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Welcome to the Coin Club. We are an assortment of newbies and oldbies, amateurs and experts with questions and answers for oldbies and newbies, amateurs and experts in coin collecting, also known as numismatics. Whether you are just getting started, have been collecting for years or have simply found some old coins about the place that you’d like to sell, this is the place to ask your questions.

No one has all the answers, and you may get five differing answers to the same question, yet each may be right in a manner of speaking, especially if opinions are involved. Opinions often vary. If you receive no answer to your query within 48 hours, please ask again.

echoriath - 2016-03-03 07:22:00
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miffycat1 wrote:

How do you find out which coins & notes are valuable ?

Here's a handy site for US coins:
http://www.pcgs.com/prices/

Here's one for UK coins:
http://www.coins-of-the-uk.co.uk/values/

Here's a nice all-rounder:
https://www.ngccoin.com/price-guide/world/

Sorry, I am not as much help on notes.

Edited by echoriath at 7:24 am, Thu 3 Mar

echoriath - 2016-03-03 07:22:00
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here's some comedy gold
1043020071

Stunning???
Unc???

the ebay seller this was bought from only called it AU, so you can't use that as an excuse!!!

http://www.ebay.com/itm/BETTER-DATE-1940-NEW-ZEALAND-FLORIN-
IN-AU-CONDITION-500-SILVER-/291680268543?hash=item43e97fb0ff
%3Ag%3AlsMAAOSwf-VWXg8Z&nma=true&si=N3S04%252FeGYO7E
o%252Bj4B%252BiGRTioER0%253D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc&am
p;_trksid=p2047675.l2557

dtpapa - 2016-03-03 15:45:00
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Comedy Gold?
How about this..
http://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/Listing.aspx?id=1040442498
It ain't gold and ........

graemer1 - 2016-03-03 16:32:00
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I spotted an "NZ Commemerative Silver Sovereign" in my trawls earlier - at least the "NZ" part was right.

translateltd - 2016-03-03 19:44:00
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oldecurb - 2016-03-03 23:00:00
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oldecurb wrote:

Good mark up!!!! You could make a good living if it sells at what he is asking

Sure would buy over graded and I suspect polished coins cheap then sell them to new collectors that don't know the difference. All it does is discourage new collectors when they find out they made a costly mistake

mudeki - 2016-03-04 08:01:00
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Would be nice if the seller would post a photo of the "mint" one that's presumably being auctioned: 1044607458

translateltd - 2016-03-04 10:41:00
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translateltd wrote:

Would be nice if the seller would post a photo of the "mint" one that's presumably being auctioned: 1044607458


Not Mint but not overpriced either

lester36 - 2016-03-04 17:42:00
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I'm sure we've all made costly mistakes, some more than others no doubt! It's really the only way to learn.

Speaking of good mark ups, here's when a couple of ebay price gougers were sparring with each other, over a 1996 Queen's 70th birthday special, the one which included the note showing off her toothy grin!

1019025855

A pretty decent price in the end you might think. But ...head on over to that other place, and catch yourself a bargain!

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1996-5-Proof-Coin-20-ER-Prefix-Note-
70th-Birthday-Very-Rare-/281952598232?hash=item41a5af38d8:g:
IgoAAOSwKtlWsCyy

you will still have change left over from a cool grand to get yourself a celebratory quality cup of coffee.

If I paid those sorts of inflated prices for my numismatic curios, I'd very quickly need to change my moniker to oceanic skint!!

dtpapa - 2016-03-04 19:03:00
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rob10701 - 2016-03-04 21:04:00
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theram1 - 2016-03-04 21:55:00
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rob10701 - 2016-03-05 00:48:00
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rob10701 wrote:

theram1
Thank you for the suggestion, unfortunately the Catalogs will only fit in the larger bags, but I'll keep it in mind if all else fails.

I just fold thick cardboard around them to form a tight box and post them like that. If it doesn't stick out too far beyond the actual dimensions of the book the price isn't horrendous - I'd suggest wrapping one and taking it to the PO just to price up. The last old ones I had I just set a "postage included" price for, and was prepared to swallow whatever the cost was.

translateltd - 2016-03-05 16:11:00
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With regards to liability if something goes missing, books about coins (or any other subject) should be fine. Sending actual coins is another thing altogether.

echoriath - 2016-03-06 09:35:00
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translateltd wrote:

Hi Martin, did you attend Mowbrays auction Yesterday?

gammoner - 2016-03-06 13:48:00
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Auction was Friday and the Fair on Saturday. Was a good few days in wellington.

mudeki - 2016-03-06 14:22:00
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gammoner wrote:

Hi Martin, did you attend Mowbrays auction Yesterday?

First time in about 14 years I didn't take a day off work to attend. I did manage to get to the Wn fair for a couple of hours on Sat though, but still didn't get to see all the dealers present :-(

translateltd - 2016-03-06 16:25:00
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What did the average grade Gold Full Sovs sell for (and then there is the buyers premium on top)
Thanks for any info.

gammoner - 2016-03-06 17:28:00
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gammoner wrote:

What did the average grade Gold Full Sovs sell for (and then there is the buyers premium on top)
Thanks for any info.

Peter won most at 420 excluding buyers premium.

The top bid was bought by the Resolution Medal... It sold to a New Zealand Museum at over $16,000.

Most of the rare/interesting stuff bought good prices. There were some good deals on junk silver & modern NZ coins.

Edited by numismatist at 6:08 pm, Sun 6 Mar

numismatist - 2016-03-06 18:04:00
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rob10701 - 2016-03-06 19:29:00
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rob10701 - 2016-03-06 19:44:00
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numismatist wrote:

Peter won most at 420 excluding buyers premium.

The top bid was bought by the Resolution Medal... It sold to a New Zealand Museum at over $16,000.

Most of the rare/interesting stuff bought good prices. There were some good deals on junk silver & modern NZ coins.

Thanks for update and info, much appreciated .Thanks

gammoner - 2016-03-06 19:55:00
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rob10701 wrote:

Yes, that's what I'm trying to figure out.
I've got a half sovereign up, and within the first 24 hours, it went over $200, I'd hate to think it gets lost in the post, I'm trying to figure out the safest way with a courier company, and if they are liable once I hand it over.
I've put signature and tracked.
I can't seem to work out their rules, Lol.
So please help.

Coins are basically not covered and you won't get a payout if they lose them. It's a ridiculous situation that we use couriers because we want valuables transported safely, but their T&Cs say we shouldn't use them to send valuables ...

translateltd - 2016-03-07 10:38:00
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translateltd wrote:

Coins are basically not covered and you won't get a payout if they lose them. It's a ridiculous situation that we use couriers because we want valuables transported safely, but their T&Cs say we shouldn't use them to send valuables ...

And I think there's never been a satisfactory response from NZ Post or similar as to how they can ship mint sets and the like to people who order them on-line for post/courier delivery.

echoriath - 2016-03-07 16:57:00
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echoriath wrote:

And I think there's never been a satisfactory response from NZ Post or similar as to how they can ship mint sets and the like to people who order them on-line for post/courier delivery.

Two different branches of the same entity have a "volume deal" with each other, basically.

translateltd - 2016-03-07 17:08:00
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The volume thing is fair enough, but how can their stuff be guaranteed for shipping but ours is not?

echoriath - 2016-03-07 19:35:00
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Potentially dangerous territory on a public forum, but if you essentially contract services from yourself, are you going to tell yourself you haven't got a claim?

translateltd - 2016-03-07 20:11:00
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translateltd wrote:

Potentiall-
y dangerous territory on a public forum.....

I like to live on the edge....

translateltd wrote:

.....but if you essentially contract services from yourself, are you going to tell yourself you haven't got a claim?

True, but it sounds a lot like two different sets of rules for the same basic thing.

Edited by echoriath at 2:31 pm, Tue 8 Mar

echoriath - 2016-03-08 14:30:00
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Good info from another thread on fake Silver Eagles:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=595&v=hJXyq9
uQwck

Edited by echoriath at 2:35 pm, Tue 8 Mar

echoriath - 2016-03-08 14:35:00
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echoriath wrote:


True, but it sounds a lot like two different sets of rules for the same basic thing.

Yup. They can do it, we can't - not with any cover or legality, anyway.

translateltd - 2016-03-08 15:03:00
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http://www.trademe.co.nz/Community/MessageBoard/Messages.asp
x?id=1612910&topic=16&#p33074667

This may affect you.

bjubes - 2016-03-10 13:11:00
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http://www.trademe.co.nz/Community/MessageBoard/Messages.asp
x?id=1619462&topic=16

This may affect you.

mistermoe - 2016-03-13 14:20:00
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lol, I just discovered I'm on silvergoldbulli's blacklist!! The precious tosser must have taken offence at something I wrote on this forum, because I've had no previous contact with him at all.

dtpapa - 2016-03-14 20:35:00
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hey Jas, I see that 1934 1/2Cr got bid way up by a couple of daft twats!!

but all is not lost, I have this sneaking suspicion we'll see it here again on trademe, but at a much higher price. I guesstimate $500. And some dopey bugger will probably buy it too!!

dtpapa - 2016-03-14 20:45:00
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noble auction description for florin mentions "weakness on kiwi's leg". Anyone tell me what that means?

dtpapa - 2016-03-14 20:46:00
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dtpapa wrote:

noble auction description for florin mentions "weakness on kiwi's leg". Anyone tell me what that means?

a weak strike or worn die so not all the detail showing. I gave up looking after lot 431 was graded UNC but it is in a slab so god knows how that coin gets MS63.

And yes I am sure that coin reappears again and whats the bet it does not have a mention of it being cleaned.

mudeki - 2016-03-14 21:25:00
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pcgs are regarded as the most sought after third party grader, so it must be about right. Noble should really give the cert number so we can look it up on the pcgs site. Sometimes they have good photos of graded coins. It does have a few scratches across the Kiwi, but I can't see any obvious wear. It might be over graded, from say MS62. If you look at some of the photos from Mowbray's auctions, they're often no better. 250 is quite high for an estimate, once you take into account the other fees. You can get an MS63 off ebay for < 200NZD.

Edited by dtpapa at 9:44 pm, Mon 14 Mar

dtpapa - 2016-03-14 21:44:00
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old grey tone???

dtpapa - 2016-03-16 07:46:00
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1052232157

wouldn't call it perfect(or absolutely stunning, lol!!!), although compared to some of the other crap they're trying to pass off as BU, it's pretty good I suppose!!

Edited by dtpapa at 7:49 am, Thu 17 Mar

dtpapa - 2016-03-17 07:47:00
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Hmmm. So what do you do when you make a mistake with a "Buy Now" price out by, well about $21,000.00?
http://www.trademe.co.nz/a.asp?id=1047968874
41 Sovs for $21.70?
Ouch.
it's an obvious mistake, and I guess subject to the Contractual Mistakes Act 1977, so bad luck for the purchaser?

graemer1 - 2016-03-17 08:23:00
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a bit odd. Was it a buy now? 53 had it on their watchlist, but none thought to buy it, or at least ask the seller if it was legit?

dtpapa - 2016-03-17 08:56:00
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can you buy your own items?

perhaps seller wanted to withdraw it, and avoid fees (not sure what they are so this theory could be wrong), but could have lowered price and done a quick buy now?

dtpapa - 2016-03-17 09:03:00
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NZ cupro nickel coins,

green spot, what to do (if anything)?

would a good ultrasonic cleaning lighten the spots?

Edited by dtpapa at 10:06 am, Thu 17 Mar

dtpapa - 2016-03-17 10:04:00
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dtpapa the auction closed without selling. The buy now price was (from memory) $21,750.00. The lost was offered for sale after auction closed for $21.75, an obvious typo by seller.

graemer1 - 2016-03-17 10:12:00
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so it was offered to those 53 watchers for $21.75!!

When another miserable ratbag buyer beats me to a fixed price offer I usually seethe for days!! I wonder how those who missed out feel?

But I'm sure in this case the buyer probably just bought it to save the seller from potential bother, and would have no intention of holding the seller to the deal. I'd have probably done so too, and then messaged the seller to inform them of the mistake.

Edited by dtpapa at 10:24 am, Thu 17 Mar

dtpapa - 2016-03-17 10:23:00
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dtpapa wrote:

NZ cupro nickel coins,

green spot, what to do (if anything)?

would a good ultrasonic cleaning lighten the spots?

And of course that isn't cleaning, is it?

wasgonna - 2016-03-17 11:26:00
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if you can't tell, then it hasn't been cleaned!!!

dtpapa - 2016-03-17 11:30:00
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dtpapa wrote:

if you can't tell, then it hasn't been cleaned!!!


Hi I read you going on about cleaned coins, now you say this, seems to say something about yourself. Cleaned coin is a cleaned coin or are you saying if you do it it ok?

35 - 2016-03-17 16:12:00
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I don't clean coins for profit. That's the point. My reasons are aesthetic. If you have an ugly coin that can be improved by cleaning then that is fair enough. Once cleaned a coin can then be carefully toned. There are many ways to do this. Fast way is to do it chemically, the slower method is to store it in conditions that encourage toning. I would of course not attempt to make a valuable coin more valuable. But coins of low value, either because they are not rare, or because they might not be pleasant to look at, can be treated in this fashion. There is in fact an art to it, in turning a coin with a less than pleasing appearance into one that is much nicer, so that you can put in your album.

dtpapa - 2016-03-17 16:43:00
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