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Welcome to the Coin Club. We are an assortment of newbies and oldbies, amateurs and experts with questions and answers for oldbies and newbies, amateurs and experts in coin collecting, also known as numismatics. Whether you are just getting started, have been collecting for years or have simply found some old coins about the place that you’d like to sell, this is the place to ask your questions.

No one has all the answers, and you may get five differing answers to the same question, yet each may be right in a manner of speaking, especially if opinions are involved. Opinions often vary. If you receive no answer to your query within 48 hours, please ask again.

echoriath - 2016-01-04 20:07:00
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take a look at this lovely rainbow toned 1972 Canadian dollar,

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1972-Canada-Specimen-Dollar-Silver-G
em-Iridescent-rainbow-Tone-8-/371519501593?_trksid=p2047675.
l2557&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&nma=true&si=
N3S04%252FeGYO7Eo%252Bj4B%252BiGRTioER0%253D&orig_cvip=t
rue&rt=nc

in particular, the Queen side of the coin, around the edges (lower right hand side is most noticeable) there seems to be some sort of debris, or particles, present on the surface, giving a sort of 'lumpy' paint like appearance. Anyone have any idea as to what it may be?

dtpapa - 2016-01-05 21:50:00
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oldecurb - 2016-01-08 17:44:00
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Well, there's the Cook Island Dollar with the Tiki with his manhood hanging down. I always advertise them as the coin with three heads. That's the best I got. Nothing exactly erotic about it, though.

http://www.coins-and-banknotes.com.au/catalog/index.php?main
_page=product_info&products_id=1937

When the Standing Liberty Quarter was released it caused a kerfuffle because her right breast was exposed. You know how uptight Yanks are. So they re-tooled the dies to make her chain male cover both breasts.

echoriath - 2016-01-08 22:45:00
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http://www.kittlecoins.com/2621588012.htm

$350 usa dollars for the 1967 2 cent error coin with Bahamas islands instead of New Zealand.

Does that sound about right?

The website doesnt look too professional though.

brett21 - 2016-01-08 23:01:00
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oldecurb - 2016-01-08 23:29:00
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oldecurb wrote:

Catalogue value NZ$80 in brilliant uncirculated. Pity that one has the gash on the Queens cheek. I'd say NZ$60 max = US$40 so if they sell for what they are asking they will be doing Ok!

wow, I thought it would be worth a bit more than $80 uncirculated. Thought it was one of those very very rare holy grail type coins.

brett21 - 2016-01-09 10:15:00
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brett21 wrote:

wow, I thought it would be worth a bit more than $80 uncirculated. Thought it was one of those very very rare holy grail type coins.

They went for some quite substantial prices when first discovered (in today's dollar terms, anyway), but settled fairly soon after that when it was realised there were quite a few around. Estimates vary, but there could have been as many as 100,000 made. No-one knows exactly, however, or how many are left today. Still a cool error, and it's quite good for collectors that they're affordable :-)

translateltd - 2016-01-09 15:02:00
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And MS65 is preposterous with such an obvious scratch.

translateltd - 2016-01-10 10:19:00
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it's probably only obvious in the magnified image, and I suspect would be close to invisible to the naked eye. Apart from that scratch, the coin seems to be otherwise blemish free. While MS65 is a high grade, it's not really that high a grade. A coin can have a number of faults and still be graded MS65. Having said that, it is over priced. I've bought a number of these coins on trademe for 50-60 dollars, and they were just as nice as the MS65. Many from antiqueseller (what's happened to that dude, he was a good seller?)

dtpapa - 2016-01-10 10:55:00
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oldecurb wrote:

Funny how sometimes days and days go without anyone posting anything. Maybe its the time of the year? Maybe nothing has happened? Maybe it needs something different to start it off.

After a funny little joke by Ian on the RNSNZ Facebook page it got me thinking.... has there been erotica portrayed on coinage? Probably more likely in olden times than our pc age. My friend Mr Google told me there were old Roman & Greek brothel tokens (mainly reproductions for sale) but nothing much since. Anyway just a topic rather than saying "bump"


The Cook Island $3 note has Ina and the shark. Ina is sans clothing. A readily available note. There are numerous other banknotes featuring partly clothed people.

nznotes - 2016-01-10 16:01:00
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Hi everyone..I admit I know absolutely nothing about these and have tried unsuccessfully trawling the internet. I was wanting some help please...I have a souvenir set of coins based on the old pound etc system from the last minting for the NZ Government (minted in 1965) but have got no idea of their value can anyone help at all.. thanks in advance :-)

nigshaz - 2016-01-10 20:30:00
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nigshaz wrote:

Hi everyone..I admit I know absolutely nothing about these and have tried unsuccessfully trawling the internet. I was wanting some help please...I have a souvenir set of coins based on the old pound etc system from the last minting for the NZ Government (minted in 1965) but have got no idea of their value can anyone help at all.. thanks in advance :-)

Like these?

http://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/SearchResults.aspx?searchStr
ing=1965+set&type=Search&searchType=4353&general
Search_keypresses=8&generalSearch_suggested=0&genera
lSearch_suggestedCategory=

mudeki - 2016-01-10 21:26:00
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Bingo - many thanks for your help, it's all in the way you search...

nigshaz - 2016-01-10 21:42:00
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oldecurb - 2016-01-10 23:23:00
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oldecurb wrote:

A while ago I picked up a little medallion with "Please don't kiss me" on the front and the reverse is plain apart from some tiny numbers. I just got it because it tickled my fancy at the time.

Mr Google has let me down with this one. Can anyone help with some background info

Can you post pics pse? If you can enlarge the numbers that might help too, you never know.

translateltd - 2016-01-11 07:41:00
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Hey guys... I have a couple of questions. I picked up a large number of sixpences (NZ) over the weekend and I am just going through some of them now and looking at my catalogue I am a little confused. In the catalogue it says there were in 1956 2,000,000 produced and it states they have no shoulder strap. in that 2,000,000 would there have been some that did have a shoulder strap? Also in 1957 thre are 2 numbers produced of 2,400,000 and 200,000 (what is the variant of 200,000 is this also no shoulder strap or something else?)

Thanks

cashintheattic - 2016-01-11 10:55:00
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Also would you class these (they are the top coins in the photos) to be broken wings?

https://trademe.tmcdn.co.nz/photoserver/full/439713765.jpg
https://trademe.tmcdn.co.nz/photoserver/full/439713796.jpg

Thanks

cashintheattic - 2016-01-11 11:48:00
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cashintheattic wrote:

Hey guys... I have a couple of questions. I picked up a large number of sixpences (NZ) over the weekend and I am just going through some of them now and looking at my catalogue I am a little confused. In the catalogue it says there were in 1956 2,000,000 produced and it states they have no shoulder strap. in that 2,000,000 would there have been some that did have a shoulder strap? Also in 1957 thre are 2 numbers produced of 2,400,000 and 200,000 (what is the variant of 200,000 is this also no shoulder strap or something else?)

Thanks

Which catalogue are you looking at? The 2015 (latest) John Bertrand/Premier lists the 2 million 1956 6ds correctly as "with strap" and splits the 1957s between the majority "with strap" (most of the 2.4 million) and the approx. 200,000 "without strap" varieties.

There are no strapless 1956 6ds.

translateltd - 2016-01-11 13:43:00
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cashintheattic wrote:

Also would you class these (they are the top coins in the photos) to be broken wings?

https://trademe.tmcdn.co.nz/photoserver/full/439713765.jpg
https://trademe.tmcdn.co.nz/photoserver/full/439713796.jpg

Thanks

I'm having trouble focusing on the photos unfortunately so can't be sure. The updated version of the "varieties" insert in the forthcoming 2016 Bertrand will have clearer pictures of the Type I and Type II broken wings compared to a "normal" one, which may help.

translateltd - 2016-01-11 13:47:00
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Ive got the 2014 Bertrand Catalogue and it states 1956 sixpence 2,000,000 NSS* which was confusing me. Let me see if I can get a better picture of the 2 that I think are broken wings

translateltd wrote:

Which catalogue are you looking at? The 2015 (latest) John Bertrand/Premier lists the 2 million 1956 6ds correctly as "with strap" and splits the 1957s between the majority "with strap" (most of the 2.4 million) and the approx. 200,000 "without strap" varieties.

There are no strapless 1956 6ds.

cashintheattic - 2016-01-11 14:16:00
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cashintheattic wrote:

Ive got the 2014 Bertrand Catalogue and it states 1956 sixpence 2,000,000 NSS* which was confusing me.

Just checked and yes, it was a typo - the text NSS* should have been two lines lower down. It was fixed in the next edition.

translateltd - 2016-01-11 14:21:00
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Hopefully these are better pics. They don't look like the other 1965 sixpences I have. Their wings look different.

https://trademe.tmcdn.co.nz/photoserver/full/439761888.jpg
https://trademe.tmcdn.co.nz/photoserver/full/439762295.jpg

cashintheattic - 2016-01-11 14:23:00
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Thanks for your help Translateltd. I was a little confused lol.. All good now. Hoping that they are both a broken wing variety

cashintheattic - 2016-01-11 14:27:00
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cashintheattic wrote:

Hopefull-
y these are better pics. They don't look like the other 1965 sixpences I have. Their wings look different.

https://trademe.tmcdn.co.nz/photoserver/full/439761888.jpg
https://trademe.tmcdn.co.nz/photoserver/full/439762295.jpg[/
quote]

Yes, looks like the "intermediate" type I broken wing - type II has a fuller flat spot, about twice the area of type I, as I understand it.

translateltd - 2016-01-11 15:28:00
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cashintheattic wrote:

Hopefull-
y these are better pics. They don't look like the other 1965 sixpences I have. Their wings look different.

https://trademe.tmcdn.co.nz/photoserver/full/439761888.jpg
https://trademe.tmcdn.co.nz/photoserver/full/439762295.jpg[/
quote]

The last one looks to be in good nick. In my experience the type1 are the harder to find so good spotting.

Also listed at the bottom of this page
http://www.coinerrors.co.nz/wordpress/new-zealand-pre-decima
l/sixpence/

mudeki - 2016-01-11 19:43:00
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mudeki wrote:

Also listed at the bottom of this page
http://www.coinerrors.co.nz/wordpress/new-zealand-pre-decima
l/sixpence/

I hope I have said so before, but that is a great site!

echoriath - 2016-01-11 22:11:00
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oldecurb - 2016-01-11 22:47:00
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echoriath wrote:

I hope I have said so before, but that is a great site!

Thanks Echoriath if only I had more time to work on it

mudeki - 2016-01-12 00:04:00
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oldecurb wrote:

Please don't kiss me coin photos
https://trademe.tmcdn.co.nz/photoserver/full/439907111.jpg
https://trademe.tmcdn.co.nz/photoserver/full/439906386.jpg

24mm dia x 1mm thick
Numbers are: RB 758656 (the B is indistinct)
Words are: S.J.L & Co
Symbols are:Anchor, lion & letter F

Can anyone help with the history please

Sorry I cant help but looks like a nice fun item

mudeki - 2016-01-12 00:05:00
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oldecurb wrote:

Please don't kiss me coin photos
https://trademe.tmcdn.co.nz/photoserver/full/439907111.jpg
https://trademe.tmcdn.co.nz/photoserver/full/439906386.jpg

24mm dia x 1mm thick
Numbers are: RB 758656 (the B is indistinct)
Words are: S.J.L & Co
Symbols are:Anchor, lion & letter F

Can anyone help with the history please

Maker appears to be S.J. Levi and company in Birmingham - see the enlargement of the S.J.L & Co line on this item for comparison:http://www.ebay.com-
/itm/S-J-L-Co-SILVER-PLATED-EP-
NS-SERVING-DISH-TUREEN-COVER-1-
900-1935-/161597882406 (try http://tinyurl.com/SJL-mark if that long URL breaks up)

Confirmed here: http://www.925-1000.com/dlBirmingham6.html#M

The number RD 758656 will be a registered design number - not sure how to track that at this stage but there must be records in the UK. (The abbreviation has a small raised D with a line/dot under it - it's not a worn B)

And the date letter shows it was made in the 1930-31 year (letters changed in July, apparently):

http://www.silvermakersmarks.co.uk/Dates/Birmingham.html

Are the letters raised, or just inked/enamelled, out of curiosity? It could be a standard blank medal made by Levis that could then be personalised.

Edited by translateltd at 7:47 am, Tue 12 Jan

translateltd - 2016-01-12 07:40:00
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oldecurb wrote:

Please don't kiss me coin photos
https://trademe.tmcdn.co.nz/photoserver/full/439907111.jpg
https://trademe.tmcdn.co.nz/photoserver/full/439906386.jpg

24mm dia x 1mm thick
Numbers are: RB 758656 (the B is indistinct)
Words are: S.J.L & Co
Symbols are:Anchor, lion & letter F

Can anyone help with the history please

Try this site. It takes a bit of navigating but you should find each symbol and combination of them and dating. I think the anchor is Birmingham but haven't been here for some time. Good luck

http://www.silvercollection.it/ENGLISHSILVERMARKSXG.html

wasgonna - 2016-01-12 07:44:00
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Disregard my post. Looks like I just got beaten by translateltd.

wasgonna - 2016-01-12 08:46:00
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wasgonna wrote:

Disregard my post. Looks like I just got beaten by translateltd.

Great minds, etc. Nothing to disregard - I'll save that link myself for future reference :-)

translateltd - 2016-01-12 09:17:00
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Does anyone know if there is a definitive list of all the 'medals' produced by Auckland Coin & Bullion?

numismatist - 2016-01-13 11:48:00
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numismatist wrote:

Does anyone know if there is a definitive list of all the 'medals' produced by Auckland Coin & Bullion?

There are ten or so in the 2nd edition of the MacMaster catalogue but they aren't grouped separately.

translateltd - 2016-01-13 12:25:00
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Incredible detail, superb even strike and a very smooth background. Amazing considering it was hammered into existence 1800 years ago. Machine like quality.

http://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/Listing.aspx?id=1015162973

puckles - 2016-01-14 06:59:00
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Do I detect a slight hint of disbelief here.

wasgonna - 2016-01-14 08:24:00
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Compare lot 121 here:
http://www.imperator-coinsandantiquities.com/THESEVERANS.htm
l

Dunno - though the way the bottoms of the I's in COS IIII run together in the local example is a little odd (+ flow marks above the letters, do they indicate anything?)

translateltd - 2016-01-14 10:30:00
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translateltd wrote:

Compare lot 121 here:
http://www.imperator-coinsandantiquities.com/THESEVERANS.htm
l

Dunno - though the way the bottoms of the I's in COS IIII run together in the local example is a little odd (+ flow marks above the letters, do they indicate anything?)

The funny "I's" are repeated in this example.
http://www.wildwinds.com/coins/ric/caracalla/RIC_0238A.1.jpg

A lot of varieties of this issue. Some lyres have strings, others none, and the seat and posture of Apollo differs slightly as well.
If the TM one is genuine, then it is an excellent example and worth the reserve.

puckles - 2016-01-14 13:25:00
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oldecurb - 2016-01-15 12:00:00
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oldecurb wrote:

It amazes me how you can hammer a die crack so exquisitely. They look like die cracks to me

I guess dies held between tongs and walloped with a sledgehammer can crack just as easily as mechanically operated ones.

translateltd - 2016-01-15 12:56:00
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oldecurb wrote:

It amazes me how you can hammer a die crack so exquisitely. They look like die cracks to me

I can see something in front of Apollo. If that is the die crack you are talking about then it has been most exquisitely rendered for a hammered coin.

puckles - 2016-01-17 08:55:00
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Looking at it a slightly different way, the "smooth" faces of the dies back then wouldn't have been as perfectly even as they are meant to be now, so the odd mark is inevitable, even on high-grade, virtually as-struck examples. I'm still not game enough to call on any of them, though, as they're out of my field.

translateltd - 2016-01-17 13:32:00
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Either I missed something here or someone forgot to tick a box.......

http://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/Listing.aspx?id=1013789781

chrisr5 - 2016-01-17 20:58:00
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Yeah, I'd say so.

echoriath - 2016-01-17 22:53:00
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Grading issues solved! Just wait till your average circulated coins reach the age of 125 years and they'll become mint by virtue of their age:
http://www.trademe.co.nz/a.aspx?id=1018003021

translateltd - 2016-01-19 16:37:00
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Hmmm - haven't been on here in years. Good to see it is still going. Question: does anyone have an NZ 2004 10 cent double rimmed coin they want to auction? Be aware that it has recently been discovered that this coin is actually a mule! See the latest copy of the RNSNZ Numismatic Journal. A 2004 $1 obverse die was used instead of a 2004 10 cent obverse die.

gerbilman - 2016-01-21 20:01:00
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gerbilman wrote:

Hmmm - haven't been on here in years. Good to see it is still going. Question: does anyone have an NZ 2004 10 cent double rimmed coin they want to auction? Be aware that it has recently been discovered that this coin is actually a mule! See the latest copy of the RNSNZ Numismatic Journal. A 2004 $1 obverse die was used instead of a 2004 10 cent obverse die.

I think everyone has gone hunting for where they put the bags of old 10 cent coins lol

mudeki - 2016-01-22 12:26:00
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mudeki wrote:

I think everyone has gone hunting for where they put the bags of old 10 cent coins lol

Well, hopefully, somebody will find a mule or two and there will be some trading. I found one bag I had put away and I may start an auction or two. Not the mule but a nice 2004 10 cent error coin.

gerbilman - 2016-01-22 17:31:00
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