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Welcome to the Coin Club. We are an assortment of newbies and oldbies, amateurs and experts with questions and answers for oldbies and newbies, amateurs and experts in coin collecting, also known as numismatics. Whether you are just getting started, have been collecting for years or have simply found some old coins about the place that you’d like to sell, this is the place to ask your questions.

No one has all the answers, and you may get five differing answers to the same question, yet each may be right in a manner of speaking, especially if opinions are involved. Opinions often vary. If you receive no answer to your query within 48 hours, please ask again.

echoriath - 2017-07-22 22:43:00
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come on there must be someone here who will be at the noble auction? I really need them to look at the following lot for me, and report back with detailed notes and photos if possible!

http://www.noble.com.au/auctions/lot?id=377893

dtpapa - 2017-07-23 10:56:00
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lester36 wrote:

Anyone on here that went to the numismatic conference in Auckland.
If so did you enjoy it as much as I did.
Well run and a very enjoyable weekend.


Yes, I was there. An excellent way to spend a weekend in Auckland.
Two great books launched. One on NZ Trading Banknotes and one on pre-decimal coins. Both great! The hotel was excellent, food even better and the beer was cold! Those of you who did not go missed a great opportunity to catch up with your fellow numismatists. And the rain stayed away too!
I even got the RBNZ Governors autograph on the programme. He would not sign the bunch of notes I had with me. But did get a photo with him, which is nice. Banknote collectors missed bargain at the dinner auction. I donated a polymer $5 note (unc) that I had signed by Ed back in 1999 and then countersigned by Don Brash more recently. It went cheap as chips for a ridiculously low $340.

nznotes - 2017-07-23 13:58:00
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dtpapa wrote:

gawd knows how the idiots at noble came up with this est!
http://www.noble.com.au/auctions/lot?id=377763

sold for 520, obviously I must be missing something as I'd have thought just the 2004 LSK (x2) and the 2006 NIBK by themselves would add to more than that, even at 1/2 catalogue price!

dtpapa - 2017-07-25 15:06:00
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dtpapa wrote:

come on there must be someone here who will be at the noble auction? I really need them to look at the following lot for me, and report back with detailed notes and photos if possible!

http://www.noble.com.au/auctions/lot?id=377893

Only following online. But I now have a complete set of NZ pre decimal silver! Well in a few days I will.....

chrisr5 - 2017-07-27 12:07:00
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I just noticed this on my graded 1946 1/2CR, possible mint error??

it looks like a piece of black thread, perhaps a bristle?? It seems to be adhered to the coin as it has not moved, although it might just be I can't shake it hard enough to get it to move. Then again it might have fallen out of the nose of the grader, who knows?

https://trademe.tmcdn.co.nz/photoserver/full/622439094.jpg

opinions please?

thanks!

Edited by dtpapa at 10:39 am, Fri 28 Jul

dtpapa - 2017-07-28 10:38:00
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rusty_james - 2017-07-28 14:01:00
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dtpapa wrote:

I just noticed this on my graded 1946 1/2CR, possible mint error??

it looks like a piece of black thread, perhaps a bristle?? It seems to be adhered to the coin as it has not moved, although it might just be I can't shake it hard enough to get it to move. Then again it might have fallen out of the nose of the grader, who knows?

https://trademe.tmcdn.co.nz/photoserver/full/622439094.jpg

opinions please?

thanks!

I'll go with the nose theory. More reason not to bother wasting money on slabbers.

translateltd - 2017-07-28 16:21:00
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translateltd wrote:

I'll go with the nose theory. More reason not to bother wasting money on slabbers.

I dunno, I reckon it could be a mint error like this!

https://trademe.tmcdn.co.nz/photoserver/full/622601983.jpg

dtpapa - 2017-07-28 17:36:00
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a bristle from brush used to clean dies?

dtpapa - 2017-07-29 09:17:00
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here's a dude to invite to your coin auctions!

http://www.trademe.co.nz/Members/Feedback.aspx?member=252754

dtpapa - 2017-07-29 16:27:00
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question for experts: how would you describe this level of detail?

https://trademe.tmcdn.co.nz/photoserver/full/623717147.jpg

https://trademe.tmcdn.co.nz/photoserver/full/623718645.jpg

Edited by dtpapa at 3:20 pm, Mon 31 Jul

dtpapa - 2017-07-31 15:17:00
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describe this level of detail
1/ what is the other side like in detail?
2/ looking good so far

chefman1 - 2017-07-31 19:27:00
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other side not quite so good ..

https://trademe.tmcdn.co.nz/photoserver/full/623808126.jpg

dtpapa - 2017-07-31 19:38:00
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looks like the coin has been clean, yes or no??

chefman1 - 2017-07-31 21:06:00
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chefman1 wrote:

looks like the coin has been clean, yes or no??

Looks to have been dipped

gammoner - 2017-07-31 22:47:00
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Yes been dipped tell by colour light blue on reverse. Well that's what it looks like to me.

35 - 2017-07-31 22:53:00
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gammoner wrote:

Looks to have been dipped

Hello Alan, how are you long no see, cheers Peter

chefman1 - 2017-07-31 23:00:00
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no it's no been dipped although I did apply some MS70 coin brightener with a cotton bud. Which seems to highlighted those scratches on the reverse at the back of the king's head, which I suspect are the result of some sort of rubbing to clean it at one time.

dtpapa - 2017-08-01 04:00:00
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I've just worked out a way to take better pics of your coins! Take them with the coin vertical rather than flat, and it should eliminate the problem of camera shadow. But make sure you have your coin balanced against something in case it rolls off the table!
https://trademe.tmcdn.co.nz/photoserver/full/623997322.jpg
https://trademe.tmcdn.co.nz/photoserver/full/623997204.jpg

dtpapa - 2017-08-01 10:59:00
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chefman1 wrote:

Hello Alan, how are you long no see, cheers Peter

Hi Peter, all good here, still buying both gold and silver physical and also a Gold mining share which has been around for a few years and has had some excellent results over last reported month
Listed both here and Australia under ticker NTL
Doing much better on these than owning the metals lol
All the best,Alan
PS, down in Wgtn in a couple of weeks

gammoner - 2017-08-01 13:51:00
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any theories as to what the cloudiness on King's robe is?

https://www.pcgs.com/cert/14993815

dtpapa - 2017-08-01 20:26:00
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dtpapa wrote:

any theories as to what the cloudiness on King's robe is?

https://www.pcgs.com/cert/14993815

Proof that slab grades are a waste of time and money?

translateltd - 2017-08-02 13:27:00
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translateltd wrote:

Proof that slab grades are a waste of time and money?

steady on! that was MS67 the highest graded!

dtpapa - 2017-08-02 17:25:00
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dtpapa wrote:

steady on! that was MS67 the highest graded!

Precisely.

translateltd - 2017-08-02 18:39:00
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rusty_james wrote:

Will Nz pennies ever be worth anything I have over 200 but see it pointless selling them for next to nothing as enjoy looking at them from time to time. I just find something magical about them lol if that makes sents

If they're in circulated condition, unlikely they'll ever have any monetary value - the value is in the enjoyment you're already getting from them, which has to be worth something!

translateltd - 2017-08-03 21:49:00
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Hi, does anyone know much about NZ numismatic 1840 A century of progress 1940 token, is how many made and ruff guild of price? Thanks

35 - 2017-08-04 09:19:00
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35 wrote:

Hi, does anyone know much about NZ numismatic 1840 A century of progress 1940 token, is how many made and ruff guild of price? Thanks

Several types - silver and bronze. Also versions engraved below the ship for a philatelic exhibition (gilded, silver and bronze), and a rare one with clouds in the field (above the ship, I think - will need to check that one). Which do you have?

translateltd - 2017-08-04 10:00:00
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35 wrote:

Hi, does anyone know much about NZ numismatic 1840 A century of progress 1940 token, is how many made and ruff guild of price? Thanks

Bronze $30-$50 normally Silver around $100 ish the philatelic ones tend to go for quite a bit more

Apart from the 1935 Bledisloe - Waitangi Medal and this one did the Numismatic society produce any other medals around that time or was the next one not until 1967?

coinerrorsnz - 2017-08-05 08:14:00
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coinerrorsnz wrote:


Apart from the 1935 Bledisloe - Waitangi Medal and this one did the Numismatic society produce any other medals around that time or was the next one not until 1967?

Apart from the "1942" (actually later) Tasman trial, no. MP1950/3 was a special request by the Society's Canterbury Branch, so that sort of counts, I guess.

translateltd - 2017-08-05 19:38:00
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that wasn't a flatback, was it?
1384577952

dtpapa - 2017-08-07 22:38:00
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The member deleted this message.

dtpapa - 2017-08-07 22:50:00
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dtpapa wrote:

that wasn't a flatback, was it?
1384577952

looks like it was, why??

chefman1 - 2017-08-07 23:14:00
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dtpapa wrote:

that wasn't a flatback, was it?
1384577952[/quot

Yes, but not in great condition though
Need to go easy on that brightener lol

gammoner - 2017-08-07 23:50:00
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dtpapa wrote:

that wasn't a flatback, was it?
1384577952

Looks like it to me.

translateltd - 2017-08-08 07:36:00
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gammoner wrote:
dtpapa wrote:

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that wasn't a flatback, was it?
1384577952[/quot

Yes, but not in great condition though
Need to go easy on that brightener lol

rubbish! I'll have you know it was AU!
1386295663

dtpapa - 2017-08-08 08:35:00
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chefman1 wrote:

looks like it was, why??

if I'd realised catalogue value would be 900 would have preferred to retain it in my collection!

Edited by dtpapa at 8:40 am, Tue 8 Aug

dtpapa - 2017-08-08 08:38:00
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another brilliant sale made! 1377891705

how can us mere mortals compete!!

dtpapa - 2017-08-08 08:43:00
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dtpapa wrote:

if I'd realised catalogue value would be 900 would have preferred to retain it in my collection!

If it's the same coin, the original pic didn't do it justice.

translateltd - 2017-08-08 12:03:00
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translateltd wrote:

If it's the same coin, the original pic didn't do it justice.

I won't be taking any numismatic advice from that clown gammoner then!

it's the same coin of course, although you have to look carefully due to the photo being taken in a blazing light which seems to obscure many of the surface marks.

I guess I also duded myself with this one! 1383199971

the so called experts in here have given some really sh!t opinions of late it has to be said!

Edited by dtpapa at 12:38 pm, Tue 8 Aug

dtpapa - 2017-08-08 12:32:00
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dtpapa wrote:


I won't be taking any numismatic advice from that clown gammoner then!

Based on the first picture I'd have said "circulated and cleaned" too. Shows what a difference angle and lighting can make.

translateltd - 2017-08-08 14:48:00
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the so called experts in here have given some really sh!t opinions of late it has to be said!

LOL, you ask we tell you, if you don't like it you know were to go, now thats my day.

chefman1 - 2017-08-08 14:50:00
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translateltd wrote:

Based on the first picture I'd have said "circulated and cleaned" too. Shows what a difference angle and lighting can make.

yup shows how bright light can hide faults!

dtpapa - 2017-08-09 05:40:00
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honesty does not seem to pay on trademe, which is a problem if you are honest. Half the coin listings on here would not pass the test of fair and accurate description, but nothing will be done about it because the normal consumer laws don't seem to apply. These sellers would not last in the ebay coin market because ebay buyers are more intelligent and sophisticated then your typical trademe-er, who too often is naive about coins and has more money then brains. I wouldn't like to be a fly on the wall when these schmucks take their coins in to a dealer to be valued and discover they have been totally ripped off by these trademe cowboys!

dtpapa - 2017-08-09 05:51:00
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" honesty does not seem to pay on trademe, which is a problem if you are honest." ... you won't have a problem then will you.
" These sellers would not last in the ebay coin market because ebay buyers are more intelligent and sophisticated then your typical trademe-er, who too often is naive about coins and has more money then brains." ... you just sold a flatback in this auction here 1384577952 and the buyer is on-selling it here 1386295663 and it looks like he did a better job of cleaning it than you did Deano.

pottynz - 2017-08-09 08:07:00
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what's with all these cleaning accusations? Numismatic snobbery? Jealousy?? You wouldn't recognise cleaning if it bit you on the arse!! Btw most coins on trademe have been cleaned, to some degree or other.

dtpapa - 2017-08-09 09:22:00
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dtpapa wrote:

what's with all these cleaning accusations?

They're hardly accusations when you freely admit to dipping and polishing.

translateltd - 2017-08-10 07:32:00
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translateltd wrote:

They're hardly accusations when you freely admit to dipping and polishing.

when? you must have me confused with someone else as I have admitted to neither. What I did say was that use of MS70 coin brightener is of benefit and justified in certain instances. You can check the coin forums for many coin experts who say as much.

dtpapa - 2017-08-10 10:22:00
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I reckon we need a new segment in coin club forum called the numismatic doofus of the week in which we vote on which recent buyer of a coin is the biggest moron. It to be judged on the amount paid over value, the condition of the coin, the amount of BS in the sellers description, and other factor such as why the buyer did not bid against the seller for the exact same coin a couple weeks ago when the seller purchased it for 1/4 of the price he just sold it for!

Edited by dtpapa at 10:34 am, Thu 10 Aug

dtpapa - 2017-08-10 10:28:00
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Hey Martin , Never argue with an idiot. They will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.

pottynz - 2017-08-10 11:13:00
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