I use win 11 right now
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| 1 | I did read about what they are up to. and since w10 64 crap never worked right for most programmes without the use of compatibility config B$. I decided to upgrade to w11 beta before that door shuts and you have to pay for the crap and because linux WLT will definet be included. intrade - 2021-07-05 13:19:00 |
| 2 | intrade wrote:
This should be good. Please share with the rest of us! cube_guy - 2021-07-05 13:38:00 |
| 3 | Well you seen all the post about w11. What did read it will be discontinued and if you do not have good hardware you can not upgrade . Sort of read you then have to buy the new version. and only good fast processors can upgrade. Along the lines. And you can join windows insider program from w10 but that maybe closing off in the future. So selected beta full testing DEV and upgraded and its definitely called windows 11. This can of course change i think windows vista was called Longhorn once. intrade - 2021-07-05 13:47:00 |
| 4 | Is W11 better than Linux? tygertung - 2021-07-05 16:21:00 |
| 5 | tygertung wrote: the equally vacuous answer to your question - yes king1 - 2021-07-05 16:27:00 |
| 6 | Ransomware runs well on W11. spyware - 2021-07-05 16:37:00 |
| 7 | spyware wrote: viruses are for windows The original os was a a useless mess that micro bill licensed To IBM Watch "the pirates of silicone valley" intrade - 2021-07-05 17:31:00 |
| 8 | king1 wrote:
Hahaha perfect word selection, 100 points Edited by ronaldo8 at 6:03 pm, Mon 5 Jul ronaldo8 - 2021-07-05 18:02:00 |
| 9 | king1 wrote:
I would like to know what intrade thinks. tygertung - 2021-07-05 21:13:00 |
| 10 | tygertung wrote:
*Brave* zirconium - 2021-07-06 07:43:00 |
| 11 | intrade wrote:
If its crap , why are you bothering ? Just makes no sense at all .I have never had an issue with Windows running anything myself docpc - 2021-07-06 11:20:00 |
| 12 | intrade wrote:
Whats "linux WLT" ? nzoomed - 2021-07-06 11:31:00 |
| 13 | intrade wrote: The lines outside here are very fast, the windows can get in and out very soon but how I know if process is quicking enouf? tegretol - 2021-07-06 11:45:00 |
| 14 | nzoomed wrote: king1 - 2021-07-06 14:40:00 |
| 15 | king1 wrote:
We have different linux OS on each computer except for our two teen sons who won't shift from Windows. I haven't looked back since, easy updates and you can configure. Unlike Windows who will always own your software, Linux is yours to do as you please. lsakb - 2021-07-06 21:38:00 |
| 16 | lsakb wrote: cool story, somewhat factually incorrect but still cool. Nice getting to know your family as well. king1 - 2021-07-06 21:56:00 |
| 17 | king1 wrote: Your sacrcasm superceeds the robboff that Windoze is by a million miles. tegretol - 2021-07-06 23:02:00 |
| 18 | tegretol wrote: no spell check in linux? king1 - 2021-07-06 23:30:00 |
| 19 | The previous owner is correct. Linux is generally easier to use, faster, updates are much quicker and easier, and it is much more configurable. tygertung - 2021-07-07 08:08:00 |
| 20 | tygertung wrote: ignoring the fact that most of that is subjective, and debatable, how is a linux based distro much more configurable? king1 - 2021-07-07 08:29:00 |
| 21 | On a Linux based distribution everything can be changed. You can configure the desktop environment as you please, even completely change the desktop environment, You can change out every aspect of the operating system to whatever you like. It is all completely modular so any part of the system can be changed just as you like. The updates are faster though and won't impact the shut downs and restarts like Windows does after some of the updates. I used Windows as well as Linux so am familiar with the process. tygertung - 2021-07-07 10:09:00 |
| 22 | What is your interpretation of what a Windows update looks like these days? Do you think it is not configurable, interrupts your work whenever it wants and takes your system offline for hours at a time? Windows updates are not like this at all. cube_guy - 2021-07-07 10:31:00 |
| 23 | Ubuntu sends a notification when it has updates. trade4us2 - 2021-07-07 10:57:00 |
| 24 | It pops up in the taskbar for me when I have a Windows update and I can then choose when it installs? Is that not the same thing? Also, I would imagine there would be a lot going on if you were trying to erase a whole operating system? Edited by cube_guy at 11:02 am, Wed 7 Jul cube_guy - 2021-07-07 11:02:00 |
| 25 | cube_guy wrote:
Linux Mint does not interrupt at all for updates, Ubuntu interrupts slightly, and Windows almost hangs the whole machine. trade4us2 - 2021-07-07 11:41:00 |
| 26 | trade4us2 wrote:
I guess we can disagree. A Windows feature update will be the biggest update you get, and will require the most time and a restart of the machine. These are supplemented by periodic smaller updates which may require a restart and some which won't. These smaller updates do not cause my machine to hang at all or interrupt what I am doing but I also have modern and high performing hardware, so maybe I am lucky. Edited by cube_guy at 11:55 am, Wed 7 Jul cube_guy - 2021-07-07 11:54:00 |
| 27 | The big windows updates cause a big delay when shutting down and restarting. I guess if you have a real high end machine it won't take too long, but on an average machine it can be quite a long delay. tygertung - 2021-07-07 12:08:00 |
| 28 | tygertung wrote: and we all know your definition of an 'average' machine? 10 years old and bottom of the barrel when it was new... Your ever so slightly biased perception of windows machines and the update process really is not the reality of what average users see these days... If by 'big windows updates' you mean the feature updates, well they are basically a once or twice a year upgrade that are essentially an OS reinstall, so yes, they take a little bit of time Edited by king1 at 12:38 pm, Wed 7 Jul king1 - 2021-07-07 12:25:00 |
| 29 | tygertung wrote: oh your talking about actually changing the OS itself. You can have that win - i'm not entirely sure that would be a good idea for the average user. I thought you were referring to the ability to configure the existing OS as it stands, which windows does equally well, probably better. Edited by king1 at 12:49 pm, Wed 7 Jul king1 - 2021-07-07 12:35:00 |
| 30 | I wonder when the last time these Linux users actually used a Windows Computer .Installing windows on my pc from scratch takes a massive 8 Minutes from boot to done .Installing updates that require a boot maybe 2minutes ( no time at all) or a massive 5minutes . 3 year old pc , nothing spectacular with the computer , everything works . If by 'big windows updates' you mean the feature updates ......... um if you call 5 to 8 Minutes a long time sure docpc - 2021-07-07 12:45:00 |
| 31 | king1 wrote:
No same OS, different desktop environment. I highly doubt that the Windows OS can be configured differently in any meaningful way, perhaps you can change the colours etc, but change out core system components within the OS, probably not. tygertung - 2021-07-07 14:37:00 |
| 32 | king1 wrote:
Is the average machine 10 years old? Maybe. Maybe it is a little newer. It certainly isn't going to be 1 year old on average, probably at least 5 years old, maybe older. The updates used to be a major problem at my old work, even on the new machines. Sometimes people would have to wait hours for it to complete the update while booting up. On a home machine it isn't so bad, but it can on occasion take 30 minutes or more. It seems to be quicker to install windows than to do the updates. Bizarre. I'm not going to bother installing 10 on a 10 year old machine. I would (and do) run 7 on my 7 year old machines. To install 10 on an old machine and expect it to run fast would be naive. tygertung - 2021-07-07 14:41:00 |
| 33 | tygertung wrote: like I said, you can have that 'win', I don't feel like the ability to change core system components can be a good thing... and as for being able to choose a different desktop environment, while interesting, i'm not sure that the average user wants/needs that. king1 - 2021-07-07 15:03:00 |
| 34 | tygertung wrote: It's quite clear you know nothing about windows nowadays - all your rhetoric is based on old hardware and unsupported versions of windows. king1 - 2021-07-07 15:23:00 |
| 35 | tygertung wrote: My old HP8570p windows 10 machine which came out on May 9 2012 with 16gb ram and an ssd was only slightly slower than the new laptop I have now. Edited by muppet_slayer at 5:14 pm, Wed 7 Jul muppet_slayer - 2021-07-07 17:14:00 |
| 36 | king1 wrote:
Not so, my wife's laptop is three years old and runs W10, and all the work computers were brand new and run W10. tygertung - 2021-07-07 18:32:00 |
| 37 | tygertung wrote:
Good story , (however i drove my mates car , don't mean i know anything about it) .Having and using Windows yourself constantly is not what your doing , so your clutching at straws trying to find fault with Windows 10 is kinda a flawed perspective on your part i feel ...... docpc - 2021-07-07 19:23:00 |
| 38 | I use both, so can compare them. Do YOU use both? tygertung - 2021-07-07 19:45:00 |
| 39 | tygertung wrote: yeah right, that's meaningless when you buy bottom of the barrell, which you clearly do... king1 - 2021-07-07 19:53:00 |
| 40 | tygertung wrote: kind of a moot point - you're the one making claims about windows that is just not the case nowadays. Whether anyone else uses ubuntu or puppy or whatever is irrelevant... Of course you can keep using your old/crappy hardware to prove a point to yourself. Anyone with half an ounce of greymatter sees it for what it is... Edited by king1 at 8:06 pm, Wed 7 Jul king1 - 2021-07-07 19:58:00 |
| 41 | tygertung wrote:
Used linux and Mac and found both to be as much a pain in the backside as your constant dismissal at admitting you have no clue docpc - 2021-07-07 20:09:00 |
| 42 | I am comparing the update process between the two, so if you have not used both, you would not be able to compare. Now maybe I am not as rich as you, who seemingly can afford to buy the latest greatest computer every year. I am poor so have to get by with what I can afford. tygertung - 2021-07-07 20:29:00 |
| 43 | tygertung wrote: Don't give me that poor me rubbish - you are stating as fact that windows updates take a loooong time, using that as evidence why windows is crap, linux is fab, everyone should use linux yada yada yada - without disclosing that its tested and running on old crappy hardware - rather a key piece of information for informed decision making... You're like the infomercial for weight loss with the teeny tiny writing at the bottom stating results are not typical - without the teeny tiny writing at the bottom... Edited by king1 at 8:44 pm, Wed 7 Jul king1 - 2021-07-07 20:43:00 |
| 44 | No, on brand new hardware at work, that was taking the longest. Once I had one going for over 6 hours, on startup, I rang up the helpdesk and they said to crash it. It hasn't been as bad on home hardware, but using the same hardware with both systems, the windows updates are the worst. tygertung - 2021-07-07 20:50:00 |
| 45 | tygertung wrote: I give up, you're preaching stuff that hasn't been true for many years - everyone else can see that... but try upgrading your 10 year old hardware and you might not have these bad experiences, a five year old machine with an SSD will be fine and is cheap as chips king1 - 2021-07-07 21:25:00 |
| 46 | seems ok i just wonder why the antivirus is off again and again. i sure as hell wont put no creditcard or other stuff on this winblows 11 Edited by intrade at 3:48 pm, Sat 17 Jul intrade - 2021-07-17 15:43:00 |
| 47 | intrade wrote:
It's a bug. cube_guy - 2021-07-17 17:38:00 |
| 48 | cube_guy wrote: intrade - 2021-07-17 18:32:00 |
| 49 | intrade wrote: lythande1 - 2021-07-18 09:19:00 |
| 50 | lythande1 wrote: intrade - 2021-07-22 14:32:00 |
