THE NEW COIN CLUB
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| 5301 | Welcome to the Coin Club. We are an assortment of newbies and oldbies, amateurs and experts with questions and answers for oldbies and newbies, amateurs and experts in coin collecting, also known as numismatics. Whether you are just getting started, have been collecting for years or have simply found some old coins about the place that you’d like to sell, this is the place to ask your questions. No one has all the answers, and you may get five differing answers to the same question, yet each may be right in a manner of speaking, especially if opinions are involved. Opinions often vary. If you receive no answer to your query within 48 hours, please ask again. echoriath - 2014-12-22 01:18:00 |
| 5302 | mudeki wrote:
Keep an eye on the chin (it's a beauty spot, not a wart) and lower lip, which looks a bit like she got in a dust up. There's also a die crack from the base of the effigy to the rim and from the tip of the crown to the rim. http://trademe.tmcdn.co.nz/photoserver/full/353731446.jpg Sorry for the poor photos. I found these just a little while ago, and the light is not working well on this shiny new piece. There's also something going on around the letters at the start of ELIZABETH, with some kind of surface roughness that looks like it might come from problems in the die surface. echoriath - 2014-12-22 01:28:00 |
| 5303 | Listing #: 822018615 lol Alan.....$4,400 for a 1988 set of coins with [2 lots of acid wash on coins] Edited by chefman1 at 7:28 am, Mon 22 Dec chefman1 - 2014-12-22 07:26:00 |
| 5304 | chefman1 wrote:
Always leave a little in for the next bidder lol, has a reserve of $5000 so feel free to bid. gammoner - 2014-12-22 08:35:00 |
| 5305 | echoriath wrote:
Freshly out and full of flaws already! translateltd - 2014-12-22 09:03:00 |
| 5306 | it's about time the old bat abdicated, give charlie a go!! dtpapa - 2014-12-22 09:35:00 |
| 5307 | dtpapa wrote: gammoner - 2014-12-22 09:39:00 |
| 5308 | Tsk, tsk. By September next year HM will have out-reigned Queen Victoria. I'm sure record-setting isn't part of her agenda but it would be nice to see, anyway. translateltd - 2014-12-22 09:47:00 |
| 5309 | translateltd wrote:
Yes, at first I felt special, then I realised that if the very first one I find is so flawed, there probly won't be a shortage of flaws about. FWIW, there's also a bit of the fern on the back that's joined together with a wee cud. Nothing major, but a fair few on one specimen. echoriath - 2014-12-22 10:15:00 |
| 5310 | tsuba wrote:
The 1945 is 11.9 grams and the 46 is 14 grams. If the alloy mix was scewed up do you think it is reasonable to think that the 45 has a much higher silver content than normal since it can be scratched by my finger nail. The 46 shows no sign of tarnishing which is normal for 99% pure silver. Not suggesting it is 99% just that if it were higher than 50 it would not tarnish as readily although it also depends on the alloy mix. tsuba - 2014-12-22 10:23:00 |
| 5311 | translateltd wrote:
I guess I didn't check the $1 coins last week but have a few bags at work with full rolls of 2013 for the searching. mudeki - 2014-12-22 10:36:00 |
| 5312 | tsuba wrote:
That's a lot of weight loss. I've just checked three average-to-middling 1940s silver halfcrowns and they're all 14 to 14.1 g (spec is 14.14g). A weight loss of around 15% couldn't be explained by alloy irregularities alone, and the wear would have to be much greater than yours seems to exhibit. Maybe it really is just a very good-quality casting in a softer metal. Is the edge milling very clear/sharp? translateltd - 2014-12-22 10:42:00 |
| 5313 | Yes the edge is nice and sharp etc. I make cast jewelry and the coin shows no sign of being a casting. The weight lose could be due to the metal mix do you think. Is silver a lighter metal than the aloys mixed with the 50% coins. What I am saying is if the silver content is higher that would drop the weight if you get my drift. Also something about casting. If you cast an original the cast copy is usually smaller. tsuba - 2014-12-22 11:15:00 |
| 5314 | I wasn't thinking there'd be any more or less silver compared to normal - just that the arrangement of the different elements might not have been as even as it should be (i.e. with more silver near the surface and less of it nearer the centre). You might need to have a more detailed metal analysis performed if you really want to get to the bottom of this. translateltd - 2014-12-22 11:25:00 |
| 5315 | tsuba wrote: gammoner - 2014-12-22 11:25:00 |
| 5316 | Yes I think I will have to find out what the metal content is. tsuba - 2014-12-22 11:39:00 |
| 5317 | Spectrometer will give an exact reading and % of everything in its composition. gammoner - 2014-12-22 13:52:00 |
| 5318 | Thanks for that. Where could I send for testing. I tried finding the old DSIR but does not appear to exist anymore. tsuba - 2014-12-22 15:10:00 |
| 5319 | Have just sent an e mail to Xray Labs in Auckland to see if they can do. Will keep you posted. tsuba - 2014-12-22 16:20:00 |
| 5320 | tsuba wrote: , I can do for you free of charge if of help. gammoner - 2014-12-22 18:36:00 |
| 5321 | gammoner wrote:
Sounds good. How can I contact you Alan. tsuba - 2014-12-22 19:06:00 |
| 5322 | tsuba wrote:
Could put up a 50c auction or just contact one of the many traders we have had in common and ask them to pass on details. All the best. gammoner - 2014-12-22 20:48:00 |
| 5323 | acw, hosnz etc gammoner - 2014-12-22 20:49:00 |
| 5324 | gammoner wrote:
Hey, could I impose on you to test a ring I acquired a few years ago? Bit of a silly story, but a guy in Paris tried to pull one over on us. It was the old, "Oh, look, what's that on the ground? A gold ring, isn't that lucky! Want to buy it?" I knew better because I caught him out of the corner of my eye dropping it in the first place, but to make him go away and because he was trying so hard, I gave him eight or ten euros. I remain unconvinced, but it would be interesting to know. echoriath - 2014-12-22 22:13:00 |
| 5325 | Bet it was outside LV by the traffic lights. They are normally stamped 18ct often in two separate places but are still 100% brass. gammoner - 2014-12-22 22:44:00 |
| 5326 | Thanks for the heads up on the 2013 coins echoriath I searched a few bags today in my break and at home tonight. The quality of the 2013 $1 is rather shocking so far with a number of repeating errors from other years. I took photos of 3 additional main errors and loaded them on the coinerror site. Edited by mudeki at 11:07 pm, Mon 22 Dec mudeki - 2014-12-22 23:02:00 |
| 5327 | LV = Louis Vuitton? It was by the Arc de Triomphe, like, literally on one of the crosswalks right around the circle. It is indeed stamped 18k and also has a muddy, hard-to-ascertain hallmark. It almost looks like it's "783" or "753". The "18k" and hallmark (or whatever) are themselves not so much imprinted into the ring. Rather, the "18k" is level with the interior of the ring, so it's like the stamp is incuse. Hopefully it shows in the photo: http://trademe.tmcdn.co.nz/photoserver/full/353896965.jpg It's highly unlikely to be for real, and so not worth schlepping about unless you recognise the marks as legit. The inside of the ring looks weirdly marked up in a way no inside of a ring that's been worn should be. echoriath - 2014-12-22 23:17:00 |
| 5328 | mudeki wrote:
My pleasure, and thanks for credit on your site! I notice the same die cracks on your one. Does yours also have this cud on the back: http://trademe.tmcdn.co.nz/photoserver/full/353898102.jpg ? echoriath - 2014-12-22 23:24:00 |
| 5329 | echoriath wrote:
The coin in the photo does not but so far I have an even split 3 with 3 without. Thanks for pointing that out I have only had a quick look at the coins so far tying to identify a few faults before depositing the rest back at the bank tomorrow before the wife notices lol mudeki - 2014-12-22 23:38:00 |
| 5330 | I'm getting onto some friends in retail to start yanking the shiny $1 coins for me. echoriath - 2014-12-22 23:44:00 |
| 5331 | echoriath wrote:
Yes Louis V or anywhere else the tourists tend to stop lol. gammoner - 2014-12-22 23:50:00 |
| 5332 | echoriath wrote:
Could always ask at the bank if they have any bags with shiny $1 coins on both end of the rolls. ACM rolls at BNZ & ANZ branches may have them if they had to reorder in the last week. Might get some funny looks but if your close might be worth a go. Also worth asking for new banknotes this week ;-) 5's and 10's mainly we are getting the odd bundle in the original bands. I have a few stashed away for next payday lol. Interesting with that error you found is it appears it started as an indent on coins where I assume a piece of metal stuck to the die then after god knows how many coins it struck the piece fell off causing it to leave the nice shaped beauty spot indent on the die. mudeki - 2014-12-22 23:53:00 |
| 5333 | mudeki: I get funny looks the moment I walk in a bank anyway. I also have a friend who works at NZ Post/Kiwibank, so might pay to ask her to keep an eye out, but I will try BNZ & ANZ. Yes, gammoner, thanks for that. Certainly just another fakey fake. I like to think of the whole charade as just a bit of street theater as I was even onto him as he approached us at a funny angle, then dropped the ring, though I suppose giving anything for it just encourages the behaviour/scam. echoriath - 2014-12-23 00:58:00 |
| 5334 | Cripes, I almost forgot: Happy Festivus!! Hope everyone has erected their aluminium poles!! We'll just have to trust that everyone is doing their Feats of Strength. I wonder if we are brave enough for The Airing of Grievances in here.... echoriath - 2014-12-23 06:27:00 |
| 5335 | gammoner wrote:
Have sent a message to acw to pass on to you. I could not remember his e mail so sent him a message via an auction. tsuba - 2014-12-23 07:49:00 |
| 5336 | nice looking 1950 6p, don't you reckon? 822560350 dtpapa - 2014-12-23 07:55:00 |
| 5337 | tsuba wrote:
All good, I will contact them this morning. gammoner - 2014-12-23 08:05:00 |
| 5338 | #5327 - yes, it's meant to be 750 (18k = 75%) but very poor quality stamping. translateltd - 2014-12-23 08:21:00 |
| 5339 | The member deleted this message. tsuba - 2014-12-23 10:00:00 |
| 5340 | Canada has joined IOM, Gibraltar and others in issuing Christmas coins. Edited by alpha111 at 1:39 pm, Wed 24 Dec alpha111 - 2014-12-24 13:38:00 |
| 5341 | alpha111 wrote:
Are the design elements actually in relief below the colours so you'd still be left with something recognisable if the green came off? translateltd - 2014-12-24 14:18:00 |
| 5342 | muzz8 wrote:
Sorta Newbie question but what is a cud? brett21 - 2014-12-24 15:50:00 |
| 5343 | brett21 wrote:
It's a lump of metal sticking up from the surface of a coin, caused by a chip having come away from the die before striking. All the "goitres", "warts" and "moles" in the coins illustrated on mudeki's site above are examples. Some coins exhibit cuds in the loops of date digits, too, so the 3 of 2003 or the 5 of 2005 can experience "filling" caused by cuds. translateltd - 2014-12-24 16:10:00 |
| 5344 | brett21 wrote:
here you go >>> Edited by chefman1 at 4:18 pm, Wed 24 Dec chefman1 - 2014-12-24 16:15:00 |
| 5345 | Thanks for the answer and links! brett21 - 2014-12-24 20:07:00 |
| 5346 | I have a 2010 $1 New Zealand coin. The queen has a wart of her chin. Is this something I should put up for auction, worth anything? brett21 - 2014-12-24 21:36:00 |
| 5347 | The member deleted this message. muzz8 - 2014-12-25 02:34:00 |
| 5348 | muzz8 wrote:
haha cool, cheers, merry xmas! brett21 - 2014-12-25 11:33:00 |
| 5349 | brett21 wrote:
Newbie to coin collecting, or just in here? In any case, welcome! Everyone is free to come and go in here, no membership required. It's a great place to ask any and all questions about coins (and bank notes if that way inclined). There are lots of regulars (and irregulars!) with a wide range of knowledge. BTW, if you happen to wander in here and the welcome in the first post above is not at the top of the next page, feel free to cut and paste it in. brett21 wrote:
You could also try looking through expired auctions for some of the relevant search terms and see if anything comes up. To search expired auctions, go to the little carat (pointing downward) between the magnifying glass and the binoculars to the right of the search window. This way, you can see what things have sold for, or if they have been re-listed a number of times. echoriath - 2014-12-25 12:32:00 |
| 5350 | A classic little Christmas tune: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NrAwK9juhhY (Fairytale of New York by The Pogues). echoriath - 2014-12-25 12:34:00 |
