Wanting a SIMPLE app or program
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| 1 | Not sure if it would be a program or app? Full screen alphabet. Touch letter brings up customers. Touch customer name- brings up either a number in green or red add number or subtract number depending on prepay or loyalty. Nothing else required. loyalty resets after 9+1 free . Prepay subtract each coffee until new "card" purchased! Idea on price please! bobinnz - 2021-10-11 16:42:00 |
| 2 | Think we went thru this exact same scenario in a previous thread of yours? nice_lady - 2021-10-11 17:10:00 |
| 3 | https://www.trademe.co.nz/Community/MessageBoard/Messages.as Why do you want anyone to repeat their advice? nice_lady - 2021-10-11 17:12:00 |
| 4 | The only folks that could give you a mildly accurate estimate are developers - you need to ask them. Maybe one of these... king1 - 2021-10-11 17:27:00 |
| 5 | Thanx for the help! king1 wrote: bobinnz - 2021-10-11 18:46:00 |
| 6 | bobinnz wrote:
It wont be anywhere near cheap, (thousands probably), and as someone said in the other thread you started there are options for such things already available through your eftpos supplier. nice_lady - 2021-10-11 18:50:00 |
| 7 | I want to know how much. The options with the eftpos is NOT what we want, Too much useless info. nice_lady wrote: bobinnz - 2021-10-11 18:57:00 |
| 8 | You should have simply resserected your old thread so that people didn't try to offer you the same or similar advice. That's why I linked it here again. As for the EFTPOS not suiting you, again, we're not psychic. Perhaps you could have given that info as well . nice_lady - 2021-10-11 19:31:00 |
| 9 | How about the app I linked for you at the play store, already pre built? Didn't suit you? nice_lady - 2021-10-11 19:32:00 |
| 10 | There are a huge amount of apps or programs out there, are you wanting to pay for something once or do you want a subscription based model? loud_37 - 2021-10-11 20:53:00 |
| 11 | Maybe this would be clearer. Full screen alphabet like a keyboard but in alphabetical order. Touch a letter and a screen comes up with all customers names starting with that letter. Touch customers name screen with amount of coffees left(prepay) or number of coffees purchased. button to revert to alphabet. Surely this is not a huge thing to do? I am trying to learn to do it myself but at 55 and after a stroke it is proving a little testing!! bobinnz - 2021-10-12 13:43:00 |
| 12 | What if I walk up and want my remaining prepaid balance refunded? What if Joe walks up and gives my name, how will you handle it when I arrive later and find my credit is gone? gyrogearloose - 2021-10-12 13:55:00 |
| 13 | Google "No-Code" app development. pcle - 2021-10-12 15:17:00 |
| 14 | bobinnz wrote:
Maybe this could be done in MS Excel or similar? tygertung - 2021-10-12 15:32:00 |
| 15 | tygertung wrote: pcle - 2021-10-12 15:53:00 |
| 16 | so you are looking for an app / program that will run on your / coffee shop device that keeps track of punters coffee purchases / count.... as opposed to an app running on the punters device, that they scan a qr code or similar, everytime they pick up a coffee.... onl_148 - 2021-10-12 16:02:00 |
| 17 | Op said "I am trying to learn to do it myself ". I did suggest this would be a HUGE learning curve, (in the other thread). I also linked to an Android app on the play store which seems to fit the bill at a glance. The OP never mentioned even looking at that. OP I doubt you'd be able to teach yourself the skills to use Android Studio fast enough. In what way, with what app creation method are you trying to learn? nice_lady - 2021-10-12 16:13:00 |
| 18 | And yeah I even started to create something in excel but again it got complicated fast & won't be easy. Much simpler to grab a ready to go app. Edited by nice_lady at 4:39 pm, Tue 12 Oct nice_lady - 2021-10-12 16:38:00 |
| 19 | A few thoughts on the matter... it is not actually just a simple request... and then, given the system you have requested/developed goes ahead... I think this system itself is ripe for manipulation, it basically relies on the honesty of whoever is using it. It might work for a one man band, but I believe the reason for loyalty cards or apps is it requires/provides a cross reference to the actual purchase... it could also be a bit of double handling as this system will presumably be tracking much the same info as the POS system - presumably you have to track the customer prepayments in the accounts/POS somewhere as well... The answer to your question doesn't change, it is way more complicated than you think it is. Edited by king1 at 5:43 pm, Tue 12 Oct king1 - 2021-10-12 17:38:00 |
| 20 | Well I could do that App for a Windows tablet for $700. Full screen alphabet. Touch letter brings up customers. Touch customer name- brings up either a number in green or red add number or subtract number depending on prepay or loyalty. You supply the list of Names and I will do the rest. duncb - 2021-10-12 18:42:00 |
| 21 | I think they have a variable customer base list and want it so that the names can be added or removed as necessary. You talking a spreadsheet app ? Sounds pretty reasonable if it does whats needed alright. nice_lady - 2021-10-12 18:49:00 |
| 22 | A stand alone app. No spreadsheet rubbish. duncb - 2021-10-12 22:05:00 |
| 23 | As a developer of this sort of app, I can say that your fundamental issue is that you need to get someone to do a proper analysis and consider all of the likely possibilities. You also need to clearly define wether or not you wish to expand it as your concept expands (most users do this once they discover what is possible) and thus the initial system design needs to allow for such expansion. In $$ terms, if you want it to work properly then $6-8k would be a ball-park figure. If you are not willing to spend the time on the system design and just want to employ a coder to bash it together then don't expect it to work the first time round and expect to pay someone to pick up the job and start all over. The bottom line is that a decent analyst/system designer will cost you $80-120/hr and a decent coder would be $70-100/hr. Wouldn't it be easier, cheaper, and safer to stick to the traditional coffee-card method that they all use so well? Edited by tegretol at 11:35 pm, Tue 12 Oct tegretol - 2021-10-12 23:33:00 |
| 24 | You could post the job on one of the Job boards. pcle - 2021-10-13 10:22:00 |
| 25 | Would we be able to add(necessary) or delete(not really necessary) customers as required? We basically have maybe 150 regular customers. duncb wrote: bobinnz - 2021-10-13 10:46:00 |
| 26 | Sorry just reread and see it was for windows and we have an ipad! bobinnz wrote: bobinnz - 2021-10-13 10:48:00 |
| 27 | Okay. You will need to say it is for an Ipad when you ask for quotes. You will also say that you need to Add and Delete Customer. Are the Names going to be kept on the Ipad or on another computer? When you add a customer does it need to check if that name already exists? Does it need to keep a log of all the transactions? What happens if someone steals the IPad? Anything else? All of this is added work. I have done DOS programming and 25 years of Windows Apps. I can produce Apps like this on Windows quite quickly but I don't do anything for Ipads. It is quite a bit more work for an Ipad so you will need to look for an IOS developer. There are sites where you can ask for freelancers to do the work and it can work out quite reasonable. However you will need to be very specific. It is like building a house. If you want to change something from the original plans it will end up being very costly. duncb - 2021-10-13 14:02:00 |
| 28 | duncb wrote: Especially if the change involves the foundations, and you've already completed the first level. gyrogearloose - 2021-10-13 14:25:00 |
| 29 | gyrogearloose wrote: Code it in something like Go Lang. iPad compiler or Windows. Has builtin DB. Single .exe file. pcle - 2021-10-13 14:43:00 |
| 30 | If you want to give it a go creating something try https://www.appsheet.com/ I use this for a lot of apps. loud_37 - 2021-10-13 18:27:00 |
| 31 | duncb wrote: That's why a well trained analyst/system designer is required. Coding is the easy part. I'd say stick to cards/manual system unless you're keen to spend some continuous coin. tegretol - 2021-10-13 19:06:00 |
| 32 | Thanx to those that helped found something that looks promising!! bobinnz - 2021-10-13 19:11:00 |
| 33 | bobinnz wrote:
An index book and a pencil?? skull - 2021-10-14 07:40:00 |
| 34 | Hell of a lot cheaper and very simple. Like the Loyalty cards really. Simple & cheap. With a tech solution - it's great so long as there are no issues. As a simple loyalty process it's less fraught with bad potentials. If you however, as the OP want's also keep a data base of PRE-PAID drinks etc on there then you're going to need some sort of efficient and trustworthy backup process running 'live' at all times, as that is actual customers money pre-paid to you and you are charged with a duty of care to ensure that there are no problems. If you have for example 20 customers who have pre-paid purchases from you and this info is stored on the device only and the device gets broken, stolen or whatever then you're likely to encounter some really pissed off customers if you can't provide them with accurate and timely use of their funds. Personally I think that makes it much more complicated. Edited by nice_lady at 7:59 am, Thu 14 Oct nice_lady - 2021-10-14 07:52:00 |
