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Welcome to the Coin Club. We are an assortment of newbies and oldbies, amateurs and experts with questions and answers for oldbies and newbies, amateurs and experts in coin collecting, also known as numismatics. Whether you are just getting started, have been collecting for years or have simply found some old coins about the place that you’d like to sell, this is the place to ask your questions.

No one has all the answers, and you may get five differing answers to the same question, yet each may be right in a manner of speaking, especially if opinions are involved. Opinions often vary. If you receive no answer to your query within 48 hours, please ask again.

gammoner - 2015-06-29 14:13:00
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gammoner wrote:
dtpapa wrote:

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I have to return a coin purchased from ebay (value ~ 400NZD).

anyone who has done similar before, any advice, cautions etc of how to go about this? NZ post is the way to go? I'll need the special insurance as it is coin?

What was the problem with the purchase?
Who has to pay for the return as often the sellers accept returns but not the actual cost of it being returned.
Must have a signature required service to prove it has been returned.
The cost of insurance will probably be around 20% of that $400 value.
Good luck

I'll be paying for the return cost. 80 dollars insurance?? You can't be serious!! Bloody NZ post. I'll send it without.

dtpapa - 2015-06-29 14:32:00
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dtpapa wrote:

I'll be paying for the return cost. 80 dollars insurance?? You can't be serious!! Bloody NZ post. I'll send it without.

Yes, most people would do the same and take the risk

gammoner - 2015-06-29 15:51:00
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Would NZP even consent to insuring a numismatic item? If the item wasn't heavy I'd be taping the 2x2 inside something else like a small magazine and sending it by ordinary airmail without drawing any attention to the content.

translateltd - 2015-06-29 17:09:00
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It has to be tracked. I guess registered mail would work.

is there actually anything of value you can post that doesn't qualify as prohibited or restricted according to nz post?

dtpapa - 2015-06-29 17:28:00
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translateltd wrote:

Would NZP even consent to insuring a numismatic item? If the item wasn't heavy I'd be taping the 2x2 inside something else like a small magazine and sending it by ordinary airmail without drawing any attention to the content.

Yes a great way for an inexpensive item. Not sure on the reason for returning or if you trust the seller now. Problem with not having it at least verified that a delivery took place with obtaining a sig, then seller can just protest item never arrived. Seller still has your hard earned money and you no longer have the $400 item .

gammoner - 2015-06-29 17:32:00
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dtpapa wrote:

It has to be tracked. I guess registered mail would work.

is there actually anything of value you can post that doesn't qualify as prohibited or restricted according to nz post?

We don't even have proper international registered any more - our "registered" mail is only tracked until it leaves the country as far as I understand, unless they've changed it again recently.

Last time I looked at a registered envelope it warned against sending anything of value - so someone remind me what was the point of registration again, please ...

translateltd - 2015-06-29 18:51:00
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muzz8 - 2015-06-29 19:53:00
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feckin look at this!

http://www.ebay.com/sch/New-Zealand-/48026/i.html?_from=R40&
amp;_nkw=anzac+roll&_sop=3

fu nz post. Feckin amateurs.

dtpapa - 2015-06-30 19:33:00
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were there any "pine cone" Kiwi coins actually produced in 1933, or was it only on the drawing board?

dtpapa - 2015-06-30 20:25:00
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dtpapa wrote:

were there any "pine cone" Kiwi coins actually produced in 1933, or was it only on the drawing board?

http://www.noble.com.au/auctions/lot?id=88404
Here is a shilling. Not sure about other ones.

duanmu - 2015-06-30 22:14:00
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dtpapa wrote:

were there any "pine cone" Kiwi coins actually produced in 1933, or was it only on the drawing board?

A small number of pattern shillings were made - I think the Reserve Bank has one in its display in Wellington.

translateltd - 2015-06-30 22:17:00
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908627462 How can this be classed as UNC

lester36 - 2015-06-30 22:52:00
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lester36 wrote:

908627462 How can this be classed as UNC

Clearly the wrong photo was used in error!

translateltd - 2015-06-30 23:38:00
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translateltd wrote:

Clearly the wrong photo was used in error!

Par for the course in the sellers gradings lol

gammoner - 2015-06-30 23:55:00
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909147276
Golly, I can only go F+ at best for this

gammoner - 2015-06-30 23:58:00
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gammoner wrote:

909147276
Golly, I can only go F+ at best for this

the "unc" 1/2cr I purchased from him was an f'in shocker, let me tell you!! Looked like someone had taken to it with sandpaper!!

dtpapa - 2015-07-01 08:04:00
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duanmu wrote:

http://www.noble.com.au/auctions/lot?id=88404
Here is a shilling. Not sure about other ones.

that is so lovely! I got to have one!!

Edited by dtpapa at 8:09 am, Wed 1 Jul

dtpapa - 2015-07-01 08:06:00
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okay, which one of you rich pricks bought this!!!?
(and will you let me touch it?)

http://noble.com.au/auctions/lot?id=291360&ret=1

Edited by dtpapa at 2:56 pm, Wed 1 Jul

dtpapa - 2015-07-01 14:54:00
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hmmm ... there is a pic of one on the back cover of the John Bertrand catalogue...

dtpapa - 2015-07-01 14:57:00
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dtpapa wrote:

hmmm ... there is a pic of one on the back cover of the John Bertrand catalogue...

Since it's on the Noble Numismatics ad it's probably the same coin from their 1999 sale.

translateltd - 2015-07-01 16:05:00
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dtpapa wrote:

okay, which one of you rich pricks bought this!!!?
(and will you let me touch it?)

http://noble.com.au/auctions/lot?id=291360&ret=1

Not telling and only if you wear gloves ( no sandpaper allowed) with a handling fee of $1000 for the privilege.

gammoner - 2015-07-01 18:49:00
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with a handling fee of $1000 for the privilege = lol...Alan ....love it

chefman1 - 2015-07-01 18:55:00
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lester36 wrote:

908627462 How can this be classed as UNC

[911211567] interesting as this trader can't grade his coins like a few others i know

chefman1 - 2015-07-01 19:02:00
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chefman1 wrote:

[911211567] interesting as this trader can't grade his coins like a few others i know

Someone else who just puts up indicative photos to show the basic coin type, rather than the actual one being sold? :-)

translateltd - 2015-07-01 19:37:00
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The thing that annoys me the most about buying coins online is how a different angle of the photo or angle of the light makes so much difference to the photos

http://tinyurl.com/oe4kuu7

This is the same coin. Photo 1 and 3 do not show the lustre on the coin but show the scuff marks better. 2 and 4 show the coin reflecting more and would most likely sell better (especially #2). What photo do you think I should be using to sell it?

mudeki - 2015-07-01 22:26:00
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It is tricky. Some photos can overemphasize the flaws and others understate them. I know some sellers chose. I always take pix until I get one that I feel most closely represents what I see.

When you say scuff marks, do you mean at 6:00? There seems to be very light wear on the main part of the hair and the cheek , especially apparent in photo 1, overly emphasized in that one, I suspect. Photo 3 might be at risk of understating that wear, though it certainly shows the coin in the most flattering light. If photo 2 captured a little more of the lustre, I'd probably use that (less the finger/shadow), as that wear on the cheek and hair is apparent but not so overt; feels the most honest representation of that wear without my having actually seen the coin in person. Photo 4 seems quite washed out, to the point where I would not personally consider using it.

echoriath - 2015-07-02 00:35:00
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Thanks Echoriath. I normally take them like photo 1 as this is the best way to take photos of new shiny coins without making the field of the coin reflect the black camera so it works well for the errors and when I photo catalogue my collection. The down side has been what I am getting when selling coins so maybe I need to spend a bit more time on them I just dont want to make them look better than what they are

mudeki - 2015-07-02 14:10:00
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When my grandmother died I was given a large coin collection, a lot handed down to her from her parents but some from when Granddad was in the WWII, tonight I was given a large box of Pennies that my Great Aunt owned to add to my collection... I tried to use Google to find out if there is any value to these Pennies, would you agree these are the value of them ? http://www.colonialcollectables.com/86-pennys My sister would quite like them, so she can make a bowl from them.

j.k - 2015-07-04 00:20:00
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j.k wrote:

When my grandmother died I was given a large coin collection, a lot handed down to her from her parents but some from when Granddad was in the WWII, tonight I was given a large box of Pennies that my Great Aunt owned to add to my collection... I tried to use Google to find out if there is any value to these Pennies, would you agree these are the value of them ? http://www.colonialcollectables.com/86-pennys My sister would quite like them, so she can make a bowl from them.

Those are top-level items and are priced accordingly. If you have pennies that have been in circulation, mixed with other coins, and are in the normal worn condition you usually find them in, then they will be worth considerably less - you could be looking at cents rather than dollars, unfortunately. There are always exceptions - rare dates and varieties, for instance, but finding those can be a bit like winning the lottery. With no further detail and on the assumption that this is a standard lot of pennies, I'd say let her make the bowl!

translateltd - 2015-07-04 08:12:00
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Bump, for good measure.

translateltd - 2015-07-07 08:31:00
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Nice to know we all are a little wealthier today.

We all live with gold – it’s literally in our bodies.
While humans are composed of oxygen, carbon, hydrogen, nitrogen, calcium, phosphorous and 19 other ‘essential’ elements, we also contain traces of many more, including gold and silver.

In Nature's Building Blocks: An A-Z Guide to the Element, award-winning science writer John Emsley says the weight of gold in the average person is about 7 milligrams.

It doesn’t appear that it has much purpose. It gets absorbed into our systems via the air that we breathe and the things we eat and drink.

Neither is it a recipe for unexpected wealth. Excluding medical and dental gold, quantities are so miniscule that your personal body stash is worth about $0.36.

gammoner - 2015-07-07 12:33:00
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Also wonder what the silver content would be from all those "money Xmas cakes" stuffed with 3d, 6d, 1/- etc we had as kids. Still remember my Grandads trick after we were so full and no apparent coins visible in the remainder of the cake, he had folded up a 5 pound note while nobody was looking, took another piece of that leftover cake, and out came the windfall. All of a sudden there was no more cake.
Guess that note is now not an UNC example

gammoner - 2015-07-07 12:40:00
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Alan.... i though it was xmas pudding not xmas cake...??? if it was cake i miss out
on all the silver coins then....lol

Edited by chefman1 at 2:14 pm, Tue 7 Jul

chefman1 - 2015-07-07 14:13:00
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are coins restricted items or not?

https://www.nzpost.co.nz/personal/sending-internationally/co
mpensation-restricted-prohibited-items

"Any collectible (other than coins) or antique or any painting, sculpture or other work of art valued under NZ$1,500"

dtpapa - 2015-07-07 14:24:00
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Quick reference guide to common Prohibited items = Coins, currency, or vouchers/gift cards/tickets for games of chance are all prohibited items.
and all Antiques & collectables are not covered by nz posted if they get lost they will not pay you out if you make a claim

Edited by chefman1 at 2:44 pm, Tue 7 Jul

chefman1 - 2015-07-07 14:34:00
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but does that include collectible coins? Seems ambiguous at best, and contradicted in the quote I gave where it says "other than coins"?

dtpapa - 2015-07-07 14:41:00
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dtpapa wrote:

but does that include collectible coins? Seems ambiguous at best, and contradicted in the quote I gave where it says "other than coins"?

Agree it's ambiguous as presented. Coins are listed in the general section on prohibited items higher up the page, so maybe it's the $1,500 threshold that doesn't apply to coins in the sections you quote. (I.e. they're prohibited regardless of value.) Could do with a bit clearer presentation, though.

translateltd - 2015-07-07 14:53:00
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the casual reader could easily conclude that "collectible" coins are okay to send, as long as the value is not higher than the compensation limit. This would be a common sense interpretation to make. At least in my opinion!

dtpapa - 2015-07-07 14:59:00
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Three-day bump ...

translateltd - 2015-07-10 14:09:00
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With the coin club out in front, everyone seems to be taking a winter break

gammoner - 2015-07-10 14:30:00
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Well I've a Fiji fishing trip coming up soon at least.

gammoner - 2015-07-10 14:31:00
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Well, just very busy. Have fun fishing.

echoriath - 2015-07-10 18:26:00
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gammoner wrote:

Well I've a Fiji fishing trip coming up soon at least.

Need someone to bait the hooks?

wasgonna - 2015-07-10 20:25:00
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wasgonna wrote:

Need someone to bait the hooks?

Wasgonna ask that question myself

lester36 - 2015-07-10 21:26:00
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wasgonna wrote:

Need someone to bait the hooks?

if you ask him nicely he might let you hold on to his gold bars while he is away!

dtpapa - 2015-07-10 21:54:00
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