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Welcome to the Coin Club. We are an assortment of newbies and oldbies, amateurs and experts with questions and answers for oldbies and newbies, amateurs and experts in coin collecting, also known as numismatics. Whether you are just getting started, have been collecting for years or have simply found some old coins about the place that you’d like to sell, this is the place to ask your questions.

No one has all the answers, and you may get five differing answers to the same question, yet each may be right in a manner of speaking, especially if opinions are involved. Opinions often vary. If you receive no answer to your query within 48 hours, please ask again

chefman1 - 2015-10-01 20:33:00
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chefman1 wrote:

https://trademe.tmcdn.co.nz/photoserver/full
/415778586.jpg

https://trademe.tmcdn.co.nz/photoserver/full/415779069.jpg

Hi All....Alan or Martin...can you please give me a price on theses gold coins for me,i have two of each many thanks...cheers peter

Hi Peter, current prices being paid would range from $500 to $530 each on TM
For a private collector, $465 to $500 range

gammoner - 2015-10-01 21:22:00
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gammoner wrote:

Hi Peter, current prices being paid would range from $500 to $530 each on TM
For a private collector, $465 to $500 range

Hi Alan.....Thankyou very much...cheers Peter

chefman1 - 2015-10-01 21:44:00
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chefman1 wrote:


lol......Hi Chris....me good...how is the family????are you still work at the ?????,see ya soon

Good to hear you're keeping well. All is fine with the family though Arthur is teething. Yep still keeping busy at the hospital.

chrisr5 - 2015-10-02 22:23:00
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Hi all.
Can anyone help me with identifying these medals ,they are for the New Zealand Gladiolus Society.
https://trademe.tmcdn.co.nz/photoserver/full/416073721.jpg
https://trademe.tmcdn.co.nz/photoserver/full/416073689.jpg
Age and rarity.
The first one I would say is silver plate and the second one is copper.
Any information would be gratefully appreciated.

lester36 - 2015-10-03 13:56:00
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Hey guys, can anyone tell me about this and maybe give a rough estimate?

https://trademe.tmcdn.co.nz/photoserver/full/416092728.jpg
https://trademe.tmcdn.co.nz/photoserver/full/416092799.jpg

cashintheattic - 2015-10-03 15:41:00
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moving_again - 2015-10-03 18:53:00
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moving_again wrote:

Dear Coin People, I am cleaning out the antique boxes in the garage and selling for $1. I have a Royal Numismatic Society Decimal Coinage Medal in a box. As I recall these came in silver and bronze? Here'e the dumbest question...mine doesn't look like bronze, it's really shiny, but it is gold coloured. It seems to be heavy like silver, did any come with a gold wash?? Thanks for helping, it's still going out for a dollar, but I want to list it accurately and I know nothing about coins. Cheers, Andy

Looks to be 1 of the 500 x "Bronze Bright" as opposed to the100 x "Bronze Toned" that were struck.

gammoner - 2015-10-03 20:34:00
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moving_again - 2015-10-03 21:56:00
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cashintheattic wrote:

Hey guys, can anyone tell me about this and maybe give a rough estimate?

https://trademe.tmcdn.co.nz/photoserver/full/416092728.jpg
https://trademe.tmcdn.co.nz/photoserver/full/416092799.jpg[/
quote]

See G#43 in the John Bertrand (Premier) catalogue. Probably worth a little less in the absence of the farthing or US cent that would originally have gone in the middle but quite a scarce item as I understand it.

translateltd - 2015-10-04 21:00:00
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Hey Martin, is there any chance you could please scan and email me through the page? I totally understand if you can't... Thanks for your help.. What year Farthing or US Cent would it have in it do you know?

cashintheattic - 2015-10-04 22:19:00
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cashintheattic wrote:

Hey Martin, is there any chance you could please scan and email me through the page? I totally understand if you can't... Thanks for your help.. What year Farthing or US Cent would it have in it do you know?

Not sure about dates - the Premier catalogue page isn't illustrated, just a one-line description. Terry Roker reports an ad showing the issuer being in business in 1919, if that's any guide.

translateltd - 2015-10-04 23:17:00
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Awesome cheers Martin

cashintheattic - 2015-10-05 08:35:00
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donaldo - 2015-10-05 11:47:00
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chefman1 wrote:


Hi All....Alan or Martin...can you please give me a price on theses gold coins for me,i have two of each many thanks...cheers peter

Sorry I missed this - was away from the office for a few days. Not ignoring you, honest! :-)

translateltd - 2015-10-05 15:25:00
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donaldo wrote:


or left in some thermal air for a few days
i have some nice black 2004 5c ,etc also

Yes Don, always know when any gold or silver has come from Rotorua lol.

gammoner - 2015-10-05 16:10:00
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Hi Martin
Can anyone help me with identifying these medals ,they are for the New Zealand Gladiolus Society.
https://trademe.tmcdn.co.nz/photoserver/full/416073721.jpg
https://trademe.tmcdn.co.nz/photoserver/full/416073689.jpg
Age and rarity.
The first one I would say is silver plate and the second one is copper.
Any information would be gratefully appreciated.[/quote]

Do you have any info on these Taa

lester36 - 2015-10-05 21:56:00
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lester36 wrote:

Hi Martin
Can anyone help me with identifying these medals ,they are for the New Zealand Gladiolus Society.
Age and rarity.
The first one I would say is silver plate and the second one is copper.
Any information would be gratefully appreciated.

Do you have any info on these Taa[/quote]

No, unfortunately - I don't have any refs on society prize medals beyond the philatelic ones that are listed in MacMaster. I'd be down to Googling, or trying to contact the Society if it still exists.

translateltd - 2015-10-06 06:36:00
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buy low...
http://www.ebay.com/itm/New-Zealand-1955-QEII-1-shilling-Pre
-Decimal-Coin-Maori-Warrior-/191658551819?hash=item2c9fbd6a0
b&nma=true&si=N3S04%252FeGYO7Eo%252Bj4B%252BiGRTioER
0%253D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l25
57

sell high!
958794135

dtpapa - 2015-10-09 21:47:00
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oldecurb - 2015-10-11 22:12:00
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oldecurb wrote:

But what a bargain in the first place though!! Only $2! Maybe I need to look there to find some cheap AU examples

Original seller probably thought he was doing well by loading on such high postage charges :-)

translateltd - 2015-10-12 07:12:00
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translateltd wrote:

Original seller probably thought he was doing well by loading on such high postage charges :-)

Thought someone else would have noticed and made a comment on recent circulated, cupro nickel NZ pre decimal coin sales. 5 auctions with a total face value of $63.60 went for an amazing $1397.57.
No need to go abroad to buy low and "sell high"

gammoner - 2015-10-12 10:18:00
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The new notes look rather nice i think it is a nice change. Not as bright as I was expecting as they are darker than the old series lol

mudeki - 2015-10-12 13:49:00
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mudeki wrote:

The new notes look rather nice i think it is a nice change. Not as bright as I was expecting as they are darker than the old series lol

I visited a few of the big banks this morning in Auckland and none had any yet :(

numismatist - 2015-10-12 14:15:00
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numismatist wrote:

I visited a few of the big banks this morning in Auckland and none had any yet :(

My branch got them at about lunch time so I went in on my day off to get some. The plan was by some banks that most branches would get a few (probably only 1 bundle of each) delived somtime this week but it depends on when the security companies are able to transport them.

mudeki - 2015-10-12 14:59:00
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I reckon it's pretty rotten really. But then I suppose it ain't any of my business. So I wont say anything. But why pay 250 for a 50 coin, when you could have got the same coin, only much better, for 100 less? Or is there something I don't know about?

http://www.ebay.com/itm/New-Zealand-1955-Shilling-PCGS-MS-63
-CV-UNC-120-BU-220-Extremely-low-mintage-/321867554074?hash=
item4af0cd1d1a&nma=true&si=N3S04%252FeGYO7Eo%252Bj4B
%252BiGRTioER0%253D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc&_trksid
=p2047675.l2557

dtpapa - 2015-10-12 19:42:00
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I would not have a problem with the one on trademe if the grading was even somewhat close but it does not look anything like UNC to me

mudeki - 2015-10-12 20:43:00
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metcalfj wrote:

Hey guys, long time no see. Random question, did a second 2006 20c on a copper coloured planchet ever surface?

Has anyone seen another one of these?

metcalfj - 2015-10-12 21:36:00
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if you have a reserve of 250, then a buyer should be able to reasonably expect that that value is a reasonable price, and the condition of the coin is indeed consistent with that valuation.

dtpapa - 2015-10-12 21:50:00
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metcalfj wrote:

Has anyone seen another one of these?

Nope do you think they coated with to much copper?

Plated steel coins differ from older cupronickel coins which were demonetised in November 2006. During the manufacturing process the steel core is covered with layers of nickel and copper, giving the coin its characteristic colour and surface.

mudeki - 2015-10-12 23:11:00
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mudeki wrote:

Nope do you think they coated with to much copper?

I think they lacked the outermost layer. I seem to remember another turning up somewhere but can't think of the specifics right now.

translateltd - 2015-10-13 07:04:00
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dtpapa wrote:

if you have a reserve of 250, then a buyer should be able to reasonably expect that that value is a reasonable price, and the condition of the coin is indeed consistent with that valuation.


I don't think it works that way personally . If I put a reserve of $250 on a coin and it doesn't sell for ages then the message coming back should be to drop the price to meet the market. If a buyer takes that coin for $250 then they must have thought the price was right for what they were bidding on. It's up to the buyer to do their research , ask the questions and compare values with similar items.

Edited by pottynz at 7:30 am, Tue 13 Oct

pottynz - 2015-10-13 07:28:00
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dtpapa wrote:

I reckon it's pretty rotten really. But then I suppose it ain't any of my business. So I wont say anything. But why pay 250 for a 50 coin, when you could have got the same coin, only much better, for 100 less? Or is there something I don't know about?

http://www.ebay.com/itm/New-Zealand-1955-Shilling-PCGS-MS-63
-CV-UNC-120-BU-220-Extremely-low-mintage-/321867554074?hash=
item4af0cd1d1a&nma=true&si=N3S04%252FeGYO7Eo%252Bj4B
%252BiGRTioER0%253D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc&_trksid
=p2047675.l2557

Why is it rotten?. If the buyer is happy with the coin and the seller is happy with the price then you're right I suppose ... it is none of your business

pottynz - 2015-10-13 07:40:00
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Buyer may be happy enough for now, but once he takes it to be valued, or shows it to someone who knows about such things "You paid how much for that?" or words to that effect!!

Edited by dtpapa at 3:59 pm, Tue 13 Oct

dtpapa - 2015-10-13 15:58:00
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pottynz wrote:


I don't think it works that way personally . If I put a reserve of $250 on a coin and it doesn't sell for ages then the message coming back should be to drop the price to meet the market. If a buyer takes that coin for $250 then they must have thought the price was right for what they were bidding on. It's up to the buyer to do their research , ask the questions and compare values with similar items.

so the seller has no responsibilities at all, that is what you are saying? I'd have to disagree. The customer ought to be respected, at least. And helped, if you want to call yourself any sort of a decent person, let alone a good and noble seller!

Edited by dtpapa at 4:03 pm, Tue 13 Oct

dtpapa - 2015-10-13 16:02:00
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I have old 1 and 2 cent pieces where could i sell these ?

kayzek - 2015-10-13 17:59:00
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dtpapa wrote:

Buyer may be happy enough for now, but once he takes it to be valued, or shows it to someone who knows about such things "You paid how much for that?" or words to that effect!!

It's up to the buyer to educate themselves. If they don't learn then the rule of " a fool and his money" apply. There are so many areas of research open to any buyer these days that if you are going to pay over the top dollars for an item then you are either really lazy or really stupid.

pottynz - 2015-10-13 18:12:00
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dtpapa wrote:

so the seller has no responsibilities at all, that is what you are saying? I'd have to disagree. The customer ought to be respected, at least. And helped, if you want to call yourself any sort of a decent person, let alone a good and noble seller!

The seller has one basic responsibility and that is to describe and display an item as honestly as they can. The buyer is free to question the buyer and if they are not happy with the price / condition / description then they are free to walk away from the deal ... it ain't rocket science mate ...

pottynz - 2015-10-13 18:15:00
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why must the buyer be compelled to question price/condition/description? Are you suggesting the default position should be to consider all sellers to be miserable ratbags, whose sole intent is to shaft unsuspecting buyers?

dtpapa - 2015-10-13 19:05:00
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Well, that would give a measure of self-assurance ?

funho1 - 2015-10-13 19:13:00
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dtpapa wrote:

why must the buyer be compelled to question price/condition/description? Are you suggesting the default position should be to consider all sellers to be miserable ratbags, whose sole intent is to shaft unsuspecting buyers?

The buyer is not compelled at all , they are free to look , research , ask questions and come to their own conclusion that an item is either worth buying or bidding on to an amount they consider its worth OR they are free to walk away from the transaction / auction. Some sellers are miserable ratbags just the same as some buyers are moaning old tossers. I consider both examples to be in the vast minority and the 99% of the transactions I have had on here are very pleasant . As I said , it ain't rocket science

Edited by pottynz at 7:30 pm, Tue 13 Oct

pottynz - 2015-10-13 19:24:00
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A. Thank you for the question. Your suspicions were correct. The coin is not UNC, indeed you'd be pushing your luck to call it AU. As for the price, your inference that it was a little on the high side was right on the mark! Indeed, it is many multiples too high. I hope this answers your question, and don't forget to bid!

Edited by dtpapa at 7:34 pm, Tue 13 Oct

dtpapa - 2015-10-13 19:29:00
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http://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/news/article.cfm?c_id=3&a
mp;objectid=11529039

Your an enterprising entrepreneur Mudeki!

numismatist - 2015-10-14 14:58:00
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numismatist wrote:

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/news/a
rticle.cfm?c_id=3&objectid=11529039

Your an enterprising entrepreneur Mudeki!

And a nice misleading headline to boot - the Herald should have some apologising to do for all the idiotic comments they helped generate.

translateltd - 2015-10-14 15:28:00
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is this really a story?

dtpapa - 2015-10-14 16:54:00
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beats...talking about ebay????

chefman1 - 2015-10-14 17:32:00
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chefman1 wrote:

beats...talkin-
g about ebay????

Hi Peter, see you havn"t made the front page news, only on page 2 with the single $10 Note bids

gammoner - 2015-10-14 17:36:00
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Love the answer to the question on postage especially! Well done Mudeki. And well done for keeping it positive with all the snarky questions and daft ones!

I remember one trader who would be having a melt down claiming sabotage, withdrawing the auction and threatening gang hits all round by now!

chrisr5 - 2015-10-14 17:46:00
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gammoner wrote:

Hi Peter, see you havn"t made the front page news, only on page 2 with the single $10 Note bids

Hi Alan....i cannot fine it...do you have a link for me..please..cheers peter

chefman1 - 2015-10-14 18:00:00
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Just the moment to jump in and snatch the 7k ...

Edited by translateltd at 6:05 pm, Wed 14 Oct

translateltd - 2015-10-14 18:05:00
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