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The photo provided was the 1 from the auction house. Description was - Lot of 10 Australian/NZ coins, vf plus......
I guess it all depends on what interest there is for that particular region.
Another coin I recently had graded came from TM. A 1944 Half crown graded MS-62.
I purchased this as a group of 10 random half crowns, no photo provided and described as junk coins. No mention of the 1944. Random luck.

Edited by bd30 at 11:19 am, Tue 8 Nov

bd30 - 2016-11-08 11:16:00
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have to say not very good performance from the auction house, I thought they were meant to be selling on behalf? Really should be making a better effort to get their clients the best price. Was it an online as well as in person auction?

dtpapa - 2016-11-08 12:03:00
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The auction house accepted bids through the net and had a live in house auction.

bd30 - 2016-11-08 12:15:00
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mudeki - 2016-11-08 12:26:00
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bd30 wrote:

The auction house accepted bids through the net and had a live in house auction.

so those at the auction could have inspected the lot, I suppose as it was Canadian there was not so much demand. NZ coins are certainly not unwanted, and with better photo and accurate description there would certainly have been much online interest. Usually in mixed lots like that it is assumed by most that the coins will not be top notch, so it really is a coup to get quality coins so cheap. The 1937 MS64+ is also excellent!

Edited by dtpapa at 1:04 pm, Tue 8 Nov

dtpapa - 2016-11-08 13:03:00
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Yeah the 1937 graded well. I was hoping for a MS-65. But in saying that there is a black mark in the ear of the King. Nice frosty finish on the coin too.

Here's the 1944 Half Crown - https://trademe.tmcdn.co.nz/photoserver/full/528141685.jpg

Look forward to sharing the other photo's shortly.

bd30 - 2016-11-08 13:42:00
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that's very nice, it probably has been very lightly circulated, but you'd need to part with a lot of dosh to get anything much better than that.

dtpapa - 2016-11-08 16:09:00
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bd30 wrote:

Yeah the 1937 graded well. I was hoping for a MS-65. But in saying that there is a black mark in the ear of the King. Nice frosty finish on the coin too.

Here's the 1944 Half Crown - https://trademe.tmcdn.co.nz/photoserver/full/528141685.jpg

Look forward to sharing the other photo's shortly.

The left set of "lines" radiating from the mouth of the tiki-figure to the left of the arms are the first sign of wear on the reverse according to Clarke's grading guide. They look a little flat on the picture, though it's hard to see without further magnification.

translateltd - 2016-11-09 06:50:00
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At a guess I'd say

AU50,AU53,AU55,AU58 approx to various degrees of EF

MS60,MS61,MS62, approx AU

MS63, MS64, MS65 =UNC

MS66, MS67, MS68, MS69, MS70 =GEM!

dtpapa - 2016-11-09 07:53:00
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Morning all,
Just thought I would share another one of my coins. This was the very first purchase of a graded coin I made, years ago -

https://trademe.tmcdn.co.nz/photoserver/full/528444389.jpg

PCGS MS-65

This is the purchase that kick started my interest in the slabbed coin. I guess my first introduction to the concept.

bd30 - 2016-11-09 08:44:00
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Does anyone else have a yarn about finding a gem in random purchases or off the radar auctions?

Edited by bd30 at 8:06 pm, Thu 10 Nov

bd30 - 2016-11-10 20:05:00
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I guess it's all relative. For me the biggest benefit is when sellers take marginal photos and politely refuse to provide better ones. Early on in my TM "career", I saw an auction that included a 1909 US penny. I think I asked if it had an "S" and if they could provide a better photo of both sides. They said it did have an "S" but could not be bothered to post better photos. I won the auction, which included some other coins that were ok, but the 1909-S turned out to be a VDB.

echoriath - 2016-11-10 21:44:00
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Side note: As a numismatist, my biggest disappointment about the outcome of the US election is that it means the short-fingered vulgarian will one day end up on US dollar coins if he actually gets inaugurated.

echoriath - 2016-11-10 21:47:00
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echoriath wrote:

Side note: As a numismatist, my biggest disappointment about the outcome of the US election is that it means the short-fingered vulgarian will one day end up on US dollar coins if he actually gets inaugurated.

You just ruined my day!

kiwialan - 2016-11-11 08:11:00
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kiwialan wrote:

You just ruined my day!

Mission accomplished!

echoriath - 2016-11-11 20:21:00
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I once got a very nice flat back florin in a mixed lot from one of the noble auctions that did not have any photos provided. It was in the vicinity of AU, which was way better than I had expected given the estimate. However in all other noble auctions without photo that I have won I have not been so lucky, definitely in the red overall. My advice is no pics, don't bid!

dtpapa - 2016-11-12 14:05:00
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11960240006 Any idea why this went so high ?

lester36 - 2016-11-12 17:03:00
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One zero too many ?

1196024006 ??

funho1 - 2016-11-12 17:08:00
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And I have no idea why except winner might have forgotten to hit 'Autobid" ?

funho1 - 2016-11-12 17:09:00
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The cent is in good nick (likely MS-60+, but still), as is the token, but that's too rich for my blood. And well above book on the cent.

echoriath - 2016-11-12 19:31:00
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Catalogue for the token is $150, presumably for an "average" example. But yes, looking at the jump from underbid to high bid, either a slip of the finger or missing the Autobid button, or both.

translateltd - 2016-11-12 20:16:00
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Bump ...

translateltd - 2016-11-19 06:30:00
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I wonder what's happened to coinworld? Did trademe give him the boot for operating multiple accounts? That would be most unlike tm, given the dosh he was making for them. The inverters sales don't look as promising. What's in a name?

dtpapa - 2016-11-19 10:30:00
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Still listed as a member but "no current listings".

translateltd - 2016-11-19 13:14:00
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yes he is still trading under his inverters id. Given the following he had built up with his coin world brand I can't see any logical reason to switch his coin business to the other id, unless tm told him he had to?

dtpapa - 2016-11-19 20:58:00
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oldecurb - 2016-11-19 23:04:00
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don't think that id is closed. I can see coins for sale right now. I've got no problem with people buying low and selling high. My issue is with those that claim so and so a coin is in uncirc condition, and priced as such, when it can't possibly be so, and the seller well knows this is the case given the little they paid for it in the first place.

dtpapa - 2016-11-20 07:23:00
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I'm not too fussed about multiple ID's as long as one of them isn't bidding on the other's stuff :-)

translateltd - 2016-11-20 07:28:00
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Hi, Jason re nz coin errors thanks for your time and effort with your site, its great for collectors. Will sort my errors out and send some pics later.
re Coinworld yes hate say it but up grades coins, above there true grades, feel for buyers who pay alot for there coins only in time to find they over payed. Did ask a question and got no reply except blocked.

35 - 2016-11-20 09:48:00
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jym - 2016-11-20 14:49:00
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Here's a point of view on it:

http://old.stacksbowers.com/NewsMedia/Blogs/TabId/780/ArtMID
/2678/ArticleID/64495/What-is-a-Specimen-Coin.aspx

echoriath - 2016-11-20 15:08:00
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jym wrote:

Hi Guys
Are Specimen and UNC Coins the same?
This person has listed this item as Proof
http://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/Listing.aspx?id=1201147420
But the packet says Specimen.

It is not a proof. The official release information says "reverse proof-like" for the specimen, but the proof is a separate issue. Here's the detail:
https://trademe.tmcdn.co.nz/photoserver/full/531899906.jpg

translateltd - 2016-11-20 15:50:00
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clowns at noble are calling this specimen like!

http://www.noble.com.au/auctions/lot?id=366988

Edited by dtpapa at 5:57 pm, Sun 20 Nov

dtpapa - 2016-11-20 17:56:00
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jym - 2016-11-20 19:12:00
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I think a distinction needs to be made between the commercial use of the term applied at the time of production/marketing (which we seem to have done in NZ from 1965 to 1970 and again more recently with items such as the one jym highlighted above) and the term applied retrospectively, like the 1794 dollar and 1935 florin in the other links. All doubtless valid but the implications are a little different in either case.

translateltd - 2016-11-20 19:50:00
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dtpapa wrote:

clowns at noble are calling this specimen like!

http://www.noble.com.au/auctions/lot?id=366988

Still very nice from those photos. Taken with a modified axial lighting setup it wont show the reflection and how nice it really looks but the detail all seems to be showing. Just a knock to the right of the Kings eye and one above the Kiwis right leg would be only noticeable marks but nothing else stands out at first glance.

mudeki - 2016-11-20 20:19:00
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35 wrote:

Hi, Jason re nz coin errors thanks for your time and effort with your site, its great for collectors. Will sort my errors out and send some pics later..

Thanks :-) I look forward to some photos

I have just been trying to catch up on some previous photos that have been emailed before I take some more of mine tonight

mudeki - 2016-11-20 20:23:00
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I suppose it could be quite nice, but I don't trust noble after they dudded me a couple of times, so maybe I'm biased. I count at least 5 cuts to the coin, under the King's eye and above, and also on his nose. And those are just the ones visible in the photo!

dtpapa - 2016-11-20 21:58:00
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dtpapa wrote:

I suppose it could be quite nice, but I don't trust noble after they dudded me a couple of times, so maybe I'm biased. I count at least 5 cuts to the coin, under the King's eye and above, and also on his nose. And those are just the ones visible in the photo!

I wanted to bid on 1 or 2 lots but cant even register any of my Credit Cards on invaluable this time. Has worked in the past just wish nobles would use the older live bidding system

mudeki - 2016-11-20 22:00:00
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mudeki wrote:

I wanted to bid on 1 or 2 lots but cant even register any of my Credit Cards on invaluable this time. Has worked in the past just wish nobles would use the older live bidding system

I don't think I follow. Once you have registered isn't that it? You then do your bids and the auction house in question is the one to bill you?

dtpapa - 2016-11-21 20:55:00
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dtpapa wrote:

I don't think I follow. Once you have registered isn't that it? You then do your bids and the auction house in question is the one to bill you?

I was not able to register for the auctions without an active credit card to verify who I was or something like that the 24hr support people told me. Found a card that worked but for some reason the BNZ cards did not work just not sure why.

mudeki - 2016-11-21 23:33:00
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ah I see, you haven't registered with invaluable yet, I thought you had? At least this means you won't be bidding against me, although I have a feeling the bidding might go quite high on the NZ selection as it is better and larger than usual and should attract more buyers.

You almost talked me into bidding on that 1935 florin! Although the scratches probably mean it will not grade any better than MS65, if you were lucky, specimen like or not. That is another of my gripes with noble. Sometimes they might point out that a coin has a scratch, and other times they make no mention of it.

My internet isn't really fast enough to live bid with confidence, but one good thing is that if there are a number of lots you are interested in, and as long as they are far enough apart you have enough time to bid on an upcoming lot based on the result of your bid in a previous, which helps if you don't want to exceed your numismatic budget!

Edited by dtpapa at 9:02 am, Tue 22 Nov

dtpapa - 2016-11-22 09:00:00
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I was registered with Invaluable but my old card had expired so had to add a new one. managed to get it to work but now invaluable is not showing the live picture or letting me live bid so if it doesn't work by lunch time I give up. I needed to live bid for just that reason this time I don't have a huge budget as have spent far to much in the last 6 months

Moral of the story is not list anything in the first few hundred lots if selling as they always seem to have issues. Good luck today :-)

mudeki - 2016-11-22 11:59:00
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what I do is put all the lots I have some interest in into my watchlist. Then for the first one I might bid say 5 mins before the lot goes live, then observe the result, and then maybe bid on my next lot, or not. Obviously this method will fail, or get tricky for lots that are very close together!

dtpapa - 2016-11-22 12:31:00
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Spoke to Nobles staff and Invaluable has crashed today so no bids placed got through so I guess I have not won anything in the first session :-( bye bye coin errors

mudeki - 2016-11-22 13:26:00
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fuckin' heck! can't even log in to invaluable! I thought noble allowed bids on their site up to 2 hrs before start of the session, but I can't see any bid options on their website for the NZ coins?

dtpapa - 2016-11-22 14:01:00
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Call them they said I could email bids if needed

I wont have time to sort mine as still at work.

might be working for 2:30 session I can only wish still most stuff I want is later in the week lol

Edited by mudeki at 2:36 pm, Tue 22 Nov

mudeki - 2016-11-22 14:31:00
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