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Welcome to the Coin Club. We are an assortment of newbies and oldbies, amateurs and experts with questions and answers for oldbies and newbies, amateurs and experts in coin collecting, also known as numismatics. Whether you are just getting started, have been collecting for years or have simply found some old coins about the place that you’d like to sell, this is the place to ask your questions.

No one has all the answers, and you may get five differing answers to the same question, yet each may be right in a manner of speaking, especially if opinions are involved. Opinions often vary. If you receive no answer to your query within 48 hours, please ask again.

chefman1 - 2015-07-26 15:26:00
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echoriath wrote:

I'm not sure how to interpret this statement: "This is all the more disappointing because Dr Günter Winands, Deputy of the Commissioner of the Federal Government for Culture and Media, has stated expressively in the mentioned hearing that coins will be regarded separately."

I'm probably going to sign the petition anyway, but given that coins concern me most, I wonder in what manner will they be regarded separately.

I just checked the German version of that statement as it looked like the translation wasn't the clearest - what it says is that at the hearing in April Dr Winands promised separate treatment for coins, but it looks like that hasn't happened (hence the 'disappointing' comment).

Rather than "has stated expressively in the mentioned hearing that coins will be regarded separately" I'd have said "... expressly *stated* at the above hearing that coins *would* be given separate treatment".

Edited by translateltd at 4:24 pm, Sun 26 Jul

translateltd - 2015-07-26 16:20:00
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alpha111 wrote:

Not many NZ signatures. Cannot view name of other person from Upper Hutt, for some reason not public.

The other Upper Huttite is probably me - I selected the "don't display name to the known universe" option.

translateltd - 2015-07-26 16:42:00
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alpha111 wrote:

Not many NZ signatures. Cannot view name of other person from Upper Hutt, for some reason not public.

I am the only Aucklander to date.

gammoner - 2015-07-26 18:21:00
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Thanks, Martin, for the clarification.

echoriath - 2015-07-26 19:19:00
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Curious to know what "set" this was taken from: 923136267

translateltd - 2015-07-26 21:16:00
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antiquesellers >>> looking good now.

Edited by chefman1 at 5:51 pm, Mon 27 Jul

chefman1 - 2015-07-27 17:50:00
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gammoner wrote:

I am the only Aucklander to date.

Not any more.

chrisr5 - 2015-07-27 19:04:00
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donaldo - 2015-07-27 20:32:00
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coins-online ....interesting ...from upperhutt ..new trader ...thanks for the blacklist chris ...lol ...tui

Edited by chefman1 at 8:42 pm, Mon 27 Jul

chefman1 - 2015-07-27 20:36:00
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translateltd wrote:

Those are top-level items and are priced accordingly. If you have pennies that have been in circulation, mixed with other coins, and are in the normal worn condition you usually find them in, then they will be worth considerably less - you could be looking at cents rather than dollars, unfortunately. There are always exceptions - rare dates and varieties, for instance, but finding those can be a bit like winning the lottery. With no further detail and on the assumption that this is a standard lot of pennies, I'd say let her make the bowl!

Thank you for your reply

j.k - 2015-07-27 23:07:00
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Well that's annoying live bidding on nobles and it says my bids are submitted but not being accepted dam new online bidding system

mudeki - 2015-07-28 12:36:00
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mudeki wrote:

Well that's annoying live bidding on nobles and it says my bids are submitted but not being accepted dam new online bidding system

Someone else got the low-serial Lefeaux notes, then?

translateltd - 2015-07-28 23:09:00
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chefman1 wrote:

coins-online ....interesting ...from upperhutt ..new trader ...thanks for the blacklist chris ...lol ...tui


Hi Peter ~ how come a brand new trader has done that to you?? That's unfair. Maybe you are living on the wrong side of the track?/ (railway line). Hey not too long ago I only lived a few houses away from where you are now. Hope I'm O.K. and haven't been blacklisted. Guess you can't ask why you are blacklisted if you are blacklisted? Good to see you the other day and take care good care of yourself. Cheers.Don

Edited by alpha111 at 11:26 pm, Tue 28 Jul

alpha111 - 2015-07-28 23:25:00
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dtpapa - 2015-07-28 23:38:00
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was it just me, or was some of the bidding on noble a lot higher than usual? Not very many bargains at all!!

dtpapa - 2015-07-28 23:39:00
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Kurt Cobain on buying second hand stuff

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TJLUa3QjZOs

but I feel it could also apply to coin collecting. If I had a spare couple of million I'm sure I could quickly acquire a pretty snazzy collection (e.g 1916 standing liberty pcgs ms 66 fh!!!). But what would be the point? What would be the fun in that?

dtpapa - 2015-07-28 23:53:00
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Trade Me wrote:

The originally quoted post has been removed.

be careful were you bid next-time.....i will be watching you.....i have report you ok

Edited by chefman1 at 12:08 am, Wed 29 Jul

chefman1 - 2015-07-29 00:04:00
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alpha111 wrote:


Hi Peter ~ how come a brand new trader has done that to you?? That's unfair. Maybe you are living on the wrong side of the track?/ (railway line). Hey not too long ago I only lived a few houses away from where you are now. Hope I'm O.K. and haven't been blacklisted. Guess you can't ask why you are blacklisted if you are blacklisted? Good to see you the other day and take care good care of yourself. Cheers.Don

thanks don catch up with you soon

chefman1 - 2015-07-29 00:30:00
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chefman1 wrote:

be careful were you bid next-time.....i will be watching you.....i have report you ok

wtf are you blathering on about chefman?

I've just bid.

Didn't notice you anywhere?

No harassment bids?

dtpapa - 2015-07-29 07:18:00
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translateltd wrote:

Someone else got the low-serial Lefeaux notes, then?

Lol I wish i cold afford them. they come up later today I believe

mudeki - 2015-07-29 08:05:00
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is the bidding working properly now at noble?

dtpapa - 2015-07-29 08:25:00
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The Waitangi Crown went for $A6600 !!!

funho1 - 2015-07-29 08:28:00
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The Waitangi Crown is over rated.

Now here's a unique (nearly) piece I'd like to get my greasy hands all over!!

http://www.stacksbowers.com/BrowseAuctions/LotDetail/tabid/2
27/AuctionID/6104/Lot/31076/Default.aspx

dtpapa - 2015-07-29 09:15:00
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dtpapa wrote:

is the bidding working properly now at noble?

It worked for me in the $:30 (Aus time) session so they must of got it sorted and the live feed is working today. Price have been a tad higher for some things still they had some nice lots not photographed some of the old literature went cheaper than I thought it would

mudeki - 2015-07-29 18:40:00
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translateltd wrote:

Someone else got the low-serial Lefeaux notes, then?

Did not hit estimate but sold

2693 58,000
2694 39,000
2700 11,200

mudeki - 2015-07-29 19:01:00
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donaldo - 2015-07-29 22:15:00
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donaldo wrote:


AA say they are from TRISTAN da CUNHA [which appears correct ] but no country name is on these 'coins'
-- and that by accepting these type of advertisements reduces our AA fees

Another country renting its name out to the marketers in return for royalties. The only way to stop them is not to buy the products.

translateltd - 2015-07-29 22:28:00
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Also listed on page 17 of the winter issue 2015 of the RSA Review plus a second full page advertisement on page 7 for 'This beautifully hand-crafted pocket watch honours those who served our country courageously '.
But these coins are ' fully layered with pure 24 carat gold ' and is limited to one per household.

alpha111 - 2015-07-30 10:41:00
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3-day bump ...

translateltd - 2015-08-02 06:43:00
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funho1 wrote:

The Waitangi Crown went for $A6600 !!!


+ 20% = 6600 + 1320 = $A7920
What I thought was high price was lot 1057 NZ sixpences 30 ef/unc $A1440
appox $50 dollars each 16 silver 14 non silver I know nobles res are placed low it was $A150. Do others think that price was over the top? Colin.

35 - 2015-08-02 09:15:00
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As I recall, I bid $270 on that lot. Without seeing it, it is impossible to tell what would be a good price. Certainly, if all 30 coins were EF-UNC, then the price does not seem unreasonable. As I said, not having photos you cannot really make an educated bid.

Which raises the question why were there no pics? Why such big lot? The natural assumption a bidder might make is that the coins were inferior,and thus not worthy of smaller lots, or a pic?

dtpapa - 2015-08-02 09:27:00
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The Taxpayers Union is currently doing a survey on the proposal to lower the GST threshold on items purchased online from overseas.
Arguments for reducing the GST threshold:
* It would create a level playing field for New Zealand retailers who have had to compete with foreign online websites.
* GST is arguably the most fair form of taxation, having a GST-free threshold creates a loophole.
* New Zealand based businesses would benefit from consumers turning to New Zealand products, this could potentially lead to firms employing more staff here.

Arguments for leaving it as it is:
* It is administratively burdensome to collect the tax on items of low value - in some cases the tax collected may be less than the cost to collect.
* Consumers will be forced to pay more and wait longer for delivery of products purchased online.
* The Government has given no assurance than any increased revenue will be used to reduce another tax.

Those who think it is 'noble' to obtain coins from overseas should let MPs know what they think about it.

alpha111 - 2015-08-04 16:50:00
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alpha111 wrote:

The Taxpayers Union is currently doing a survey on the proposal to lower the GST threshold on items purchased online from overseas.
Arguments for reducing the GST threshold:
* It would create a level playing field for New Zealand retailers who have had to compete with foreign online websites.
* GST is arguably the most fair form of taxation, having a GST-free threshold creates a loophole.
* New Zealand based businesses would benefit from consumers turning to New Zealand products, this could potentially lead to firms employing more staff here.

Arguments for leaving it as it is:
* It is administratively burdensome to collect the tax on items of low value - in some cases the tax collected may be less than the cost to collect.
* Consumers will be forced to pay more and wait longer for delivery of products purchased online.
* The Government has given no assurance than any increased revenue will be used to reduce another tax.

Those who think it is 'noble' to obtain coins from overseas should let MPs know what they think about it.

Thanks for this - is there a link to the survey? I've always thought GST on second-hand goods (i.e. collectables) was a bit of a grey area anyway, though have always deducted and paid it to be on the safe side.

translateltd - 2015-08-04 22:03:00
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Forwarded link.

alpha111 - 2015-08-05 11:45:00
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if you missed this little beauty on ebay never fear, it is now available on trademe for a bargain price!

http://www.ebay.com/itm/New-Zealand-1940-Florin-VERY-Scarce-
Date-NGC-AU-58-/311408684925?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=
item4881676f7d&nma=true&si=N3S04%252FeGYO7Eo%252Bj4B
%252BiGRTioER0%253D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc&_trksid
=p2047675.l2557

dtpapa - 2015-08-06 19:00:00
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"A single tiny nick at the second "E" in George precludes gem proof status"

http://www.stacksbowers.com/BrowseAuctions/LotDetail.aspx?Au
ctionID=6104&Lot=31078&LotID=460730

what about that big scratch to George's neck, or am I missing something?

dtpapa - 2015-08-07 13:01:00
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Nz post have lost their minds. The so called commemorative coins are no longer coins but overpriced nicknacs In my opinion. first they made a coin with a kiwi shaped hole in it now a "coin" in the shape of a rugby jersey. I wish they would just make a normal proof coin at a reasonable price something they seem to have gone away from.

mudeki - 2015-08-07 14:08:00
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mudeki wrote:

Nz post have lost their minds. The so called commemorative coins are no longer coins but overpriced nicknacs In my opinion. first they made a coin with a kiwi shaped hole in it now a "coin" in the shape of a rugby jersey. I wish they would just make a normal proof coin at a reasonable price something they seem to have gone away from.

Took the words right out of my mouth. Looks like something from the Marshalls or Niue. Barge-pole material in my book.

translateltd - 2015-08-07 15:28:00
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dtpapa wrote:

"A single tiny nick at the second "E" in George precludes gem proof status"

http://www.stacksbowers.com/BrowseAuctions/LotDetail.aspx?Au
ctionID=6104&Lot=31078&LotID=460730

what about that big scratch to George's neck, or am I missing something?

What a pity there's no direct comment option - that's ridiculous. Another result of the "10-second handling and grade from a checklist" process?

translateltd - 2015-08-07 15:31:00
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I'm sure the good folk at ngc took longer than that to arrive at the grade! Hence only Proof-64. It's the folks at Stack's Bowers who need to open their eyes! (I don't think that scratch would be on the holder. Doesn't look like it is?)

Edited by dtpapa at 4:06 pm, Fri 7 Aug

dtpapa - 2015-08-07 16:05:00
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926414195

I must be tired and not seeing things clearly as this does not look like anything close to a high grade to me

mudeki - 2015-08-07 21:20:00
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I must be tired here is another one lol 927521193

mudeki - 2015-08-07 21:29:00
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Listing #: 928276928
interesting high grade 1956 strapless penny....lol

chefman1 - 2015-08-07 22:42:00
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chefman1 wrote:

Listing #: 928276928
interesting high grade 1956 strapless penny....lol

lmao just clean it and call it EF

mudeki - 2015-08-07 23:02:00
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mudeki wrote:

I must be tired here is another one lol 927521193

If you look at the bald left thigh you will realize that this Kiwi is suffering from Psittacine Beak and Feather Disease. PBFD is extremely contagious so don't bid as it might infect your other florins and lower their grade when they lost their feathers. Go the ABs.

alpha111 - 2015-08-08 18:14:00
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Some of the sellers who over-hype their items could learn a thing or two from this listing :-)

http://www.trademe.co.nz/a.aspx?id=929849739

(Not that I agree with the criticism - just thought it amusing.)

translateltd - 2015-08-09 14:06:00
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The member deleted this message.

donaldo - 2015-08-09 17:30:00
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donaldo wrote:

muzz sends his best wishes to all and thanks all those that voted him off as it has allowed him more time to sell more

--oops it must have been on the stamp club thread mainly

Not me, I enjoy his humor and comments.
How do you vote,"Bring back Muzz"

gammoner - 2015-08-09 18:02:00
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Someone else to start new page please

gammoner - 2015-08-09 18:03:00
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