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translateltd - 2015-10-31 12:11:00

Thank you for your kind messages and support in regards to my father Don Ion's unexpected passing on Thursday. His funeral will be held on Wednesday 4th November 2015, 12.00pm at Osborne Funeral Home, 197 Old Taupo Road, Rotorua. Dad is currently lying in state at his residence, so all friends are certainly welcome to pay their respects their as well.

loision - 2015-11-01 01:52:00

Hey I hope you all get back on dad donaldo would be most disappointed that nothing is happening. We had an awesome send off for him, and it was much appreciated that Peter and John Eccles especially came to dads funeral, hope Trade Me doesn't mind but here is a link to celebrating dads life, come on get writing, it doesn't have to be about dad, but do start talking about stuff : copy and paste https://youtu.be/seaTUeUlcg0

loision - 2015-11-05 00:35:00

Thanks, Lois - it was good to be able to watch the service from here in UH, and so pleased Peter and John were there in person.
Kind of disconcerting in a way, though - I saw you look up toward the camera right at the end and nearly waved before I remembered the camera was just one-way :-)

translateltd - 2015-11-05 07:07:00

Glad you gave donaldo a proper send-off. I've raised a glass to him.

Here's a nice piece I got a few weeks ago:

https://trademe.tmcdn.co.nz/photoserver/full/423792061.jpg

Ok, It's pretty stuffed from a general wear POV, but it fills a glaring gap in my collection. And the price was right. There's some funny extra bits about the second "8" running to the rim.

echoriath - 2015-11-05 23:54:00

I wonder how most vending machines are finding the new notes, I suspect a few will need a tweak.

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/news/article.cfm?c_id=3&a
mp;objectid=11540881

numismatist - 2015-11-06 09:33:00

Hello Martin How many packets of Dunedin Tramways tokens do you have ? Cheers Peter.

funho1 - 2015-11-07 08:59:00

And just out of interest, were they from Haywards a couple of years ago ? Peter

funho1 - 2015-11-07 08:59:00

translateltd wrote:

I think they lacked the outermost layer. I seem to remember another turning up somewhere but can't think of the specifics right now.

Hi again all. First and most importantly, what a huge loss we have suffered. Condolences to the family. I never met Don in person, but had plenty of dealings with him on line. He will be sorely missed.

And to the copper coloured 20c coin. I got my example back in 2006. Curious about its authenticity I took it to the Reserve Bank for inspection. Through a microscope Don Oliver verified that he could see Nickel through the thin layer of Copper, consistent with the outer layer of Nickel being somehow missed out of the production process.

It seemed unlikely to me that only one such example would have made it out of the mint and into circulation if such an error had happened. And the error is so striking that it would surely be noticed by anyone that handled one. It would be interesting to track the other one down. The great rarity of a pretty vanilla 2006 issue?

metcalfj - 2015-11-07 10:17:00

funho1 wrote:

And just out of interest, were they from Haywards a couple of years ago ? Peter

Hi Peter, no they weren't. Thanks for your interest in these - feel free to bid and we can take it from there :-)

translateltd - 2015-11-07 23:08:00

I saw in the local paper that John Bertrand is [paying good money for old pre 1932 NZ bank notes.

Maybe time to dig around, the oldest one I have found is from the 80's. :-(

brett21 - 2015-11-10 13:41:00

Bump ...

translateltd - 2015-11-13 08:31:00

For those keen on police & military memorabilia, guns, badges, medals WW2 German items, obsolete NZ police gear etc. Militaria & Gun Show (21st and 22nd November Sat 10am - 5pm Sun 10am -4pm) At Nelson Suburban Club & RSA 168 Tahunanui Drive Hosted by NZAHAA. We will have items on show and a couple of stalls as well as the many other collectors locally and from far and wide. With items for Trade, Sales and items for show there will be something for everyone. I understand there is still time to book a display/stall so get in touch with the NZ Antique & Historic Arms Assn Nelson Branch. Displays will include uniforms, Odd military historical items, military vehicles, Firearms, antique and modern and much more.

bjubes - 2015-11-13 21:24:00

A 1967 five cent piece error coin with the tail missing from under the chin, if circulated, how much?

brett21 - 2015-11-14 23:28:00

brett21 wrote:

A 1967 five cent piece error coin with the tail missing from under the chin, if circulated, how much?

Latest Bertrand catalogue says $20, though not sure how many sales there have been recently to judge. That should be a guideline anyway.

translateltd - 2015-11-15 08:04:00

translateltd wrote:

Latest Bertrand catalogue says $20, though not sure how many sales there have been recently to judge. That should be a guideline anyway.

cheers, thanks.

brett21 - 2015-11-15 09:48:00

Does anyone know Which New Zealand company grades coins?

brett21 - 2015-11-16 19:05:00

brett21 wrote:

Does anyone know Which New Zealand company grades coins?

There aren't any official grading services in NZ to my knowledge. Relying on third-party services is a slippery slope in my view - one of the best "do it yourself" guides for predecimal NZ coins is in RL Clarke's 1960s book "Coins of British Oceania" (there were several editions). Worth asking at your library to see if they can source a copy for you.

translateltd - 2015-11-16 22:00:00

Hi I just found this link by accident, I am looking for anyone who can help value a couple of old European coins from my late fathers collection. May look to sell, but mostly just interested. I can give details if anyone can help. Thanks

zedbac - 2015-11-17 07:17:00

zedbac wrote:

Hi I just found this link by accident, I am looking for anyone who can help value a couple of old European coins from my late fathers collection. May look to sell, but mostly just interested. I can give details if anyone can help. Thanks

Hi Nikki,
Post links to a couple of pictures and I'm sure one of us will be happy to help.

translateltd - 2015-11-17 08:15:00

Hong Kong one cent coin 1904 some mint lustre
Listing #: 966330928
It has some mint lustre on it. It has the usual bi lingual inscription on one side and King Edward the Seventh on the other.
Closed: Fri 23 Oct, 5:44 pm Final bid $15.00
.......Then an amazing transformation............or are my eyes deceiving me?
Colonial Hong Kong 1904H Cent Lustrous UNC !
6 people added this to their Watchlist Listing #: 979490763
Christchurch City, Canterbury, NZ
THIS OFFERING? A King Edward VII Colonial Hong Kong 1904H One Cent piece that is Lustrous, UNCIRCULATED iginal RED lustre !
In Straight uncirculated these go out at US$100 and UP in price from there. ALL Hong Kong Colonial coins with ORIGINAL mint lustre continue to rise in price due to the rising fortunes of the Chinese middle classes especially. It is a STRING market and one with GREAT upward price potential!
ALL my scans show coins I sell at TEN times magnification. NGC and PCGS as well as ANACS use 3 times only.
I took scans in differring lights and angles to try to show how NICE this coin is and HONESTLY. The rest is up to you
I got a deal on this coin and offer the buyer a chance to acquire a RARE coin of this type for HALF or LESS than retail overseas.
LOOK at my scans and SEE just HOW NICE this specimen IS...
ONE ONLY and then it is GONE....don't dawdle and DON'T ask for a lower price because THIS is a GREAT offering for an NZ buyer
Best strategy to just Bid your highest price AT THE START using the incremental "AUTO_BID" bid option THEN sit back and relax !
Closes: 1 hr 1 min Tue 17 Nov, 10:42 am
Buy Now $99.50 Start price $49.50

alpha111 - 2015-11-17 09:59:00

it's a good cleaning effort, but even given that, it ain't lustrous or red, that's for sure. So the description is BS.

dtpapa - 2015-11-17 11:15:00

on a similar line, I have twice informed this seller that the coin 981562002 does not meet the definition of BU, but am being ignored, it would seem.

dtpapa - 2015-11-17 11:19:00

alpha111 wrote:

ONE ONLY and then it is GONE....don't dawdle and DON'T ask for a lower price because THIS is a GREAT offering for an NZ buyer
Best strategy to just Bid your highest price AT THE START using the incremental "AUTO_BID" bid option THEN sit back and relax !

I don't even need to look at the listing to know who that seller is!

translateltd - 2015-11-17 11:35:00

hey Martin, you must be getting tired of trying to flog that 1944 Florin? I'll take it off your hands for 250!!

dtpapa - 2015-11-17 11:47:00

dtpapa wrote:

hey Martin, you must be getting tired of trying to flog that 1944 Florin? I'll take it off your hands for 250!!

$251 here

gammoner - 2015-11-17 12:21:00

No effort involved, guys, it's on auto-relist ... but I'll reduce the price a little more in case I can tempt you.

translateltd - 2015-11-17 12:24:00

translateltd wrote:

No effort involved, guys, it's on auto-relist ... but I'll reduce the price a little more in case I can tempt you.

Eyes are halfway open now

gammoner - 2015-11-17 13:05:00

translateltd wrote:

There aren't any official grading services in NZ to my knowledge. Relying on third-party services is a slippery slope in my view - one of the best "do it yourself" guides for predecimal NZ coins is in RL Clarke's 1960s book "Coins of British Oceania" (there were several editions). Worth asking at your library to see if they can source a copy for you.

Cheers!

brett21 - 2015-11-17 13:38:00

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oldecurb - 2015-11-17 22:15:00

Co-incidentally the Ministry of Business, Innovation & Employment is running ads on Trademe for Fraud Awareness Week.

alpha111 - 2015-11-18 11:52:00

alpha111 wrote:

Co-incidentall-
y the Ministry of Business, Innovation & Employment is running ads on Trademe for Fraud Awareness Week.

TM's a good place for them to start, I'm sure ...

translateltd - 2015-11-18 12:51:00

fraud, lies and general BS, price gouging, over grading, cleaning, ...just a typical day in trademe coin sales!

dtpapa - 2015-11-18 21:36:00

And that's just the experts.

wasgonna - 2015-11-19 07:52:00

wasgonna wrote:

And that's just the experts.

The rest are a *real* worry ...

translateltd - 2015-11-19 08:52:00

gammoner wrote:

[quote=transla-
teltd]No effort involved, guys, it's on auto-relist ... but I'll reduce the price a little more in case I can tempt you.

Eyes are halfway open now

Cripes, I just looked at what I paid for it - if it sells for reserve I'll be losing money after TM's fees come off. It's going up again at the next re-list.

translateltd - 2015-11-19 08:58:00

translateltd wrote:

Cripes, I just looked at what I paid for it - if it sells for reserve I'll be losing money after TM's fees come off. It's going up again at the next re-list.

Maybe time for a tax loss this year Martin

gammoner - 2015-11-19 09:51:00

gammoner wrote:

Maybe time for a tax loss this year Martin

More concerned about the real ones!

translateltd - 2015-11-19 10:36:00

Hi,all
Check out the Banknotes section their are some real Awesome PMG notes over priced and also available on (E bay) Cheaper with same serial numbers WOW what a lucky seller to own those?

halfcent - 2015-11-19 11:42:00

halfcent wrote:

Hi,all
Check out the Banknotes section their are some real Awesome PMG notes over priced and also available on (E bay) Cheaper with same serial numbers WOW what a lucky seller to own those?

PMG?

translateltd - 2015-11-19 19:14:00

halfcent wrote:

Hi,all
Check out the Banknotes section their are some real Awesome PMG notes over priced and also available on (E bay) Cheaper with same serial numbers WOW what a lucky seller to own those?

Maybe that is a Wellington dealer and you mean PNG

gammoner - 2015-11-19 19:44:00

PMG = paper money guaranty. http://www.pmgnotes.com/

duanmu - 2015-11-19 21:22:00

Never heard of PMG, but it makes sense. Good to know it's out there.

echoriath - 2015-11-20 00:13:00

Martin, I reckon you need to take another 50 bucks off the start price on account of that pimple on the bridge of KIng George's nose.

dtpapa - 2015-11-20 14:08:00

look at this ebay clown trying to sell a 'basement' graded 1942 florin for a ridiculous price!!

I was thinking about making a 'cheeky' offer, but then saw his photo. Looks like a mean f**ker. He might hunt me down!

http://www.ebay.com/itm/New-Zealand-1942-Florin-Rare-Key-Dat
e-CHBU-Full-Luster-Low-Mintage-150-000-/161883214701?hash=it
em25b0fdd36d:g:dc0AAOxypNtSgA0c

dtpapa - 2015-11-20 14:19:00

A great attribution ~ well the seller says he is a used car dealer.
So he would know how to embellish things.
Charles 2nd 1703 sold gold coin with 9c chain Listing #: 985273837

alpha111 - 2015-11-21 10:16:00

And another but saved by the $1 reserve
"ANCIENT Roman Coin Antonius ? Seated Britannia ??? Listing #: 981289459
I am now reasonably SURE that it IS a Roman Coin PROBABLY the head of some guy called Antonius Ceaser
What seems really WEIRD to me ? (I am a sword collector NOT a numismaticist) is that it appears to have on the flip-side the figure of a seated Britannia ??? as seen on UK Penny 1500 years or-so newer than this coin likely is ??"

Edited by alpha111 at 11:18 am, Sat 21 Nov

alpha111 - 2015-11-21 11:18:00

alpha111 wrote:

And another but saved by the $1 reserve
"I am now reasonably SURE that it IS a Roman Coin PROBABLY the head of some guy called Antonius Ceaser"

I assume dear old Tony is really Diocletian, as far as I can make out from the obverse legends, anyway.

translateltd - 2015-11-21 13:57:00

dtpapa wrote:

Martin, I reckon you need to take another 50 bucks off the start price on account of that pimple on the bridge of KIng George's nose.

Next time I dig it out I'll check it's not foreign matter or some other artefact affecting the image. May just keep it as a nice example of a scarce year.

translateltd - 2015-11-21 14:00:00

translateltd wrote:

I assume dear old Tony is really Diocletian, as far as I can make out from the obverse legends, anyway.

So 286 AD with Roma reverse.

alpha111 - 2015-11-21 14:30:00