THE NEW COIN CLUB
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| 6351 | Welcome to the Coin Club. We are an assortment of newbies and oldbies, amateurs and experts with questions and answers for oldbies and newbies, amateurs and experts in coin collecting, also known as numismatics. Whether you are just getting started, have been collecting for years or have simply found some old coins about the place that you’d like to sell, this is the place to ask your questions. No one has all the answers, and you may get five differing answers to the same question, yet each may be right in a manner of speaking, especially if opinions are involved. Opinions often vary. If you receive no answer to your query within 48 hours, please ask again. echoriath - 2015-06-09 18:29:00 |
| 6352 | Welcome to the Coin Club. We are an assortment of newbies and oldbies, amateurs and experts with questions and answers for oldbies and newbies, amateurs and experts in coin collecting, also known as numismatics. Whether you are just getting started, have been collecting for years or have simply found some old coins about the place that you’d like to sell, this is the place to ask your questions. No one has all the answers, and you may get five differing answers to the same question, yet each may be right in a manner of speaking, especially if opinions are involved. Opinions often vary. If you receive no answer to your query within 48 hours, please ask again. chefman1 - 2015-06-09 18:30:00 |
| 6353 | Hi Peter, good to see you are back gammoner - 2015-06-09 18:57:00 |
| 6354 | translateltd wrote:
must be the same one(pcgs #31745615?). maybe there was some within the holder toning done? I've read that it can be done! dtpapa - 2015-06-09 19:05:00 |
| 6355 | Too many replicas!! Oh, wait is it reproductions when it's message board posts? Don't think I didn't notice, abro. Welcome back, Peter. Hope all is well. Onward and upward, lads and lasses! echoriath - 2015-06-09 19:32:00 |
| 6356 | Hello all We are now on the same page as the stamp people and catching fast. lester36 - 2015-06-09 19:40:00 |
| 6357 | lester36 wrote:
Yes, their members will be becoming unhinged at the prospect of becoming second behind the coin club gammoner - 2015-06-09 19:57:00 |
| 6358 | They may also find out that they have been licked and their value will decrease :-) No longer mint but unhinged. lester36 - 2015-06-09 20:36:00 |
| 6359 | for crying out loud!! why didn't any of you numnuts bid on this? 897280242 Although the photo quality is not great, it must be at least VF+, possibly close to AU even. Worth a punt of say 80 bucks, as you certainly would get at least your moneys worth! I was going to bid myself, but I was watching CI network and I forgot. It can get very intense, and you lose all track of time!! I'm disappointed zqnkiwi didn't put in a decent bid, although his feedback would suggest that he prefers to pay only BIG money for coins the seller originally bought off ebay for a pittance!! at least trelawney1 got a bargain. I see the poor bugger is trying to hock off the 1934 1/2CR that he paid way too much for from a seller who probably got it off ebay for chump change!! dtpapa - 2015-06-10 07:29:00 |
| 6360 | This message was deleted. muzz8 - 2015-06-10 07:51:00 |
| 6361 | This message was deleted. donaldo - 2015-06-10 12:43:00 |
| 6362 | donaldo wrote:
Like your sense of humour Don gammoner - 2015-06-10 13:17:00 |
| 6363 | This message was deleted. oldecurb - 2015-06-10 23:22:00 |
| 6364 | oldecurb wrote:
Yes agree, only gvf to vf+ gammoner - 2015-06-10 23:27:00 |
| 6365 | 897283266 gammoner - 2015-06-10 23:32:00 |
| 6366 | I was thinking the list had gone a bit quiet and hadn't noticed we'd crossed another '50' and started a new page - d'oh! translateltd - 2015-06-11 08:33:00 |
| 6367 | gammoner wrote:
A sudden realisation that nickel and silver aren't quite the same thing? translateltd - 2015-06-11 09:09:00 |
| 6368 | translateltd wrote:
Also been there done that. Must be a sign of advancing years. gammoner - 2015-06-11 12:27:00 |
| 6369 | I don't think "looks cleaned" is a valid grading. The only way you can tell a coin has been cleaned is to inspect with a loupe. Beats me how anyone can give a definite grade from the photos. Far too blurry. Perhaps trelawney, once he/she received said coin, can post quality photos. Anyone know him/her, or email address? it will be a test of some of you so called experts cred!! Edited by dtpapa at 12:43 pm, Thu 11 Jun dtpapa - 2015-06-11 12:36:00 |
| 6370 | dtpapa wrote:
Disagree. You can usually tell a cleaned coin - too good a colour for the amount of wear, or residues of dirt between letters but none elsewhere, too unnatural a shine if it's been dipped, etc. "Looks cleaned" isn't a grading but a comment that an item isn't really as good as it might appear at first glance :-) Edited by translateltd at 1:53 pm, Thu 11 Jun translateltd - 2015-06-11 13:48:00 |
| 6371 | gammoner wrote:
Cool - pleased you like it! translateltd - 2015-06-11 13:49:00 |
| 6372 | The member deleted this message. muzz8 - 2015-06-11 14:36:00 |
| 6373 | muzz8 wrote:
Looking at the variance in weight in the ones I found on-line that's probably within tolerance. It looks cleaned (!) but then much older silver has been as a matter of course. translateltd - 2015-06-11 14:46:00 |
| 6374 | This message was deleted. muzz8 - 2015-06-11 14:55:00 |
| 6375 | This message was deleted. muzz8 - 2015-06-11 15:18:00 |
| 6376 | dtpapa wrote:
Oooh, and the gloves come off!! echoriath - 2015-06-11 15:22:00 |
| 6377 | Should we create a coin consortium to avail ourselves of this once in a lifetime investment opportunity?? It just needs 20 of us to put in $500 each. alpha111 - 2015-06-12 10:11:00 |
| 6378 | alpha111 wrote:
There's been a bit of discussion of that on another forum - if it's genuine it is exceptionally rare. A coin website in Calgary estimates C$7,500 as a ballpark figure if one ever turned up on the market. https://trademe.tmcdn.co.nz/photoserver/full/389576714.jpg Edited by translateltd at 10:18 am, Fri 12 Jun translateltd - 2015-06-12 10:16:00 |
| 6379 | muzz8 wrote:
Let me know when and if I have to send that $5 gammoner - 2015-06-12 18:15:00 |
| 6380 | The member deleted this message. muzz8 - 2015-06-12 18:25:00 |
| 6381 | stunning over grading!! http://www.pcgs.com/cert/30368209 going for bargain price of $750. Be quick, chumps!! dtpapa - 2015-06-12 20:18:00 |
| 6382 | ffs!! why didn't any of you bozos bid on this? Edited by dtpapa at 8:52 pm, Fri 12 Jun dtpapa - 2015-06-12 20:51:00 |
| 6383 | dtpapa wrote:
The Ebay pics are much better than the local ones gammoner - 2015-06-12 21:21:00 |
| 6384 | Maybe more chance of winning lotto than someone buying this set, even with the subsidised shipping fee? gammoner - 2015-06-12 21:26:00 |
| 6385 | "6.) Disagreement with the grade of an NGC, PCGS, PCGS-C, or PMG Certified coin or banknote is not a valid reason for a return. In any case where a return is initiated based upon disagreement with the grade of an industry accepted, thrid party graded item, the buyer will be reported via to eBay via the the seller's reporting hub, as well as a via the numismatic professional channels." Well, there's a good reason not to even think of bidding, the seller's illiteracy notwithstanding. translateltd - 2015-06-12 21:45:00 |
| 6386 | translateltd wrote:
I don't think I follow. You reckon it is reasonable to return a coin because you disagree with the pro grading? dtpapa - 2015-06-12 21:56:00 |
| 6387 | dtpapa wrote:
I reckon I don't believe the "pros" to be infallible, just as you yourself have highlighted some egregious overgrading on their part. If a coin turned out to be worse in real life than it looked in the photos or on the grader's label, then too right I'd be after a refund. translateltd - 2015-06-12 21:58:00 |
| 6388 | translateltd wrote:
true. But the overgrading (of NZ coins) seems to be confined to the 1936 Florin. Obviously some sort of a rort going on. But if the seller provides excellent photos, as he does in this case, then, unless there are unforeseen and unusual circumstances, I would submit that it would be very unreasonable to return a pro graded coin. Edited by dtpapa at 10:16 pm, Fri 12 Jun dtpapa - 2015-06-12 22:06:00 |
| 6389 | That particular seller (I think his name is Biagi) is a dickhead. He's one of those classic personality types, who cannot admit to being in the wrong, nothing is his fault, and has an excuse for everything. But he has a good source of bargain price NZ coins! Bugger that! Perhaps I should issue him a grovelling apology for telling him his customer service was crappy and he has an ego problem!! dtpapa - 2015-06-12 22:14:00 |
| 6390 | Regardless of where you but a coin from people have a different opinion of grades I have tested this in the past. I ordered the same year/type coin in UNC from 5 dealers and the difference between them was rather amusing and I ended up returning 3 of them. If local dealers that see NZ coins on a day to day basis get it wrong I am sure these so called Pro grading companies that see our coins once a week if they are lucky will not get it right very often. mudeki - 2015-06-12 22:17:00 |
| 6391 | yeah, sure, grading has a subjective element to it, which is why I think you would be opening a can of worms if you allowed buyers to return a pro graded coin because they allegedly disagree with the grade. dtpapa - 2015-06-12 22:27:00 |
| 6392 | We have got to only 4 behind with some informative and interesting discussion . lester36 - 2015-06-12 22:32:00 |
| 6393 | alpha111 wrote:
might be exceptionally rare, but it sure looks horrible!! dtpapa - 2015-06-12 22:32:00 |
| 6394 | lester36 wrote:
I would allow a small variation, say an MS 63 one day, MS 64 the next etc. That sort of thing can't be helped when you have a number of different graders doing the work. There will always be a subjective factor. Boundary between grades will be blurry etc. dtpapa - 2015-06-12 22:39:00 |
| 6395 | It would be interesting to see how they grade them. With a standard 20x loop it would be hard to get it right all the time and then to be doing coins from all over the world even harder to know what high points to look at. I like looking at coins through the camera but it can be a pain to get lighting right. Here is a coin I took from a mint bag years ago but it show all the fine die faults as well as the bag marks (must be impossible to find a good one of these that is not from a set) http://tinyurl.com/2004wartchin mudeki - 2015-06-12 22:46:00 |
| 6396 | KAPOW!!! dtpapa - 2015-06-12 22:46:00 |
| 6397 | mudeki wrote:
they've been doing it a while. I'm sure they have it down pat by now. I'd grade that MS 63, btw. dtpapa - 2015-06-12 22:50:00 |
| 6398 | 98.... chefman1 - 2015-06-12 23:36:00 |
| 6399 | 99. chefman1 - 2015-06-12 23:36:00 |
| 6400 | 100...turn page chefman1 - 2015-06-12 23:36:00 |
