au/auctions/lot?id=383879

full frosty mint bloom according to noble but I am worried about that patch on the Kiwi's head, might just be toning but it looks odd in the photo. I tried to magnify it but noble's photos are rather low resolution.

Edited by dtpapa at 9:08 am, Thu 23 Nov

dtpapa - 2017-11-23 09:07:00
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dtpapa wrote:

what do people reckon about this?
http://www.noble.com.au/auctions/lot?id=383879

full frosty mint bloom according to noble but I am worried about that patch on the Kiwi's head, might just be toning but it looks odd in the photo. I tried to magnify it but noble's photos are rather low resolution.

Thumbprint to the left of the king's nose and some staining above his head are also of interest.

translateltd - 2017-11-23 11:22:00
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cashintheattic wrote:

Hi guys, can i please have some advice on this going please. Can you give me a rough grading and what you would think it would go for at Auction?

https://trademe.tmcdn.co.nz/photoserver/full/677952140.jpg

https://trademe.tmcdn.co.nz/photoserver/full/677952266.jpg

Thanks

Ronnie

Hi Ronnie

Rough grading would be aUnc or Unc.

Is it a proof copy?

Photographing it without the case on would be a better ploy.

Price it would go for at auction would be probably not nearly as much as it is worth. Unless you were lucky and got a few interested parties. Even the John Bertrand CV leaves a lot in the air on value. Possibly $6000 to $16000 depending on detail and whether it is proof strike or not as a CV. Maybe half that for selling on TM who knows.

Probably better to sell at an auction house like Noble

chrisr5 - 2017-11-23 21:32:00
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cashintheattic wrote:

Hi guys, can i please have some advice on this going please. Can you give me a rough grading and what you would think it would go for at Auction?

https://trademe.tmcdn.co.nz/photoserver/full/677952140.jpg

https://trademe.tmcdn.co.nz/photoserver/full/677952266.jpg

Thanks

Ronnie

You have to be aware that a number of surprisingly good forgeries of this coin have turned up in recent years minted in China. You need to explore the history of the example you have. many of the forgeries look like proof quality and often "too new" to be genuine. Most known genuine Waitangi crowns have a fairly poor or shallow impression of their reverse side which yours doesn't.. it really needs to be seen and inspected by experts and sold with the reputation of experts behind it to get a good price. $7,000 plus is realistic providing the coin is genuine.

kiwisteven - 2017-11-23 23:37:00
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kiwisteven wrote:

You have to be aware that a number of surprisingly good forgeries of this coin have turned up in recent years minted in China. You need to explore the history of the example you have. many of the forgeries look like proof quality and often "too new" to be genuine. Most known genuine Waitangi crowns have a fairly poor or shallow impression of their reverse side which yours doesn't.. it really needs to be seen and inspected by experts and sold with the reputation of experts behind it to get a good price. $7,000 plus is realistic providing the coin is genuine.

If it's a copy, it isn't as blatant as the one sold on eBay referred to above - which would make it far more dangerous. Checking the weight would be essential too.

translateltd - 2017-11-24 09:54:00
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Listing #: 1476548357= interesting auction=interesting reading

Edited by chefman1 at 9:30 pm, Sun 26 Nov

chefman1 - 2017-11-26 21:29:00
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chefman1 wrote:

Listing #: 1476548357= interesting auction=interesting reading

Looks like some interesting edits to the original item listing. The Q&A response that the RB considers them nothing more than tokens presumably refers to the forgeries - I don't think the crown-sized coins were ever demonetised.

translateltd - 2017-11-27 12:22:00
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Been reading a overseas blog on coin collecting it was saying 3rd party grading is killing of new collector's. Over pricing coins and making a false market, even buying in coins and grading them and selling which could mean that some might be over graded. Any thoughts?

35 - 2017-11-29 18:43:00
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35 wrote:

Been reading a overseas blog on coin collecting it was saying 3rd party grading is killing of new collector's. Over pricing coins and making a false market, even buying in coins and grading them and selling which could mean that some might be over graded. Any thoughts?

Wouldn't surprise me. By doing the grading, they're discouraging collectors from learning how to do it themselves. That bolsters their own market since they can call the shots. There are also at least two conflicting grading standards in use in the US, and that's just between the reputable ones. Then you have the fly-by-nighters who can buy their own slabbing kits and create their own labels, and aren't necessarily bound by any rules.

translateltd - 2017-11-29 22:04:00
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Bump ...

translateltd - 2017-12-05 16:15:00
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oldecurb - 2017-12-10 10:11:00
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I did my sort of regular acquisition of a couple of rolls of dollar coins, a roll of two dollar coins and a roll of twenty cent coins. The one dollar coins were two rolls of 2015s. I've not had a look through them, but here's hoping....

echoriath - 2017-12-13 22:06:00
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Bump.... I hope everyone is all set and ready for Xmas!!! Ive been extremely busy with other business ventures but back into wheeling and dealing again!!!!

cashintheattic - 2017-12-18 12:51:00
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Is a John Bertrand folder complete half crown set in good condition worth selling as is or is it better to sell coins individually ?

boby11 - 2017-12-18 17:51:00
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boby11 wrote:

Is a John Bertrand folder complete half crown set in good condition worth selling as is or is it better to sell coins individually ?

Difficult call - you could try listing at a price you're comfortable with, and if there are no bites, break it up and list individually. Certainly a great time-saver for you to sell as a single lot.

translateltd - 2017-12-19 07:13:00
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Bump, before we disappear off the viewing list ...

translateltd - 2017-12-27 07:55:00
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jym - 2017-12-27 21:18:00
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Hi, I have a $1 coin with a "cud"? on it, just curious as to whether it would be of interest to a collector and what value it might have (if any)?

https://trademe.tmcdn.co.nz/photoserver/full/702371774.jpg

Sorry for the not impressive photo!

Edited by a.woodrow at 10:10 pm, Thu 28 Dec

a.woodrow - 2017-12-28 22:09:00
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jym - 2017-12-28 23:38:00
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Turned up in the till at work, quite cool I thought, hadn't seen one like it before

a.woodrow - 2017-12-28 23:52:00
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a.woodrow wrote:

Turned up in the till at work, quite cool I thought, hadn't seen one like it before

Nice find - what year pse?

translateltd - 2017-12-29 06:37:00
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translateltd wrote:

Nice find - what year pse?

It's a 2013

a.woodrow - 2017-12-29 17:54:00
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jym - 2017-12-30 22:54:00
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I have a collection of pre-decimal coins that I wish to sell. An example is I have 587 florins 1965 all in circulated condition. I would prefer to sell as one lot but it's dificult to judge from the existing listings where to set a price. The websites list these coins as 0.85 as sell value but I guess the open market value will be somewhat less than this. Any advice ?

jan63 - 2018-01-04 20:42:00
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jan63 wrote:

I have a collection of pre-decimal coins that I wish to sell. An example is I have 587 florins 1965 all in circulated condition. I would prefer to sell as one lot but it's dificult to judge from the existing listings where to set a price. The websites list these coins as 0.85 as sell value but I guess the open market value will be somewhat less than this. Any advice ?

Good morning to you, are they all 1965 florins coins?? if you want to sell them put them up at a $1.00 no reserve auction up to you.

chefman1 - 2018-01-05 07:50:00
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Hi, hoping someone can tell me if these coins and notes are worth anything? Found in a deseased family members posessions. thanks
https://trademe.tmcdn.co.nz/photoserver/full/706824915.jpg
https://trademe.tmcdn.co.nz/photoserver/full/706823121.jpg
https://trademe.tmcdn.co.nz/photoserver/full/706822574.jpg
https://trademe.tmcdn.co.nz/photoserver/full/706821915.jpg (photo of the all the coins together)

chickalamb - 2018-01-06 14:56:00
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chickalamb wrote:

Hi, hoping someone can tell me if these coins and notes are worth anything? Found in a deseased family members posessions. thanks

Basically, no, but that brings back some memories - many of my first "world coins and notes" were bought in exactly that packaging from my local supermarket in the 1970s. I bet a lot of kids got their start with those. There was a dab of some sort of adhesive holding the coins to the paper that you could rub off gently with your thumb - no idea what that would be like after 45 or so years, though, and it would be a no-no now anyway. I also remember some of the larger banknotes they sold were folded to fit in the packaging - those were the days :-)

Edited by translateltd at 10:24 pm, Sat 6 Jan

translateltd - 2018-01-06 22:23:00
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Please can anyone tell me the value of N.Z. 1949 half crown EF condition Thanks

greenforde - 2018-01-07 10:02:00
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greenforde wrote:

Please can anyone tell me the value of N.Z. 1949 half crown EF condition Thanks

$30 in Bertrand catalogue but is a couple of years old.

Edited by wasgonna at 11:57 am, Sun 7 Jan

wasgonna - 2018-01-07 11:57:00
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greenforde wrote:

Please can anyone tell me the value of N.Z. 1949 half crown EF condition Thanks

i have just looked at your coin where did you get E/F condition from please?? to me it looks ave/cir condition with a lot of wear on both side on it, cheers

kiwisportsgirl - 2018-01-07 12:14:00
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kiwisportsgirl wrote:

i have just looked at your coin where did you get E/F condition from please?? to me it looks ave/cir condition with a lot of wear on both side on it, cheers


I agree with it being a well worn coin with a value of about $0.50c

gammoner - 2018-01-07 13:01:00
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On a good day

gammoner - 2018-01-07 13:04:00
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Nice and polished tho.

lester36 - 2018-01-07 13:08:00
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