2pc stamp cont'd.
Can skp please tell my why a business would place a 2pc stamp on a receipt and then cancel it? Was it a form of discount or used for postage?
Any info would be appreciated, thnx.

ironthrone990 - 2015-02-25 14:27:00

Will try and get one loaded in the next day or so.

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donaldo - 2015-02-27 11:48:00

851565489
If I did not already have one of these scarce ones … … …

warm3 - 2015-02-27 12:49:00

Back in the 1800's - 1900's through to as late as 1950's & 1960's , it was commonplace for business receipts to have postage or other stamps put on them & cancelled by signing over them with a date .. this went as far as the wage tax stamps for payment of Social Security tax until these were withdrawn in 1958

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tmg - 2015-02-27 14:15:00

warm3 wrote:

851565489
If I did not already have one of these scarce ones … … …

in good condition too, for such a scarce item ;-)

tmg - 2015-02-27 14:19:00

donaldo wrote:

can you scan a photo to here
i presume you mean 2d stamp to receipt a payment
some older ones can be very collectable

I've since learned these were a government's way of gathering more revenue, "Stamp Duty". It's not very old. I found it while researching our family tree.

https://trademe.tmcdn.co.nz/photoserver/full/367015413.jpg

https://trademe.tmcdn.co.nz/photoserver/full/366773181.jpg

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ironthrone990 - 2015-02-27 20:28:00

ironthrone990 wrote:

I've since learned these were a government's way of gathering more revenue, "Stamp Duty". It's not very old. I found it while researching our family tree.

https://trademe.tmcdn.co.nz/photoserver/full/367015413.jpg

https://trademe.tmcdn.co.nz/photoserver/full/366773181.jpg[/
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that's a British 2d Stamp

tmg - 2015-02-27 23:12:00

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donaldo - 2015-03-03 12:41:00

Kangaroo Mail: Lessons must have been received on how to Screw up the Aussie Mail Service:

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2015-03-03/70c-stamps-could-cost-
1-under-plan-for-australia-post/6276704

"Australia Post: Malcolm Turnbull to confirm plans for two-tier mail service, wants postage stamp cost to rise from $70c to $1 "

That's only a 42.57% increase folks ;-)

They must have also ordered the advanced learner's lessons as well which include the full kit on how to screw up the Postal Service in half the time .. ;-)

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tmg - 2015-03-03 19:01:00

ironthrone990 wrote:

I've since learned these were a government's way of gathering more revenue, "Stamp Duty". It's not very old. I found it while researching our family tree.

https://trademe.tmcdn.co.nz/photoserver/full/367015413.jpg

https://trademe.tmcdn.co.nz/photoserver/full/366773181.jpg[/
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Yes, the receipt wasn't valid unless the stamp duty was paid on it.

dunedinstamps - 2015-03-03 20:28:00

Hi there, I have found (when cleaning out the many boxes of junk in my garage) two stamp collecting books filled with stamps from all over the world. My mother was going to throw them away but as a child I asked to be able to keep them.

They would all be from 1950-1970. How do you go about finding someone to sell them to or finding out what they are worth? Are there clubs or collectors groups? We are from Hamilton.

I might read through your thread here. Thanks in advance for any insight.

matthekiwi - 2015-03-03 21:19:00

STAMP & POSTCARD FAIR, this Saturday 7th March from 9am to noon at the Philatelic Centre, 67 Mandeville St, Riccarton, Christchurch.
Come along and put a face on your favourite Trade Me sellers.

twg1935 - 2015-03-05 09:14:00

matthekiwi wrote:

Hi there, I have found (when cleaning out the many boxes of junk in my garage) two stamp collecting books filled with stamps from all over the world. My mother was going to throw them away but as a child I asked to be able to keep them.

They would all be from 1950-1970. How do you go about finding someone to sell them to or finding out what they are worth? Are there clubs or collectors groups? We are from Hamilton.

I might read through your thread here. Thanks in advance for any insight.

I am not a dealer or specialist, just a collector so can't be specific. I suspect stamps collected in the 1950-70's, which was really one of the times when stamp collecting was very popular amongst young people ( I was one of them,then:) there will be many common stamps. Selling them yourself on trademe is likely to be your best bet, older albums seem to make quite good money depending on the stamps.
Do some research on TM and find out what you can about your stamps There are catalogues you can buy here but don't be fooled by some of the prices quoted. Your local library will have Stanley Gibbons and the like to research the world stamps.

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donaldo - 2015-03-10 11:45:00

what sort of stamps are these, straight sides?

https://trademe.tmcdn.co.nz/photoserver/full/369215837.jpg

Also where are they from ?

Thanks in advance

re-collectibles - 2015-03-10 21:07:00

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donaldo - 2015-03-10 21:24:00

Cheers these ones look a little nicer ... excuse scanner spots..

https://trademe.tmcdn.co.nz/photoserver/full/369220691.jpg

re-collectibles - 2015-03-10 21:32:00

hey regulars, I'm back....managed to buy a nice collection with some interesting postmarks and things outside my expertise. You lot happy to offer technical advice if I throw up some pics?

and yeh ha, finally managed to get some high value ones for myself out fo the over all purchase at a town fair....

bca - 2015-03-11 12:53:00

oh Donaldo, I am now Cambridge based, do you do insurance valuations? your Rotorua?

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donaldo - 2015-03-11 16:32:00

Hi there, have a Romanian stamp 1906

https://trademe.tmcdn.co.nz/photoserver/full/369413080.jpg

Looking on google it says it is blue ... but this one is green

http://colnect.com/en/stamps/stamp/239639-The_Romanian_army_
crosses_the_Danube-40th_Anniv_of_the_Reigning_of_Karl_1-Roma
nia

It does not look faded... and blue is a primary colour ... how does that work

any ideas?? cheers

re-collectibles - 2015-03-11 21:23:00

Hi there, found the green version ... cheers

re-collectibles - 2015-03-11 21:35:00

Hey Don,

Yes it is under general insurance, but once individual items or collections get above either $2k or $4k, they have to be listed separately. To do so, needs a valuation, as I am sure they wont take my word for it. The last lot I purchased with some more high value ones in it, has probably pushed me over that limit now, so wouldn't mind a real professional look over it. Prior to this last lot, took it to a professional firm, but all they would say was "some nice ones, but not for us", which was not what I asked them LOL

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donaldo - 2015-03-14 11:48:00

true, noticed TM sales prices for FU blue boys as an example....

bca - 2015-03-16 14:01:00

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donaldo - 2015-03-16 14:30:00

donaldo wrote:

bump
and are catalogue values accurate nowdays as so many items with supposedly high catalogue value are very hard to sell at even 10th to 20th catalogue value

some catalogues should also be becoming correspondingly difficult to sell .. some of the local jobs that seek to maintain high values & a few from further afield that carry a very high front cover value too .. ;-)

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tmg - 2015-03-20 01:42:00

STAMP & POSTCARD FAIR, this Saturday 21st March from 9am to noon at the Philatelic Centre, 67 Mandeville St, Riccarton, Christchurch.
Come along and put a face on your favourite Trade Me sellers.

twg1935 - 2015-03-20 08:56:00

correct terminology. A tear and thinning, is that a "flaw", or "damage" how do you word it? I know I want to say, not good condition type stuff, just need to make sure I use the right word.

bca - 2015-03-20 09:03:00

rarity question: 1/2d black 1882 SSF, normal perfs per inch, but width of stamp from side perf tip to side perf tip is only 18mm, not the normal 21mm. It essentially has perfs into the design on both sides, with no original margins. Is this common?

bca - 2015-03-20 16:59:00

bca wrote:

correct terminology. A tear and thinning, is that a "flaw", or "damage" how do you word it? I know I want to say, not good condition type stuff, just need to make sure I use the right word.

"would be Rare in it's perfect state"

"Spacefiller with more faults than Granny's old Lacies from 1910"

'seen better days " or "wears the ravages of time with untold faults" ? ;-)

will that do ? ;-)

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tmg - 2015-03-20 19:39:00

twg1935 wrote:

STAMP & POSTCARD FAIR, this Saturday 21st March from 9am to noon at the Philatelic Centre, 67 Mandeville St, Riccarton, Christchurch.
Come along and put a face on your favourite Trade Me sellers.

None of those paper masks please!

I understand that collectors may be in for a treat with the oportunity to acquire some very recent ex Library Stanley Gibbons "Stamps of the World" stamp catalogue sets. The Gibbons catalogues are always popular and very useful when working out how much to go up to when bidding or selling on trademe.

kiwisteven - 2015-03-21 01:42:00

bca wrote:

rarity question: 1/2d black 1882 SSF, normal perfs per inch, but width of stamp from side perf tip to side perf tip is only 18mm, not the normal 21mm. It essentially has perfs into the design on both sides, with no original margins. Is this common?

perfs aren't measured per inch , they are measured per 2 cm width and you really need a gauge to do it. In the sidefaces of 1882 you can sometimes get wider or narrower stamps and its not too significant when you find one unless it is quite distinctive. I think it would need to be at least 5mm. What you have is interersting but not of a significant extra value.

kiwisteven - 2015-03-21 01:48:00

donaldo wrote:

i would like some input into other views on insurance and ways of doing it--
i once had an uncle who never insured a thing as he maintained it was better to carry any losses himself rather than spend thousands on insurance--and he could afford to
but essentially you would need to check out the insurance company's requirements and who's valuation they will accept and their charges-- for starters

Don, I have done insurance valuations for many years. Started doing them when i worked for Laurie Franks in the 1970's. its not my favourite job but I realise i have a responsibilty to do them because of the expertise in the field that i have built up over so many years and the fact that so few people are really able to do a decent job. Insurance valuations are done on a replacement basis so its not so hard if you know current market values. I charge on the basis of the time it takes (Including travel and typing up the valuation) and I charge $50 an hour. I have also done valuations on several dealers stocks.

kiwisteven - 2015-03-21 01:57:00

thanks kiwisteven.....

bca - 2015-03-21 08:20:00

a scarce error .. undoubtedly seen by 2 watchers - 860430597 ;-)

tmg - 2015-03-21 15:35:00

I have come across quite a lot of old stamps , how do I no what's worth what, what do they roughly go for?,

rober4 - 2015-03-21 19:11:00

kiwisteven wrote:

Don, I have done insurance valuations for many years. Started doing them when i worked for Laurie Franks in the 1970's. its not my favourite job but I realise i have a responsibilty to do them because of the expertise in the field that i have built up over so many years and the fact that so few people are really able to do a decent job. Insurance valuations are done on a replacement basis so its not so hard if you know current market values. I charge on the basis of the time it takes (Including travel and typing up the valuation) and I charge $50 an hour. I have also done valuations on several dealers stocks.

Yes fully agree with your statement, this is an important service in fact your charge out is very fair as it is a very specialised field. I am surprised that any Insurance Company would compensate on a loss or damage if a highly valued collection has not been appraised by a Philatelic specialist / dealer. I have been providing Insurance Valuations for at least 25 years.

loision - 2015-03-21 22:17:00

loision wrote:

Yes fully agree with your statement, this is an important service in fact your charge out is very fair as it is a very specialised field. I am surprised that any Insurance Company would compensate on a loss or damage if a highly valued collection has not been appraised by a Philatelic specialist / dealer. I have been providing Insurance Valuations for at least 25 years.

I well remember one Christchurch dealer having to go and give evidence in Court following a insurance valuation he had done based on photocopies of stamps provided by a "investor". His valuation did not reveal the stamps were rusty on the back (and hence worth a lot less) because of course he did not inspect the actual stamps. It turned out that this big Insurance valuation was used to secure a Bank loan as part of a fraud where somebody ended up spending time in prison. Rule of thumb, you have to do a through job of any valuation you do and only seeing is believing.

kiwisteven - 2015-03-21 22:45:00

kiwisteven wrote:

I well remember one Christchurch dealer having to go and give evidence in Court following a insurance valuation he had done based on photocopies of stamps provided by a "investor". His valuation did not reveal the stamps were rusty on the back (and hence worth a lot less) because of course he did not inspect the actual stamps. It turned out that this big Insurance valuation was used to secure a Bank loan as part of a fraud where somebody ended up spending time in prison. Rule of thumb, you have to do a through job of any valuation you do and only seeing is believing.

Yes can be quite complex alright and definitely a discipline. Some valuations I have undertaken have been up to a week. Have formulated a good system. The worst valuations are where a collector will say the stamps are sorted, and they aren't or they only have ten albums, and it turn into 30! Madness and stupidity to do a valuation sight unseen.

loision - 2015-03-21 23:21:00

What's the value of nz 1958 2d stars error used

rober4 - 2015-03-22 11:24:00

from memory $250, watch out for fakes.

bca - 2015-03-22 16:19:00

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donaldo - 2015-03-22 20:12:00

forgery?

http://www.ebay.com/itm/161650222266?_trksid=p2060353.m1438.
l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT

dtpapa - 2015-03-25 20:11:00

this sold for a lot above CV???

http://www.ebay.com/itm/New-Zealand-Victoria-Land-1912-KEVII
-1d-Opt-Used-BRIT-ANTARCTIC-EXPD-Postmark-/351306968169?pt=U
K_Stamps_ROWStamps&hash=item51cb86ec69&nma=true&
si=N3S04%252FeGYO7Eo%252Bj4B%252BiGRTioER0%253D&orig_cvi
p=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557

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