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7751
35 wrote:

Listing 1138747063 looks cleaned to me or am I wrong?

Yes it has been dipped and likely a toothpick etc to go around the sharp edges. Definitely not high grade, It is well circulated (not gradable)

numismatist - 2016-08-14 19:40:00
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numismatist - 2016-08-14 20:39:00
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One coin, three auctions!!
1114630461,
1131226100,
(Satin Lustre, ROFL!!)
1142243108

dtpapa - 2016-08-15 22:00:00
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dtpapa wrote:

One coin, three auctions!!
1114630461,
1131226100,
(Satin Lustre, ROFL!!)
1142243108


Inflation ?

lester36 - 2016-08-16 07:14:00
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love the fingerprint in the latest auction. Sadly the photos in the first listing were the best and before it was cleaned. Middle seller got the best of that one for sure

mudeki - 2016-08-16 21:49:00
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I hate it so much when a big stupid twat puts his sticky fingers all over a nice coin spoiling the satin luster!!

Middle seller did indeed get a good deal, it's quite a nice example, almost AU (AAU?) I'd say. I'd have bid on it if I'd spotted it. Not sure how I missed it.

Edited by dtpapa at 5:38 pm, Wed 17 Aug

dtpapa - 2016-08-17 17:37:00
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The member deleted this message.

purple666 - 2016-08-18 13:34:00
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purple666 wrote:

http://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/Listing.asp
x?id=1140535586

If only this were true

Ho ho - and even if it were, the verdigris and the scratch in the obv. field would relegate this to the other 19 million or so anyway!

translateltd - 2016-08-18 15:11:00
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purple666 wrote:

http://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/Listing.asp
x?id=1140535586

If only this were true


Free shipping tho , I think it comes with a free ship.

lester36 - 2016-08-18 17:47:00
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translateltd wrote:

I don't know about proofs ever winding up in circulation, but you do find the occasional "non-existent date" (i.e. set-only) coin in circulation, which can only have come from a broken set. I found a few when I was making up date runs of the "large" coins in 2006/07, for example. Whether they come from dealers breaking up sets to sell coins individually (which does happen) of if they're done "officially" - or if they're stolen lots broken up for spending - probably no-one will ever know. I would have to check references but I think some 1965/67 sets were officially broken up for circulation since far too many were made, so there may have been some "semi-proof" strikes among those. Apart from that, the only official use of collector issues that I know of was the release of excess 1970 "Mt Cook/Aorangi" dollars in the Cook Islands for circulation there.

A belated thanks for your reply.

The problem with the SF mint dumping substandard coins into circulation theory is that they do no circulation strikes. I found one collector site where people had rather long lists of ex-proof coins they'd gotten from circulation. It just seemed quite a large number, but maybe only small numbers of collectors actually scavenge so thoroughly as to find them. They do tend to stand out in a handful of regular circulation strike coins.

echoriath - 2016-08-21 10:47:00
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echoriath wrote:


The problem with the SF mint dumping substandard coins into circulation theory is that they do no circulation strikes.

So they'd be the same as our "set only" coins, the difference being we'd spot them by the date, and in the US they'd stand out by mintmark, if anyone looked that closely, aside from other questions of strike quality?

translateltd - 2016-08-21 12:17:00
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Yes, mintmark is the dead giveaway. In saying that, I pulled the two proof dollars out of rolls and immediately set them aside from my main "keeper" pile because they clearly stood out. Because the mintmark is on the rim, it was only later when I looked closer and saw the "S" that I realised why they had an actual mirror finish!

I might add that this dollar design with edge detailing ("IN GOD WE TRUST" (until 2009), "E PLURIBUS UNUM" and date/mintmark) is totally ridiculous. The edges (including dates) will be a bigger failure than the early versions of the SLQ, whose dates were famous for wearing off.

echoriath - 2016-08-21 13:31:00
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one ordinary coin, two morons!!

1131466954

dtpapa - 2016-08-22 20:00:00
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what's happened to coinworld? Our Jas is cleaning up the antique buyers auctions!! Some good buys to be had there too, they are actually quite often better than they look,although not always it has to be said. The florins looked nice, the 1942 in particular.

Edited by dtpapa at 8:06 pm, Mon 22 Aug

dtpapa - 2016-08-22 20:02:00
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Does anyone know of any information regarding the 2 different font sizes on the 1998 proof set boxes?, I am trying to work out which one is more scarce.

numismatist - 2016-08-22 20:15:00
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numismatist wrote:

Does anyone know of any information regarding the 2 different font sizes on the 1998 proof set boxes?, I am trying to work out which one is more scarce.

Do you have a couple of pics to show the difference and will come back to you with results from mine in the next couple of days

gammoner - 2016-08-22 21:17:00
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dtpapa wrote:

what's happened to coinworld? Our Jas is cleaning up the antique buyers auctions!! Some good buys to be had there too, they are actually quite often better than they look,although not always it has to be said. The florins looked nice, the 1942 in particular.

I did put my hand up once but on checking auction looked like it got smacked down by Jason

gammoner - 2016-08-22 21:19:00
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The images are rather large so might take a minute to load.

http://iforce.co.nz/i/1pu0hufr.tgi.jpg

http://iforce.co.nz/i/bkyeujzi.hf4.jpg

http://iforce.co.nz/i/4zstngbk.4le.jpg

numismatist - 2016-08-22 22:25:00
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gammoner wrote:

I did put my hand up once but on checking auction looked like it got smacked down by Jason

I think that auction was the only one I really wanted but no surprise I am addicted to error / variety coins.

Not sure what happened to coinworld this week maybe sales are down for him he has not been getting the same prices now he does not bid his own auctions up lol. Wish he had out bid me on one or 2 however.

mudeki - 2016-08-22 22:48:00
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numismatist wrote:

The images are rather large so might take a minute to load.

Very interesting cant say I have heard of that before

mudeki - 2016-08-22 22:49:00
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mudeki wrote:

Very interesting cant say I have heard of that before

New one on me too - odd to have had a second run of packaging for such a low overall mintage.

translateltd - 2016-08-23 07:50:00
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numismatist wrote:

Does anyone know of any information regarding the 2 different font sizes on the 1998 proof set boxes?, I am trying to work out which one is more scarce.

Opened at random 10 sets and the larger font there were 3 sets and smaller font 7
Also just noticed on the 1998 Dunedin proof $5 coin there are two versions of the printed label attached to the outer white housing box

gammoner - 2016-08-23 13:10:00
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gammoner wrote:

Opened at random 10 sets and the larger font there were 3 sets and smaller font 7
Also just noticed on the 1998 Dunedin proof $5 coin there are two versions of the printed label attached to the outer white housing box

All good information. I had 18 with small font vs 2 with large font.. So it does appear the large is the more scarce one.

When I get some time i'll check the coins and information card in the large font boxes to confirm no differences there.

numismatist - 2016-08-23 17:43:00
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The NZ banknotes sets in Perspex had a variation as well off the top of my head

nznotes - 2016-08-23 22:46:00
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anyone had any luck in importing MS70 coin cleaner into the country? I tried it using the ebay global shipping program, but my order got cancelled for being a restricted item!

dtpapa - 2016-08-24 22:29:00
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dtpapa wrote:

anyone had any luck in importing MS70 coin cleaner into the country? I tried it using the ebay global shipping program, but my order got cancelled for being a restricted item!

You could try youshop but if NZ Post open the parcel they will dispose of it. Just did a quick google search and it contains caustic soda and is clearly marked on the packing so it could be the luck of the draw as to who or if they spot it. Caustic soda being a prohibited item but so are coins so who knows lol.

I was wondering if that product is what PCGS are using as they offer a cleaning option before grading coins now for an extra fee.

mudeki - 2016-08-24 23:40:00
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7777 - feeling lucky!

;-)

Edited by echoriath at 10:17 am, Thu 25 Aug

echoriath - 2016-08-25 10:04:00
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echoriath wrote:

7777 - feeling lucky!

;-)

Imagine the luck to be had 1,111 messages from now!

translateltd - 2016-08-25 13:11:00
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mudeki wrote:

You could try youshop but if NZ Post open the parcel they will dispose of it. Just did a quick google search and it contains caustic soda and is clearly marked on the packing so it could be the luck of the draw as to who or if they spot it. Caustic soda being a prohibited item but so are coins so who knows lol.

I was wondering if that product is what PCGS are using as they offer a cleaning option before grading coins now for an extra fee.

yes could try youshop, might be able to sneak it thru, although I think they open all parcels as a matter of routine, so chances are it would get stopped. I managed to import a bottle a few years ago, must have got lucky, it had actually leaked a bit inside its packaging!!

It's not bad stuff if used carefully, but it will make the skin on your fingers peel if you let it get in contact! That didn't worry me though.

dtpapa - 2016-08-25 21:00:00
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So out of 20 one dollar coins and 15 two dollar coins, I came up with 7 of the former and two of the latter that had something in the way of an error or flaw. A couple were quite minor die cracks or cuddy numbers, but I found:

2002 one dollar with substantial cud in initial "2"
2004 one dollar with a large wart under her lower lip
2010 one dollar with a good-sized goiter and minor crack from bottom of effigy to rim

1998 two dollar with 90 degree die rotation

Photos to follow. Maybe.

echoriath - 2016-08-27 22:31:00
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echoriath wrote:

So out of 20 one dollar coins and 15 two dollar coins, I came up with 7 of the former and two of the latter that had something in the way of an error or flaw. A couple were quite minor die cracks or cuddy numbers, but I found:

2002 one dollar with substantial cud in initial "2"
2004 one dollar with a large wart under her lower lip
2010 one dollar with a good-sized goiter and minor crack from bottom of effigy to rim

1998 two dollar with 90 degree die rotation

Photos to follow. Maybe.

Dont forget to check the 2002 coins for different size milling. Must re do a photo of that soon. Funny looking for errors I go through a huge number of coins (you would think I am even more nuts if you knew how many lol) but then sitting down to file the common ones or if I should keep them is not so much fun.

1998 rotation is a new one on me. Still not sure the best way to photograph rotation varieties without putting in a holder of some sort. some of the later 5 cent coins had some good rotations

mudeki - 2016-08-27 23:55:00
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Yes, I have put the 98 in a cardboard flip, which will show it well enough.Sadly, the coin shows most of two decades worth of wear. I almost did not catch it, because I was not looking at rotation as such. On the other hand, I seem to have gotten in the habit of flipping left to right them in my hand, whereas US coins I flip from top to bottom.

I will check the 2002s.

I seem to recall something about you requiring a wheelbarrow to shift some of the coins you go through. I like to think that's just commitment, but maybe the line between that and being nuts is a fine one.

echoriath - 2016-08-28 07:39:00
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echoriath wrote:

I seem to recall something about you requiring a wheelbarrow to shift some of the coins you go through. I like to think that's just commitment, but maybe the line between that and being nuts is a fine one.

I cant seem to find the wheelbarrow photos but that was to mess with a builder who did some renovations for me a few years ago. He was giving me a hard time for being a coin collector so I paid (well tried to) in $1 coins lol. I had a contact at a security company that was nice enough (for a large fee) order me in 15k of UNC mint bag coins sadly none of them had any good errors so I have not been keen to try again

https://trademe.tmcdn.co.nz/photoserver/full/507915477.jpg

mudeki - 2016-08-28 09:12:00
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Talk about using small change with a vengeance. ....

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=EH2E-AUi7Eo

Edited by echoriath at 10:49 am, Sun 28 Aug

echoriath - 2016-08-28 10:48:00
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A few years ago I inherited an old, George 3rd, secretaire book case, which has been in my family for generations. I've known it all my life, nearly 70 years! In one of the drawers is a box of coins, some very old, silver groats etc, large 1 penny wagon wheels from 1780's. There is one Japanese Ten-Po Tsu-Ho, oblong, with a square hole in the centre, I have done a bit of research which is very interesting, apparently they were cast between 1830 and 1870. This one I know is genuine as my Gt Grandfather oversaw the building of one of the first steam ships in his fathers ship builders yard, the SS Cyphrenes, He took his young wife on their honeymoon, round the world, they spent some time in Japan in the 1860's, I have a photo of them, taken in Japan, I can only assume that this coin was from that trip, they arrived back in Scotland, my Gt Grandmother pregnant with my Grandmother, he left her at home in Aberdeen and sailed round the world again and sadly on their return home, in the Bay of Biscay, a notoriously rough sea, a rope washed off the deck and rapper itself round the propeller shaft, he took it upon himself to dive down and remove the rope, he was never seen again! They proceeded on to Plymouth, minus their Captain. My Gt Grandmother, aged 19 and heavily pregnant, arrived in Plymouth to meet the ship and her husband only to be told he was lost at sea, it must have been devastating for her. She never married again and died in 1924. So I still have the Japanese coins, a reminder of this rather sad story. The ship building firm, Stephens, moved to much bigger yards in Dundee then to even bigger yards on the River Clyde and became well known as Stephens of Linthouse, one of the builders of some very well known ships and warships in the 1900's, they closed in 1954 as they couldn't compete with the Japanese prices for shipbuilding which closed many of the well known British ship builders, this brings me back to the Ten-Po Tsu-Ho, it has provenance but I'm not really into coin collecting, would I part with it? I'm not sure, please, somebody advise me.

kim101247 - 2016-08-28 11:33:00
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kim101247 wrote:

this brings me back to the Ten-Po Tsu-Ho, it has provenance but I'm not really into coin collecting, would I part with it? I'm not sure, please, somebody advise me.

The Tempo Tsuho coins don't have a lot of monetary value so you wouldn't be missing out on a fortune by holding onto it as a souvenir.

translateltd - 2016-08-28 15:37:00
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translateltd wrote:

The Tempo Tsuho coins don't have a lot of monetary value so you wouldn't be missing out on a fortune by holding onto it as a souvenir.

Thank you, it has huge sentimental value to me, it will carry on as a family heirloom.

kim101247 - 2016-08-28 19:56:00
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Just a question for sellers on TM. Would offering to accept payment by Credit Card generate more sales? I've been thinking about this as I note many other sellers do. It certainly has advantages for the buyer with less hassle in arranging payment but the extra 1.95% charge for the seller is a disadvantage for the seller. I'd be interested in hearing other's views.
raydob

taidhg - 2016-09-01 08:40:00
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Take it! So much easier for both sides of the deal, and really what is 1.95% - it's only 2 cents in each dollar. Okay I suppose it does mount up a tiny bit but if you are worried about it just add another $ on your asking price

Cheers Alan

kiwialan - 2016-09-01 09:26:00
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jym - 2016-09-01 22:20:00
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2010 Goiter neck dollar:
https://trademe.tmcdn.co.nz/photoserver/full/509179663.jpg

1998 90 degree die rotation two dollar:
https://trademe.tmcdn.co.nz/photoserver/full/509179513.jpg
https://trademe.tmcdn.co.nz/photoserver/full/509179577.jpg

echoriath - 2016-09-02 00:26:00
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I've never really paid that much attention to how people pay, so I can't really say if allowing CC payments generates more sales. I held off on credit card payments for some time initially, but eventually it occurred to me that selling things and getting paid by whatever means was better than not selling things and not getting paid. I don't like giving money to credit card companies, but they will always get their pound of flesh by hook or by crook, and it's generally the latter.

echoriath - 2016-09-02 00:29:00
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taidhg wrote:

Just a question for sellers on TM. Would offering to accept payment by Credit Card generate more sales? I've been thinking about this as I note many other sellers do. It certainly has advantages for the buyer with less hassle in arranging payment but the extra 1.95% charge for the seller is a disadvantage for the seller. I'd be interested in hearing other's views.
raydob

I prefer if people pay by credit card as it makes it a lot easier to match up payments. As long as you keep in mind you get charged the paynow fees on the postage amount and that you may have to refund extra postage paid via the refund section when people pay using paynow. While the extra 2% is a pain it could amount to extra sales to cover it.

Also it is a no-brainer to pay by credit card if a seller offers that option as you get your cashback or whatever rewards points / interest free from your card issuer. If 2 sellers had the same item at the same price I would choose the one with paynow just to get my $1 back for every $75 I spend it may not sound like much but it pays a bit of the postage lol

mudeki - 2016-09-04 16:10:00
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echoriath wrote:

2010 Goiter neck dollar:
https://trademe.tmcdn.co.nz/photoserver/full/509179663.jpg

1998 90 degree die rotation two dollar:
https://trademe.tmcdn.co.nz/photoserver/full/509179513.jpg
https://trademe.tmcdn.co.nz/photoserver/full/509179577.jpg[/
quote]

Nice Goiter type 1 and love the rotational error $2 coin

mudeki - 2016-09-04 16:10:00
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Gasp!
https://www.bidbud.co.nz/1150035140

translateltd - 2016-09-05 20:11:00
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translateltd wrote:

Gasp!
https://www.bidbud.co.nz/1150035140

Haha wow from a $1 start. and when you think they are listed with a $15 buy now by a Dealer that would have been a better option. Another one sold recently for $19 wish I did not sell all mine to a dealer now lol

Edited by mudeki at 10:03 pm, Mon 5 Sep

mudeki - 2016-09-05 21:51:00
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mudeki wrote:

Haha wow from a $1 start. and when you think they are listed with a $15 buy now by a Dealer that would have been a better option. Another one sold recently for $19 wish I did not sell all mine to a dealer now lol

I've seen them sell for as little as $1.50, but $5 - $15 seems the more normal range. Just depends who's looking and where.

translateltd - 2016-09-06 06:56:00
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Anyone have a list of the Errors on New Zealand Two Dollars coins?

I know about the throat one.
And the pimple on the nose.
What else is there?

brett21 - 2016-09-06 17:24:00
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jym - 2016-09-06 19:00:00
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brett21 wrote:

Anyone have a list of the Errors on New Zealand Two Dollars coins?

I know about the throat one.
And the pimple on the nose.
What else is there?

jym's link did not work for me. It might need the next bits to get to the main site, but this will take you straight to the two dollar page:

http://www.coinerrors.co.nz/wordpress/new-zealand-decimal/tw
o-dollar/

echoriath - 2016-09-06 20:07:00
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