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Welcome to the Coin Club. We are an assortment of newbies and oldbies, amateurs and experts with questions and answers for oldbies and newbies, amateurs and experts in coin collecting, also known as numismatics. Whether you are just getting started, have been collecting for years or have simply found some old coins about the place that you’d like to sell, this is the place to ask your questions.

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echoriath - 2016-09-30 17:42:00
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Managed to pick up a $200 bag of 20c from local BNZ today.
Not looking promising to date with the first 200 checked with 184x 2006 and 16x 2008

gammoner - 2016-09-30 22:17:00
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jym - 2016-09-30 22:46:00
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Ok, next 200 are
152 x 2006, 44 x 2008 , 4 narrow date 2014

600 to go and will do these mid next week

gammoner - 2016-09-30 23:06:00
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Jeez, now I'm feeling lucky! I got another mint roll and another ACM roll from Westpac's dispenser (which requires my bank card as ID, BTW). The mint roll was 25 narrow date 2014s. The ACM roll had five narrow dates and 1 wide date. Clearly, the trick here is to get your coins in mixed lots.

I stopped into a cafe around the corner from work on Wednesday. The cashier had a bunch of change splashed across the counter, which she was counting. I asked if I could take all her 20 cent pieces, but she reckoned they were for the register. I had no expectation of persuading her (and did not succeed), but explained why I wanted to look. She let me have a squizz at a few, and in the first ten 20 cent pieces I looked at, I found one wide date 2014 and one narrow. I don't know if she kept either.

echoriath - 2016-10-01 00:25:00
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I picked up $100 in 20c from a BNZ in Hamilton the other day. The lady said, hesitantly, "May I ask ...?" and I just said "Research". She was happy with that. Result was 83 2014 coins in total, four of which were Type I (wide date), so roughly 1 in 40, which tallies with Jason's average so far. Also three dated 2015, on which more (possibly) later once I've squinted at them a little more. These do seem to have the Type I reverse, which is curious.

translateltd - 2016-10-01 07:49:00
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I lent my latest premier to someone who has lost it temporarily (until they get another off tm) and was hoping someone could give me pricing on a set of Bertrands Albums. An estimate of single books ie 3d, 6d, 1/- etc would be awesome too. Cheers.

iamriff - 2016-10-01 10:33:00
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iamriff wrote:

I lent my latest premier to someone who has lost it temporarily (until they get another off tm) and was hoping someone could give me pricing on a set of Bertrands Albums. An estimate of single books ie 3d, 6d, 1/- etc would be awesome too. Cheers.

I'm away from my desk right now but don't think the book lists albums - would be a good idea for next year, though, if it doesn't.

translateltd - 2016-10-01 15:08:00
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translateltd wrote:

I'm away from my desk right now but don't think the book lists albums - would be a good idea for next year, though, if it doesn't.

It is kind of already listed at the bottom of each page just need it for the decimals up to 2006. If you go by the listing of coins in average condition excluding varieties etc

$60 Halfpenny
$60 Penny
$50 Threepence
$95 Sixpence
$120 Shilling
$200 Florin
$245 Halfcrown

mudeki - 2016-10-01 19:32:00
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Antique Chinese silver coins .How is it that you can ask a question on a listing and it is not answered or appear on the listing when the auction finishes ?

lester36 - 2016-10-01 20:19:00
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lester36 wrote:

Antique Chinese silver coins .How is it that you can ask a question on a listing and it is not answered or appear on the listing when the auction finishes ?

Have they changed the setup so you don't get to see unanswered questions when the auction finishes?

translateltd - 2016-10-02 07:37:00
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I'd certainly allow the possibility that TM has quietly set it up so that unanswered questions disappear, especially with wording like this under the "Questions" tab:

"There were no answered questions or comments placed on this listing."

Leaves me wondering: What about unanswered questions?

Under policies, it still says that "Your question will not be visible on the auction until the seller answers it or the auction closes."

Are you absolutely certain your question was there, and that in looking for it after the auction closed, you are looking on the "Questions" tab? I'm not being cheeky, but I'm now curious. I cannot think of any recent auctions where I asked questions that went unanswered, so I cannot check myself.

The next step might be to ask in Trade Me Discussion.

echoriath - 2016-10-02 08:57:00
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Hi Timothy found the questions When I looked again.
Still good money for fakes not in reproduction category .
I had also ask on the report icon at the bottom of one of the listings and got no reply.

Edited by lester36 at 9:00 am, Sun 2 Oct

lester36 - 2016-10-02 08:58:00
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Cool. Yes, it could be argued that putting the Questions on a separate tab is still a way to obscure them. I think it would be better if it was all on one page.

Sadly true about fakes. Good on you for reporting them when you find them.

echoriath - 2016-10-02 09:13:00
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mudeki wrote:

It is kind of already listed at the bottom of each page just need it for the decimals up to 2006. If you go by the listing of coins in average condition excluding varieties etc

$60 Halfpenny
$60 Penny
$50 Threepence
$95 Sixpence
$120 Shilling
$200 Florin
$245 Halfcrown

True - I read this as meaning the albums themselves, rather than the full year sets. I still get occasional enquiries about the original John Bertrand albums so the interest is still there. And with the Premier catalogue going out under the JB imprint now, it could be good to include them.

translateltd - 2016-10-02 09:48:00
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I did a search for "Antique Chinese Silver Coin" in the expired listings and found seven items, all underweight and all looking like the typical gunmetal grey colour that used to scream "Chinese repro". The blurry finish on some of them doesn't help, either. The junk dollar didn't look too bad in the photos but the weight looked low once again.

lester36 wrote:

Hi Timothy found the questions When I looked again.
Still good money for fakes not in reproduction category .
I had also ask on the report icon at the bottom of one of the listings and got no reply.

translateltd - 2016-10-02 16:05:00
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thanks for the prices on Bertrand albums folks. much appreciated. Yes it would be a good idea to have the prices for these listed as they are still a popular item.

iamriff - 2016-10-04 19:09:00
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iamriff wrote:

thanks for the prices on Bertrand albums folks. much appreciated. Yes it would be a good idea to have the prices for these listed as they are still a popular item.

Those prices, as I understand them, are not for in-album sets, but are just for full year runs in average condition.

translateltd - 2016-10-05 10:22:00
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gammoner wrote:

Ok, next 200 are
152 x 2006, 44 x 2008 , 4 narrow date 2014

600 to go and will do these mid next week

These last 600 were better
76 narrow 2014 and 2 wide 2014, 6 x 2015
1 x 2001 5c piece lol so down 15c on the exchange
Total out of the 1000 coins were 82 x2014 with 2 of them being the wide date

gammoner - 2016-10-05 22:03:00
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gammoner wrote:


Total out of the 1000 coins were 82 x2014 with 2 of them being the wide date

This is great - thanks. Still keeping to roughly 1 in 40.

translateltd - 2016-10-06 10:21:00
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I have not counted the other dates so far, which are only either 2006 or 2008. I have seen exactly zero 2015s. Another lot of 200 from ACL rolls revealed similar ratios to the other previous counts. Exact numbers to follow. I'm averaging just shy of 20% wide dates.

echoriath - 2016-10-06 10:24:00
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translateltd wrote:

I did a search for "Antique Chinese Silver Coin" in the expired listings and found seven items, all underweight and all looking like the typical gunmetal grey colour that used to scream "Chinese repro". The blurry finish on some of them doesn't help, either. The junk dollar didn't look too bad in the photos but the weight looked low once again.

This trader responded appropriately by withdrawing the auction once he had the evidence.
http://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/Listing.aspx?id=1174156964

puckles - 2016-10-06 11:47:00
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echoriath wrote:

I have not counted the other dates so far, which are only either 2006 or 2008. I have seen exactly zero 2015s. Another lot of 200 from ACL rolls revealed similar ratios to the other previous counts. Exact numbers to follow. I'm averaging just shy of 20% wide dates.

Of the eight rolls I looked through last night, there were 5 Type I and 31 Type II, so still just a bit shy of the 20% mark, but not by a lot. Then today at the Westpac at the north end of George Street I got 100 loose 20-cent pieces and had a 100% success rate: there were two 2014s, and both were Type I.

;-)

echoriath - 2016-10-06 22:56:00
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Then today at the Westpac at the north end of George Street I got 100 loose 20-cent pieces and had a 100% success rate: there were two 2014s, and both were Type I.

Am thinking of moving to ChCh now lol

gammoner - 2016-10-08 10:12:00
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gammoner wrote:

Am thinking of moving to ChCh now lol

Gonna have to come a bit further south, mate.

;-)

My average is almost down to 15% of 2014s as Type I. I'm gonna have to try and return to the banks I first went to and see if I can bring it back up.

BTW, mudeki, I'm wondering if that roll you had listed with the Type I 2014 on the front is a Reserve Bank roll. If so, my hunch is that that is an entire roll of them. Have you opened any Reserve Bank rolls that had a Type I 2014 on the front? All the bank rolls I got with 2014s were nothing but Type II, and that was the entire roll.

The Westpac change machine has run out of Reserve Bank rolls and is now only dispensing the ACM ones.

echoriath - 2016-10-10 21:49:00
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echoriath wrote:


BTW, mudeki, I'm wondering if that roll you had listed with the Type I 2014 on the front is a Reserve Bank roll. If so, my hunch is that that is an entire roll of them. Have you opened any Reserve Bank rolls that had a Type I 2014 on the front? All the bank rolls I got with 2014s were nothing but Type II, and that was the entire roll.
.

As far as I am aware all the rolls I have are type 2. I have the week off work so will have to have a closer look.

mudeki - 2016-10-11 00:26:00
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I have just checked 100 loose 20c coins from kiwibank 11 were 2014 narrow type, 1 only 2015, all the rest 2006 or 8

oldman3 - 2016-10-11 11:02:00
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jym - 2016-10-11 21:51:00
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jym wrote:

Is Type 1 long or short date?

Type 1 is the wide date, the newly discovered variety; type 2 is the narrow date that seems to make up the majority of the 2014 coins (so far).

translateltd - 2016-10-11 22:19:00
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jym - 2016-10-12 13:30:00
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Anyone had a look at 2014 twenty cent pieces in New Plymouth yet? I'm just about to go out and have a look and extend the research.. Wish me luck.

echoriath - 2016-10-14 13:59:00
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Good Luck

gammoner - 2016-10-14 21:39:00
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OK, $80 in 20 cent pieces and I'm on 2% of 2014s (3 out of 137) are Type I so far. Oh, and I finally found one 2015. What's up with the years of release (or not) being so random?

echoriath - 2016-10-15 07:27:00
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echoriath wrote:

OK, $80 in 20 cent pieces and I'm on 2% of 2014s (3 out of 137) are Type I so far. Oh, and I finally found one 2015. What's up with the years of release (or not) being so random?

They aren't released until needed, which can sometimes take a while. I suspect newest stocks sometimes get accessed first (nearest the vault door, perhaps, while the older stocks are at the back?), which could be why the Type I 2014s, which appear to be an earlier strike than the Type IIs, have just starting to appear recently.

Edited by translateltd at 10:00 am, Sat 15 Oct

translateltd - 2016-10-15 09:59:00
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Hey guys, its been awhile.... Does anyone know what this is?

https://trademe.tmcdn.co.nz/photoserver/full/521501880.jpg

My one has 1911 stamped under the bust

Thanks

cashintheattic - 2016-10-16 14:12:00
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cashintheattic wrote:

Hey guys, its been awhile.... Does anyone know what this is?

https://trademe.tmcdn.co.nz/photoserver/full/521501880.jpg

My one has 1911 stamped under the bust

Thanks

Italian medal - ESERCITO ITALIANO means ITALIAN ARMY. Here's one in bronze: http://picclick.de/GX829-Medaille-Vittorio-Emanuele-III-Gare
-fra-191785741819.html

translateltd - 2016-10-16 20:49:00
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cashintheattic wrote:

Hey guys, its been awhile.... Does anyone know what this is?

https://trademe.tmcdn.co.nz/photoserver/full/521501880.jpg

My one has 1911 stamped under the bust

Thanks

The legend around the bottom is a little unusual as I read it - CONTEST BETWEEN LANCE-CORPORALS AND SOLDIERS ... aren't L/Cs soldiers too?

translateltd - 2016-10-17 08:29:00
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Hi All,

what is a good condition 1953 New Zealand crown coin worth please?

''The 1953 New Zealand crown obverse
features the laureate bust of young Queen
Elizabeth II facing right. The legend reads:
'+QUEEN-ELIZABETH-THE-SECO-
ND'.

The reverse shows Elizabeth's royal monogram,
(E II R), with the royal crown above, and a Maori
design below. The Southern Cross frames the
main design. The surrounding legend reads:
'NEW ZEALAND CROWN + 1953'.''

rexavier - 2016-10-18 13:36:00
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daarhn wrote:

Hi All,

what is a good condition 1953 New Zealand crown coin worth please?

''The 1953 New Zealand crown obverse
features the laureate bust of young Queen
Elizabeth II facing right. The legend reads:
'+QUEEN-ELIZABETH-THE-SECO-
ND'.

The reverse shows Elizabeth's royal monogram,
(E II R), with the royal crown above, and a Maori
design below. The Southern Cross frames the
main design. The surrounding legend reads:
'NEW ZEALAND CROWN + 1953'.''

They're not rare, unfortunately - an average to middling one might sell for $5-$10, and a perfect one that's never been touched by human hands and kept in tissue paper all its life would catalogue only at $15, sorry to say.

translateltd - 2016-10-18 14:47:00
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translateltd wrote:

They're not rare, unfortunately - an average to middling one might sell for $5-$10, and a perfect one that's never been touched by human hands and kept in tissue paper all its life would catalogue only at $15, sorry to say.

Thank you...tossing it into the kids tincup to use in their mockshop setup..various coins...little ones are amusing playing grownups

rexavier - 2016-10-18 15:03:00
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translateltd wrote:

They aren't released until needed, which can sometimes take a while. I suspect newest stocks sometimes get accessed first (nearest the vault door, perhaps, while the older stocks are at the back?), which could be why the Type I 2014s, which appear to be an earlier strike than the Type IIs, have just starting to appear recently.

Ok, I think that may have all been well clarified before, and maybe this time it will sink into my hard skull. I'm with you to a point, but were no 20 cent pieces made in 2007 or 2009-2013? All I've found are an abundance of 2006, 2008 and 2014 and one single 2015 out of about 4000 coins.

Edited by echoriath at 12:03 pm, Fri 21 Oct

echoriath - 2016-10-21 11:56:00
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jym - 2016-10-21 13:03:00
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echoriath wrote:

Ok, I think that may have all been well clarified before, and maybe this time it will sink into my hard skull. I'm with you to a point, but were no 20 cent pieces made in 2007 or 2009-2013? All I've found are an abundance of 2006, 2008 and 2014 and one single 2015 out of about 4000 coins.

Correct, only four years for circulation so far - 06, 08, 14 and 15. The rest were CLO's for collector sets.

translateltd - 2016-10-21 15:01:00
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jym wrote:

Found two type 1 20c coins last night.
Probably looked at about 60 coins.

Thanks for the update! Just to be sure, was that about 60 2014-dated coins or 60 overall? If it was the overall total, how many 2014 coins of both types were there pse?

translateltd - 2016-10-21 15:03:00
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Bargain!!!

1181121280

dtpapa - 2016-10-21 19:48:00
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dtpapa wrote:

Bargain!!!

1181121280

Oh dear. I know the buyer, too.

translateltd - 2016-10-21 21:11:00
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jym - 2016-10-21 23:05:00
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Have many of the type1 2004 20c have come on the market for sale ?
Have only seen the one auction with both types and the winner of the auction paid $1

gammoner - 2016-10-22 10:34:00
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Sorry for Typo, should have been 2014

gammoner - 2016-10-22 10:56:00
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7900 and over the page we go

gammoner - 2016-10-22 10:56:00
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