I have my stamp collection listed at an agreed value as part of my contents insurance. I listed my entire collection and had a recognized stamp dealer write a letter confirming the value of my collection. The insurance company was happy with this. The policy does state that they will pay out to a maximum of 75% of Stanley Gibbons catalogue value for any individual stamps or sets. Different insurance companies may have different policies. I hope that this is helpful. Generally household insurance will cover collections with a value up to $2000 without them being specifically listed.

stak - 2013-06-03 18:23:00

tmg wrote:

then they attempt to get muzzled on here by one or two of the usual suspects huh ? ;-)

Tread with care.Rabies could be a problem as well.

rebel58 - 2013-06-03 18:31:00

rebel58 wrote:

Tread with care.Rabies could be a problem as well.

well it is alleged to have claimed a few of the fake & more dubious suspects around - could there be more or just in the next round claim some of their supporters ? ;-)

tmg - 2013-06-03 18:37:00

I am so ashamed ,unrightfully helping to persecute the seller of dubious items and trying to defend the greedy fools that willfully bought the items .Shame on me and you tmg and the others that help expose this fraudster.
Hopefully he will find a friend to stay with in Rotorua and be able to sell more stamps.

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muzz8 - 2013-06-03 20:51:00

Can anybody give a value of a 5/- Mount Cook with a overprint of "The Farmers Co-Operate Auctioneering Co. NZ". (There is also a date shown but I can not make it out). I know it is a fiscal but not sure of the value. I have a 4/- Queen Victoria and a 2/- Milford Sound with this overprint on it. I also have a 2/- Queen Victoria and a 2/- milford sound with the overprint "The Farmers Co-Op Auctioneering Co. NZ.

teddybearlover - 2013-06-03 21:10:00

teddybearlover wrote:

Can anybody give a value of a 5/- Mount Cook with a overprint of "The Farmers Co-Operate Auctioneering Co. NZ". (There is also a date shown but I can not make it out). I know it is a fiscal but not sure of the value. I have a 4/- Queen Victoria and a 2/- Milford Sound with this overprint on it. I also have a 2/- Queen Victoria and a 2/- milford sound with the overprint "The Farmers Co-Op Auctioneering Co. NZ.

I doubt that they are overprints. more likely to be a rubber stamp applied on the stamp by hand rather than printed. Normal fiscal price for these so the 5/- Mt. cook would be worth $15 to $25, The long types perhaps $5 each and the 2/- Milford Sound around $5 too. Mind you its not easy to be precise without seeing how attractive or dreadful they look and this will certailny make a big difference,

kiwisteven - 2013-06-03 23:34:00

Thanks 'kiwisteven". You are correct. Not an overprint.A poor choice of words. It appears to be a "rubber stamp" as you implied. Light purple in colour. A good looking stamp.

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teddybearlover - 2013-06-04 16:32:00

Image as requested "muzz8" & "kiwisteven"
hope this works
http://images.trademe.co.nz/photoserver/full/269853871.jpg
http://images.trademe.co.nz/photoserver/full/269853850.jpg
I also collect these types of fiscals with this type of rubber stamping.

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teddybearlover - 2013-06-04 16:35:00

I have found another one, a 5/- Mount Cook, on this site but the price is very very high. Paid about $10 - $15 for each of them on the world auction site. Wish I could find more!!! (Hint for the dealers here)

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muzz8 - 2013-06-04 17:29:00

Sorry "muzz8" no gum on the backs.

Can you please tell me what the, for want of a better word, "postmark" of the 6d 1935 pictorial of the third line of the second scan is?

Also I would be interested in bidding on any that you put up for auction.

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muzz8 - 2013-06-04 20:14:00

muzz8 wrote:

6d harvesting says "the dominion" (wgtn paper?)

Hi "muzz8"
My copy states "The Dominion Motors Ltd"
http://images.trademe.co.nz/photoserver/full/269890322.jpg

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donaldo - 2013-06-05 15:53:00

I have just bought my first lot of social security stamps - am wondering how does one go about finding the value of them ... not that I expect anything special to be in them.

bdreid10 - 2013-06-06 13:17:00

bdreid10 wrote:

I have just bought my first lot of social security stamps - am wondering how does one go about finding the value of them ... not that I expect anything special to be in them.

Kiwi Cat of New Zealand Revenue and Railway Stamps 5th Edition.
Copies are for sale on Trademe.
Wages Tax Stamps are very collectable and some command very good prices.

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donaldo - 2013-06-07 12:02:00

Thanks for that rebel58, now another question - I have been looking for and I have heard very hard to get the thematic stanley gibbons catalog for collecting railways on stamps. I did fine a couple on another overseas site but they would not ship to NZ. Any suggestions as I fear that those who have this catalog want it and will not part with it which is understandable.

bdreid10 - 2013-06-09 09:00:00

bdreid10 wrote:

Thanks for that rebel58, now another question - I have been looking for and I have heard very hard to get the thematic stanley gibbons catalog for collecting railways on stamps. I did fine a couple on another overseas site but they would not ship to NZ. Any suggestions as I fear that those who have this catalog want it and will not part with it which is understandable.

One of the nz distributors for Stanley Gibbons sells on Trademe (Philatelic Distributors )and a question on one of their auctions should see you right.Other than that 2nd hand copies do come up and you might get lucky.A lot of dealers do buy collections that include Catalogs so you might be able to pick one up for a reasonable price.

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donaldo - 2013-06-12 15:15:00

bdreid10 wrote:

Thanks for that rebel58, now another question - I have been looking for and I have heard very hard to get the thematic stanley gibbons catalog for collecting railways on stamps. I did fine a couple on another overseas site but they would not ship to NZ. Any suggestions as I fear that those who have this catalog want it and will not part with it which is understandable.

A trick if yu can with this, is have the item shipped to soemone you know in a place they will ship it too, then have them send it to NZ.i HAVE HAD FREINDS DO THIS FOR us PURCHASES, OF COURSE YOU HAVE TO KNOW SOMEONE IN THAT COUNTRY....oPPS CAPS LOCK, BUT ANYWAY, THATS WHY THEY INVENTED FACEBOOK, SO YOU CAN FIND EPOPLE FROM YOUR PAST TO SUE FOR POSTAGE ...

bca - 2013-06-13 07:44:00

Well that was a horribly written post and meant use, not "sue". damn typing skills.

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muzz8 - 2013-06-13 07:50:00

bca, I have just had my early morning laugh.

minimoe - 2013-06-13 07:54:00

The Christchurch Stamp & Postcard Fair will be on this Saturday at the Philatelic Centre, 67 Mandeville St in Riccarton. Come and meet your favorite Trademe sellers or buyers 9am to noon.

rebel58 - 2013-06-13 16:08:00

rebel58 wrote:

The Christchurch Stamp & Postcard Fair will be on this Saturday at the Philatelic Centre, 67 Mandeville St in Riccarton. Come and meet your favorite Trademe sellers or buyers 9am to noon.

Yes, I will be there, should be another good day.

twg1935 - 2013-06-14 09:06:00

whats more honest / reliable when selling true bulk amounts, selling by weight or selling be estimated number of stamps? Wasn't sure if to put 1.8kg on paper or guesstimate a number of stamps.....

bca - 2013-06-14 15:07:00

bca wrote:

whats more honest / reliable when selling true bulk amounts, selling by weight or selling be estimated number of stamps? Wasn't sure if to put 1.8kg on paper or guesstimate a number of stamps.....

Best to do both and that way people have the best idea of what you are offering. make sure you also have a scan of picture as many people won't bid on something they can't see.

kiwisteven - 2013-06-14 20:29:00

rebel58 wrote:

The Christchurch Stamp & Postcard Fair will be on this Saturday at the Philatelic Centre, 67 Mandeville St in Riccarton. Come and meet your favorite Trademe sellers or buyers 9am to noon.

I always get there early only to find plenty of people already there to snap up the bargains. Mind you if you are late then you might get a desparate seller!

kiwisteven - 2013-06-14 20:31:00

Hi twg1935, I am somewhat puzzeled by the listing you have of this stamp. I can find no info for this "error" and it appears this could be more of a poor rendering of the P. Can you advise where you got the "error" info as I would be most interested. Thanks

http://images.trademe.co.nz/photoserver/full/271206514.jpg

bambam - 2013-06-15 15:31:00

I have over 300 "error" stamps, but that is very interesting. Has anyone seen one similar b4?

bambam - 2013-06-15 17:37:00

A gremlin Flaw ,more than likely not constant possible under inking or damage to the Printing plate.Nice Print fault.A Basic knowledge of the printing process would be of advantage
Campbell Patterson only list what they feel like and are not even a good indication of print flaws.
Google or your local stamp Club/Society would help.
Some stamps can be plated into whole sheets by using print flaws/Faults.

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rebel58 - 2013-06-15 18:55:00

Hey Rebel58, would you say it was a 2 or 5 numeral transposed for a P?

bambam - 2013-06-15 19:10:00

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Hi twg1935, I am somewhat puzzeled by the listing you have of this stamp. I can find no info for this "error" and it appears this could be more of a poor rendering of the P. Can you advise where you got the "error" info as I would be most interested. Thanks

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Hello I would suggest that 99% of printing flaws or errors, caused by plate wear, under inking, overinking, foreign body etc aren't listed anywhere. Still as with all collecting something different is always of interest to some collectors at a sensible price. Part of the enjoyment of the hobby. Every person has the right to bid or not. I have been contacted as I state in auction, from other revenue collectors advising that they had similar copies from later printings of 1d and presumed caused by combination of under inking and plate wear? Regards Gary.

twg1935 - 2013-06-16 00:01:00

twg1935 wrote:

I have been contacted as I state in auction, from other revenue collectors advising that they had similar copies from later printings of 1d and presumed caused by combination of under inking and plate wear? Regards Gary.

Hi Gary, Thanks for your reply. The reason I ask about this auction was in your auction you state that it is NOT a "P" and that it is either a 2 or an inverted 5, that has been transposed for the "P". But you have been contacted as your quote above, confirming this as probable plate wear or under inking, which would suggest your listing could be somewhat misleading. I cannot imagine that you would be "mistaken" with regard to identifying this stamp and would appreciate any info that you have confirming the authenticity of this error. I know there are many people out there that would say and sell anything for a fast buck. I have bought from you in the past and been very happy. I would actually pay a considerable amount for that stamp if I could see that it was a genuine "error" I have emailed this to others and am receiving some replies. I have also posted it on other stamp forums for some feedback. Regards Anthony.

bambam - 2013-06-16 12:13:00

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Hi Gary, Thanks for your reply. The reason I ask about this auction was in your auction you state that it is NOT a "P" and that it is either a 2 or an inverted 5, that has been transposed for the "P". But you have been contacted as your quote above, confirming this as probable plate wear or under inking, which would suggest your listing could be somewhat misleading. I cannot imagine that you would be "mistaken" with regard to identifying this stamp and would appreciate any info that you have confirming the authenticity of this error. I know there are many people out there that would say and sell anything for a fast buck. I have bought from you in the past and been very happy. I would actually pay a considerable amount for that stamp if I could see that it was a genuine "error" I have emailed this to others and am receiving some replies. I have also posted it on other stamp forums for some feedback. Regards Anthony.

Hello Anthony Maybe the answer to your question, is that it doesn't show as a normal "P" for reasons as stated in earlier post, I will let you decide. I take offence at comment that some people will sell anything for a fast buck, if directed at me. I consider myself an honest trader. Like lots of items listed on Trade Me it is buyers choice whether to bid or not. If you had questions for me you have the option at the bottom of listing to ask them, the same as any other person. If an item is causing you such angst, you can report it to Trade Me. Regards Gary.

twg1935 - 2013-06-16 14:14:00

Hi again Gary, I did not put the question on the auction so as not to put any buyers off. I thought I was doing the right thing by you. Report it to TradeMe! As for fast buck sellers, you have seen the listings where a minor "colour shift" is being sold as an "error". I agree it is a buyers choice, if, they have the correct information. I am disappointed that you have still not replied as to why you are convinced this is a "2" or inverted "5" and in your words that are quoted on your auction, "definitely not a P". This forum is about sharing and learning, I would have thought some others would be interested to know also. I have received numerous emails re this thread, and to quote one of them, "I'm not getting into this one, but I look forward to his answer re: provenance, it's new to me!" That's what its about Gary, simply...why is it a 2 or 5 and not a P. I would like to know, I might be sitting on a fortune!! Kindest regards, Anthony

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bambam - 2013-06-16 14:57:00

Not referring to any specific image, it would be educational to have an image rater on this site !?

philafarinz - 2013-06-17 11:32:00

I think that would be a great idea, however I think it would end up with too many "experts" as can happen in many club forums. The best advise/knowledge base I find is here. http://www.stampboards.com/

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donaldo - 2013-06-17 12:34:00

I have many poor printing of overprints and wonder whether a poor overprint would rate as a financial gain. Also, as a respected authority within the stamp world, would you donaldo care to express your opinion as to the stamp in question. I, and others would value your comments. Again, this is what this forum is about. Learning and expanding all our pooled knowledge.

bambam - 2013-06-17 12:42:00

Hi all,

as per above debate. I think epoples feedback says a lot too. I have "wronged" people in various ways at time, but as the store in wellignton says, its the putting right that counts. There are some with unrealistic expectations or who failt o read an auction and understand terms and conditions e.g. a listed postage price and then complain about postage. There is a very true saying, you do not have to bid and if you do, so long as what is described is not inaccurate, then it is buyer beware. If as a seller you make a mistake, then own the mistake and make it right for the buyer e.g. I sometimes get tangled in all my postage and buyers get the wrong item. I had one guy, not happy with brown spots, and as I had not said there were any and they were not possible to be seen, refunded upon return of the goods. I think you have to do unto others in trades and you would want other to do to you (hmmm almost sounds religious LOL). Anyway, happy messageboarding all.

bca - 2013-06-17 12:55:00

philafarinz wrote:

Not referring to any specific image, it would be educational to have an image rater on this site !?

To the above posts, that may be a bit off the mark as what I intended - to clarify.

An Image Rater in a listing - 5 Stars - you select which how many stars would be appropriate for the image placed.

A 5 Star evaluation for a good clear large image or
a 1 star for a poor and hardly visible image.

More than one person could evaluate giving the average result.

If the image is good the rating would be high, if not many will pass listing. Is that not educational ?

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donaldo - 2013-06-17 15:58:00