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Welcome to the Coin Club. We are an assortment of newbies and oldbies, amateurs and experts with questions and answers for oldbies and newbies, amateurs and experts in coin collecting, also known as numismatics. Whether you are just getting started, have been collecting for years or have simply found some old coins about the place that you’d like to sell, this is the place to ask your questions.

No one has all the answers, and you may get five differing answers to the same question, yet each may be right in a manner of speaking, especially if opinions are involved. Opinions often vary. If you receive no answer to your query within 48 hours, please ask again.

echoriath - 2014-12-25 12:34:00
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Not a coin question.... I have just found a pair of consecutive Alan Bolard $50 notes in reasonable to excellent condition... They are BB is there anyway of finding it if they are worth more than face?

cashintheattic - 2014-12-25 21:38:00
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cashintheattic wrote:

Not a coin question.... I have just found a pair of consecutive Alan Bolard $50 notes in reasonable to excellent condition... They are BB is there anyway of finding it if they are worth more than face?

If they are UNC with no creases or folds when held up to the light there would be. It would also depend on the year as some Bollard $50's are still getting released into circulation at the same time as the new Wheeler notes. Also to note that some prefix's of 2008 $20 have been appearing in UNC in the last few months even though the 2013 $20 have been found in circulation for most of the year.

mudeki - 2014-12-25 22:34:00
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brett21 wrote:

I have a 2010 $1 New Zealand coin.

The queen has a wart of her chin.

Is this something I should put up for auction, worth anything?

Not a huge amount of money to be made from selling most of the $1 errors the most popular are the 2004 wart on chin faults that sell for between $5-$15 normally and the 2008 butterfly lips. The 2004 coins used to sell for a lot more closer to the time of release as the condition was better and this was before the recession that seems to slow things down a bit.

The 2010 Goiter error sells ok depending on condition for price but the real hard 2010 coin fault was #8 under 2010 on the coin error site http://wp.me/P4A88C-c I found very few of those and and have not found one since June

mudeki - 2014-12-26 00:00:00
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A little numismatic quiz - what have the two coins below got in common? (They're actually both 'cheats' in a way that will become obvious, but I hope the link will amuse:

http://trademe.tmcdn.co.nz/photoserver/full/354313944.jpg

translateltd - 2014-12-26 17:07:00
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Listing #: 826386429] a note from Malcolm Mowbray Collectables Ltd
Seller Comment: I am retiring after 14 years and we had a big tidy-up and now are having a CLEARANCE SALE to get things sorted!! VERY LOW RESERVES!!! ,...check other listings... Best Wishes, Malcolm

chefman1 - 2014-12-26 21:14:00
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translateltd wrote:

A little numismatic quiz - what have the two coins below got in common? (They're actually both 'cheats' in a way that will become obvious, but I hope the link will amuse:

http://trademe.tmcdn.co.nz/photoserver/full/354313944.jpg[/q
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No idea. you have both? and you cropped the photos is all I can guess lol

mudeki - 2014-12-27 20:13:00
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translateltd wrote:

A little numismatic quiz - what have the two coins below got in common? (They're actually both 'cheats' in a way that will become obvious, but I hope the link will amuse:

http://trademe.tmcdn.co.nz/photoserver/full/354313944.jpg[/q
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Taking a stab in the dark, and say both are Hungarian Coinage but that is the best I can come up with .

gammoner - 2014-12-27 20:19:00
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http://trademe.tmcdn.co.nz/photoserver/full/354449125.jpg
http://trademe.tmcdn.co.nz/photoserver/full/354449144.jpg

Can anyone shed any light on this coin It is a Kiang-Soo Twenty cash in Brass but it appears to be minted on a 10 cash blank.
It came from a very old collection so I know it is not a fake.

lester36 - 2014-12-27 20:30:00
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translateltd wrote:

A little numismatic quiz - what have the two coins below got in common? (They're actually both 'cheats' in a way that will become obvious, but I hope the link will amuse:

http://trademe.tmcdn.co.nz/photoserver/full/354313944.jpg[/q
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Since the moment has passed and the answer has been revealed on the RNSNZ Facebook page, I can disclose that the LH coin is a silver groschen of Wenceslas II of Bohemia, and the RH coin (Hungarian) shows St Stephen's crown. Bringing King Wenceslas and the crown together on the Feast of Stephen (yesterday) seemed somehow appropriate, even though neither is the actual chappie named in the Christmas carol.

Edited by translateltd at 10:38 pm, Sat 27 Dec

translateltd - 2014-12-27 22:35:00
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lester36 wrote:

http://trademe.tmcdn.co.nz/photoserver/full/
354449125.jpg

http://trademe.tmcdn.co.nz/photoserver/full/354449144.jpg

Can anyone shed any light on this coin It is a Kiang-Soo Twenty cash in Brass but it appears to be minted on a 10 cash blank.
It came from a very old collection so I know it is not a fake.

i can only say your assumption is probably right if the weight and diameter stack up.

translateltd - 2014-12-27 22:37:00
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Hello
Can any one remember when the new lets say facelift bank notes come into circulation?
And will all the old notes just be taken out as they get tatty etc.
Anyway its about time something different came along i think.
Your thoughts on the matter ?

nukhelenc - 2014-12-28 17:19:00
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They are supposed to be released one by one starting from late next year and both will co-circulate for a while. Definitely time for an upgrade, reserve banks all over the world do it every 15-20 years. Even American banknotes are changed, albeit slightly!

lbillows - 2014-12-28 18:51:00
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Who still uses bank notes?!?! It's all electronic these days!

But seriously, yes, US notes have changed a lot in the last 15 years or so, but that was the first really big obvious lot of changes in decades. They had made more subtle changes in the 90s, with micro-printing and security strips, but if people did not know to look for those things, then it was still easy to pass off counterfeits.

Now the average schlub in the street hopefully has some idea about the newly coloured notes. Still, pity the seriously visually impaired people who have to guess at what US note they are holding:
http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=6556446

And then you have the sighted schlub who got taken in by this:
http://www.thesmokinggun.com/documents/crime/bush-phony-200-
bill

The sad thing? The moron that took the $200 note can probably legally vote.

echoriath - 2014-12-28 19:25:00
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echoriath wrote:

Who still uses bank notes?!?! It's all electronic these days!

It is surprising how many people still prefer to use cash. Most of the people through the bank that want cash would be late 30's or older but mainly the 50+ age group so the real difference will be seen in in future years as kids do not get taught anything about real (physical) money these days. We get amusing questions at the bank with teenagers asking if we can swap coins for notes or if they have to do this at shops I had one the other day that said he wanted to withdrawal $20 into his account and then he handed me the money hopefully after we corrected him he will remember to say deposit next time as he really had no idea what the difference was. Hopefully the new notes will also create some new interest in the hobby

mudeki - 2014-12-28 21:12:00
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muzz8 - 2014-12-29 07:34:00
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muzz8 wrote:

Anyone got a spare $5,850,000.00- imagine the trademe fees on that if someone was gulliable enough
surely it must be mistake---few to many 0,s
826613448

Yes, maybe $58-50

gammoner - 2014-12-29 08:08:00
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muzz8 - 2014-12-29 08:26:00
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Looks like a new metal version of a Gillam medal in amongst the $5 million lot at least - I've asked for more details.

translateltd - 2014-12-29 09:38:00
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muzz8 wrote:

-i think he prob wants $5,850.00 by the way what fees on that figure- does TM have a "cap"

$149.00 cap

gammoner - 2014-12-29 12:27:00
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So there's the answer - the 5 mill price was put on to discourage bidding.

translateltd - 2014-12-29 19:25:00
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muzz8 - 2014-12-29 19:35:00
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Hi
just going though my wifes mothers coin collection
don't no if there is any value will start with a 1910 threepence
1870 threepence with a head of queen vic on it.
1935 shilling
there are more but will start with these
cheers

stonedog - 2014-12-29 20:09:00
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muzz8 wrote:

yes- saved 3 bucks (early closure fee) on a nearly 6000 dollar lot,because of a promised private deal--makes you wonder how much it sold for

Withdrawn by Trade Me now.

Edited by chefman1 at 9:10 pm, Mon 29 Dec

chefman1 - 2014-12-29 21:08:00
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chefman1 wrote:

Withdrawn by Trade Me now.

Blast - I never got to see the unanswered questions :-) At least she replied to my query about the Hansen reunion medal.

translateltd - 2014-12-29 21:49:00
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muzz8 - 2014-12-30 02:55:00
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muzz8 - 2014-12-30 16:05:00
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muzz8 wrote:

Help please- Does anyone have scans showing the difference in early Aust 1c and 2c for mintage - whiskers blunted etc

Renniks catalogue does. Not readily scannable without wrecking the spine, unfortunately.

translateltd - 2014-12-30 16:17:00
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the melbourne 1966 one cent coin with the blunt 1st whisker mintage was 238.99 million.
the perth 1966 one cent coin with the blunt 2nd whisker mintage was 26.62 million
the melbourne 1966 two cent coin with the blunt left 3rd claw mintage was 66..57 million
the perth 1966 two cent coin with the blunt right 1st claw mintage was 217.73 million.

hope that helps you out muzz8...cheers peter

chefman1 - 2014-12-30 16:25:00
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http://trademe.tmcdn.co.nz/photoserver/full/354825879.jpg
http://trademe.tmcdn.co.nz/photoserver/full/354825820.jpg

muzz....hope you can see them ok....cheers peter

Edited by chefman1 at 4:38 pm, Tue 30 Dec

chefman1 - 2014-12-30 16:33:00
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muzz8 - 2014-12-30 16:51:00
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muzz8 - 2014-12-30 17:36:00
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muzz8 - 2014-12-30 18:08:00
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Thanks for all the reply's
Who do you think will be the first place to start dishing the new notes out? Supermarkets ?
Banks never seem to have new notes.
Supermarkets and bank machines seem to.

nukhelenc - 2014-12-30 18:28:00
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the mints that i show you all the coins are uncirculated condition that's why
$25-$30.00 for the one cent coins & $6.00-$10.00 for the two cent coins in aussie dollars in my cat/book.
i had 100s & 100s of one and two cent coins to and only found a few of the varieties.

Edited by chefman1 at 6:39 pm, Tue 30 Dec

chefman1 - 2014-12-30 18:34:00
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muzz8 - 2014-12-30 18:50:00
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seems weird when there was so many.
but try and fine them in uncirculated condition now???
the 1968 one & two cent coins have a cat/value of $30-$35.00 each in unc condition.

chefman1 - 2014-12-30 19:01:00
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muzz8 - 2014-12-30 19:31:00
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aussie's put out six different 1966 coin sets >>>
1/ blue card
2/1c & 2c card
3/ blue wallet
4/ green wallet
5/ vip presentation wallet
6/ reserve bank wallet

chefman1 - 2014-12-30 19:55:00
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muzz8 - 2014-12-30 20:43:00
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chefman1 wrote:

aussie's put out six different 1966 coin sets >>>
1/ blue card
2/1c & 2c card
3/ blue wallet
4/ green wallet
5/ vip presentation wallet
6/ reserve bank wallet

I have a 1966 set in a plastic boomerang Have you seen that One

lester36 - 2014-12-30 20:52:00
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lester36 wrote:

I have a 1966 set in a plastic boomerang Have you seen that One

make it seven i forgot about that one...thanks lester36

chefman1 - 2014-12-30 20:59:00
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muzz8 wrote:


know it was blue, not sure if wallet or card- did all the mints supply all 6 variations

yes...but not number two.

chefman1 - 2014-12-30 21:01:00
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nukhelenc wrote:

Thanks for all the reply's
Who do you think will be the first place to start dishing the new notes out? Supermarkets ?
Banks never seem to have new notes.
Supermarkets and bank machines seem to.

It will be interesting to see how they put them into circulation I would hope they send some to the banks but this all depends on security companies and what old notes are still in stock. Security companies don't care what notes they had out so they will use what is easiest to grab from the shelf.

Banks often get new notes when they order the week before a public holiday as all banks often stock up to supply to retailers before the long weekend. Recently bundles of $5 and $10 notes have been spotted and the 2013 $20 were around more at the start of 2014. Atm's are normally the best bet for new $20 & $50 as the ATM's get loaded by the security companies if not attached to a branch. 100's are hit and miss at banks I have only seen one unc bundle all year.

mudeki - 2014-12-30 23:34:00
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can someone explain to me the bidding pattern on this auction? 826674186

do I not understand how it works, or has collector placed a bid for 500, and then upped it to 600, despite there being no other bids since the 500?

Edited by dtpapa at 5:53 pm, Wed 31 Dec

dtpapa - 2014-12-31 17:52:00
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dtpapa wrote:

can someone explain to me the bidding pattern on this auction? 826674186

do I not understand how it works, or has collector placed a bid for 500, and then upped it to 600, despite there being no other bids since the 500?

Collector may have placed an autobid for $600. Someone else has put in a $600 bid so it rises collectors autobid to the $600 mark without showing the other bidders bid. Hope that makes sense.

doggitt - 2014-12-31 18:04:00
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Latest banknote find at work. 2013 $10 BI BK BL BM CA prefixes with identical serial numbers All Unc condition

http://trademe.tmcdn.co.nz/photoserver/full/354991990.jpg

mudeki - 2014-12-31 18:23:00
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doggitt wrote:

Collector may have placed an autobid for $600. Someone else has put in a $600 bid so it rises collectors autobid to the $600 mark without showing the other bidders bid. Hope that makes sense.

I don't think it works like that - if I understand it correctly, your bid will only show if you have bid one increment higher than the next bidder. So in your example the new bidder would show at $600, and the first bidder would have to increase his high bid for it to register - and both would show in that case. Some bidders just get panicky and outbid themselves in an attempt to forestall others.

translateltd - 2014-12-31 20:33:00
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translateltd wrote:

I don't think it works like that - if I understand it correctly, your bid will only show if you have bid one increment higher than the next bidder. So in your example the new bidder would show at $600, and the first bidder would have to increase his high bid for it to register - and both would show in that case. Some bidders just get panicky and outbid themselves in an attempt to forestall others.

I'm pretty sure if there is an autobid to $XX and someone else bids also to $XX the first bid wins and the other doesn't even show.

doggitt - 2014-12-31 21:00:00
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doggitt wrote:

I'm pretty sure if there is an autobid to $XX and someone else bids also to $XX the first bid wins and the other doesn't even show.

Yea you have it right if person 1 places and autobid of say $50 then person 2 places a bid of $50 person #1 bid is increased to the maximum as they set that bid first and they lead the bidding trademe also sends an email advising your autobid has been equaled.

mudeki - 2014-12-31 21:27:00
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