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https://www.barfoot.co.nz/property/residential/north-shore-c
ity/murrays-bay/townhouse/800101s

I have just seen this listing for sale. It is ridiculous that these plans were approved. 4 bedroom house will definitely have more than one person with a car. They will then be parking permanently on the street, and then having visitors, which will make it impossible for others to find a park. Someone capitalised on the section by building this and now the whole street will suffer, as it's not the only build like this and more are sure to come. How is this going to solve the housing shortage problem?

evoalg - 2021-02-08 22:28:00
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Link no longer works.

kitty179 - 2021-02-08 23:26:00
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It is a major issue here and has been forever. ????
QLDC always let Hotels build without any thought to where the staff park, let alone the guests yet Motels have strict requirements including staff...Crazy.

lovelurking - 2021-02-09 07:33:00
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Is the way we want New Zealand to become?.
We need more control over building here .
I was in a street in glen eden a while a go this street was mostly
Up to 100 year old houses nice ones well looked after
And there’s a lot with terrace houses.

rodeorunch - 2021-02-09 08:14:00
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There are many new housing areas and single section developments similar. One single garage is not adequate for families today. The reasoning is they are built with the thought that people will use public transport. Maybe in the future but this will not be viable now as the infrastructure for this is not yet in place. The section size also means the second car parks in the drive sometimes hindering the footpath and any other car parks on the street. Have seen some streets where the cars are parked on the road with the inside wheels on the footpath as that is the only way to let traffic then use the road. This is the councils planning stupidity and the developers greed for more units on site. They are still trying to please the people by having their own seperate unit. Only a few upmarket developments have several stories of decent size units with basement garaging. You have to go to Uni and get degrees so you can then plan with no common sense .

pisces47 - 2021-02-09 08:15:00
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evoalg wrote:

https://www.barfoot.co.nz/property/residential
/north-shore-city/murrays-bay/townhouse/800101s

I have just seen this listing for sale. It is ridiculous that these plans were approved. 4 bedroom house will definitely have more than one person with a car. They will then be parking permanently on the street, and then having visitors, which will make it impossible for others to find a park. Someone yecapitalised on the section by building this and now the whole street will suffer, as it's not the only build like this and more are sure to come. How is this going to solve the housing shortage problem?yes no watt u saying its so sad to see this it not watt kiwi are shameful
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hock1962 - 2021-02-09 08:52:00
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Large parts of Wellington and Auckland have older housing with no garages at all, and most with garages aware designed when the Austin A40 was fashionable....how do they manage?

sparkychap - 2021-02-09 08:55:00
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Take a bus?

lilyfield - 2021-02-09 09:17:00
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New house builds should have UNDERGROUND Garaging, sized to be the whole footprint of the house. How awesome would that be! Many countries do it. The state of Iowa in the US allows basements the size of the house and don't count them in the square footage. They are just normal cavernous useful spaces.

Edited by hazelnut2 at 9:22 am, Tue 9 Feb

hazelnut2 - 2021-02-09 09:20:00
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sparkychap wrote:

Large parts of Wellington and Auckland have older housing with no garages at all, and most with garages aware designed when the Austin A40 was fashionable....how do they manage?

Well for what it's worth, the parking here causes me a lot of stress most days frequently due to the behaviour of my neighbours (like the guy who lives down the road who parked one of his cars outside my house for 5 weeks - he had builders in - and refused to move it to any one of a number of spaces closer to his house because his wife would 'need it when she got back'. This despite the fact I very obviously had a new baby & toddler to heard across the road together with the assorted hundreds of things they inevitably need simply to leave the house.

Thanks neighbour you're a great guy

Or they manage like my other neighbour who runs an air bnb, has 6 off street parking places/garages and has on his instructions that you can't park on the property you. must park on the street.

Another fabulous neighbour

Or they manage like some people do and when the council proposes to put electric car chargers on the street they apply for one outside their house & go and buy a shiny new electric car and get an effectively privatised car parking space (or two)!

Edited by magicroundbout at 9:35 am, Tue 9 Feb

magicroundbout - 2021-02-09 09:35:00
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Many properties have insufficient grazing and stabling for a coach and 4. What is to be done?

tony9 - 2021-02-09 09:55:00
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tony9 wrote:

Many properties have insufficient grazing and stabling for a coach and 4. What is to be done?

bicycle bicycle I want to ride my bicycle i want to ride a bike.

jethrocat - 2021-02-09 10:56:00
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This is why I look at my house and other houses around when purchasing. Parking is always an issue if people don't have adequate off street parking

familiadude1 - 2021-02-09 14:18:00
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Yes houses should have more carparks but the planning requirements for driveways are so restrictive and wasteful of space. The minimum turning radius (wide enough to turn a bus in one movement) often means only one park can be built where two are possible. And the requirements for shared driveways, which can save heaps of space, are worse.

masturbidder - 2021-02-09 14:41:00
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Apparently cars are evil.

pheonix4 - 2021-02-09 17:45:00
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pheonix4 wrote:

Apparently cars are evil.

Christine was.

sparkychap - 2021-02-09 17:55:00
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sparkychap wrote:

Christine was.


Christine was just misunderstood.

apollo11 - 2021-02-09 18:03:00
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Oppressed by the Patriarchy.

apollo11 - 2021-02-09 18:06:00
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lilyfield wrote:

Take a bus?


What bus? Finding one (or a train) that takes you to where you want to go and arrive there on time, plus the return journey is a mission. OK if you have a gold card and no timetable. Parking in new builds shouldn't be abolished until the public transport system is running efficiently.

pauline999 - 2021-02-09 18:35:00
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Reminds me of the issue we had for 3 years. New tenants moved in over the road and on the first night they had parked 2 car transporters with stock cars on them, one each side of the road. They had 3 isuzu bighorns along with a ford falcon, another run down piece of crap and 1 work van. There were only 3 of them at this stage. A couple of months passed and then another daughter of there's with a teenage son who had 2 cars along with the mothers 1 car decided they wanted to live there also. What we ended up with was all there crap parked on the street with no room outside our own properties. They also used the road as a mechanics workshop and would leave friends cars on jacks for a couple of days while they stole parts from somewhere.
Thank God the ferals got evicted as hadn't paid rent for a while and we still get repossession agents knocking at our door for info on there whereabouts. They owe thousands and thousands of $ for credit cards apparently.

gazvic - 2021-02-09 19:18:00
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sparkychap wrote:

Large parts of Wellington and Auckland have older housing with no garages at all, and most with garages aware designed when the Austin A40 was fashionable....how do they manage?

my first car was a 1953 A30. I loved that car. It had push up/down windows. If the windscreen wipers stopped working, you yanked the cable in the glove box

princess52 - 2021-02-09 19:19:00
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princess52 wrote:

my first car was a 1953 A30. I loved that car. It had push up/down windows. If the windscreen wipers stopped working, you yanked the cable in the glove box

Brilliant! Cars with quirks rock.

sparkychap - 2021-02-09 19:33:00
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https://www.barfoot.co.nz/property/residential/north-shore-c
ity/murrays-bay/townhouse/800101

Edited by evoalg at 9:17 pm, Tue 9 Feb

evoalg - 2021-02-09 21:16:00
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Another build across the rd-5 double ensuites and no carparks at all. Luckily, standing empty for now. They built 5 of those standalone houses, no garden space at all-coming from the mentality of the country that maximises the house space and doesn't value outdoors...

evoalg - 2021-02-09 21:22:00
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familiadude1 wrote:

This is why I look at my house and other houses around when purchasing. Parking is always an issue if people don't have adequate off street parking

A lot of new houses around our way.
Most have a double garage but very few have cars in them as there is no room for sheds on the property so mowers, tools toys bikes are all in the garage.
Luckily they have room between the garage and the gate to park on the property still.

bernie184 - 2021-02-09 21:30:00
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magicroundbout wrote:

Well for what it's worth, the parking here causes me a lot of stress most days frequently due to the behaviour of my neighbours (like the guy who lives down the road who parked one of his cars outside my house for 5 weeks - he had builders in - and refused to move it to any one of a number of spaces closer to his house because his wife would 'need it when she got back'. This despite the fact I very obviously had a new baby & toddler to heard across the road together with the assorted hundreds of things they inevitably need simply to leave the house.

Thanks neighbour you're a great guy

Or they manage like my other neighbour who runs an air bnb, has 6 off street parking places/garages and has on his instructions that you can't park on the property you. must park on the street.

Another fabulous neighbour

Or they manage like some people do and when the council proposes to put electric car chargers on the street they apply for one outside their house & go and buy a shiny new electric car and get an effectively privatised car parking space (or two)!

As far as the air BNB is concerned, I would be getting in touch with the Council - most likely he is breaching bylaws or resource consent somewhere and needs 'reminding'.

brouser3 - 2021-02-10 16:33:00
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bernie184 wrote:

A lot of new houses around our way.
Most have a double garage but very few have cars in them as there is no room for sheds on the property so mowers, tools toys bikes are all in the garage.
Luckily they have room between the garage and the gate to park on the property still.

You are so right there about storage. Traditionally the garage has been the area to store all that 'other ' stuff that is needed on a regular basis, eg kids (and adults) bikes. lawnmower, ladder, mens misscellanous bits and pieces and 'toys' etc. But unfortunately the powers that be are trying to change the way we live from being a dyi /fix it culture to a call the 'professional??' culture so no need for lawn mowers, ladders, fix it tools etc.And as far as fitness and recreation - well get a club and gym membership, hire your bike, kayak when you need them and use a guide or tour company to organise outings and activities. ie adventure tourisim

Edited by brouser3 at 4:41 pm, Wed 10 Feb

brouser3 - 2021-02-10 16:38:00
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lovelurking wrote:

It is a major issue here and has been forever. ????
QLDC always let Hotels build without any thought to where the staff park, let alone the guests yet Motels have strict requirements including staff...Crazy.


Housing is under the control of councils who just want more chickens in the pen regardless of the comfort or safety
Staff are under a different agreement

calostemma - 2021-02-10 16:41:00
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I dislike new subdivisions. Too large houses on too small sections. Your neighbours would hear it if you farted loudly.

Nah, I'll live a bit further from town thanks, and have some space.

phoenix22 - 2021-02-11 08:09:00
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sparkychap wrote:

Large parts of Wellington and Auckland have older housing with no garages at all, and most with garages aware designed when the Austin A40 was fashionable....how do they manage?

Hardly the same thing. The 100-yr old house next to us was replaced last year by 5 apartments, each with one garage. Just the existing driveway. Now the road outside our house is lined with cars, presumably the '2nd household car' plus visitors.Our house has just the one garage and we were accustomed to parking one car on the street.(4 laned.) Now we sometimes have to park in a street some distance away, as do any visitors as the available street space is lined with cars from the apartments.

schnauzer11 - 2021-02-12 23:38:00
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Interesting thread of entitlement.

In essence, people don't want cars parked on their street, so the spaces are free for them to park on the street?

Or they think new builds should be forced to include more parking, making them cost more, simply so there are fewer cars to look at / drive past on their street.

Bigger picture, this kind of build increases density making public transport more viable, makes driving private vehicles less attractive, and brings housing to market cheaper than it otherwise might have been. All good results.

The outcomes of this are great for society, and inconvenient for individuals.

citydude - 2021-02-13 06:25:00
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citydude wrote:

Interesting thread of entitlement.

In essence, people don't want cars parked on their street, so the spaces are free for them to park on the street?

Or they think new builds should be forced to include more parking, making them cost more, simply so there are fewer cars to look at / drive past on their street.

Bigger picture, this kind of build increases density making public transport more viable, makes driving private vehicles less attractive, and brings housing to market cheaper than it otherwise might have been. All good results.

The outcomes of this are great for society, and inconvenient for individuals.

Thread of entitlement?
I don’t see it as that. Where I live, the streets are narrow enough already without having cars parked on both sides and over footpaths.

One house advertised for private sale boasted of parking space for 5 cars. I couldn’t figure out where the parks were and the sellers representative pointed across to the other side of the road ????
That’s what I call entitlement...

lovelurking - 2021-02-13 07:03:00
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evoalg wrote:

https://www.barfoot.co.nz/property/residential
/north-shore-city/murrays-bay/townhouse/800101

Based on the photographs, they have a garage and parking space on the drive in front of the garage. How much more parking do you want?

sparkychap - 2021-02-13 08:54:00
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There's an apartment block going up near me where there'll be less parks than apartments. The parking consultant they brought in from Nelson to make their case took photos of our and other streets nearby with few cars on them - and lied about when they were taken (easy to tell because the shadows were in the wrong place for the supposed time of day, and the road was dry when it would have been wet on that day (or vice versa, I forget which now)). We already have parking wars between hospital workers and residents, and it will only get worse.
But according to the new NPS-UD people close to transit won't have cars.
I'll believe it when I see it (that's not to say I don't think it will ever happen; I just don't think it will happen any time soon).

luteba - 2021-02-13 14:04:00
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where are all the electric cars going to get plugged in over night if there is no off street parking ??..

pettal - 2021-02-13 14:49:00
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pettal wrote:

where are all the electric cars going to get plugged in over night if there is no off street parking ??..


Extension cords.

apollo11 - 2021-02-13 17:42:00
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We have lots of off-street parking and I wouldn't buy a house that didn't. But maybe for others it's not such a priority

annie17111 - 2021-02-13 18:09:00
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apollo11 wrote:


Extension cords.

Imagine the trip hazards ..

pettal - 2021-02-13 20:30:00
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pettal wrote:

Imagine the trip hazards ..


No worse than small dogs.

apollo11 - 2021-02-13 20:45:00
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apollo11 wrote:


No worse than small dogs.

what every 10m or so

pettal - 2021-02-13 22:45:00
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pettal wrote:

what every 10m or so


No, that's the doodoo from the bigger dogs!

supernova2 - 2021-02-14 00:02:00
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evoalg wrote:

https://www.barfoot.co.nz/property/residential
/north-shore-city/murrays-bay/townhouse/800101

Sunrise Ave?

bagal - 2021-02-25 20:51:00
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The member deleted this message.

kittycatkin - 2021-02-27 18:57:00
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kittycatkin wrote:

I want to ride my bicycle, I want to ride it where I like !
You say black, I say white,
You say bark, I say bite...

....????
https://youtu.be/GugsCdLHm-Q

theguyz1 - 2021-02-27 19:21:00
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