THE NEW COIN CLUB
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| 5701 | Welcome to the Coin Club. We are an assortment of newbies and oldbies, amateurs and experts with questions and answers for oldbies and newbies, amateurs and experts in coin collecting, also known as numismatics. Whether you are just getting started, have been collecting for years or have simply found some old coins about the place that you’d like to sell, this is the place to ask your questions. No one has all the answers, and you may get five differing answers to the same question, yet each may be right in a manner of speaking, especially if opinions are involved. Opinions often vary. If you receive no answer to your query within 48 hours, please ask again. chefman1 - 2015-03-15 13:46:00 |
| 5702 | Good to see you around Peter, all the best,Alan gammoner - 2015-03-15 15:10:00 |
| 5703 | Anyone have an opinion on this AU grading claim for 856857131 especially the obverse ? gammoner - 2015-03-15 15:13:00 |
| 5704 | well, obviously there seems to be considerable wear to King George's beard. Maybe VF+, if in a generous mood!! dtpapa - 2015-03-15 16:03:00 |
| 5705 | gammoner wrote:
Not even VF, with that level of flatness on the beard detail. translateltd - 2015-03-15 17:34:00 |
| 5706 | translateltd wrote:
Yes, I couldn't grade it at VF either. gammoner - 2015-03-15 18:45:00 |
| 5707 | Is it possible the reverse is better than the obverse? Just wondering. I've not looked at a lot of these that were in good nick. echoriath - 2015-03-15 19:05:00 |
| 5708 | if you clean the coins it often makes the beard wear even more obvious! dtpapa - 2015-03-15 19:13:00 |
| 5709 | gammoner wrote:
Seller is avoiding the questions on this auction as he has responded to my question on another of his auctions tonight mudeki - 2015-03-15 22:15:00 |
| 5710 | translateltd wrote:
If you use Clarkes grading guide it would not even make a VG rating so it has no chance of making even F let alone VF lol Clarkes grading of Very Good Obverse "Part of the horizontal bands of the crown will show. The top curve of the ear will show faintly." mudeki - 2015-03-15 22:29:00 |
| 5711 | mudeki wrote:
A copy of Clarke should be on every NZ collector's shelf! translateltd - 2015-03-16 07:12:00 |
| 5712 | Clarke also makes an extremely important point " ... in general the reverse sides wear much less than the obverse sides" (1971:153). Technically not true; it's just obverse designs are often weaker so wear is more evident (take Ed VII). alpha111 - 2015-03-16 08:00:00 |
| 5713 | Definitely the case with Ed VII - could it also be that they tend to be in higher relief and so are more susceptible to wear? Many of our reverses are quite "busy" with no single central element standing out from the field. The half-crown reverse in particular is very flat/level/even/pick your word, so there are few points that will wear more readily than any others. Clarke did well to pick the lines in one of the masks as a starting point. translateltd - 2015-03-16 09:37:00 |
| 5714 | obverse of florin (King George ver) often seems to be higher grade, even if on the other side the Kiwi has serious feather damage!! Edited by dtpapa at 9:43 am, Mon 16 Mar dtpapa - 2015-03-16 09:42:00 |
| 5715 | 856830818 translateltd - 2015-03-16 10:47:00 |
| 5716 | And more finger contact from a recidivist offender Listing #: 857545327 alpha111 - 2015-03-16 15:43:00 |
| 5717 | Noticed that the Kapiti dealer has withdrawn the Eritrea Tallero/5 Lire 1896 Listing # 859444597 . Was it too good to be true? alpha111 - 2015-03-16 21:07:00 |
| 5718 | alpha111 wrote:
Not just coins either I got stuck with a commemorative that turned up today. I was in doubt with the colour but who knows with cameras these days so thought it was worth a go for the price lol auction Item received mudeki - 2015-03-16 22:12:00 |
| 5719 | mudeki wrote:
Boy, I know cameras can be good but they must have spent 8hrs airbrushing this one over and 8 coats of foundation makeup to cover up what you received . gammoner - 2015-03-16 23:54:00 |
| 5720 | They should patent the formula they have used and would become millionaires overnight gammoner - 2015-03-16 23:55:00 |
| 5721 | As the description was "very little handling" either it's been swapped or through the washing machine. B.st.rd alpha111 - 2015-03-17 07:52:00 |
| 5722 | alpha111 wrote:
Maybe cleaning dirt off with a wire brush doesn't constitute "handling"! Still, not top dollar at least, I guess. translateltd - 2015-03-17 07:58:00 |
| 5723 | Looking at it again, it looks like they've scrubbed it harshly (steelo?) after the photo was taken, to try and get rid of some of the stains. I first thought it was a different medal but the oval-ish mark above the AL of ROYAL is still there, although a little fainter now. translateltd - 2015-03-17 08:04:00 |
| 5724 | Yea it should of said very little handling except for when we cleaned it with a wire brush lol. oh well win some loose some I guess mudeki - 2015-03-17 08:05:00 |
| 5725 | translateltd wrote:
The marks shown in the auction photo are all still there its just the difference of taking the photo on the angle and directly above. I doubt it has been cleaned after it is just a very good angle for the photo and reflection of the light to hide the true condition mudeki - 2015-03-17 08:08:00 |
| 5726 | Same recidivist as in #5716 with more handling of coins. 1935 Silver Crown alpha111 - 2015-03-17 11:48:00 |
| 5727 | alpha111 wrote:
Did you tell him off for sticking his fingers all over his stuff? translateltd - 2015-03-17 14:34:00 |
| 5728 | alpha111 wrote:
I wonder if he blacklisted a few people after he was given a hard time in this forum a few moths ago for reselling stuff he just purchased mudeki - 2015-03-17 17:15:00 |
| 5729 | translateltd wrote:
Yes, that combined with the first part of the following is why I find myself more and more following the prudent advice in the second part: alpha111 wrote:
Ah, well, just means I get to save up for the better pieces that are carefully handled. echoriath - 2015-03-17 18:46:00 |
| 5730 | The bargain of the day >> old chinese coin - crown size Current bid: $85.00 Listing #: 857776356 alpha111 - 2015-03-18 08:08:00 |
| 5731 | alpha111 wrote:
Ho ho. Some emptores need to do some cave-ing, methinks. translateltd - 2015-03-18 08:50:00 |
| 5732 | Amused by the image lifted from Delcampe here: 860196872 translateltd - 2015-03-18 12:11:00 |
| 5733 | Saw the item but missed the Delcampe (lack of attention). Funny night when two dealers battle it out for the McBride lucky penny ~ so where are the collectors who will ultimately buy it? And other high prices. Muggins here gets the Boulton death medal at reserve. Strange that a piece that commemorates a man who contributed so much to numismatics inspires no competition. Am I missing something? alpha111 - 2015-03-18 21:07:00 |
| 5734 | NZ AUCKLAND EXHIBITION 1913-14 MEDAL Listing #: 857792452 alpha111 - 2015-03-18 21:35:00 |
| 5735 | alpha111 wrote: mudeki - 2015-03-18 22:20:00 |
| 5736 | I do get tired of chipping away dollar by dollar sometimes and just wang on a bid that approximates my max. There can be a goal in that strategy. echoriath - 2015-03-18 22:24:00 |
| 5737 | I agree echoriath I do it from time to time (was not me doing it on that auction tonight was the other guy lol) It used to happen all the time at live auctions I went to when I was younger with people calling out big jumps in the price. Really gutted I did not win that auction tonight got distracted with feeding my daughter and she started to wake up. I was waiting all week just for that item lol Edited by mudeki at 10:36 pm, Wed 18 Mar mudeki - 2015-03-18 22:34:00 |
| 5738 | I was watching the Boulton medal, but I missed the auction end because I was watching the telly. If I'd remembered I'd have put in a few harassment bids just to stop you getting such a bargain. It's an ugly old medal, anyway. dtpapa - 2015-03-18 22:36:00 |
| 5739 | seems a lot for a 1964 set, even if graded highly by pcgs http://www.ebay.com/itm/221716722009?_trksid=p2060353.m1438. dtpapa - 2015-03-18 23:15:00 |
| 5740 | WOW!! At NZ$318 already!! Just won a BU 1964 set on Sunday ( P119746301 ) for $12.80 all up. Hope it's OK. alpha111 - 2015-03-19 08:31:00 |
| 5741 | seppos like high grades, and colourful tonings!! you don't see many graded MS67 NZ florins, of any year. But I suspect there would be plenty ungraded about that would grade that high. dtpapa - 2015-03-19 09:32:00 |
| 5742 | dtpapa wrote:
I've learned a new word today - thanks :-) translateltd - 2015-03-19 11:45:00 |
| 5743 | Hi all, I have been unable to find the weights of many of the MacMaster Gold medals and at the moment am looking for the weight of the 1971 NZ Bred Racehorces Gold Medal made by Hawkins Enterprises listed as1971/1. I would really appreciate help with this if someone has 1 handy to weigh. bjubes - 2015-03-19 11:55:00 |
| 5744 | a cautionary tale!! http://www.coincommunity.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=177751 dtpapa - 2015-03-19 12:21:00 |
| 5745 | bjubes wrote:
The gold medals seem to be 18ct as standard at that time so it would be a fairly safe bet that these are too - but yes, you'd need the gross weight to work from first. translateltd - 2015-03-19 12:43:00 |
| 5746 | translateltd wrote:
And when you find out, pse let me know so we can work it into the next edition :-) translateltd - 2015-03-19 13:00:00 |
| 5747 | I shall let you know when I know. I understand they are encased in timber so have not found anyone whom has 1 and is happy to open it. It would be great to see weights and ct in the next edition/coinerrors website. Also as a side note it would be nice to see a resource showing examples of NZ pre decimal coins and banknotes, EF, XF, UNC etc. I am keen to list some examples of coins and note others on Trademe really struggle to get it right when it comes to grading so a site/booklet showing examples would be great to point folk towards. bjubes - 2015-03-19 13:19:00 |
| 5748 | Definitely - whatever information we can find gets included, and as you can see there are still lots of gaps to fill. As for grading, I don't know of any photo guides for NZ items, but the nice, conservative descriptions in Clarke's "Coins of British Oceania" are still very useful. There are TIFFs of that section on my own web page, which I must save as more user-friendly PDFs soon. I'll post a link when I do. translateltd - 2015-03-19 13:29:00 |
| 5749 | I've heard from George Hawkins, who made the 1971/1 medal, and he says all his gold medals were 18k (75% gold, 25% silver), except for the 1970 rugby centennial, which was 24k. That at least confirms the fineness question. translateltd - 2015-03-19 15:33:00 |
| 5750 | Thanks heaps! I shall keep an eye out for a copy of Coins of British Oceania. bjubes - 2015-03-19 15:39:00 |
