THE NEW COIN CLUB
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| 5201 | Welcome to the Coin Club. We are an assortment of newbies and oldbies, amateurs and experts with questions and answers for oldbies and newbies, amateurs and experts in coin collecting, also known as numismatics. Whether you are just getting started, have been collecting for years or have simply found some old coins about the place that you’d like to sell, this is the place to ask your questions. No one has all the answers, and you may get five differing answers to the same question, yet each may be right in a manner of speaking, especially if opinions are involved. Opinions often vary. If you receive no answer to your query within 48 hours, please ask again. chefman1 - 2014-12-13 11:52:00 |
| 5202 | Hi, does anyone have any information about new zealand coin sets, made by 35 - 2014-12-13 13:12:00 |
| 5203 | Wayte Raymond made push-in albums to store series of coins. Not sure if his were the first but he must have been one of the earliest (1940s-50s?). Others for the NZ series were Dansco and of course John Bertrand in the late 1960s. The Protectus albums for NZ decimal coins continue the tradition. This Wikipedia item suggests Raymond was the first: translateltd - 2014-12-13 14:00:00 |
| 5204 | iNTERESTING AUCTION [Listing #: 817989329] 1941 florin ave/cir condition for Edited by chefman1 at 3:27 pm, Sat 13 Dec chefman1 - 2014-12-13 15:24:00 |
| 5205 | those vintage playboys are of great cultural heritage!! dtpapa - 2014-12-13 17:58:00 |
| 5206 | This message was deleted. muzz8 - 2014-12-13 18:17:00 |
| 5207 | Thanks for the information translateltd, one more question, would the coins in these sets come from unc coins taken out of circulation? 35 - 2014-12-13 21:10:00 |
| 5208 | 35 wrote:
As I understand it, the boards/albums would have been sold empty, just like the modern "Protectus" ones, and collectors would fill the gaps themselves. What they filled them with was their choice, based on whatever they had or could afford. There would be no guarantee of quality or consistency of the coins in the albums as a result. translateltd - 2014-12-13 21:48:00 |
| 5209 | This message was deleted. oldecurb - 2014-12-13 23:03:00 |
| 5210 | oldecurb wrote: chefman1 - 2014-12-13 23:17:00 |
| 5211 | Listing #: 818391995 1937 half/crown in almost/uncirculated condition YES OR NO??? chefman1 - 2014-12-13 23:53:00 |
| 5212 | what about this one? 817961059 dtpapa - 2014-12-14 07:57:00 |
| 5213 | chefman1 wrote:
Far from it. translateltd - 2014-12-14 10:12:00 |
| 5214 | dtpapa wrote:
He clean's is coins...lol chefman1 - 2014-12-14 10:13:00 |
| 5215 | dtpapa wrote:
Cleaning residues by the letters on the reverse (by ND of ZEALAND, and H and C of HALF CROWN in particular) and look at the blurring/merging of the lines coming out of the mouths of the masks at 9:00 and 3:00 in particular. Clarke picks those as key wear diagnostics. translateltd - 2014-12-14 10:15:00 |
| 5216 | This message was deleted. muzz8 - 2014-12-14 10:31:00 |
| 5217 | This message was deleted. muzz8 - 2014-12-14 10:35:00 |
| 5218 | chefman1 wrote:
it looks to me as the same coin he purchased from a dealer as ef I rember as i almost purchased it and was waiting for it to resurface but not going to bid at 4x the price mudeki - 2014-12-14 10:41:00 |
| 5219 | The member deleted this message. muzz8 - 2014-12-14 10:45:00 |
| 5220 | I was looking for the rule that says you are not supposed to post coins of the collectible variety, but this was all I could find, mentioned in list of prohibited items on the NZ post website "Coins, currency, or vouchers/gift" Now, I think you would have a case if you were to argue there is some ambiguity here, as coins, of the collectible numismatic variety, are not in any way similar to vouchers/gift, as could be argued for currency and vouchers/gift. It looks out of place, if coins in this context is to mean any numismatic items. So are NZ post pulling a swifty, since they clearly do not mind if you do post coins? Edited by dtpapa at 10:56 am, Sun 14 Dec dtpapa - 2014-12-14 10:51:00 |
| 5221 | mudeki wrote:
Yes you are right on the nose on that one...had it on my watch list...when a bulk chefman1 - 2014-12-14 10:52:00 |
| 5222 | someone should start an NZ coin grading service!! dtpapa - 2014-12-14 10:56:00 |
| 5223 | dtpapa wrote:
I think the international posting rules go back a century or more, when coins really did imply "money" much more than now. They need overhauling but which numismatic entity is going to get governments worldwide on-side to achieve it? We're fortunate that NZ Post observes the spirit rather than the letter of the law, at least for international consignments, as long as we abide by their guidelines with the RNSNZ/NZNDA exemption that was negotiated a few years ago. translateltd - 2014-12-14 11:01:00 |
| 5224 | so if your coins get lost, stolen in the post, what's the deal compensation wise? dtpapa - 2014-12-14 11:07:00 |
| 5225 | dtpapa wrote:
If they're lost in NZ you have no comeback; but you should get compensation if you have satisfied all the requirements of the exemption for international posting. translateltd - 2014-12-14 11:12:00 |
| 5226 | why not for in NZ, the rule seems ambiguous at least? As I said, NZ post trying to pull a swifty!! dtpapa - 2014-12-14 11:23:00 |
| 5227 | it's funny how nz post can send out coin-sets from there web-site...if lost nz post just send out a new set ...so they are breaking there own rules...which i point out to them. Edited by chefman1 at 11:41 am, Sun 14 Dec chefman1 - 2014-12-14 11:39:00 |
| 5228 | Listing #: 821565057 1942 broken-back shilling coin at $190.00 for ave/cir condition ...your dreaming chefman1 - 2014-12-14 11:49:00 |
| 5229 | maybe hold on to it for another 20 thousand years dtpapa - 2014-12-14 11:56:00 |
| 5230 | dtpapa wrote:
The ambiguity in my mind is more in relation to demonetised "currency", which is no longer really money, right? This is a bit of a sticky wicket too, though, since all US coinage, for example, remains legal tender. In many other places older coins have been superseded by new systems, the old ones being demonetised. Arguably a bit of a nightmare in some sense, although either something is legal tender or it ain't. Once it's not, it's a collectible just like any other. Apologies to those who have already heard this, but another funny wrinkle happened a few years ago as I was getting ready to send a large letter (half an A4 size with a notebook page of sleeves filled with various copper and silver pieces (mostly French) and folded in half) to my nephew in France. I was just buying the postage and the birthday card at the counter and had laid my homemade envelope on the counter with the coins inside in their page. The postie picked it up and looked in before I could do anything to politely stop her, not that I could see any reason to do so anyway. She started querying my trying to send "bullion", saying this might contravene the law. Apparently it used to, but "it's ok to do now at the sender's risk" was the conclusion that her supervisor came to. The focus of attention was a couple of well worn early 20th century one franc pieces in no great shape. So they knowingly let me ship demonetised currency at standard international letter rates. In the process of discovering that there's no rule against sending bullion, we discovered that sending prophylactics to the US apparently DOES violate US law! echoriath - 2014-12-14 12:13:00 |
| 5231 | dtpapa wrote:
This should show a return in another 100,000 years if I am fortunate enough to win it . 818430277 gammoner - 2014-12-14 12:15:00 |
| 5232 | chefman1 wrote:
And then handles supposedly BU coins with bare hands! echoriath - 2014-12-14 12:16:00 |
| 5233 | echoriath wrote:
yes he does it all the time with his coins.. chefman1 - 2014-12-14 12:22:00 |
| 5234 | The issue for me with NZ post and coins is why won't they give compensation? Would it really hurt them that much, or am I missing something here? dtpapa - 2014-12-14 13:01:00 |
| 5235 | Because it comes under collectible's...anything under that heading they [nz post] chefman1 - 2014-12-14 13:11:00 |
| 5236 | can't find where it says that https://www.nzpost.co.nz/home/sending-within-nz/compensation dtpapa - 2014-12-14 13:38:00 |
| 5237 | can't send stamps (unused), so used stamps are okay? dtpapa - 2014-12-14 13:42:00 |
| 5238 | dtpapa wrote:
It was on [Fairgo]....new world mini toys are collectible's..NZ post will not pay out chefman1 - 2014-12-14 13:51:00 |
| 5239 | chefman1 wrote:
I guess the thing with those new world mini toys is that they haven't really got a value, other than what is paid for them on trademe. Although I suppose the same argument could then apply to many things on trademe. Model trains for instance. It seems like a catch-it-all clause. Surely there must be some way to insure a parcel for what it is worth, otherwise NZ post should not allow you to send it? Edited by dtpapa at 2:05 pm, Sun 14 Dec dtpapa - 2014-12-14 14:04:00 |
| 5240 | We had a case earlier in the year of an acknowledged slip by the courier, who accidentally delivered an item for us to a government department, which then technically became guilty of theft by not returning it, but I won't go there :-) The courier company said we could put in a claim with them, and then they would recover the value from the courier himself. I figured a claim was risky so suggested we just cut out the middleman and have the courier settle directly. Everyone agreed and it was settled. Thankfully it was a relatively small sum. translateltd - 2014-12-14 14:06:00 |
| 5241 | dtpapa wrote: lester36 - 2014-12-14 14:07:00 |
| 5242 | LEECHES...yes you can send them in the post....i lol when fairgo said that. [Surely there must be some way to insure a parcel for what it is worth] Edited by chefman1 at 2:22 pm, Sun 14 Dec chefman1 - 2014-12-14 14:20:00 |
| 5243 | lester36 wrote:
I wonder if you can ship them in the same container? Could be a whole new reality show: Put a camera in the box and see who survives the trip.... echoriath - 2014-12-14 14:27:00 |
| 5244 | dtpapa wrote: duanmu - 2014-12-14 16:42:00 |
| 5245 | dtpapa wrote:
Would be nice but would anyone pay the fees or would we all agree with the grade given like we do with the US based grading companies. Personally I would be more interested in someone releasing a photo grading guide to help people understand what to look for. The problem is this varies year to year and for each coin type. The other thing is this would take a decent amount of time with no profit in it for the person undertaking it. I could probably take some photos of the later pre decimal coins to compare grade with but the earlier stuff I would struggle for true unc coins. Would have to pry the camera out of my wife's hands first shes busy taking photos of the new addition Something similar was published in an Australian coin and banknote mag about 5-7 years ago where they graded GeorgeV Aussie Florins. They had photos of coins in each grade with description then lined up the grades in a single photo to compare http://trademe.tmcdn.co.nz/photoserver/full/352421128.jpg mudeki - 2014-12-14 17:53:00 |
| 5246 | The benefit of NZ grading would be protection from buying duds. Coins that have been cleaned, or have surface hairlines. I've been looking at my coins using a magnifier with led, and a disturbing number of them do show signs of having been cleaned or polished (even in quite good photos surface hairlines can be tricky to spot). The grading fees should be much less than for posting off to ngc or pcgs for grading. And safer! Edited by dtpapa at 10:17 pm, Sun 14 Dec dtpapa - 2014-12-14 22:16:00 |
| 5247 | dtpapa wrote:
Both for $10.50 lester36 - 2014-12-15 19:33:00 |
| 5248 | 48 chefman1 - 2014-12-15 23:53:00 |
| 5249 | 49 chefman1 - 2014-12-15 23:54:00 |
| 5250 | 50 half-hundy turn page for alan chefman1 - 2014-12-15 23:54:00 |
